Please help. Just purchase my i9020 . I play game a lot. Which rom would be d best for gaming.
Any information will be appreciated. Thx meter +1
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i like using NScollab 1.0.xx it has the power of CM7 but toned down to look stock. usually updated every week or so. i have games and media mostly on my NS and it runs smooth even without over clock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
I would say stock coz it doesn't take up any memory like that of the custom roms. Just flash netarchy kernel to make it overclockable.
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THX all, thx meters given
im currently running MIUI 1.4.22 and have 150 MB USED and 156 MB FREE, Total 306 MB , where the hell 206 MB if it has 512 MB , it is understandable if its total 450 MB - 480 Mb due to system read differently, but its only 306MB.
is there something wrong with my Nexus S i9020 ??
nope. some of the memory is being used by the android system and the android system only. meaning that it is locked and cant be used by any other application thats why it only shows a total of 306
Yeah I think so. If open apps will use some of those missing RAM o think.
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stock and netarchy kernel for me as well works great for those 3d games. put the CPU to ondemand at 1.2ghz and it will run amazing (stock 1.0ghz alone was amazing)
**keep in mind that the most graphic intense game i play is need for speed shift
NEXUS S RAM only 384MB
I prefer saying that Nexus S only had 384MB of RAM.
i can see that on my mem info of CM7 ROM only 345MB.
384 MB real , 345MB system read.
I can feel in true HD games, i used to use DeLL streak and playing Eternal Legacy HD, it cannot run while background apps running untill i kill all task and give me free RAM around 312MB . THe the game start perfectly.
On my Nexus S the game cannot run, just kick back to home screen, its like insufficient RAM ( it was not force closing ).
So i assume nexus S only has totally 512MB - 128MB = 384MB. CMIIW
imisky said:
stock and netarchy kernel for me as well works great for those 3d games. put the CPU to ondemand at 1.2ghz and it will run amazing (stock 1.0ghz alone was amazing)
**keep in mind that the most graphic intense game i play is need for speed shift
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ehm. dungeon defenders is heavyer than need for speed.just saying.
rejanmanis said:
I prefer saying that Nexus S only had 384MB of RAM.
i can see that on my mem info of CM7 ROM only 345MB.
384 MB real , 345MB system read.
I can feel in true HD games, i used to use DeLL streak and playing Eternal Legacy HD, it cannot run while background apps running untill i kill all task and give me free RAM around 312MB . THe the game start perfectly.
On my Nexus S the game cannot run, just kick back to home screen, its like insufficient RAM ( it was not force closing ).
So i assume nexus S only has totally 512MB - 128MB = 384MB. CMIIW
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that the game closes back to home screen has nothing to do with the hardware.
it only shows that the game,does not support 2.3.3 or/and the nexus S hummingbird CPU.
it kinda bug's me seeing how many stupid people are out there.that go like.
"hey the game doesn't work on me ****(any 2.3( updated from 2.2) phone,in this case nexus S,allot of users said this)it worked fine on my ****(any froyo 2.2 phone or snapdragon cpu)
i love NSCollab it's work for me real goooooood ^^'
Hello i just wonder if it's possible to get more ram acces on htc sensation in the most rom you have like 560 ram, the phone have a kapasitet off 768 mb ram, if you can get more ram free the phone will be faster i think. Can some devoper answer me on that question if it possible to do that?
You don't think that a dev would get us more RAM if he could do that. Some of the total RAM is used for system processes and will never show up as available.
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More ram doesn't mean more speed.
If you deleted a lot of HTC stuff i looks like you get more speed with more ram available.
That isn't true, with those deleted apps you also kill a lot of background processes.
Thats the cause of speeding up.
On the other had your GPU also takes some ram if you increase it to gain more ram your GUI will be horrible.
Looking at the Bricked kernel which has even taken more ram to increase smoothness when playing games ect.
i have an idea
It's not exactly how much ram you have.. its about how much free ram. I'm running what's in my signature and I also have this app called app quarantine that helps. Maybe look into it? Try it out.
Also arhd Roma and fauxs latest kernels give extra RAM with zram and zcache
Whats the best rom for low RAM usage? Please share your opinions so I can choose one rom haha
Thanks a lot!
Depends on your needs. Only for phone calls? Gambling? Chatting?
Slim ICS is pure basics.
I use BLACK ICE KANGORADE after testing a lot of ROM's with AirKernel 4.2 'cause it's the best allround ROM. Fantastic battery life, big mem support for a lot of apps, stable.
The best would be you test a few selected ROM's. Each 2 days a new ROM.
BLACK ICE KANGORADE, AOKP B38, KangyUltra, ASOP+ N8, MIUI, CyberGR.....
Like stated earlier, depends on your needs. You may benefit a little from bigmem support kernels if you do a lot of gaming. If it's just for day to day use, most ROMs offer the same RAM usage. Keep in mind Android handles RAM very well on its own. Just use trusted apps and you should be good(no memory leaks).
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CM9 Roms are really good for having a good amount of ram
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what's important is that you have to manage the memory yourself, this will make a bigger impact on ram than the rom does. get rid of anything you don't need: light weight launchers like Launcherpro uses 200k memory if you minimise the widgets, and FORCE STOP Facebook services when possible, it takes A LOT of ram. use no more background services than neccesary, clock/weather widgets uses ram because of their background services. i perfer slim ics, its da best.
So, I would like to compare other people RAM USAGE
Is mine normal? I dont have 100s of Apps, i Disable junk i dont need and keep mydevice well running.
Well, Do Post ! and Offer Advice!
Has anyone rooted and got rid of the MOTO things in RAM, ??? Like Moto care etc image 1
So here is my ram usage. Not rooted or anything.
And my storage
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So here is my ram usage. Not rooted or anything.
