my dad is going to get me a samsung captivate for my birthday next week, and I really want to get the most out of the device. I have several questions that I could not find the answers to:
1. what is the chance that loading a custom rom will brick the device? I see a ton of disclaimers on rom pages and stuff. how dangerous is this?
2. can you fix a "bricked" captivate? is it possible to flash it back to stock, or does bricked mean perminatly dead?
3. how long will it be until there is a gingerbread rom? I wanted to get the nexus s, but I have to go att. how long will I have to wait for that gingerbread tastyness?
thanks for the help.
ghost55 said:
my dad is going to get me a samsung captivate for my birthday next week, and I really want to get the most out of the device. I have several questions that I could not find the answers to:
1. what is the chance that loading a custom rom will brick the device? I see a ton of disclaimers on rom pages and stuff. how dangerous is this?
2. can you fix a "bricked" captivate? is it possible to flash it back to stock, or does bricked mean perminatly dead?
3. how long will it be until there is a gingerbread rom? I wanted to get the nexus s, but I have to go att. how long will I have to wait for that gingerbread tastyness?
thanks for the help.
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1. There is always a chance to brick your phone even if it is .00009% it is still there.
2. Make sure you can get into download and recovery mode with the 3 button combo. As long as you can get there then you can just about always recover no matter what you do to it. Key word being almost. There are also other ways to recover, look around and I am sure you will find them.
3. That part is still up in the air. Untill we get a full port. Right now we are still waiting (well at least some of us) for an offical 2.2 update let alone a 2.3 update.
Make sure you read at least the first page in the rom thread you are gonna flash for any extra instructions
so pretty much it is unlikely that I will brick it, and even if I do, it is possible to fix?
ghost55 said:
so pretty much it is unlikely that I will brick it, and even if I do, it is possible to fix?
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It is highly unlikely that you will brick it. Most bricks can be recovered from. The only time I have not been able to recover is when att did the OTA and it bricked my phone and I didn't know about jtag at the time so I sent back to att and it was replaced. Is it 100% umbrickable? No but i would say 99% as long as you read up first and follow the directions to a T you will be fine. I have flashed about 1500 times and nothing i could not recover from
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thanks. I just wanted to make sure that it was fairly safe to modify, because the phone is not cheap,and it would kind of suck to brick the device 10min ito owning it.
ya I was the same way as you, kind of nervous about bricking my new phone. Just read up on all of the various rom threads. If you have a good idea what you're doing the chances of bricking should be quite small.
I agree (with all of the above) and there is an excellent how-to link to YouTube vids in the Development section (too late and heading to bed or I'd link it) that steps you through rooting and installing ROM. I've been there, done that but it's a great reference for anyone thinking about installing a custom ROM....nice to SEE someone do it to ease the fears.
I got a LG p500. This is my 1st android phone and I found that "rooting" is the way to go. I googled and I cant really find a good list benefits that rooting can give me. Over the risk involved, that's a lot.
Now let me ask this first, as a casual user, what other benefits can rooting give me? I heard that I need to root before I can install apps to SD but I got an app that can do that. So what else?
What scares me is that I found a lot of posts that says that they got their LG p500 bricked. But reading this forums, I found that there mis now a one click root but I dont see the name of my phone in the compatibility list. Can anyone help me?
I'm not asking for you too spoon feed me, I'm just asking for a right amount of guidance. Thanks in advance!!
Nothing wrong with being a newb... gotta start somewhere, right?
Honestly, if you can do all that you need/want right now without rooting then don't root. Really rooting it is if you want to get into mod'ing, hacking and deep tech-ness from your device. There are some apps out there that require root in order to run, but as you said, you're a casual user.
If you do want to get into mod/hack/tech-guru-ness/etc. more and can wait til there is a safer one-click solution for your device, wait. Don't want to brick and [possibly] void the warranty right?
Best of luck and welcome to the fold, my friend.
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Nothing wrong with being a newb... gotta start somewhere, right?
Honestly, if you can do all that you need/want right now without rooting then don't root. Really rooting it is if you want to get into mod'ing, hacking and deep tech-ness from your device. There are some apps out there that require root in order to run, but as you said, you're a casual user.
If you do want to get into mod/hack/tech-guru-ness/etc. more and can wait til there is a safer one-click solution for your device, wait. Don't want to brick and [possibly] void the warranty right?
Best of luck and welcome to the fold, my friend.
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Actually, I just wanna do most of the stuff my phone will allow me, I dont like to be just 'scratching the surface' I wanna go deep and understand android.
with that said, I have used the z4 root, the 1 click root i got from this forums. it worked well. I have also spent a good few hours fixing my adb and i think i got it to work.
Now the problem is the 3 button boot. everytime i do it, my whole phone gets wiped, i figured i'm doing something wrong but what? how can i fix this? thanks in advance!
