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Galaxy S2

Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!

Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.

That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...

I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though

SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.

Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.

I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.

that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.

I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/

SO gps works...
BRB preordering

Glad they put the USB at the bottom

yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory

I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?

bri315317 said:
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"

You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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[Q] Time to Upgrade: Need Information on Various Phones, and respective problems

As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
I would greatly appreciate some discussion and information on these various devices and the problems and plus's of each. I like the Atrix due to its power, battery and potential if the bootloader is ever unlocked. The Inspire is interesting due to the wide amount of development but I have sever concerns about the power in comeing years, battery life, despite ROM's and the speaker. I like the Infuse's screen, power, and, due to unlocked bootloader, development potential.
I have had Samsung "dumb" phones in the past, the SMS flawed Impression and the sub-par Solstice, so i have some concerns about Samsung phones. I like HTC but dislike them putting tiny batteries in their high end phones. Motorola is generally OK but I understand support is a bit lacking. iPhone is super reliable but I believe the OS is stale and boring. Also, i worry about the 4's future with the advent of the iPhone 5 in the coming months and, like I said, I like Androids.
Lets get some discussion going!
This is posted in the General's of all 3 phones. Excluding the Focus.

AudioMaster13 said:
As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
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I currently have an iPhone 4 and have an upgrade available but if I had to choose another phone to upgrade to the only option I would really choose is the Infuse 4g, or (if I wait) the iPhone 5 or GalaxySII in September.
I love the IPS high resolution display of the iPhone 4 and the only way someone could get me to switch is with a phone that has greater outdoor readability such as SuperAmoled+. Atrix and Inspire screens just dont cut it for me.

AudioMaster13 said:
As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
I would greatly appreciate some discussion and information on these various devices and the problems and plus's of each. I like the Atrix due to its power, battery and potential if the bootloader is ever unlocked. The Inspire is interesting due to the wide amount of development but I have sever concerns about the power in comeing years, battery life, despite ROM's and the speaker. I like the Infuse's screen, power, and, due to unlocked bootloader, development potential.
I have had Samsung "dumb" phones in the past, the SMS flawed Impression and the sub-par Solstice, so i have some concerns about Samsung phones. I like HTC but dislike them putting tiny batteries in their high end phones. Motorola is generally OK but I understand support is a bit lacking. iPhone is super reliable but I believe the OS is stale and boring. Also, i worry about the 4's future with the advent of the iPhone 5 in the coming months and, like I said, I like Androids.
Lets get some discussion going!
This is posted in the General's of all 3 phones. Excluding the Focus.
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Just upgraded from captivate to infuse and loving it...even though this thing is basically a giant captivate with a major upgraded battery, front facing camera and amazing 8 megapixal camera...this phone feels so smooth and zips... dunno if its the 1.2 gigahertz processor or just the software, though one thing i miss about my captivate is the ROM support we are starting slow in that regard but are recruiting some of the best developers from other phones so expect big things from developers on the infuse
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Get the infuse 4g single core better battery life, sgs2 dual core lol why you need dualcore when are you going to install photoshop for windows on a phone lol, and having dual core for for me the great disadvantage for for it is is always having to look for an outlet to charge the phone, that's what you called not being mobile, + the high price tag. Just debt use task killer on an android phone. Just use Juice Defender it saves you battery turn of wifi when not in use, and it turn of 4g too while activate edge so you still receive messages
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Atrix has a locked bootloader and is therefore not worth buying.

rjan22 said:
Get the infuse 4g single core better battery life, sgs2 dual core lol why you need dualcore when are you going to install photoshop for windows on a phone lol, and having dual core for for me the great disadvantage for for it is is always having to look for an outlet to charge the phone, that's what you called not being mobile, + the high price tag. Just debt use task killer on an android phone. Just use Juice Defender it saves you battery turn of wifi when not in use, and it turn of 4g too while activate edge so you still receive messages
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Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.

johnnydeathmatch said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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What bubble you silly butt. Your a kid right?
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rjan22 said:
What bubble you silly butt. Your a kid right?
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No, I'm not, which should be evident from my ability to use proper spelling and grammar.