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Image 1 ? Whats - Whatsapp2date?? What on earth is that?
It's an app that searches for the newest wa version on the wa server and you can download it. Sometimes new versions are on the server for weeks before they are found in the play store
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
are moto g with kitkat doing better in managing ram?since its a feature in 4.4.
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is tither started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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Wow! Thanks you very much for replying and giving this infomation, helps alot! You learn something new each day! Yes!
and wow! 130GB RAM and yeah it makes sense now True Say! i understand it better now :good:
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are moto g with kitkat doing better in managing ram?since its a feature in 4.4.
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What do you mean "better"? Are you implying that Moto G in JB does "bad"? JB manages the RAM well enough for everyone as far as I've heard. If you want to have a lot of open apps, then you're going to run out of RAM, that's for sure, doesn't matter what version you are using.
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What do you mean "better"? Are you implying that Moto G in JB does "bad"? JB manages the RAM well enough for everyone as far as I've heard. If you want to have a lot of open apps, then you're going to run out of RAM, that's for sure, doesn't matter what version you are using.
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wow,hold on brother~thats not what i meant,the benefit of kitkat as u all know is better management in ram,eg device with 512mb ram,i wanna know whatever ram management are bttr in kitkat compare to jellybean for moto g user out there.
don't be so piss next time,do some research on kitkat 1st,peace
I know what's new on KitKat, don't be afraid
What I wanted to say is that Moto G doesn't have any problems with RAM management, so you shouldn't expect anything much to change.
If you are desperate about the numbers, someone posted before that it decreased by ~20-30MB when idle. And if you want to see the changes with specific apps open, you would have to do a thorough inspection with 4.3 first, then compare it after the update. You wouldn't notice anything from the point of a user using the phone.
Thanks
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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Thanks buddy. You made this thread closed. Thumbs up :good:
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Do not worry about the RAM usage. RAM is there to be used. There is no point in the system keeping lots of RAM free, this makes the system perform worse. The idea is that as apps are used (either started by the user or automatically started when an app is woken etc) they are of course using RAM, the system keeps them in RAM so they can quickly be accessed next time they are required.
If the system closed all apps etc to free RAM you basically end up with more free RAM, but for what purpose. No use it sitting there empty - may as well go and buy a phone with 128MB rather than 1024MB if you dont want to use much RAM
If you start an app that needs a lot of RAM (more than is currently free) the system just removes older apps from RAM to free up the RAM required.
It is not worth comparing your phone's normal RAM usage to another phone, each person has different apps and uses the phone in different ways. It makes no sense at all to compare two phones where RAM is concerned.
Obviously there is the possibility that an app has a memory leak and starts to eat all the RAM up, but you would then most lilkely notice something was up with the phone, eg it slows down, things stop working etc. At that point you would reboot and note the RAM, then use the phone and monitor RAM every so often, at some point you may noitce RAM use going up and up to 100% - hopefully you are using a monitoring too to tell whats eating all the RAM and you then delete the app.
If your phone is running fine and you have some free RAM, even if just a smallish amount, then most likely things are running just as they should.
I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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One of the best explainations i have ever read ... Hats off
With regards to 4.3 v 4.4. Some processes have to always be running and therefore use RAM, ie android operating system processes. Google have made kitkat use less RAM (don't know how as actual coding of OS's isn't something I know about).
The outcome is the OS itself uses less RAM which leaves more RAM for apps. It means you can potentially have more apps 'running', but in general on devices with plenty of RAM its not that relevant. For devices with less RAM it becomes more relevant really as the device will run smoother if it has more RAM spare (ie not in use by OS) to keep apps in memory, which is why 4.4 should run on lower spec devices than 4.3 can run on.
Bear in mind a PlayStation 3 has 256MB RAM and 256MB video RAM and look at the games you can run on there. Slightly different as the ps3 OS probably swaps/pages memory to disk but AFAIK android doesn't, but it gives an idea of what you can do with 1GB of memory on a phone
Theoretically KitKat utilises ram more efficiently,when Google introduced project butter in jelly bean it added bulk to android,all those jellybeans and butter made android get fat, with KitKat they introduced project svelte to minimize the bulk and make the os leaner,Google reckons KitKat can run smoothly on 512 mb of ram, whereas jellybean,but don't quote me needs at least 1 mb I think to operate smoothly.I run a lot of apps and at least 11 xposed modules and I usually have Around 200 mb of free ram.just let android do its job,although saying that I do greenify Facebook.
Moto G UK with KitKat US (rooted)
This is just the phone idle after a couple of minutes, of turning it on.
No applications open, and i did remove the Moto Care and Motorola Assist using Titanium Backup.
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I am a UNIX sys admin and we have AIX (IBM's UNIX) servers with huge amounts of RAM, eg one Im looking at now has 130GB of RAM and its 98.7% used. Thats a good thing as we are making good use of the expensive RAM, if it was 50% used we'd be wasting 65GB of RAM which costs money.
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I'm an IBM tech and repair those types of servers. I work on everything from Power 7 down to the Power 4 and disk storage and tape libraries.
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I'm an IBM tech and repair those types of servers. I work on everything from Power 7 down to the Power 4 and disk storage and tape libraries.
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Off-topic but I actually stopped being an AIX sysadmin 3 or so years ago and now Iook after IBM SVC, DS8K's V7000's, VTL, TSM etc.
Now i using a HTC one X and using the viberX 4.0.7 rom cook of Venom
But the Ram always over 700mb,
could you guide me how to reduce the ram memory?
Thanks alot
You mean the consume of 700 mb of RAM, close those Apps that you dont need in background.
Also, RAM usage differs in various Android versions and UXs. For example, 4.4 AOSP is better with memory handling than Sense would ever be. On top of that, different kernels handle memory differently by different OOM values