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Ringer delay causing lots of missed calls.

My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.

Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.

diar said:
My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.
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I have the same problem (htc org. rom)

Maybe this will work
I noticed that when someone calls my phone, they get two rings before my ringtone turns on.
After a second, my Fuze's LED starts flashing, then my ringtone starts playing after another second.
I have an idea:
1. Go into "Start > Settings > Phone"
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Highlight "Call forwarding" and then click the "Get Settings..." button.
4. Change the "Forward after:" dropdown box to something higher (e.g. "30 seconds")
It won't help the ring delay, but I think this will give you a little more time before the call is sent to your voicemail. I haven't tried it, but let me know if that helps

NuShrike said:
Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.
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I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.

adamantypants said:
I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.
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I agree with you, this lag is very big problem, I missed a lot of calls, most of people must call me again because they are forwarding to voicemail at first time before I find TP (I cannot change in forwarding to 30 sec.
I'm wondering how it is in Diamond.

This is very frustrating. Nothing seems to fix this problem. I've reduced the call ID match to five digits instead of eight. I've made sure that Ring Time is set to "without delay" in DiamondTweak. I'll try the idea to change the call forwarding time but this seems to be a major problem in the OS itself. With this issue, Voice Command problems, the GPS lag and other issues I might have to jump to another phone.
Do cooked ROMS have these same issues?

I've got the same issue.. using T.I.R. V8R ROM, so yes, this delay is present also on custom ROMS. It has to do with the dialer skin?

This was discussed in a thread on an app that causes the vibrate pattern to match the ring pattern in hacks & discussions (I think called VAlert). The vibrate pattern starts immediately and the ring is delayed so the app isn't perfect (unless you build a delay into the vibrate but that's separate). The solution seems to be an app from tweaks2k2.net that I hear removes the delay. This is an issue with all WM phones. I haven't tried tweaks2k2 but I hear it works.

the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.

diar said:
the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.
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it don't work sorry

Doing some debugging, on the Fuze at least the ringer delay seems to be tied to the bloatedness of the dialer.. it has a whole bunch of imports so its loading alot of stuff up every time you get an incoming call.. I'm afraid the only solution for this will be a dialer that does not bring in those kind of dependancies (PTT, Video Share, G-Sensor, etc)
The fastest way to go would be using the default windows dialer, but you'd lose all that functionality.. but hey. It would ring instantly!
I'll look into stripping the dialer from my clean ROM and providing a cab..

Confirmed. Removed the AT&T dialer skin from my rom and called my phone, rang as fast as any other phone would.. So the dialer skin is indeed the culprit.

Dang AT&T. Dang them and all their bloatware.
I'm going to corporate store to complaint. To all of them within a 10 mile radios.

I've posted my Beta 1.5 with the dialer removed. It's not an official fix by AT&T, but it is a fix..
I'll see if I can whip up a .cab to stop the dialer from loading in the stock AT&T ROM, that should help there too.

i like this dialer...but not that much. how do i disable it? in advanced config, i saw an option to enable the phone dialer skin or the default windows mobile dialer. would switching to the default fix it without causing any other problems?
EDIT: switched to default dialer and that fixed it. it also seems to have fixed the problem of having to re-enter the data connection password after a soft reset.

This set of cab's should do the job for anyone who doesn't want to install Advanced Config (it's a single registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin - Enabled=0/1)

Wow it really is about two seconds before the phone rings. Hm I never missed a call yet on this phone. where do you keep your phone that it takes so long to answer it?

AT&T's network lets you set the number of seconds before the call rolls over to voicemail, as do others, I believe the default on AT&T is 20 seconds, with a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 30, so if someone has it set to 5, that leaves only 3 seconds..
Of course they could just set it higher, but that's a different issue

So then a simple fix would be to go into your voicemail and set it to 22 seconds and then you still have the same time to pick up that phone. But still how does the 2 second dely really make you miss all them calls?

Xperia X10 Ringer Stops

This is my problem
say A calls me and I couldn't pick up so the phone rings then directs A to my voice mail
so then A calls me again
this time the led would flash, the screen would show that A is calling, but the ringer would not ring.
The ringer on my phone is always on the highest ringer and I tested it out and I am still getting the same results.
Does anyone else has the same issue??