johnnydeathmatch said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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This would only be true if the software (OS and apps) were optimized for the dual core. At this point they are not and dual core phones seem to be eating batteries like candy.

johnnydeathmatch said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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gross over simplification. now when the phone sleeps (most of the time if it is your pocket) you need to support 2 cores, not one.
also your example up there wont happen in the real world. the cpu governor wont just go to 50% and give up as to compare it to another processor. also the 2 cores will never be at similar levels and im sure they are not independantly scalable just yet. data is processed in threads. the end of the thread cant be processed before the begining it need to be done from start to finnish. although, with a pc that has hyper threading it may be able to interupt the thread to start another one and finish the first thread later you cant parellelize everything, multi core and hyper threading are much more effective if many applications are running or applications have processes that can be parallelized and are written to run then that way in multiple threads. what will happen with the simpler arm chips is more likely that there will always be one core working hard (not always the same core) and the driver will force the other core to run at the same frequency(not even the gpu is scalable independant of cpu on any platform i know of, i doubt each core is scalable independantly on the dual core stuff) but it will only be working maybe 30% of the time on shorter threads. for your assumption to be correct you would need applications written in for multi threading and more sophistication in the way the cpus are handled and a governor tuned explicitly for battery life.
dual core may reduce lag when you have a background service running though. that may feel like a significant performance increase even if the cores aren't being fully utilized, this may help with using the phone as a wifi hotspot, or downloading files while playing games. i dont think we should go beyond 2 cores for a while on phones because it is difficult to run multiple applications at the same time with little screen real estate, and any multi tasking will leave most applications idle most of the time. the whole os has been tuned for less lag even on slower hardware. that usually means fewer threads that may be longer. my home pc is a 3 core, i could have had a 4 core or waited for 6+ core but the real world difference is dependant on so many things, i just didnt see the point.

johnnydeathmatch said:
No, I'm not, which should be evident from my ability to use proper spelling and grammar.
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Okay my bad I actually remember my 3 gay school mate always use that word on my college years, nothing wrong being gay just saying I just remember.
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[Q] Moto Photon vs. Samsung Within (GSII)

Since I am getting ready to upgrade and Sprint looks to be getting both the Motorola Photon and the Samsung Within (GS2) I'm still having a hard time deciding, especially since neither phone is out yet.
However, I ask this......is there anything the SGS2 doesn't do well? I have heard nothing but great things about this phone and still hear it being called "the best Android phone to date". Looks as though the Sprint version might be slightly larger but otherwise assuming similar specs (except for maybe the CPU).
One thing to note.....not too interested in the differences between MotoBlur and Touchwiz. Will get used to them how they are or just install a new launcher and be done with it.

Anyone???
**BUMP**

CCallahan said:
Since I am getting ready to upgrade and Sprint looks to be getting both the Motorola Photon and the Samsung Within (GS2) I'm still having a hard time deciding, especially since neither phone is out yet.
However, I ask this......is there anything the SGS2 doesn't do well? I have heard nothing but great things about this phone and still hear it being called "the best Android phone to date". Looks as though the Sprint version might be slightly larger but otherwise assuming similar specs (except for maybe the CPU).
One thing to note.....not too interested in the differences between MotoBlur and Touchwiz. Will get used to them how they are or just install a new launcher and be done with it.
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Only thing bad with the SII is battery life (but of course it varies according to usage).

I've heard only fantastic things about the Samsung Galaxy S II. Reviews everywhere consider this one of the best phones on the market (if not *the* best).
Maybe when both come out it's worth checking them out at the store (and checking the reviews on the Motorola handset).
I've heard that the US version of the SGSII might include a bumped up processor so it can compete with the new Iphone (I think I remember 1.4 gHz being tossed around).

theo80 said:
Only thing bad with the SII is battery life (but of course it varies according to usage).
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This will be a business phone so it gets talked on all day long normally with bluetooth active and some GPS.
First I have heard of the SGS2 having bad battery life. If this is true then it is not the phone for me.
Anyone else confirm this?

