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Hi,
I was just wondering if it is absolutely REQUIRED to unlock the bootloader to flash a rom on the nexus s and why? Can I use Clockwork recovery image without unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060974
Thanks,
but what are the advantages of unlocking the bootloader instead of using some other exploit like this?
Thanks!
Unlocking the bootloader deletes all user data on your device and resets it to factory defaults.
Hi,
But what is the advantage of losing that data and unlocking the bootloader than using the exploits?
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None that I can tell. If you stay on stock rom, I would consider it an advantage NOT to lose all data and settings.
If you want a different rom like cyanogenmod, then you will likely have to wipe your device anyway to avoid random problems. Then you can unlock the bootloader, too, while you are at it, because you have to backup everything (you don't want to lose) anyway.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to flash stuff directly on the phone from your computer, things like a custom recovery, radio image, fully stock roms and so on.
This in turn allows you to root of flash another rom.
Otherwise, rooting without unlocking probably entails exploiting a security flaw of your device, something I'm not too uncomfortable with.
Before 2.3.2 though you could boot a custom recovery from a file on your computer without unlocking. This was fixed as it was a big privacy and security issue...
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So does that mean if I don't unlock the bootloader, I can't use Clockwork mod and flash a rom like cyanogenmod?
Not exactly. You can gain temporary root and install clockwork recovery by means of various exploits of security holes.
You can then use that to install any rom you like.
So pretty much unlocking the bootloader is the easy and safer route.
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Exactly. Since you should backup your data anyway before you tinker with your rom, you might do it anyway.
You can lock the bootloader after you finish flash a new ROM
Yeah, but with clockwork mod you can run a nandroid with or without an unlocked bootloader, so what's the point?
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patrixl said:
Before 2.3.2 though you could boot a custom recovery from a file on your computer without unlocking. This was fixed as it was a big privacy and security issue...
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Everybody with an USB cable has full root access to any Nexus S running CM7 (using CWMs ADB capability) and nobody seems to care?
1st: You don't need CWM for CM7, AFAIK.
2nd: The same is true for any NexusS with unlocked bootloader.
3rd: The attacker could also use the gingerbreak exploit or similar to gain root access and neither a locked bootloader nor stock recovery will protect you.
It is the same as with your computer. Someone who has physical access to the machine usually can do anything he wants.
The solution is quite simple too: don't give anyone unsupervised access to your phone. That includes of course not losing it...
So its safer to unlock it?
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Yes and no. It depends on what kind of security you mean, too. The unlockable bootloader is a feature. Using it is the standard way to go.
An exploit could install keyloggers or spyware or whatever without you knowing.
However, an custom rom from somewhere could have keyloggers or spyware preinstalled, too.
Basically you have to decide yourself, how much risk you are willing to take.
I still can't get the advantages of unlocking it.
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I mean, can you flash clockwork mod with a locked bootloader?
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Only with certain versions of the bootloader, not all. It was a security hole like others have mentioned. It was later fixed.
My wife accidently updated her phone to the newest OTA and I am wondering if I can still root my phone.
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drsteven2 said:
My wife accidently updated her phone to the newest OTA and I am wondering if I can still root my phone.
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It's a Nexus, you can always root.
So I can root with the current root method with no problems?
Not to hijack your thread, but I didn't want to make an entirely new one and it's kind of a related question.
So I've never rooted my NS before and I'm on 2.3.4. Is there any way I can root without having to wipe my phone, or will I just have to bite the bullet and do it.
I've been perfectly fine without root up until now, but the new colors really bug me and would like to fix them.
Usually when you root data usually gets lost what are you trying save?. The only thing that u are going to be able to save are your contacts.
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drsteven2 said:
So I can root with the current root method with no problems?
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Not sure what the "current root method" is, but it's the same process as usual: flash ClockworkMod Recovery, mount /system, apply the su zip, done.
(with the usual caveats about doing things properly so the recovery patcher doesn't trigger and remove CWM just after you flashed it)
ok well this is my scenerio..
i just bought my nexus s yesterday.... i got the OTA 2.3.4 and updated it..
i just want to know the EASIEST process to root my nexus s as i am not adb literate. Every phone that i had has been rooted previously so i never had to root a phone but i am getting all these threads to root the nexus s and damn it has to do with adb which i have no clue how to use.. but once im rooted i can change rom change themes etc.. its just the rooting process.. well any methods are welcome..
p.s sorry to jack your thread man
the first time I used adb was yesterday to unlock my nexus s and it really wasnt too bad so you should be good
Will this guide work with 2.3.4 without wipe everything? (i havent unlocked bootloader) h**p://download-apk.blogspot.com/2011/05/tutorial-rooting-unlock-bootloader-for.html ? If it's not, is there any way to root my nexus 2.3.4 with stock rom without wipe? I would appreciate any answers. Thank you.