That is what exactly happen to me, i don't have a voice box (since roger is expensive)
But i notice if i do miss the first call (being forward or not) the second call will never rings.
As long the second call is the same person as first call.
I think it is a call blocking system so you don't get rings everytime the same person multi-call you within a time frame

ii thanks I thought that I was the only one or something
yeh rogers is bloody expensive, also you any suggestions to fix this
and thanks

I suggest you make a super ringtone with max sound. So you don't miss the first call. Or
simply write a android program that calls you back on missing calls.

wrongfeifong said:
I suggest you make a super ringtone with max sound. So you don't miss the first call. Or
simply write a android program that calls you back on missing calls.
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I got a loud ringtone
how do you do the android program

Vibrating while on a call?

"You know what really grinds my gears..."
Why does the phone vibrate when on a call? Seriously - this should be built into the operating system. A notification sound will suffice. It's so annoying to have a vibrations all on your earlobes. Is there a way (app) to configure this? Anyone else feel me or am I making a big deal about this?

Never noticed mine vibrate,
what is the notification for?
I turn off all in-call notifications though.
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In-call notifications? Where is that? The vibrations come from sms messages.

Never noticed that.. but I have had the 'smart alarm' go off while I was talking on the phone. Was quite convenient.

And apparently it is audible enough to hear on the other end as several people have inquired as to what the noise was.
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Mine doesn't vibrate when on call. Just gives a beep, maybe because I turn off vibrating notification in the sound and display setting

Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?

apollokid said:
Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?
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No, this happened to me several times. I eventually just turned off the vibrations all together. I agree, it would be nice to get a notification tone in the ear if you have the vibrate function on.
Have you tried Handcent SMS? It has great customizations for the vibration feature, among other things. Even different vibration patterns for distinct individuals. Give it a shot - might be what you're looking for.

PersonOfKnownOrigin said:
No, this happened to me several times. I eventually just turned off the vibrations all together. I agree, it would be nice to get a notification tone in the ear if you have the vibrate function on.
Have you tried Handcent SMS? It has great customizations for the vibration feature, among other things. Even different vibration patterns for distinct individuals. Give it a shot - might be what you're looking for.
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I need the vibrate alert far too much to disable it all together. I rarely hear my phone, but almost always feel it.
apollokid said:
Wow. So I'm the only one that uses vibration for text messages? Also noticed it vibrates while charging - this also mystifies me because I don't see why anyone would need it to vibrate while being charged. Is this not common sense? I wonder if this happens with other android devices?
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Why would you not want it to vibrate while charging? During calls I could see (I have the same complaint actually), but why during charging?

+1 for a solution to this. Way too annoying when your on a call and you get a txt message but turning off vibrate is not an option.
BigJayDogg3 said:
Why would you not want it to vibrate while charging? During calls I could see (I have the same complaint actually), but why during charging?
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Well, if the phone is charging its obviously plugged in. If its plugged in, its not in my pocket...its probably on a table or desk. Why do I want it to vibrate on the desk? If I'm not touching it, I can't feel it so an audible alert is good enough...

Its annoying sure, but I don't make enough phone calls for it to be really a bother. Oh well.

TheSopranos16 said:
+1 for a solution to this. Way too annoying when your on a call and you get a txt message but turning off vibrate is not an option.
Well, if the phone is charging its obviously plugged in. If its plugged in, its not in my pocket...its probably on a table or desk. Why do I want it to vibrate on the desk? If I'm not touching it, I can't feel it so an audible alert is good enough...
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Is there a phone in the market that upon sensing external power it automatically switches notification type? Pike
I've had a quite a few smart phones (or so I thought) and don't recall any if them doing that.
Then again, if it's charging, it's not in your pocket. Switch notification to audible and problem solved. Takes all of one second.

a_fuegon said:
Is there a phone in the market that upon sensing external power it automatically switches notification type? Pike
I've had a quite a few smart phones (or so I thought) and don't recall any if them doing that.
Then again, if it's charging, it's not in your pocket. Switch notification to audible and problem solved. Takes all of one second.
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All of my previous phones were running Symbian - none of them vibrated while on the phone or charging (moot point really).
Who wants to remember to switch their notifications to anything after a phone event happens? While you're at it, why not tell people to make sure they turn off their ringtones when they place or receive a call. Same logic. Doesn't make much sense to me...