CCallahan said:
This will be a business phone so it gets talked on all day long normally with bluetooth active and some GPS.
First I have heard of the SGS2 having bad battery life. If this is true then it is not the phone for me.
Anyone else confirm this?
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You could browse the dedicated GSII subforum to confirm (there is a "bug" in the stock GSII, as far as I understand), but any phone will only last you a day at most if used heavily for calls.

I may pull the trigger on photon bc its world phone. I'm traveling to the middle east next week, so I will bring it with me (will have my bb as a back up)

I think it comes down to what you want.
There are really 3 contenders
Evo3D
- 1.2Ghz Dual Qual / 1G Ram
- 3D camera (gimmicky, I know but still)
- 4GB storage
- Locked bootloader (for now)
- qHD 960x540
Photon
- 1.0Ghz Dual Tegra / 1G Ram
- Webtop
- 16GB storage
- Locked bootloader (for now)
- qHD 960x540
Within
- 1.2 Exynos / 1G Ram
- 16GB storage (or 32G?)
- Not sure about bootloader
- only 800x400 but it is samsung so still amazing
So of the three, I ordered the photon today (Sprint Gold), mainly because I think the extra 12G onboard and the WebTop are more useful than the 3D camera, and the Tegra chipset has optimized games. However, the lower base clock speed may lose on benchmarks in the OC race... tho I found my single core 1G Evo to be plenty fast for todays needs when OC'd to 1.197 so dual core at 1.5 for the tegra should be plenty fast.
The only thing holding me back from the Within was late release date and the 800x400 screen.
Speaking of which, lets get going on the Moto Photon Forum! I'll have my phone in a day or two and be ready to start hackin it up!

Now is the best time to upgrade?

Has anyone noticed the jump from 512MB of ram to 1GB? I think now is the perfect time to upgrade. The RAM combined with the processor Specs are evolving quickly. But i think the amount of ram we see in android phones will bank at 1GB for a while. Until android apps find a way to fill up that memory. Even android tablets don't fully use 1GB of the RAM they have. This means customers will be satisfied for quite a while with 1GB of ram. and in return, longer upgrade lifetime. I honestly don't see android phones with 2GB of RAM coming soon so right now would be the perfect time.
And yes, processors may evolve but i think they aren't going to be much faster or have more cores until new battery technology is found that can pack 2-3 amps per battery.
In conclusion, Phones should stay at 1GB RAM and 1.5GHz Dual-Core for a while
What do you think?

I think the phone's are very good now and way better then the 1GZ and RAM phones, but I don't think they will stop at 2cores/1.5gz. I got my SGS2, becuase it was the first smart phone that I liked and it takes alot to make me pay 600 for a phone.
I would say that Smart phone will likely start to slow down a bit like PC have soon.

4ktvs said:
I think the phone's are very good now and way better then the 1GZ and RAM phones, but I don't think they will stop at 2cores/1.5gz. I got my SGS2, becuase it was the first smart phone that I liked and it takes alot to make me pay 600 for a phone.
I would say that Smart phone will likely start to slow down a bit like PC have soon.
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That's what i forgot to mention
Buying a phone with 2GB of ram is like buying a netbook.
Soon laptops/netbooks will meet the android phone

as soon as the Quad cores hits the streets you'll most likely see 2GB RAM and newer version of ICS 4.x that will use up all that memory
our phones are turning more and more into a portable PC

One Mini vs Nexus 4

Hi,
I know that such comparison may seem a little odd but after 3 solid years using iPod Touch as smartphone replacement I'm finally buying something new and I end up narrowing my choice to those two.
I would like to get some opinion/advice from actual users of One Mini as my sister has Nexus 4 and I played with it a little bit.
Basically it seems like Nexus 4 is just better but I'm still hestitating.
Pro Nexus 4:
- it's cheaper (I can get Nexus 4 unlocked in Poland for ~380 USD and One Mini for 470USD)
- way more powerful
- twice as much ram - I guess it's possibly a deal breaker - Is 1GB real problem in everyday use (e.g. multitasking Maps, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter and Instapaper)?
- stock android and updates! (I guess last update for HTC One Mini will be Android 4.4)
Pro One Mini:
- it's smaller! 4,7 is nice but I still find it a little bit too much for me.
- it's just beautiful
- aluminium better than glass
- Probably better battery life because Nexus 4 is apparently awful. Am I right?
- Probably better audio. I'm particularly interested in headphones jack audio quality as my iPod Touch was really good.
- LTE (though I guess I won't be using that much)
+ Is there something there I've omitted what would justify buying less powerful, ram lacking smartphone for almost $100 more?