Hi, tomorrow I'm getting a nexus 7 (2013), and it's going to be my first android device, the thing is, as the first android device, I don't want to screw it up as soon as I get it.
There are some apps which I would like to get for it, for example the sixaxis controller app and anti ads apps but they require rooting, so the question is, should I root it and how safe is rooting. As my first tablet I want to be kinda safe about it, the thing which worries me the most is "bricking" and the fact that the warranty turns void, so I want to know how actually safe it is to root, I know there are different kinds of bricking, I already asked a guy on a youtube video and he said that it's unusual to get a nexus device bricked, expecially hard bricked, but he said that if it's hard bricked I'm kinda stuck, so is there no actual solution for some kind of bricking, please give me some advice, also this is my first post on the xda-developers forums, I was going to put links to the things I mentioned but I need to have at least 10 posts to put outside links :/.
MadJohny said:
Hi, tomorrow I'm getting a nexus 7 (2013), and it's going to be my first android device, the thing is, as the first android device, I don't want to screw it up as soon as I get it.
There are some apps which I would like to get for it, for example the sixaxis controller app and anti ads apps but they require rooting, so the question is, should I root it and how safe is rooting. As my first tablet I want to be kinda safe about it, the thing which worries me the most is "bricking" and the fact that the warranty turns void, so I want to know how actually safe it is to root, I know there are different kinds of bricking, I already asked a guy on a youtube video and he said that it's unusual to get a nexus device bricked, expecially hard bricked, but he said that if it's hard bricked I'm kinda stuck, so is there no actual solution for some kind of bricking, please give me some advice, also this is my first post on the xda-developers forums, I was going to put links to the things I mentioned but I need to have at least 10 posts to put outside links :/.
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Welcome to the forum!
Rooting is safe, as long as you don't do stupid things, if you stay responsible, nothing bad could ever happen. Responsible means Googling if you don't know something, and if something looks risky, don't do it and maybe search for an alternative.
I have rooted 8 devices, so far, never has one been bricked.
The rooting proces alone is really easy, even someone with no Android experience, like you, can do that.
But with rooting you'll have to unlock the bootloader of your device, that means all data of your Nexus will be erased, so it's good to root the Nexus 7 right after you buy it, so you'll lose no important data.
This thread will give you a toolkit for Windows, in which you can root and unlock the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430708 (use option 3 in the root section, everything is automatic)
Before doing anything, please read really good, and if you don't know what something means, Google it first.
With a custom recovery, you can make a full backup of the current state of your device, so if it's bricked, you can access the custom recovery and restore the backup.
So what you have to do when you buy the Nexus 7, download and install the toolkit, go to the root section, click action 3 (unlocked bootloader, root and custom recovery). You're rooted. Then go to custom recovery (Google it if you don't know how to get there), and make a backup, so if anything happens and you are bricked, use a key combination to get in recovery and restore the backup, just like nothing happened
Hope this is enough for you!
Don't forget, if you have a question, feel free to PM me or to reply on this thread
Ibrahim9999 said:
Welcome to the forum!
Rooting is safe, as long as you don't do stupid things, if you stay responsible, nothing bad could ever happen. Responsible means Googling if you don't know something, and if something looks risky, don't do it and maybe search for an alternative.
I have rooted 8 devices, so far, never has one been bricked.
The rooting proces alone is really easy, even someone with no Android experience, like you, can do that.
But with rooting you'll have to unlock the bootloader of your device, that means all data of your Nexus will be erased, so it's good to root the Nexus 7 right after you buy it, so you'll lose no important data.
This thread will give you a toolkit for Windows, in which you can root and unlock the bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430708 (use option 3 in the root section, everything is automatic)
Before doing anything, please read really good, and if you don't know what something means, Google it first.
With a custom recovery, you can make a full backup of the current state of your device, so if it's bricked, you can access the custom recovery and restore the backup.
So what you have to do when you buy the Nexus 7, download and install the toolkit, go to the root section, click action 3 (unlocked bootloader, root and custom recovery). You're rooted. Then go to custom recovery (Google it if you don't know how to get there), and make a backup, so if anything happens and you are bricked, use a key combination to get in recovery and restore the backup, just like nothing happened
Hope this is enough for you!
Don't forget, if you have a question, feel free to PM me or to reply on this thread
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Ok, thanks for the information, I was going to update the nexus to kitkat when I get it, so if I root it with kitkat I will still have the kitkat version right? I still don't think I'll root it when I get it, but this makes me feel safer about it, and when you say lose important data what do you mean? basically it will delete all the files I have on my nexus that weren't there in the first place(when I buy it) right?
MadJohny said:
Ok, thanks for the information, I was going to update the nexus to kitkat when I get it, so if I root it with kitkat I will still have the kitkat version right? I still don't think I'll root it when I get it, but this makes me feel safer about it, and when you say lose important data what do you mean? basically it will delete all the files I have on my nexus that weren't there in the first place(when I buy it) right?