Computar said:
Not to hijack your thread, but I didn't want to make an entirely new one and it's kind of a related question.
So I've never rooted my NS before and I'm on 2.3.4. Is there any way I can root without having to wipe my phone, or will I just have to bite the bullet and do it.
I've been perfectly fine without root up until now, but the new colors really bug me and would like to fix them.
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Rooting does not require wiping IF your bootloader is unlocked. An open lock is shown below the Google tag when booting if you're unlocked.
Unlocking bootloader will always wipe for security reasons.
Make sure to sync contacts before doing anything. Then start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
After that, flash a custom roms by the developers. They already comes with root and updated kernels. Hope this helps
Its almost 12 at nite, off to bed i go.
Anyone know of a non-destructive root method for ICS? My wife and I are swapping phones. Mine is rooted and all but hers isn't and I want to make a Titanium backup of all her stuff.
So far the only method I know of to root is via OEM unlock and flashing clockwork recovery. Then installing su via CWR. The OEM unlock erases everything.
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I believe you can root it without unlocking the boot loader using SuperOneClick but I could be wrong. Either way worth a try
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Move the TitaniumBackup folder to your PC before starting. Don't forget your pictures folder too!
just copy your entire SDcard to your computer , and then after unlocked bootloader copy it back
Thanks guys, but that doesn't restore any apps or their data.
I'll try the superoneclick.
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you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463564
seems to be new method wothout unlocking bootloader
cbstryker said:
Anyone know of a non-destructive root method for ICS? My wife and I are swapping phones. Mine is rooted and all but hers isn't and I want to make a Titanium backup of all her stuff.
So far the only method I know of to root is via OEM unlock and flashing clockwork recovery. Then installing su via CWR. The OEM unlock erases everything.
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My understanding is that you can unroot as needed, so I wouldn't consider rooting the S "destructive". There are instructions to be found easily that explain how to unroot your phone.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant -- disregard the above.
Can't you back up most stuff using MyBackup?
sninkychan said:
My understanding is that you can unroot as needed, so I wouldn't consider rooting the S "destructive". There are instructions to be found easily that explain how to unroot your phone.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant -- disregard the above.
Can't you back up most stuff using MyBackup?
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I think he means the wipe accompanying a bootloader unlock as being destructive.
- chris
use root toolbox its only 4 bucks so dont be cheap. then copy sdcard to computer , the root, copy sd card back and ur done
Ya, problem is that root toolbox requires root.
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cbstryker said:
Thanks guys, but that doesn't restore any apps or their data.
I'll try the superoneclick.
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Did superoneclick work for you? I'm also looking for a way to root my phone without wiping it with the possibility of unrooting it again after.
motomeup said:
Did superoneclick work for you? I'm also looking for a way to root my phone without wiping it with the possibility of unrooting it again after.
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Actually I found another program that works even better (imo). It's called RootUnlocker and it worked for both the Nexus S running 4.0.3 and the LG Optimus 2x running 2.2. However, it didn't work for my Acer a500 but there's currently no method to root 3.2 on it. You need to down grade first.
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Edit: Correction, it's not called root unlocker, but rather Unlock Root (http://www.unlockroot.com).
What is the difference between unlocking the bootloader on my device and rooting my device? I understand that in order to root, you must unlock the bootloader first, but what exactly does each process do? Why does Asus provide the means to free your bootloader but not a full rooting of the device? Once I unlock, why can't I just download clockwork mod from the Play Store and start flashing roms?
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You do not need to unlock to root,you need to unlock to install roms. Rooting would give you access to change some settings run apps that require root access adblock etc... unlocking allows you pretty much full control of your device at the cost of loss of your warranty.
Different?
I think in this is small mistake... for root you need unlock bootloader, becase when U want root this device U can do this with ZIP file, somewhere on XDA is thread about this, and if U want use CWM Recovery to root with using ZIP file U need unlock bootloader for install CWM recovery...unlock bootloader - for this is app from Asustek, U can use this after download and install on ur tablet but waranty is down...
root - if u got this u can use this dev. like super user....in ur terminal and for ur apps from Google Play too
different is probably in this: root is superuser access X unlock bootloader give u new opportunities for install ur ROMs and CWM
I´m sorry if I´m wrong....and sorry for my terrible english... I though about problem ... no about language
Taskkill said:
I think in this is small mistake... for root you need unlock bootloader, becase when U want root this device U can do this with ZIP file, somewhere on XDA is thread about this, and if U want use CWM Recovery to root with using ZIP file U need unlock bootloader for install CWM recovery...unlock bootloader - for this is app from Asustek, U can use this after download and install on ur tablet but waranty is down...
root - if u got this u can use this dev. like super user....in ur terminal and for ur apps from Google Play too
different is probably in this: root is superuser access X unlock bootloader give u new opportunities for install ur ROMs and CWM
I´m sorry if I´m wrong....and sorry for my terrible english... I though about problem ... no about language
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i remember i read somewhere that there's a one click tool to root, use your windows pc and run it, no need to unzip any zip files,
No need to unlock for just rooting.
