Ringer delay causing lots of missed calls. - Touch Pro, Fuze General

My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.

Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.

diar said:
My phone has a very noticeable delay on incoming calls. I'll see it light up and flash for a bit, take a few seconds to get caller ID, then it will finally ring once before going to voicemail. All the while the caller is hearing the phone ring but I'm not...I tested it. Since I don't stare at my phone all day I have a high volume of missed calls because many times I only get the last ring. Any ideas what's going on? I tinkered with settings in Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. No dice. I'm using the stock Fuze Rom.
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I have the same problem (htc org. rom)

Maybe this will work
I noticed that when someone calls my phone, they get two rings before my ringtone turns on.
After a second, my Fuze's LED starts flashing, then my ringtone starts playing after another second.
I have an idea:
1. Go into "Start > Settings > Phone"
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Highlight "Call forwarding" and then click the "Get Settings..." button.
4. Change the "Forward after:" dropdown box to something higher (e.g. "30 seconds")
It won't help the ring delay, but I think this will give you a little more time before the call is sent to your voicemail. I haven't tried it, but let me know if that helps

NuShrike said:
Isn't this normal behavior?
I've set my Kaiser on GSM mode and I can hear calls coming in on my computer's speakers a full 2-3 seconds before the phone actually rings.
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I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.

adamantypants said:
I wouldn't call this normal. This is the first mobile phone that I've had that has had delays that long. If I didn't keep my phone next to me for most of the day, I'd probably miss more of my calls as well.
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I agree with you, this lag is very big problem, I missed a lot of calls, most of people must call me again because they are forwarding to voicemail at first time before I find TP (I cannot change in forwarding to 30 sec.
I'm wondering how it is in Diamond.

This is very frustrating. Nothing seems to fix this problem. I've reduced the call ID match to five digits instead of eight. I've made sure that Ring Time is set to "without delay" in DiamondTweak. I'll try the idea to change the call forwarding time but this seems to be a major problem in the OS itself. With this issue, Voice Command problems, the GPS lag and other issues I might have to jump to another phone.
Do cooked ROMS have these same issues?

I've got the same issue.. using T.I.R. V8R ROM, so yes, this delay is present also on custom ROMS. It has to do with the dialer skin?

This was discussed in a thread on an app that causes the vibrate pattern to match the ring pattern in hacks & discussions (I think called VAlert). The vibrate pattern starts immediately and the ring is delayed so the app isn't perfect (unless you build a delay into the vibrate but that's separate). The solution seems to be an app from tweaks2k2.net that I hear removes the delay. This is an issue with all WM phones. I haven't tried tweaks2k2 but I hear it works.

the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.

diar said:
the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.
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it don't work sorry

Doing some debugging, on the Fuze at least the ringer delay seems to be tied to the bloatedness of the dialer.. it has a whole bunch of imports so its loading alot of stuff up every time you get an incoming call.. I'm afraid the only solution for this will be a dialer that does not bring in those kind of dependancies (PTT, Video Share, G-Sensor, etc)
The fastest way to go would be using the default windows dialer, but you'd lose all that functionality.. but hey. It would ring instantly!
I'll look into stripping the dialer from my clean ROM and providing a cab..

Confirmed. Removed the AT&T dialer skin from my rom and called my phone, rang as fast as any other phone would.. So the dialer skin is indeed the culprit.

Dang AT&T. Dang them and all their bloatware.
I'm going to corporate store to complaint. To all of them within a 10 mile radios.

I've posted my Beta 1.5 with the dialer removed. It's not an official fix by AT&T, but it is a fix..
I'll see if I can whip up a .cab to stop the dialer from loading in the stock AT&T ROM, that should help there too.

i like this dialer...but not that much. how do i disable it? in advanced config, i saw an option to enable the phone dialer skin or the default windows mobile dialer. would switching to the default fix it without causing any other problems?
EDIT: switched to default dialer and that fixed it. it also seems to have fixed the problem of having to re-enter the data connection password after a soft reset.

This set of cab's should do the job for anyone who doesn't want to install Advanced Config (it's a single registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin - Enabled=0/1)

Wow it really is about two seconds before the phone rings. Hm I never missed a call yet on this phone. where do you keep your phone that it takes so long to answer it?

AT&T's network lets you set the number of seconds before the call rolls over to voicemail, as do others, I believe the default on AT&T is 20 seconds, with a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 30, so if someone has it set to 5, that leaves only 3 seconds..
Of course they could just set it higher, but that's a different issue

So then a simple fix would be to go into your voicemail and set it to 22 seconds and then you still have the same time to pick up that phone. But still how does the 2 second dely really make you miss all them calls?

