Sorry for the dumb question, but I couldn't find this question answered anywhere.
Will this phone work on the Bell Mobility network in Canada? Obviously it has to be unlocked of course.
Ah crap, I just figured out that it will work on 2G only with Bell.
At least you can use wifi but 2g speeds really kill a phone :l
88fingerslukee said:
Ah crap, I just figured out that it will work on 2G only with Bell.
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No it won't. Bell's 2G network is CDMA.
Time to upgrade service providers. This phone WILL work with Wind Mobile, Mobilicity, and Videotron (quebec). Are you ready to quit bending over for Bubba Bell?
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Good day to you all,
I would like to know if there's any way at all that a T-Mobile G1 can access the Rogers 3G network. Radio update, etc?
I have posted this question in the Dream and Dream Q&A section with no responses. I'm sure this isn't specifically a development question, but you guys might know the answer.
Thanks!
no it is a hardware not a software limitation sorry
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
cursordroid said:
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
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yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
JJbdoggg said:
yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
correct - its a frequency thing, which is dictated by the radio hardware, not the sim or a software setting.
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yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
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So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
cursordroid said:
So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
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nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
JJbdoggg said:
nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
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Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
cursordroid said:
Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
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no problemo
i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
maek_it_happen said:
i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
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Rogers definitely supports full 3G, it's 3.5G (HSDPA) as a matter of fact.
The G1 runs on a different frequency and can't access the Rogers 3G, only EDGE data network.
The point of this thread was to see if the G1 radio was capable of using the Rogers frequencies... Guess not...
Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
Dharkaron said:
Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
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I bought a 'bricked' G1 on eBay for $40. I fixed it in a matter of minutes. I figured it was a hell of a deal, but I didn't think about the fact that I would be missing 3G here in Canada.
I already own the HTC Magic 32A (Rogers), this G1 is just to play around with.
No idea why anyone brought up SIM cards or whatever. That's utterly irrelevant, and only served to confuse people. Thanks.
The radio in the TMO G1 only supports UMTS Band I (2100) and Band IV (AWS). The Rogers G1 supports Band II (1900).
My recommendation is to resell that fixed G1, and find yourself a Rogers Dream.
You can convert your HTC Dream to 3G in Canada by replacing the antenna. Here's a link to a (probably) T-Mobile antenna as an example. But if you can find one for Canadian frequencies... Good luck!
Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
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Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
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what are you talking about they are the same thing
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what are you talking about they are the same thing
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i remember reading ppl having trouble rooting roger dreams , but maybe its cuz they didn't know ,,,, thanks for the heads up
Ok, I have tried the registry editor for sprint to force to roaming....the reason I want to do that, is because I'm in southern Ontario, and the Bell network is using HSPA (which is a lot faster), its under my understanding that I would not get billed for roaming if I am using a bell tower.......Thank you
the HSPA network is gsm and you are running cdma. So unless you get a bell sim card I don't see this happening.
drewcam888 said:
the HSPA network is gsm and you are running cdma. So unless you get a bell sim card I don't see this happening.
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and i dont think you get 3g on gsm?
correct i doubt the phone supports the bell 3g gsm band
i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
No it wont work on Bell.
2G only on Rogers Fido Chatr
3G only on Wind Mobilicity
Hemi-Cuda said:
i've been waiting for this phone for quite awhile (G2X and 2x) but i have no idea when any of the carriers in Canada are going to get it. what i'd like to know specifically is if i could buy an unlocked one and use it on the Bell network, are the frequencies the same for Bell and T-Mobile?
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I have a friend on Bell and their network is compatible with AT&T's not TMOs. He wanted a g2x as well but when he found out their was no support for Bell's 3G network he opted for a different phone.
I know this sounds like an utter newb question but Bell and all the resources I've checked are very ambiguous as to which bands it supports. I haven't been with them for a while and the resources online about Bell's network are ancient and unreliable. Just can't get a straight answer.
If so, I'm highly interested in getting a Sensation. Anyone wanna trade for an AT&T Atrix?
Unfortunately, it wont. Just like AT&T/Rogers, Bell uses 850/1900 frequencies for 3g, and this phone uses 1700/AWS. And for 2g, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bell uses CDMA technology for 2g, while AT&T, Rogers, And T-mobile use GSM for 2g, and this phone is a GSM phone.
This phone would work on Rogers, but from what I understand, it won't work on Telus or Bell.
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Unfortunately, it wont. Just like AT&T/Rogers, Bell uses 850/1900 frequencies for 3g, and this phone uses 1700/AWS. And for 2g, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bell uses CDMA technology for 2g, while AT&T, Rogers, And T-mobile use GSM for 2g, and this phone is a GSM phone.
This phone would work on Rogers, but from what I understand, it won't work on Telus or Bell.
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Thank you. I thought I read something about Bell having rights to the 1700/AWS band but that it may only be used for their 2G network. So little accurate information about our ****ty Canadian providers.
I have two Atrix's because of an issue I had with the first one, but it's fixed now. AT&T and Bell Atrix.... maybe I'll switch back to Rogers and just foot the ETF. I don't know...
Hi there,
I just got my verizon htc one m8 but I was wondering will this phone works with at&t sim card? Can I receive AT&T 4G LTE signals?
Any helps are welcomed.
Thanks in advance.
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
p2kmafia said:
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
denpad2010 said:
sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
zacwilliam said:
Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
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All in where ya live I guess and which provider you have. Sometimes my HSPA+ is quicker than my T-Mobile Lte...
I'm thinking about using an upgrade on a flip phone I have on Verizon to get this phone.
How hard would it be to get it to work on Straight Talk and since they use AT&T's network, would I be able to get HSPA+ too?
Thanks in advance!
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hspa and hspa+
hspa is 3g 850mhz 1.5mbps tops and hspa+ is "4g" 1900mhz 5-20mpbs tops which is really like a 3.9g theres a story behind this but im only answering the question which is which so pretty much this device is ready for either bands just check who's got those bands and you are ready to go ohh by the way no LTE if it isnt with verizon peace im out im batmaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Because Verizon’s 4G LTE devices use SIM cards, that means many of them (the global-ready ones, anyway) are compatible with the regular 3G/2G GSM bands used everywhere else in the world (no LTE, however). When traveling, simply pop in a prepaid SIM card, configure the APN settings with the network you’ll be using the phone on, and boom. You’re up and running on 3G. Same goes for AT&T in the US (again, no LTE because of incompatible bands).
It does get AT&T LTE, I have a GoPhone account with AT&T and get LTE with my M8. Only in some areas, get about 70% hspa, and LTE the rest, just depends on your location and the AT&T LTE bands used in your area, but the M8 does get LTE