Should we have a separate forum for Sense ROMs and AOSP ROMs? - HTC Sensation

Any chance we can have a separation (or sub forum) to distinguish between Sense based ROMs and true AOSP ROMs? The true development of AOSP ROMs is what this community excels in, and I think there should be an easy way to find those ROMs without digging. Additionally, people who like Sense will never consider an AOSP ROM so giving them there own sub forum to play in might also make sense.
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webmaster said:
Any chance we can have a separation (or sub forum) to distinguish between Sense based ROMs and true AOSP ROMs? The true development of AOSP ROMs is what this community excels in, and I think there should be an easy way to find those ROMs without digging. Additionally, people who like Sense will never consider an AOSP ROM so giving them there own sub forum to play in might also make sense.
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That would be awesome and very useful but I think it won't be possible... Cause if we can have it all can! So the forum will need a lot of editing in all phones' threads
Why double post?
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matt95 said:
That would be awesome and very useful but I think it won't be possible... Cause if we can have it all can! So the forum will need a lot of editing in all phones' threads
Why double post?
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My first post didnt have a poll. So be sure to vote if you like the idea!

it ain't gonna happen.
Same as someone asked to split the forum between ICS and GB....that certainly ain't happening so I can't see it being split just to separate Sense and AOSP roms...

Just read more
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Too much duplication & extra resources...won't happen from stuff I've read in the XDA General discussion sections.

Proper named threads are good enough for me

Yes and no. Don't forget that there is a whole bunch of forums, and sub forming everything would get complicated.

Properly tagging thread titles should be more than enough.

Are there any aosp roms for the sensation which the users flash?That when cm9 and senseless roms are not counted in.

I think there are 2 issue:
- We don't have a specific rule for create a thread's title for a rom.
- developers put to many feeling words on their rom's title. That's make each rom's name is too long.
I like all the rom threads have their name somewhat like this : [ Android version] -[ MIUI/AOS or Sense version ]-[ rom name] - [rom version] - [ last updated's date ]

If possible that would be great, but if not I think the prefix of the ROM threads must be clear i.e. [SENSE] & [AOSP]

tritran18518 said:
I think there are 2 issue:
- We don't have a specific rule for create a thread's title for a rom.
- developers put to many feeling words on their rom's title. That's make each rom's name is too long.
I like all the rom threads have their name somewhat like this : [ Android version] -[ MIUI/AOS or Sense version ]-[ rom name] - [rom version] - [ last updated's date ]
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Well then we have to talk to devs and mods about it

there are about 4 distinct non sense based ROMs, many Sense based ones, and many de-Sensed ones. This almost suggests 3 sub-forums, except that (1) many devs hope to do ROMs of more than one type & this would force them to track multiple threads for their active work and (2) we as knowledgeable users need to be able to read enough to tell things apart.
You want an index? Bookmark http://htcsensationroms.com.
Yrs,
dkephart
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One of two ways.
Either force developers to properly name the thread and keep the "Stable, FAST, Solid, etc.) comments to the forum itself and out of the title, or separate forums.
[ROM/Kernal/HELP] [Date] [OS, ICS or GB, etc.] [Revision Number]
Easy...but it must be followed. No need for "Stable, Fast, etc.".
That is for the users to decide, if you ask me.

tritran18518 said:
I like all the rom threads have their name somewhat like this : [ Android version] -[ MIUI/AOS or Sense version ]-[ rom name] - [rom version] - [ last updated's date ]
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Second that. Second that soooo much.
This ASCII stuff and useless non-infos are really, really annoying.
Someone playing pipes (╚══╬) in his threadtitle make me think of a 12year old kid, not a serious developer i trust with my phone stability or data

YES! I am always weeding thru the Sense Roms.