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Takes 4 Seconds for my phone to start ringing

I ran a test to see how long it takes for my phone to actually start ringing.
And it took at the least 4 seconds to start ringing, by this time the caller has heard the ring in his ear for about 5 rings.
Does anybody know how this can be fixed or to be made faster?
What ring setting have you got ? Vibrate and then ring ?
canthonyza said:
I ran a test to see how long it takes for my phone to actually start ringing.
And it took at the least 4 seconds to start ringing, by this time the caller has heard the ring in his ear for about 5 rings.
Does anybody know how this can be fixed or to be made faster?
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If i remember right the easiest solution is to convert your MP3 ringtone to a .wav file.
Its set to Vibrate and Ring
johnk1973 said:
If i remember right the easiest solution is to convert your MP3 ringtone to a .wav file.
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But this is one of the stock ring tones that comes with HTC Pro
Using MP3 ring tone. and tesing with my daughter cell phone.
1st ring Phone lights up and starts to vibrate
2nd ring Ring tone kicks in and caller id picks up
aussieak said:
Using MP3 ring tone. and tesing with my daughter cell phone.
1st ring Phone lights up and starts to vibrate
2nd ring Ring tone kicks in and caller id picks up
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That is also in my case.
But... once I had a longer period. I checked the taskmanager and a lot of software was loaded. Maybe a program was too busy.
Then I tested again and loaded a bunch of programs and each time the phone was like above: 1e ring blinking and second ringing.
Of course it is possible that, while calling from the same number, the mp3/wav is already in memory, speeding up the process.
So, after a soft reset, it should take more time.
Did not have time to check that.
Huib
P.s.
My problem is: I keep loosing my ringtones now and then after synching with my PC's
herpi said:
That is also in my case.
But... once I had a longer period. I checked the taskmanager and a lot of software was loaded. Maybe a program was too busy.
Then I tested again and loaded a bunch of programs and each time the phone was like above: 1e ring blinking and second ringing.
Of course it is possible that, while calling from the same number, the mp3/wav is already in memory, speeding up the process.
So, after a soft reset, it should take more time.
Did not have time to check that.
Huib
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Thanks, I will take a look at running apps and try and see what factors would cause delays like this.
I disabled the touch pro themed dial keypad using advanced configuration tool. The phone rang a bit more quickly using windows mobile default keypad.
Ok so I uninstalled CommPro and it seemed to be much quicker now. It get the ringtone after the second ring.
Thanx

Call resopnse lag

Hey I have a small problem with my Fuze. Why is it that the phone will flash the light around the D-Pad before it starts to play my ringtone? Is anyone else having this problem? I want my phone to immediately start ringing when receiving a phone call instead of getting the flashes first. I miss many calls because by the time my phone actually plays my ringtone, it'll have gone by about 3 or 4 rings from the caller. Any help is appreciated.
change dialpad to win 6.1 default
change ringtone to a .wav file
That will speed it it up by 3-4 sec. You will never get rid of all the lag though. sorry
I think theres a setting without DiamondTweak that enables you to disable the delay between the call be recieved and the ring or vibrrate initiating. Check it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
djcaston said:
I think theres a setting without DiamondTweak that enables you to disable the delay between the call be recieved and the ring or vibrrate initiating. Check it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409540
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Unfortunately that only changes the delay between the first ring and consecutive rings, not the initial delay before the first ring.
Thanks, it made a enough of a difference that it is no longer a nuisance.

Get the phone out of the case + Answering a call = Impossible?

Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks
kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I have an ordinary case for my Touch Pro. Almost 10 out of 10 times when the phone rings and I reach out to my phone, try to take it out - boom - the call becomes a missed call. I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call. It is very annoying and how to avoid this????
Thanks
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there is a key disabler cab look for it
There are many options how to disable the touchscreen.
There was a topic not long ago about this.
Answerkey Disabler
PocketShield (I currently use this one)
TouchProLock
Sensorlock
Throttlelock
S2U2 (not recommended for TP, drains the battery for unknown reason)
All these deal with locking the TP.
Sorry for not posting links but I don't have much time. All of them are available on XDA though.
You do have the option of extending the time it takes for a call to go to voice mail, it can be extended up to 30 seconds. The option is under settings > phone > Services > Call Forwarding
There is also a lot of lag on between the time the caller's phone is ringing and you get a ring on the Fuze
I guess this is not because of the keys. Just keep the phone in front of you and try to call your phone and see your self, first you will see the incoming call indicator light, and after some time you will start hearing the ring tone. Now by the time you take the phone from the case - it's a miss call. I tried to search all over XDA but didn't find a way to start ringing immediately when call comes, I read some where that this is due to the dialer skin and by using default WM dialer this can be fixed. I didn't try this.
kmahesh said:
Does this happen to any one or is it just me?
I guess what is happening here is that once the phone rings, the screen is active and either your finger accidentally touches the volume key or any other key or even the screen, it makes it a missed call.
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I think he was talking about the touchscreen being active on incoming calls.
If however the problem is in the delay, then the dialer skin is the key.
You have to change it to the WM default (it does work, the lag is almost gone) and have the ringtone in WAV format (not tested, I didn't bother to put any wavs).
if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off
I downloaded and installed disableanswerkeys and it works fine. It took a while for me to understand the cryptic question it asks in the beginning - i get stumped if there are two negatives in a sentence So It is on and i tried and it works ok. I also downloaded sensorlock and throttlelock. Yet to try these ... will post my comments.
the lag in answering the call - i believe there is a separate thread about that, right?
Thanks for the help
lbhocky19 said:
if you get rid of the dialer and switch to WM
you will lose functionality including the symbol to show bluetooth being on or off
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LOL, that's what happened to my bluetooth......thanks

Fuze does not ring...

On incoming calls, my Fuze does not ring. I have it set to 'vibrate and ring' and it only vibrates. I have changed ringtones, ring settings, turned it off and back on, soft reset, pulled the battery out, etc and nothing will make my phone ring. All other notifications work (alarms, text messages, etc) and it will work on speaker phone once a call is connected. Is there any advice? I am trying to avoid a Hard-reset because I have the device set-up perfectly to my tastes...
jimmynotch said:
On incoming calls, my Fuze does not ring. I have it set to 'vibrate and ring' and it only vibrates. I have changed ringtones, ring settings, turned it off and back on, soft reset, pulled the battery out, etc and nothing will make my phone ring. All other notifications work (alarms, text messages, etc) and it will work on speaker phone once a call is connected. Is there any advice? I am trying to avoid a Hard-reset because I have the device set-up perfectly to my tastes...
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What format is the ring tone in?
My ringtone is the 'Oldphone2' and it is set at'vibrate and ring'. It just spontaneously started this non-ringing thing this morning prompted by no changing of settings. As I said, I tried messing around with the setting after it stopped ringing, but to no avail. And the frustrating thing is that everything else seems to work fine. Argh!
This may seem silly, but have you checked your ring volume? I've had a situation a few times, for no apparent reason after disconnecting from Activesync, where my ring volume was down to 0. Just a thought.
I HAVE SAME PROBLEM, when you turn all to vibrate only and turn it back up . the ring stop working
Yes. all volume settings are up. ringer volume, call volume, media player volume.... Any other suggestions?
i had the same problem just now.. but changing the ringtone back to the ATT default one fixed it. I also use S2U2 and changing the setting for "vibrate when answered" or something like that seems to have fixed it as well.
Hope that helps.
what is S2U2? I have tried changing the ringtone back to ATT default and fiddling with the settings... No help there. This is frustrating. I have to keepmy phone on my desk in front of me so I dont miss any calls. I miss them if the phone is in my pocket.
jimmynotch said:
what is S2U2? I have tried changing the ringtone back to ATT default and fiddling with the settings... No help there. This is frustrating. I have to keepmy phone on my desk in front of me so I dont miss any calls. I miss them if the phone is in my pocket.
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this happened to me too and i hard resetted. that fixed it , then it started again. come to find out th eproblem was when i hit the volume key on the side i turned system valume up and didnt click on ringer volume to turn it up . i had to smack myself
do texts ringer still work?? if so then im pretty sure you have the same problem i had, check it. good luck though
Do you have the unit face down? It has an auto mute when face down.
I also have an alarm problem, although lights go off, the alarm doesn't ring. I also have problems with ringing on incoming calls. The speaker otherwise works fine. Volumes are turned on appropriately. I have Natfv4.0 installed. Do any of the roms fix this problem?
So somehow the problem fixed itself. Dont know how as I didnt even touch my phone for two days. I just turned it on and -BOOM- it rang a few minutes later. Totally spontaneous issue. Really strange this phone is sometimes...
Boy, do I feel dumb.....Never even noted the un hi-lighted RING volume TAB...
I guess I can't use THAT excuse for not answering calls...
Thanks
Ron
I've been having the same problem. It's very baffling to say the least. I believe it was caused by the newer versions of S2U2. Don't know if it's been discussed in that thread or not. Both times this ringer 'glitch' has occurred, it's been when I've password protected S2U2 in settings. The issue was fixed by turning the password protection off, restarting S2U2, soft resetting my Fuze.
I am having the same problem with incoming calls not playing the ring tone and missing calls. I can guarantee you that the system/ring volume controls are at maximum. I have switched ring tones to no avail. It seems to have something to do with changing the ring type from ring to increasing ring and or visa versa. When I change ring type the problem exists. If I turn system/ring volume to silent and then back to maximum it plays the ring tone just fine. There is a bug in there somewhere! I also see a 'send text' lower left of screen and I hear a blurp sound or two in the background wihile the ringtone is playing when the phone is ringing. Anyone else have any issues like this? If so or you have a fix please send it to [email protected] I'm new to this forum stuff and don't really know how to use it. Hope I didn't break any rules.
Thank you,
Trent Alexander
I just have the callers complaining that I take too long to answer the phone. I called myself, and it took 3 1/2 rings for my Fuze to ring...anyone else?
Great PPC, Lousy Phone
Mine too. I just tried it and it does not ring until seven seconds after the light starts flashing. Not only that, it will not retain a custom ring tone. I try to use Old Phone 2 but it reverts to the default on its own.
My vario iv also suffers from the missing ring tone- reboots sometimes help but not always.
I too have had to learn not to rely on the alarm- goes off some days and then not on others.
Just now I thought that I would try to play an mp3 to see if that works- I pressed play and then waited for the track to start- no sound- seconds later the screen changed and touchflow launched itself (again) went back to the home tab and the sound is back?????
Same problem... it stopped ringing...
one thing I notice is that if the number calling is private or block it will only light up (no ring) but from a caller with Caller ID open the phone will ring...
strange...