I wouldn't underestimate the importance of battery life in a smartphone, especially if I understand you correctly that you haven't actually been using a smartphone for 3 years? An Ipod Touch has no cellular network connection so a smartphone's battery life isn't going to be comparable.
While pretty much all smartphones have decent battery life these days to get you through a day of light to medium usage, the Nexus 4 is definitely on the low side.
1GB RAM is fine for a smartphone. For comparison a 3 year old Ipod Touch has 256MB. The iphone 5s, faster than pretty much any other smartphone, has 1GB.
That said, your point about the Nexus getting Android updates for longer is a valid one.

MercuryStar said:
I wouldn't underestimate the importance of battery life in a smartphone, especially if I understand you correctly that you haven't actually been using a smartphone for 3 years? *An Ipod Touch has no cellular network connection so a smartphone's battery life isn't going to be comparable.
While pretty much all smartphones have decent battery life these days to get you through a day of light to medium usage, the Nexus 4 is definitely on the low side.
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I'm actually kind od hardcore iPod Touch user. I use iBluever (cydia tweak) to connect to the Internet via cellphone and after three years battery life is awful when you take into account that bluetooth is supposed to be energy efficient. It's 11.55 AM up here, battery was full at 8.45AM, I used Spotify offline for half an hour and browsed for another half an hour. Battery is now 55%. When it comes to battery life I just want to have device which will survive my workday (12-14 hrs outside home).
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1GB RAM is fine for a smartphone. *For comparison a 3 year old Ipod Touch has 256MB. *The iphone 5s, faster than pretty much any other smartphone, has 1GB.
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I know, but isn't that true that Android needs more memory than iOS to be really fast in everyday use?*
Thank you for your answer!

I know, but isn't that true that Android needs more memory than iOS to be really fast in everyday use?*
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People say a lot of things about memory use and Android that aren't true or are half-truths. What I do know is that the One Mini is not laggy or slow by any means.
I get annoyed by people who write reviews that tend to judge a phone's responsiveness by the most shallow means: simply by swiping between home screens or bringing up the app tray. Then they compare this on a Galaxy S4 with an older Samsung phone with 1GB and conclude that the Galaxy S4 is faster because of its 2GB RAM. So many things wrong with this! Firstly, no matter how much you swipe between home screens and bring up the app drawer you're still within the same app - you're not testing the OS, you're only testing the home screen app! And three's no way that home screen app uses over 1GB RAM - probably more like 50-100MB at most. To really have a test that taxes memory you'd need to switch between several *different*, memory-hungry apps (like a browser with many tabs open, a heavy game, etc) rapidly. Secondly, the comparison is always between newer, faster processors with 2GB RAM and older, slower processors with 1GB RAM. The obvious answer to why the newer one is faster is that the processor is significantly faster, not the RAM since the home screen app won't be taxing that much RAM anyway. And thirdly, very few reviewers look at mid-range phones like the HTC One Mini - but even with 1GB RAM it is arguably more responsive swiping between the home screens and bringing up the app tray even than the full-size Galaxy S4 with 2GB RAM. How can you observe this and still conclude that the RAM is the defining factor in performance? If reviewers looked at lower-spec "modern" (ie, not with a 2-year-old processor) Android phones with 1GB RAM they'd see similarly that 1GB RAM is fine and that the reason that flagships were slower back when they had 1GB RAM is not because of their lower RAM but because they were slower, older phones.