dajogejr said:
One of two ways.
Either force developers to properly name the thread and keep the "Stable, FAST, Solid, etc.) comments to the forum itself and out of the title, or separate forums.
[ROM/Kernal/HELP] [Date] [OS, ICS or GB, etc.] [Revision Number]
Easy...but it must be followed. No need for "Stable, Fast, etc.".
That is for the users to decide, if you ask me.
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Errm actually it is the ROM makers choice in what they put as the thread title and frankly if a user told me to remove what I have as my thread title I would tell them to do one (probably in slightly harsher language )
I doubt many chefs would like the users to dictate what must / must not be included in the thread.
Just my 2 cents
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monkey29992 said:
If possible that would be great, but if not I think the prefix of the ROM threads must be clear i.e. [SENSE] & [AOSP]
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That is a better idea
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Jonny said:
Errm actually it is the ROM makers choice in what they put as the thread title and frankly if a user told me to remove what I have as my thread title I would tell them to do one (probably in slightly harsher language )
I doubt many chefs would like the users to dictate what must / must not be included in the thread.
Just my 2 cents
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Your opinion, being a Dev...you're certainly entitled to it.
However, since users are your target....and there's more of us, it would just be nicer/easier to sort through the BS..sorry...

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[REQ] De-Sensed vs Non-Sense. Please clarify when posting custom ROMs...

Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms listed as non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we be a little more definitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRULY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truly non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truly Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truly vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
---edited my original post, I can see how the one instance of my use of the word "claim" might make the frustrations of my original post offend them, though no name calling or finger pointing was intended, my bad---
It looks like someone is trying to get his post count up. Lmfao. LEARN HOW TO READ THE TITLE OF OP. If you cant read thats NOT the devs fault. My title is clear as day. Weird how your the only one complaining of an issue thats not even an issue. I saw a commercial for hooked on phonics. Its on sell for 49.99 plus tax. Might be a great investment for you. Rather then bash developers for your own inability to read titles and ops I would get that book.
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Oh and true vanilla aosp roms is not 40-50mb its 80-110mb. Just fyi.
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We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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AndroidAutobot said:
Loving the work that's been done here so far... but after downloading and installing not one, but two different 200+MB-sized roms claiming to be non-sense when they're really sense-based ROMS that have had sense elements stripped from them, can we PLEASE be a little more difinitive in the composure of these custom ROMs?
I need a TRUELY non-sense ROM (vanilla based). Sense-based ROMs don't work with the WiiRemote Controller IME, and neither of these "non-sense" ROMs in this forum work with it, because they still lack the element that Vanilla android has but Sense ROMs exclude (can not recall the exact element but still).
I think it'd be reasonable to list Sense-stripped ROMs as "de-sensed" and truely non-sense ROMS (built off of Vanilla Android) "non-sense".
I admit, Most of you on here compiling these roms know a whole lot more about this than I do, so I could be mistaken about something (in which case I'll stand corrected). I'm just getting tired of taking the time that it does to download and install these seemingly gigantic ROMs (as I recall a truely Vanilla ROM is usually only 40-50MBs at most, not 200+) to find out they're not ultimately doing what I need them to.
One of, if not the utmost reason I've rooted my MyTouch4gS is to utilize the WiiRemoteController IME for use with the emulators. I might just have to wait until Cyanogenmod jumps on board with this phone to get a truely vanilla-based ROM ::shrugs:: who knows. If someone out there knows how to accomplish this, I anxiously await your efforts. Thanks =)
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Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
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computerkid23 said:
We didn't make an error..I'm sure undead would agree ” senseless” means removing the htc overlay that is put over android....launcher, lock screen, widgets and other bloatware no typical user ..uses or understands....a ” senseless rom is just what we provided ....now let me clarify ...if it was a ” vanilla” rom the word ”senseless ” would be of no use because it would be AOSP which clearly isnt sense..also if we took every component out of the rom containing anything sense it would still be..sense lol AOSP isnt stripped down per say it is compiled from source .....I'm glad you like our work but when undead or myself or both of us decide to take the time to do AOSp or whatever you will know...
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Thank you for your more civilized response. I did not intend to imply that you or undead made an error by any means. I apologise (to you, not him, if he had been a little more civilized I might be more remorseful) for any offense I may have brought to you. That was not my intent.
I only intended to bring stronger definition between senseless and AOSP. Which you've provided me and I now understand where I was wrong. It was my mistake, as I understood the concepts of building AOSP from the source and stripping a sense-based ROM, but did not previously realize that what I was looking for was an AOSP ROM built from source and not a sense-less ROM. Given your explanation, I agree and now understand what I previously did not comprehend.
And undead - What are you 12? I wasn't bashing anyone nor did I intend to. You clearly took my meaning completely wrong. I'm confused, it says you joined this community a month ago. Where do you get off trolling a member of this community who's been around here 2 years longer than you have? Cool your jets. Lets try and keep this place civilized and not act like children. If you misunderstand someone or think that someone's being offensive, please take an approach more similar to how computerkid handled the situation. It was simply a misunderstanding and, as such, did not require name calling or any of the absurdly superfluous (if you don't understand the meaning of that word, perhaps you should get some hooked on phonics) insults you've thrown my way. I'm not really going to designate any kind of response past this defense. I'm not trying to troll, these are merely the 2 cents I've earned after what you've just unnecessarily expressed. Chill out dude.
Romanbb said:
Truly AOSP-based ROMs will not come for a while. I'm not sure if someone has started a device tree for CM7 or not. It needs to be done otherwise.
No one will be "compiling" ROMs until the above is done. It's 7zipping all the way to the top until then!
Even when we do get AOSP based ROMs, don't expect them to work as well as Sense based ROMs for a LONG time. Even then, it may never be the same level of quality (even though it'll likely be a lot faster)
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Thanks for the knowledge.
Sorry for posting in this forum, I posted it here because it was a request for any ROMs being posted here in the future, which seemed to bear some relevance until I stood corrected (which I do).
The only other time I've rooted a Sense-based phone was when I ended up rooting my MyTouch3G Slide months after I had owned it, when CM was already available for it. So I didn't previously realize what an endeavor it is to achieve what I'm waiting for.
Given the information I've obtained from this thread, it makes a lot of sense that it would take some time.
Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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So far the devs all seem pretty clear about how they just removed the Sense overlay/UI or some of the Sense / mySense elements and I also hope they continue to be as definitive; it doesn't seem like they're cliaming they're AOSP-based. Usually devs will post when a ROM is AOSP-based or CM7-based so you'll know what you're getting yourself into, and the devs thus far have done a respectable job of defining what they've done, which is for the most part, take the stock ROM and remove just about as much as possible to streamline things.
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Mods please remove this crap out of the development thread. This users inability to read ops is the root cause of his issue and common sense woulda helped him resolve this ”issue” ! He also created a thread JUST LIKE THIS in my nonsense thread, computerkid23 tasteless venom thread, and in the general section of the mytouch 4g slide.
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Wow youre a piece of work.
It was relevant in the development thread to start, as it was a request for future development (duh). two mere comments in other threads (that did pertain to the ROMs in particular, where this one pertains to future ROMs) is hardly cross-posting as youre acusing me of. And what post in the general thread are you even speaking of? Ive never even been in the general thread for this phone. Youre loosing your mind.
This thread however is clearly no longer relevant because it was based on a misunderstanding of what i was actually looking for. Again... How old are you? I swear my 3 year old nephew is better tempered than you are lol.
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Not to fan the flames but the development section is for active development not requests those go in general or q&a but we didn't get a q&a in our sub forum
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Ok guys enough already. Dev is not for requests or Question threads. I have moved this thread to General. Now as for the rudeness IT STOPS or you will be on the wrong side of a ban. Plan and simple. If you are looking for a certain aspect of a rom please do your research on the rom. If you dont see if something is supported ask the Dev about it. As for the thing you are looking for, if the source code is available then you can build one from source. But with the lack of things i see I am not sure if it is even released.
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[Q] Forum for ICS