[Q] Lost Incoming Call default settings - now Phone rings - but cant answer.

ok this is a weird problem
my own fault
phone is the OnePlus one obviously.
have been having ongoing small problem with the dialer, as i use DW dialer.
sometimes when i went to make an outgoing call the stock dialer would also load and i would have to push the call button twice.
small problem but annoying.
so i went into the settings>apps>phone
and cleared the phone setting >launch by default.
this has fixed the outgoing calls problem
however now when i have incoming calls it doesnt bring up the window to let me answer them. the phone kind of hangs while the incoming call is ringing.
i can get back to the home screen. but there is no way to answer the call.
so i need a way to reassign the incoming calls to the phone.
i dont get any notification on the phone itself. just the ringing phone.
there is no way at all to answer the call - cant swipe down.
the only thing i can do is wait for the call to end. then see who is in my missed calls and ring them back.
please help
cheers
suttosnax said:
ok this is a weird problem
my own fault
phone is the OnePlus one obviously.
have been having ongoing small problem with the dialer, as i use DW dialer.
sometimes when i went to make an outgoing call the stock dialer would also load and i would have to push the call button twice.
small problem but annoying.
so i went into the settings>apps>phone
and cleared the phone setting >launch by default.
this has fixed the outgoing calls problem
however now when i have incoming calls it doesnt bring up the window to let me answer them. the phone kind of hangs while the incoming call is ringing.
i can get back to the home screen. but there is no way to answer the call.
so i need a way to reassign the incoming calls to the phone.
i dont get any notification on the phone itself. just the ringing phone.
there is no way at all to answer the call - cant swipe down.
the only thing i can do is wait for the call to end. then see who is in my missed calls and ring them back.
please help
cheers
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I've been having this problem for a few days now. Phone rings but no UI for me to answer the phone call. Any solution to this yet? Thanks.
U have to tell which ROM u r using. There should be some option in settings for accidental phone wake up (Something like that), you have to disable that. Search in the settings.
I have updated to 5.1.1 but problem is its not showing the name when incoming call....only showing first letter of the name how can we find who is calling
I've just solved this problem on my phone - I'd blocked notifications from Dialler:
Settings --> App Notifications --> Dialler --> Deselect Block
Man!! This is a lifesaver. How come this solution is not available elsewhere. Thanks a lot!!!!

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