I agree. Other phones I've had don't turn vibrate off when plugged in. I think they should, but they don't. So you can't really call this a "defect" with the Captivate.
However, I don't recall any of the other phones I've had vibrating in your ear when you are on a call. To me, that is a oversite with the dialer app and should be fixed.

I agree with you. I have had the think vibrate my ear off a few times.
One thing that really pisses me off is the dialer with an incomming call. ITs a pain in the ass to actually answer the call. Intead of it answering when you swipe, you have to go through 3 steps:
-Swipe
-pick end call or hold call
-swipe again to answer.
Im going to start a new thread to see if anyone knows how to answer call waiting instantly without these steps.

Here's an app I quickly made that disables the notificiation vibrator when in a call. It is a very simple/minimal app with no icons to run, or settings to change. Just don't uninstall while in a call or the vibrate setting will remain off. I only tried it with Call + Gmail vibrate.
hth

Got ya.
Its just a matter of how i use my phone. When my phone is charging, most of the time its on vibrate and i feel the vibration in the table/desk or hear it on my night stand.
I just didn't make the jump in logic.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

apollokid said:
"You know what really grinds my gears..."
Why does the phone vibrate when on a call? Seriously - this should be built into the operating system. A notification sound will suffice. It's so annoying to have a vibrations all on your earlobes. Is there a way (app) to configure this? Anyone else feel me or am I making a big deal about this?
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have you tried going to
settings
call settings
all calls
alerts on call
change to sound? i have my sms set to both sound and vibrate and when i am on a call i just hear a tone

apollokid said:
All of my previous phones were running Symbian - none of them vibrated while on the phone or charging (moot point really).
Who wants to remember to switch their notifications to anything after a phone event happens? While you're at it, why not tell people to make sure they turn off their ringtones when they place or receive a call. Same logic. Doesn't make much sense to me...
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First off, my apologies for not proof reading my poor swyping abilities.
What I was trying to state is that if it bothers you so much that the phone should ring as opposed to vibrate when plugged in , it just takes a second to change the notification type. Not sure what is there that doesn't make sense?
The vibrating in your ear, is totally understandable, hence why i didn't comment on that. IF my phone vibrated while it's on my ear, i'd be upset too.

hondaguy said:
have you tried going to
settings
call settings
all calls
alerts on call
change to sound? i have my sms set to both sound and vibrate and when i am on a call i just hear a tone
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I don't think you have sms vibrations set or maybe you're using non-stock rom - it's under the messages application. You had me for a minute cause I never checked call settings\all calls. Nonetheless - no that doesn't work. It still vibrates on a call.
aloant said:
Here's an app I quickly made that disables the notificiation vibrator when in a call. It is a very simple/minimal app with no icons to run, or settings to change. Just don't uninstall while in a call or the vibrate setting will remain off. I only tried it with Call + Gmail vibrate.
hth
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Thanks I appreciate the effort. Unfortunately it seemed to turn off the vibrations all together. Lol. Even when I'm not on a call it doesn't vibrate. Can we get a second iteration? Please?
Thank you guys for the Handcent and ChompSMS suggestions. These seem to handle the message events the way I expect as they allow for in-call vibration alert customizations. Unfortunately they take over and get rid of my message puzzle pieces (cheezy I know, but I've grown to like those little things). I'm so picky - but that's what great about android right? Endless customizations!
I defintely would be interested in a less intrusive way to deal with the issue (i.e NoInCallVibrate)

Incoming calls in background

So I was typing a message this morning when a call came in. Before I even realized it, the incoming call screen popped up and I hit the Decline button. Is there an app or mod or setting I'm not aware of that will keep the incoming call screen from coming up when another app is in use? I read that CyanogenMod has a setting like that. The phone rings and a notification appears but the Accept/Decline buttons don't pop up immediately. Is there a way to get that functionality on a Sense ROM?

Samsung megs won't ring

My samsung mega doesn't ring only some time. If it doesn't ring the call will go to voice mail. If the caller hangs up before it goes to voice mail I never know I was called because it doesn't show a missed call or is it in call log. I have read all I can find here and other places and my problem isn't exactly same as mine.. All sound is on and volume is up. I also know this since it does ring some time...Now on the dialer pad on the # key there is a icon looks kinda like a speaker with a line through it. I can't remove it, what is it. Even though it is there the phone will still ring sometime
Any help appreciated