Hi. I look no more slowly through here. I use gingerbread and search and browse every day for something new. But constantly ICS threads between them, annoy me. Would not it make sense to create a separate category / forum for ICS within the Sensation Forum?
Regards, Pierre
Not really IMO, while they annoy me too I have a feeling once the official update comes out and more people install it then we'll see less threads on it.
I hope so... Everyday people ask the same things a thousand of times...
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What's the point when everyone will eventually have ICS anyway?
There will not be a new forum created specific to ICS.
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[Q] Development section getting filled with identical Roms

Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Nope. Its because of people like you that dev's leave or stop developing for devices.
You'd rather be picky and pick which developers can stay and which have to leave because of "unsatisfactory" work.
Im sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You really don't have a say in that.
Everyone has to start somewhere and everyone has the right to create a modified or custom rom. Leave them alone.
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OllieArmageddon said:
Now that there's tools for the average 13year old to kang up a rom or just re-release a Sense 4 Rom, the development section is getting flooded with identical Roms, I think each Rom thread should have a poll, and if it has had say 100 views after 2 weeks at least 5% of the viewers have to run it, not download, install, remove because its the same as their last rom so they just restore nandroid for all setting and apps back, but run it as daily.
There's 15+ Sense 4 Roms, at least 10 are identical with different wallpapers and maybe hard set leedroid tweaks installed.
They all mention about being deodexed and zip alligned but let's face it, the so called developers have not developed these roms at all and they need to stop.
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Completely disagree... I mean...what are you doing here in xda? You should be kicked off immediately...
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Dude... Stop being such a turd, I know you may be annoyed by it but each developer has put in hours upon hours sat at a computer just for those roms to work. Each Rom has something different. Without all these amazing developers many people would have left this phone long ago. They are xda. So please stop your moaning.
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Can we please have a mod take a look at this thread? Also, reported.
EDIT: If you read this and it made you feel this way, then I think you should go through the post once more; you've misunderstood it or I have.
EDIT 2: Disagree with the OP, but let's keep this clean, please? Remember the thread is about the ROMs in the development section & not about the Original poster
totally disagree as well.
why don't you use the so called "13 year old tools" you speak about to make your own ROM and take a hike? oh i know why, because you don't know how to use them. you're not only disrespecting XDA and the Devs, you're also disrespecting your device. Android and it's openness is not for people like you.
Please stay on topic guys. The OP makes a valid point which is even talked about on the portal.
There are multiple sides to this "issue". Some might argue that XDA is site for original development, others might say that there a place in this world for every single ROM, no matter how it was created.
In the end XDA is a public forum where we will always have different opinions.
That said, please stay civil here, or the thread will be closed.
I might say, the sensation development section has many ROMs with similar base, but to say ROMs are identical, then no.
And to make a note that every single device is different than the other, one ROM that works perfect for me, might not work perfectly for you, and here comes the benefit of this diversity in ROMs.
Never noticed identical dishes! Seems to be a nice variety of menu items!
Dear sir, you are incorrect!
I totally disagree. If in fact you are bothered
by the options Available here at xda I suggest you FIND ANOTHER forum. I for one am grateful for the options available to me and for ALL the developers here at this forum!.
They all have a very important contribution to this forum. SHAME on you for suggesting otherwise..we are entitled to a opinion I have mine you have yours. :
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I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...
OllieArmageddon said:
I'm not saying they should be all closed down, I'm saying if they don't kick off within 2 weeks - month then should we have a poll to whether they stay open or even get moved to an Early development section, or at least be able to distinguish between succeeding roms and ones with 10 downloads in 2 weeks,
I agree that people need somewhere to start developing, but should there be a lower class development section, then as a Rom grows move it to main development section?
I'm sorry for the grumpy OP, it was early and I missed the days of my HTC Wildfire's development section, each Rom had huge differences and you would pick one to match your life style, now you just pick a base,
The recent post in XDA news about cyanogen wanting people to start a Rom from scratch, build it up completely different from any other, that's what I would ideally want.
