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Begining to Dev. Need sugestions

Hey guys. I cam to the epic hopeing to see more roms and more exciting things. Instead, I saw a not really supported device. So I am going to begin to port other 2.1 roms so it could fill the gaps we have between getting froyo. So I need some start suggestions. My first port is going to be the Droid X rom 2.1. So if you guys want me to port other 2.1 roms, you would have to send me a ROM dump please.

Port Cyanogenmod.
Or make your own.
Do you have any idea what your doing?

xjman said:
Port Cyanogenmod.
Or make your own.
Do you have any idea what your doing?
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you are so getting sigged for this.. by far my fav post of the day

shabbypenguin said:
you are so getting sigged for this.. by far my fav post of the day
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He could call it im14andHAVEnothingTOdoMOD

smoothtaste said:
He could call it im14andHAVEnothingTOdoMOD
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lmfao
10char

I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.

rufflez2010 said:
I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.
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And this one makes my sig!

Why don't you start by porting the gingerbread dump you linked that seems like a good start.

rufflez2010 said:
I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.
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Not everyone speaks English as his or her first language,...
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*** Dameon87 sets mode: +m
Dameon87: Learn to code.
Dameon87: Now.
Dameon87: Bye
Dameon87: ....
*** Dameon87 sets mode: -m

wow some of you are unreal..... instead of judging the guy from his spelling how about giving him some idea's, the epic needs more devs...
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sryans2004 said:
wow some of you are unreal..... instead of judging the guy from his spelling how about giving him some idea's, the epic needs more devs...
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Dude he obviously has no idea wtf he is doing. He thought we could port the I9200 leak to the epic in a few minutes.... rofl.

Misspelling words are kinda key when developing. You don't want to misspell something and have it ruin your day with a device. He honestly doesn't know what he's doing. My only reason for the comment was due to the Gingerbread he wanted ported in 20 minutes. Go read that thread and you may agree with me then.

Chalup said:
Not everyone speaks English as his or her first language,...
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I realize that. I speak 2 languages myself. But I don't want him touching anything when commands need to be SPELLED CORRECTLY. He obviously struggles with simple words.

Ok... but maybe he is a fast learner, maybe he could help out the community.... you never know, so why not try helping him instead of putting him down?
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Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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sryans2004 said:
Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJH8ie4QIs
Again, not someone I would trust with my phone.

sryans2004 said:
Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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again tho, if he had come in and said hey my dad works for google i can get a leak of gingerbread for yall can someone help me, we woulda laughed but tried anyways.
instead a few weeks ago he joined heroc channel on fossnet and started pretending he was darchstar (one of our best devs) and he had a leak he was gunna work on with cm team to port it over. since then its spiraled into him being banned on fossnet and him evading it. now he is on the forum in another thread claiming there is a leak for gingerbread and demands that it is ported over, when i bust on him for being a fake he come in here and says he is gunna port a whole lot of roms for us we just need to supply the dumps....
again if he came here asking for tips on learning on how to start rom developing im sure he would have gottena lot of useful tips, instead he came in here like a fool and as such.... this is not an attack on him because of his age.. bubby323 has one rom out and is working on a sense port and he is under 18 (if he chooses to disclose his real age thats on him) but a matter of the mindset.

shabbypenguin said:
again tho, if he had come in and said hey my dad works for google i can get a leak of gingerbread for yall can someone help me, we woulda laughed but tried anyways.
instead a few weeks ago he joined heroc channel on fossnet and started pretending he was darchstar (one of our best devs) and he had a leak he was gunna work on with cm team to port it over. since then its spiraled into him being banned on fossnet and him evading it. now he is on the forum in another thread claiming there is a leak for gingerbread and demands that it is ported over, when i bust on him for being a fake he come in here and says he is gunna port a whole lot of roms for us we just need to supply the dumps....
again if he came here asking for tips on learning on how to start rom developing im sure he would have gottena lot of useful tips, instead he came in here like a fool and as such.... this is not an attack on him because of his age.. bubby323 has one rom out and is working on a sense port and he is under 18 (if he chooses to disclose his real age thats on him) but a matter of the mindset.
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I'm 14. Oh, and I have 2 ROMs out.

Ok listen up. Frst of all, I am typing straight from my epic, give me a break on spelling. Secound, I am not going to be developing on my own, as you may all know about IncredibleDoes in the incredible forum, well he was nice enough to offer to help me step by step on my first rom port (Droid X). I am still waiting on a reply from him so give me some time. And third of al, all of you ar telling me to port this that are not 2.1 roms when in the thread I said specificly 2.1! So calm down guys. I'm only trying to help.