MercuryStar said:
People say a lot of things about memory use and Android that aren't true or are half-truths. What I do know is that the One Mini is not laggy or slow by any means.
I get annoyed by people who write reviews that tend to judge a phone's responsiveness by the most shallow means: simply by swiping between home screens or bringing up the app tray. Then they compare this on a Galaxy S4 with an older Samsung phone with 1GB and conclude that the Galaxy S4 is faster because of its 2GB RAM. So many things wrong with this! Firstly, no matter how much you swipe between home screens and bring up the app drawer you're still within the same app - you're not testing the OS, you're only testing the home screen app! And three's no way that home screen app uses over 1GB RAM - probably more like 50-100MB at most. To really have a test that taxes memory you'd need to switch between several *different*, memory-hungry apps (like a browser with many tabs open, a heavy game, etc) rapidly. Secondly, the comparison is always between newer, faster processors with 2GB RAM and older, slower processors with 1GB RAM. The obvious answer to why the newer one is faster is that the processor is significantly faster, not the RAM since the home screen app won't be taxing that much RAM anyway. And thirdly, very few reviewers look at mid-range phones like the HTC One Mini - but even with 1GB RAM it is arguably more responsive swiping between the home screens and bringing up the app tray even than the full-size Galaxy S4 with 2GB RAM. How can you observe this and still conclude that the RAM is the defining factor in performance? If reviewers looked at lower-spec "modern" (ie, not with a 2-year-old processor) Android phones with 1GB RAM they'd see similarly that 1GB RAM is fine and that the reason that flagships were slower back when they had 1GB RAM is not because of their lower RAM but because they were slower, older phones.
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It's defiantly a very snappy phone, but when I have several heavy apps open the apps it starts to lag at times, but closing an app solves the problem so it isn't a big deal. I think it's the memory that's responsible for it. Quad core phones are usually running with two cores disabled to save power, but they can multitask better because almost all of them have 2GB of memory to work with. I always run my phone under-clocked to 1.134 GHz to save battery and everything is always butter smooth until I have lots of heavy apps open. The UI is always snappy, if an app is lagging and I open the notification menu it opens smooth as butter and if I press the home button it goes to the home screen instantaneously so I don't think it's the processor that slows the phone down.

Ecstacy42 said:
It's defiantly a very snappy phone, but when I have several heavy apps open the apps it starts to lag at times, but closing an app solves the problem so it isn't a big deal. I think it's the memory that's responsible for it.
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Android's memory management is such that the memory used by any app not currently in the foreground is expendable and can be purged when the memory is needed for something else. This applies to pretty much every app except those that have specifically requested to run in the background - for example, part of a music player app.
If you run, say, 9 memory-hungry apps one after the other, then probably by the time you run the 4th or 5th the operating system is probably going to start purging the memory that was held by the first ones you had open, to reclaim memory so it doesn't run out of free memory or cache. When it does this, the apps that are purged are given the opportunity to save their state to disk so if they are switched back to, you get the illusion that they never closed. Not all apps do this particularly well.
Note that the list of recent apps in the app-switching menu that you get to by pressing the app switching button/double tab on home on Android phones does not necessarily mean that these apps are still all resident in memory. Some may have already had their memory purged by the OS, saving their state to disk. Swiping these away does purge them manually if they haven't been purged already.
Individual apps may be quick or slow to save their state to disk or may misbehave in this area. This is something that can happen whether you have 1GB or 8GB RAM but is of course going to happen more often if you have 1GB. App misbehaviour when switching to/from an app or when the app is requested to close or suspend is probably going to be the biggest cause of lag when task switching for most people. The home screen app on the Sense 5 devices definitely is very snappy and doesn't seem to cause any noticeable slowdowns. I don't know if HTC has pegged the home screen app to be always-resident though I suspect not; it's probably just quite well-behaved.
I always run my phone under-clocked to 1.134 GHz to save battery and everything is always butter smooth
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This is a testament to the awesome processing power of these Snapdragon Krait CPUs. Another thing to note is that the power management baked into them probably means they would rarely go over 1GHz anyway during normal use, so if you limit their max CPU speed to 1.1GHz like you did, it will only make a difference during high CPU load situations, not normal use or even I/O heavy use (such as network or disk communication).