I'm sorry again for the offensive OP
I didn't get my banana today...
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Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.
I don't see the point in your suggestion. The forum does that by itself, the popular roms stay on the first page while those with less users end up in the pages afterwards.
As long as devs aren't kanging each other without permission I don't see a problem with new roms. Your original argument that the sense 4 roms are all the same is understandable in a way. The devs working on sense 4 are doing an amazing job and they have gotten rid of the majority of bugs. Without thr amount of devs that are working on it, there is no way sense 4 would be where its at on our phones. You seem to be basing this "lack" of variety of roms on the ui. This argument is almost completely irrelevant at this point since the fusion.apk in sense 4 is locked down, and this is the base for the majority of ui changes on sense itself. There's probably 8 sense 4 roms and the majority are made by exceptional devs who are working together on getting sense 4 to the best state possible.
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kgs1992 said:
Now, when you calm down and talk in a suggestive manner, I can understand what you mean.
But really, is there that much scope for development? How much can change today?
How ready are you to try something that you know isn't stable?
The fact is if someone were to start off with something new, they surely wouldn't get it right the first time around. Will people be willing to risk their phones to try something new?
These questions need to be answered & any good dev would of course think of these things.
Also, you base so much on visual appearances, what have you used of the ROM that you base these claims that the ROMs are the same on? Have you seen how they work on your device?
When you are talking of the Sense 4.0 ROMs I really wonder how much of a visual difference you expect to see in Sense? Why not download a new skin? It will feel like a new ROM experience if appearance is all that counts.
These are my honest opinions & being a noob, I hope that these opinions don't offend anyone.
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Im as cool as a cucumber all the time anyway lol
I'm using sense 4 as an example as many have been released in past 2-3 weeks.
I would just like to see more original roms on here
We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?
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We have GB, ICS, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5, Sense 3.6, Sense 4.0, MIUI, AOSP, CM... Right now the devs are working with what bases they have available to them. When JB and KLP get dropped then I'm sure those will make their way here as well, but by then you'll probably have moved on to a newer device anyways.
As was already mentioned, the popular roms stay at the top so the sorting is done automatically. If people don't like a rom it will fall back in the page count and be long forgotten!
If you want, I can make a port of cupcake for you. How different would that be!?
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If you can get it working on newest firmware then yes
Random things like this is what I'd like to see, even a android Linux combo, being able to install android and Linux apps to one Rom would be amazing,
I liked the times when we had things like the HQ Camera mod come out, if smalled devs could work together on projects like that then the Dev section would be filled with newer stuff
I'm not trying to attack devs, just try to see my point, one rom doesn't stand out from another any more
How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.
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How come nobody is allowed to state their opinion on xda without somebody getting mad? I agree most of the roms are the same. And it my opinion, none of them seem to work right. Bit again, someone will disagree and tattle tail on me to a moderator or say I need to be kicked off because they disagree with my opinion. No one ever said anyone else had to agree with anyone's opinion. If you don't agree then state your opinion and step aside. Nobody needs you spamming threads with **** like "you need to be kicked off" cause someone has an opinion. The OP did not say anything about race religion creed or sexual orientation therefore he can rightfully say whatever else he wants. Grow up. If you don't like it then you have every right to go somewhere else.
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Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
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kgs1992 said:
Our community is awesome only because of devs, who work really hard for us.. if they leave, our sensation forum will die down. Such threads would push devs away & that's the only reason I reported this. Also, I didn't scream ban! I just wanted the mod to take a look. I am sorry if this was wrong but I only had the best interest of the community in mind..
Also, I am sorry for this OT. I just wanted to explain what I thought, if anyone cares that is.
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Yeah I understand what your saying, everyone has an opinion and I searched and couldn't find anywhere I could express it, so created this thread
I gotta agree. Aside from CM9/MIUI/AOKP/Paranoid Android, most Sense 3.6/Sense 4.0 ROMs are the same.