Radio leak / removed threads

A few threads have been removed the past few hours. These are regarding a leaked radio which is known to brick devices and has been taken from a compromised server.
Reposting will not be tolerated. Distribution through PM, or even hinting that you may be available to spread it through PM or other methods, will be treated as open reposting. "Vacations" will be dealt out to those who do so.
This is both for your own good as for the good of others. Some of you are able to read between the lines - I have read it in your posts - and good for you.
Have patience, it will come.

if you build it they will come...

Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.

DemoManMLS said:
Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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ahh i see they listend to you

So that new radio that dissapeared is Mega crap also huh? How did wwe figure this out if knowone hardly has it. Just wondering I read it was an older version then the one currently being used by people like me. Is that a fact?

Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.

Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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+1
and it locks GPS way faster!!

+1..same here...everything just seem smoother or its probably just me

Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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I think the important thing is to protect sources. Not sure if it is bricking or not. Though I don't want to be the one to find out.
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I'm not sure, but this probably means GB release is very soon? Wouldn't that make sense?

It got pulled off every site within 2 mins. I just got lucky enough to snag it. But I will not distribute so please no pms asking for it
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I decided not to download it I'll wait and see what the devs say on it.
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bamf team is coming out with a new sense 3.0 rom(there is a preview zip available in the bamf 2 beta thread) so im guessing there is something coming soon, he seemed to stop once the brick issue came about, so why else would they and others update and create new roms for GB radios.

It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on

Nikolai2.1 said:
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.

nativi said:
Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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thats kind of how i feel.

Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.

Nikolai2.1 said:
Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/18/090518fa_fact_lehrer
seemed on topic with the whole not waiting thing

Pithism said:
its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
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The fact that we have an MR2 Radio means GB could be right around the corner. I have had one reboot with it, (although that might have been a fluke, as the phone had 3% battery left), and so far it is very stable, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an official build out soon.

Cyanogenmod 7 for SGS4G

Does anyone know when CM7 will be released for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G?

Johnmonkey0 said:
Does anyone know when CM7 will be released for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G?
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Not polite to ask when something will be done or released. A couple very talented individuals are working on it. When they are done it will be released. Have patience.
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Johnmonkey0 said:
Does anyone know when CM7 will be released for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G?
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I know exactly when it'll be done. Give me $1000 and I'll tell you exactly one year from now when it will be/was released.

FBis251 said:
I know exactly when it'll be done. Give me $1000 and I'll tell you exactly one year from now when it will be/was released.
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Lol
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when its done

Well, we have to consider many things.
First and most importantly, Google just acquired Motorola's mobile phones division for $12.5 billion. That means that they are gonna be a major hardware manufacturer and the phones that they make will probably be able to handle Android better than the rest of the competition.
Also, don't forget that 2011 is the year of the rabbit. The rabbit is a swift little creature and it doesn't like to get caught.
If we compare cyanogemod to the rabbit, and then compare that to google's purchase of Moto's mobile division, then we can clearly see that there's no connection between any of these things.
So long story short, yes, we still don't know. We're all just sitting tight.

sad part is once they get cm7 they will want something else lol

I'm hoping for a MIUI released right after that

RaverX3X said:
sad part is once they get cm7 they will want something else lol
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That does seem to be the way the world works these days, right? I rofl at people with a sense of entitlement.
Honestly, does it really even matter right now when CM7 will be released? Seemingly every day our wonderful developers are releasing new ROM's. Pick one, love it, and live with it. Or pick a few and love them!

pudgybunnyBry said:
people with a sense of entitlement.
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ugh dont even get me started on that. it is ridiculous how some people just expect others to help them. im about to leave xda because of it.

jager555 said:
ugh dont even get me started on that. it is ridiculous how some people just expect others to help them. im about to leave xda because of it.
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That'd be pretty tragic for the newbies here man... You answer the most questions.

jager555 said:
ugh dont even get me started on that. it is ridiculous how some people just expect others to help them. im about to leave xda because of it.
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Very understandable. In the time I've been with this forum, I've seen a lot of that going on and it's ridiculous. Internet browsers should pop up a notice saying "Don't forget the search feature!" when somebody opens a new tab or window lol
I'd hate to see you go, also. It would be a loss for us!

Just checked and it said the guy working on the port still needs a kernel

[Q] [INTEREST] Okay... it's Bounty/Reward Time for ICS

I jumped from the Vibrant to the Infuse, and I've noticed development here is a little on the anemic side. I've seen a few people discuss starting a bounty/reward for an Ice Cream Sandwich port and wanted to see if anyone else was down or interested.
If it's just me then I'll be quiet and mods can delete this thread.
Update: Please try to make reference to +1 or "Yes I'd contribute to an ICS Port" if you want this to happen. Finding developers is easy enough if we have the numbers and support from the community.