Use this tool for rooting. I have successfully done in windows.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26918790
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Taskkill said:
I think in this is small mistake... for root you need unlock bootloader,
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This is not true, you do not need to unlock the bootloader to get root, see the following topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526487
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704209
Personally I used the tool in the 1st and 2nd post, the 2nd post is based on the 3rd post. I still have my bootloader locked because I don't want to lose my warranty, since I got my Transformer TF300 only recently and it was repaired already by Asus because of random reboots. There diagnosis was "system unstable" and replaced the mainboard. Since the repair I'm real happy now, the random reboots are gone.
Totally right. You can root without unlocking. So you can use apps like Titanium backup and so on.
If you like to flash custom Roms you need a Custom Recovery like CWM or TWRP. To get this you need to unlock your bootloader but doing this means no warranty any more.
If you brick your Pad with an unlocked bootloader and send it back to Asus you will have to pay for this (Was about 240,00€ for a User on a German Forum).
oh late
I´m sorry guys... I found how-to-root without UnLock Bootloader information little bit late... probably 5-6 hours ago.... I finded one of 1-click... app but I didn´t find this... damn it... O.K. thanks for u´r reaction
but one thing I must say to nooktablet
nooktablet said:
i remember i read somewhere that there's a one click tool to root, use your windows pc and run it, no need to unzip any zip files,
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I use my windows PC .. and my Linux PC ... but I´m from ones who like make everything step by step and who like full controll myself action...(sry for terrible language ) so I just like to say...I make it in my hands and without some app like 1click .. but thanks for u´r recommendation
So since one doesn't seem to require the other, what do you recommend I do first? Unlock the bootloader first or root first?
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mijoru said:
So since one doesn't seem to require the other, what do you recommend I do first? Unlock the bootloader first or root first?
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it comes down to what you want to do w/ the pad and how old it is. once you unlock the bootloader, you void your warranty w/ ASUS. they say it right there as you unlock. if the tab is brand new, wait a while. i rooted out of the box to gain access to some apps but did not unlock yet, my tab is only 2 months old. JB is just around the corner. waiting for that
when unlocked can install a custom recovery like Clockwork or Team Win, which in turn allows you to make backups and flash other ROMs. rooting just gives you super user privileges on your phone/tab so you can do things like browse the root of the tab, debloat apps, modify the build.prop using Root Explorer, install Titanium Backup to backup apps, run Browser2Ram, all the while keeping your warranty. a combination of being both rooted and unlocked is the ultimate goal for a habitual rom flasher
slinker1 said:
You do not need to unlock to root,you need to unlock to install roms. Rooting would give you access to change some settings run apps that require root access adblock etc... unlocking allows you pretty much full control of your device at the cost of loss of your warranty.
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hhmm,, if i root my phone, my user data and content of phone will be erased or not? is bootloader different?
I haven't unlocked my bootloader but I have rooted it when I bought it. ..don't even remember how. ..It was in the beginning. ..lol and have restored root at every update using voodoo root keeper. ..my tab is rooted, has supersu and titanium back up and all root apps work, but is still boot locked...my 4yr old son is using the tab for last 2 years. .
Now I want to update it to lollipop, so iam back here. ...lot to read for me now
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khent_balz01 said:
hhmm,, if i root my phone, my user data and content of phone will be erased or not?
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No.
Hi,
Its my first post on XDA. I have a problem with root.
I really need rooted device, but I don't have PC around me, so I can't use ADB, fast boot etc.
Is there any chance to root my Xoom 4.1.1 with just a Xoom in my hands?
I have my sgs2 if that can help
You're going to struggle with this, I think there is the odd method that can root without unlocking the bootloader, heard of one a month or so back, it's around here on XDA somewhere but that also I'm pretty sure needed a PC. The standard method won't work then because you don't have a PC.
My answer is you're probably not going to be able to do it
Jezusek said:
Hi,
Its my first post on XDA. I have a problem with root.
I really need rooted device, but I don't have PC around me, so I can't use ADB, fast boot etc.
Is there any chance to root my Xoom 4.1.1 with just a Xoom in my hands?
I have my sgs2 if that can help
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You don't "root your xoom to 4.1.1." You flash a custom rom to it that is built off of 4.1.1.
The bootloader needs to be unlocked to root. You're going to need a computer to unlock the bootloader.
Cubanluke88 said:
You don't "root your xoom to 4.1.1."
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He didn't say that...?
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My bad, read it too fast. Either way the device needs to be unlocked to root, AFAIK.
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