Stability

hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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Why not just search, read or test for yourself? This question has been asked too many times by lazy people and is not funny any more :banghead:
jebinio said:
hi, what rom is the most stable (daily use) for HTC Desire S?
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I am going to be the good cop this time, ok Simon?
@ jebinio
If you are not worried about using ginger bread, then I would vote for Endymion. This thing is more stable and rock solid than most stock roms on any device. As a matter of fact, I'm still on 3.4 (latest is 3.5) and I swear I won't flash my d.s with anything else.
bronx said:
I am going to be the good cop this time, ok Simon?
@ jebinio
If you are not worried about using ginger bread, then I would vote for Endymion. This thing is more stable and rock solid than most stock roms on any device. As a matter of fact, I'm still on 3.4 (latest is 3.5) and I swear I won't flash my d.s with anything else.
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Absolutely fine mate. The OP should know better as he has been a member of the forum for long than me. However, out of 118 post he has started 24 new threads - none of which seem to have a single benefit to the community as a whole.
Just a quick list of some of the recent 'Best ROM' threads;-
[Q] Best Non Sense ROM
Best ROM for HD gaming
Stable ICS/JB ROMs?
Desire s fully working roms
JB ROM with HTC Sense?
[Q] What Rom is Smooth For Desire S.
Andromadus vs. Jellytime vs. PACman vs. Pure CM10
Best jelly bean radio ?
Best ICS ROM ?
Which is the most stable Jelly Bean Rom any idea?
And that is ONLY the ones marked with November - and if anyone ever frequents the top-level General or Q&A forums then they will know that "Which is the best ROM" threads are locked with 100% efficiency by the moderators as being against the rules of XDA.
The OP's question has been answered regularly by the good people hanging around here on multiple occasions and it is getting beyond a joke that people just can't be bothered to read or search. They take absolutely zero part in contributing to XDA as a whole and never attempt to help anybody else, but then feel they have the right to just come on and post whatever questions they want answered then and there because they are too lazy or impatient to actually look for themselves and they consistently post in the wrong part of the forum - General for a question?
I know I can sometimes be a grumpy sod, but I really do feel that our Moderators should start taking a slightly more pro-active stance with regards to the forums the are in charge of - maybe if people started finding their pointless/redundant threads deleted or locked they would actually start to follow the Rules of XDA and help themselves. The amount of times I find myself pointing out;-
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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is simply incredible.
I would never call you a grumpy old sod, and to be honest I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable person on here.however I do get your point even I'm beginning to think twice about putting in my tuppence worth in these threads, they pop up daily yet if most people just scrolled down half a dozen threads they would find an identical question.
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
15 seconds typing into the search engine or hours of your time plus mins or more of others to reply of course I'm exaggerating but time is the one thing you can't buy save every ones and use the search engine. I'm using viper saga 1.0 great rom seems very stable for ics
It's also very fast compared to my old one which mind you wasn't slow either. Very easy install process for apps and addons there included in the rom and you choose what to install first run. But other than that your best bet is to get some of the older more promanant ROMs, as there will be allot more known about certain problems.
Hope this helps
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Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983604
Well... Seems to me, that op doesn't give a damn anyway, so...
Hey
I've just been opened
And this is crazy
OP've lost his interest
So close/trash me maybe?

Most stable aosp Rom?

I've used kingsbeat jb Rom, It always got stuck on the lockscreen. The touchscreen would work but it wouldn't unlock.. I'm using viper right now but really like the speed and other features of aosp.. any suggestions?
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Cm10 since most other roms use it as a base
IN BEFORE THE LOCK
THESE ARE NOT allowed
I'm just going to save myself a bunch of typing and quote redpoint
redpoint73 said:
Q's go in the "Q&A" subforum.
And "Best ROM" threads are frowned upon here. There is no good answer to this question, as everyone has different preferences and needs. Further, suggesting one ROM over another, is an insult to the devs, as it suggests that the other ROMs are somehow inferior (when its largely a matter of personal taste). These discussions often devolve into a popularity contest. And just because a ROM is popular, does not mean it will be the best for you.
Just look through the ROMs, pick a few to flash (with the features you want), and see what you like best.
The ROM threads usually indicate very clearly what works, and what doesn't. If not in the top post, just reading through the last few pages of the more recent responses to that thread will often answer your questions.
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