I will be content with an official GB at this point. ICS would be a great bonus but only if HDMI and Bluetooth work.
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i think this would be interesting to try out

You can't have your cake and eat it to....
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dman3285 said:
You can't have your cake and eat it to....
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On my birthday I did lol
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KingVekxin said:
On my birthday I did lol
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+1
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KingVekxin said:
On my birthday I did lol
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You can either have it or eat it. If you eat it you don't have it anymore.
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We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.

Dani897 said:
We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.
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+1
I'm game, zmattmanz, I guess you can test the waters and contact these devs to see if it's even possible. Then we can see who is willing to fork over some cash

xIC-MACIx said:
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I'm game, zmattmanz, I guess you can test the waters and contact these devs to see if it's even possible. Then we can see who is willing to fork over some cash
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Pm.... I got razor950 #
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Optimus-Prime said:
Pm.... I got razor950 #
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PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?

zmattmanz said:
PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?
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That would depend on the sex...
But yes ICS would be sweet!

I'm up to support a bounty.
+1

zmattmanz said:
PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?
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I hate to break it to you but, ICS has been whored out to every phone BUT ours...it'd be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway
On a more serious note, I think once you get interest from the devs more ppl would jump on; if you dangle the possiblility of a confirmed ICS rom for our phones, we will get some fkn bounty money

xIC-MACIx said:
I hate to break it to you but, ICS has been whored out to every phone BUT ours...it'd be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway
On a more serious note, I think once you get interest from the devs more ppl would jump on; if you dangle the possiblility of a confirmed ICS rom for our phones, we will get some fkn bounty money
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Just pissed myself laughing at what you wrote. I sent one PM -- if anyone has any contact information start throwing it up or recommendations of people to contact.

I am working on building an ICS AOSP rom. It is slow going though as I've had other life issues going on. I bought a nexus 4g and just got ICS AOSP built and running on it yesterday as a first step just to help me with learning how everything fits together.
I'm just doing this for fun to learn how Android works, so I don't really expect fast progress. I do own two Infuses so I'm covered there. I do have to admit the possibility of a bounty would encourage me to move faster

I'll be spending a lot more time over the next few days working on ICS. I've got a kernel in the works, hopefully I can finish it in the next day or two and test it out.

That's good to hear fellas. Take your time, we Infuse owners know how to wait for something. (i.e. Official Gingerbread) Lol

If you need help ajerman ill be on irc later...been busy lately
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Dani897 said:
We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.
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To netarchy's credit - he did talk on IRC with us, and saved me a TON of time in terms of Daily Driver development. He has never had a big forum presence - just look at the Ninphetamine thread, he was a major contributor to that kernel but only posted on the thread 11 times over its 2,900+ post life. Hacre (aka Ninpo) always did the release engineering portion of the work.
He got sick after QuakeCon which put him behind, and then real life stuff came up. It was disappointing, but at least we got some pretty good stuff out of his donated device even if it is not obvious to most users.
I'm going to try and shoot him a message (I don't think he checks XDA PMs any more, but I have other ways of getting in touch with him) to see if he is willing to give the device to a Cappy or Nexus kernel dev who wants to upgrade. (I would prefer if the device goes to someone with more time than I have to focus on it.)
razor950's device donation was unfortunate - he has a long history of saying "I'm helping you guys but don't have a device!" and then disappearing immediately after he receives it without a word. You have, IMO, no hope whatsoever of getting anything from him.

[Q] Unfinished ROM's

Just curious, but...
It seems like, as of late, someone starts to build a new ROM, then stops updating after 2 or 3 rc's, leaving the ROM unfinished. I understand the ROMs are created in someone's spare time, but why start a ROM if you never intend to finish it? Why not finish it before you start something else, or just delete the development thread so we're not sitting here waiting for the next release that never seems to come? No offense to anyone, just curious.

Roms are never really finished you can always add new functions
, themes etc.
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PhantomSectre said:
Just curious, but...
It seems like, as of late, someone starts to build a new ROM, then stops updating after 2 or 3 rc's, leaving the ROM unfinished. I understand the ROMs are created in someone's spare time, but why start a ROM if you never intend to finish it? Why not finish it before you start something else, or just delete the development thread so we're not sitting here waiting for the next release that never seems to come? No offense to anyone, just curious.
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Quit flashing ROMs since you'll never have a 100% guarantee that someone will finish a ROM. Go back to stock GB which has a bad modem and reboot problems. Oh wait, Samsung didn't exactly give you a good ROM either.