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Yes, you're right about the last question.
When you root it, the KitKat version stays the same, don't worry.
Can you please thank my posts? Little effort from you and it really helps me
Ibrahim9999 said:
Yes, you're right about the last question.
When you root it, the KitKat version stays the same, don't worry.
Can you please thank my posts? Little effort from you and it really helps me
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Ok I thanked the posts, I already have my nexus 7, udpating it to kitkat right now, I will think about rooting later, I can do other stuff without it
edit: one more thing, does some of the apps that come with nexus get deleted on rooting? for example play store
that's right, rooting is safe if you know what you do, and do read first tutorials before doing it...goodluck
MadJohny said:
Ok I thanked the posts, I already have my nexus 7, udpating it to kitkat right now, I will think about rooting later, I can do other stuff without it
edit: one more thing, does some of the apps that come with nexus get deleted on rooting? for example play store
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No, literally nothing changes in your Nexus 7 with rooting, except for 1 extra app being added. That's it.
actually it is depends on your own
if you are going to use some apps which are needed to root then you have no choice but to root
like Titanium Backup, Greenify, Autostarts, AdAway, etc
Rooting
Rooting is fine but it comes with great consequences like bad security and you can brick it, there's many things that can go wrong. But if you get thru that daunting, annoying and sometimes scary process of rooting you open a world of freedom and fun.
I have an HTC droid incredible 4glte and i'm interested in rooting it and/or installing cyanogen on it, since it's already past its warranty. i've done a fair amount of reading about rooting and whatnot on this site and others, but i don't feel i know enough to get started w/o bricking my device or loosing data that i want to keep.
I have no software downloaded on my computer pertaining to my phone, and i've not actually done anything to my phone either: everything is stock.
is there a list of instructions somewhere that can guide me step by step (or more accurately, click by click... i really don't want to screw up my phone, especially since i'm not sure i'd know how to fix it) through rooting my phone beginning to end?
also, is there somewhere/someone who can answer these questions:
1. do i have to have a custom recovery if i'm rooting/flashing a new ROM?
2. what does the stock recovery do that's different from a custom one?
3. most importantly, can i root my phone and keep the stock OS/other stuff?
a million thanks to anyone who can answer these questions!
Hello,
Well I am giving you a link to an "index" thread. What it contains are links and guides to anything you need for that device. You will be required to do some reading and research on your own. Xda assist is for helping you find your way.
Look here
Good luck
I'm not usually one to make an account just to post and ask for help as I usually find it annoying on most forums I frequent, but at this point I am stuck.
I've tried the kingroot app, that didn't help. I used the desktop version, but it's in chinese and from what I could tell it wanted me to enable developer options, which I did, and it still wasn't registering my phone as being plugged in.
I've searched, and searched, google, here, a few other forums. From what I've pulled either this phone is nearly impossible to root or I'm just doing it wrong. I'd like to know what steps I need to take to root my phone, or if rooting this phone is even possible. Thank you very much for your help.
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I'm not usually one to make an account just to post and ask for help as I usually find it annoying on most forums I frequent, but at this point I am stuck.
I've tried the kingroot app, that didn't help. I used the desktop version, but it's in chinese and from what I could tell it wanted me to enable developer options, which I did, and it still wasn't registering my phone as being plugged in.
I've searched, and searched, google, here, a few other forums. From what I've pulled either this phone is nearly impossible to root or I'm just doing it wrong. I'd like to know what steps I need to take to root my phone, or if rooting this phone is even possible. Thank you very much for your help.
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Do not follow or use anything that the other member posted for you. It is not for your device, you have the T-mobile(are you sure it isn't AT&T?) I337, not the I337M. They are totally different animals.
Verify which one you actually have.
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Do not follow or use anything that the other member posted for you. It is not for your device, you have the T-mobile(are you sure it isn't AT&T?) I337, not the I337M. They are totally different animals.
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Yeah I just figured that out. Thankfully I'm really paranoid about bricking my phone.. Anyway, this was originally an AT&T phone, but I switched over to t-mobile.
Edit: For clarifications sake this is an i337 not an i337m
wumboisms said:
Yeah I just figured that out. Thankfully I'm really paranoid about bricking my phone.. Anyway, this was originally an AT&T phone, but I switched over to t-mobile.
Edit: For clarifications sake this is an i337 not an i337m
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Yes, I was pretty sure of that anyway, that's why I asked.
Try this thread below, it has many things for your device from Returning to stock via Odin, Downgrading to KK to root, Updating, etc..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
Pay close attention to the rooting and consider the downgrade to root if you think you need to, I don't have the I337 so I haven't had to research that deep into it. Root on lollipop if you can or go back to kit kat if you have to as long as you understand it and you are sure it's safe, downgrading can cause problems but I don't think that applies in this case, I'm not 100% sure of that though. Good luck.