Why is it that if the ROM never gets a final version its assumed its unfinished? The unfinished ROMs, ics mutt, cm7, miui, are all still works in progress (well maybe not miui, not sure of it's future). Seems to me everything else is fully functional and doesn't require anything else.
All the the most recent ones, unnamed, vb, icbinb, scom, these are problem free. Just find the right kernel and modem for your phone and they qualify as finished.
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Im still updating mine but this post makes me not want to
And like the post above me said the title doesnt have to be final for it to be final. Also, the dev can choose to start a new rom bc people want the new mod they are bringing to it along with a new theme and tweaks.
So thank you devs for the many roms you guys release.
if you ain't first you're last

I think you should aim to non beta ROMs. At least this way you know you get a fully functional ROM. Regarding Final version, forget about it. Won't happen, won't be announced.
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itzik2sh said:
I think you should aim to non beta ROMs. At least this way you know you get a fully functional ROM. Regarding Final version, forget about it. Won't happen, won't be announced.
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Final version of which are u sure won't be announced?
if you ain't first you're last

most developers acknowledge that there are going to be some dev cycles involved in their releases. I guess some non-developers either don't realize that or haven't picked up on that yet.
Nothing's perfect so take it as it is and don't complain, and if it has a "final" tag on it, it just means the developer is done working on it. Beggars can't be choosers, and choosers can download the source and modify it themselves (or fsck it up even more ).

Quit your belly aching dude, instead, a little appreciation would be a welcome change. We have so many different options to choose from. And every time my noob ass bricks my phone these guys have a post on how to fix it. Fb is right, go back to stock if it bothers you so much, but I'll stick with my 2 day battery life.
side note: on dictionary. com the word of the day is ungrateful turdlicker.
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I think that people get desperate when devs release and early version of a rom instead of an almost final. I think it would be best to release the "final" version to public and since there are many devs with the phone and so many wise users that know how to test and report correctly. In my humble opinion, a dev should pick a group of testers, silently and then release a "final" that probably would have 0 to very few changes. That way devs don't get pissed when people ask same questions and bring up many problems.
I have no problem testing or trying alpha, beta, charlie, delta......... zeta releases, but my concern is with devs releasing lots of projects and getting mad by people asking how to this and how to that. Yeah, read... blablabla yadda yadda... I know no one is in the obligation of doing nothing, either flash or develop or answer questions or help. Thing is that this is a community very diverse and noobs are going to be noobs, haters gonna hate and passive people will be passive...
No need to flame the OP. I think it's a good question, tho.

considering i no longer have a sgs4g it would be hard to update it. The rom itself is fine.. Don't see an issue. If you don't like the theme change it. If you don't like the rom learn how to make your own.

chris31jct said:
I think that people get desperate when devs release and early version of a rom instead of an almost final. I think it would be best to release the "final" version to public and since there are many devs with the phone and so many wise users that know how to test and report correctly. In my humble opinion, a dev should pick a group of testers, silently and then release a "final" that probably would have 0 to very few changes. That way devs don't get pissed when people ask same questions and bring up many problems.
I have no problem testing or trying alpha, beta, charlie, delta......... zeta releases, but my concern is with devs releasing lots of projects and getting mad by people asking how to this and how to that. Yeah, read... blablabla yadda yadda... I know no one is in the obligation of doing nothing, either flash or develop or answer questions or help. Thing is that this is a community very diverse and noobs are going to be noobs, haters gonna hate and passive people will be passive...
No need to flame the OP. I think it's a good question, tho.
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When a rom is release an OP comes with it where bugs known are said from the get go. As for bug reported devs are fine with them as long as logs are attached and they are real bugs and not just "I want a better theme" or "how do I install this rom".
As for flaming, it's actually a rule that we can't do this to one another on xda.
if you ain't first you're last

With posts like this, why even try?
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thomas.raines said:
With posts like this, why even try?
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Yup I don't think people appreciate the time put in. And the reason we get early releases is because we all want something new, and we can help bug test. But eh.
if you ain't first you're last

Eric, what if we say "no offense " before we flame someone... Then it's cool right?
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jwalters1123 said:
Eric, what if we say "no offense " before we flame someone... Then it's cool right?
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Nope, if you read my posts I'm not flaming the guy but I am sharing my view on this. I haven't insulted the OP but like him shared my view on why roms get released early and why we don't get final builds.
if you ain't first you're last

Oh
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Oh
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Lmao now idk if you're trying to imply something on me or you're being genuine lol
But yea we all have our opinions but this kind of thread discourages devs and before we get a troll saying that's a lie just look up and you'll see thomas(a dev) doensnt like this.
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Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all dev work even if it's "unfinished" or w/e. Is just that this kind of discussion has been around since the beginning and people knew this phone ain't easy. Not trying to discourage any further development.

Lol, I'm just being extremely sarcastic, dude should try fb's vb by raver, that thing is tits!
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