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Does Droid Bionic boot animation possible for us???

Can we use this boot animation...?? This is the most suoerb animation I have seen till now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238399
HERE IS VIDEO
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp8pTy4RVMU&feature=player_embedded

Cool... Already downloaded the file and..Yes It can be run on our boot..but need to be modified..I will Try and post it when I suceed...

blaqkarma said:
Cool... Already downloaded the file and..Yes It can be run on our boot..but need to be modified..I will Try and post it when I suceed...
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means can't we use it directly? I really like that animation alot. I will wait for ur modified file...

Just found this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxY7mRDkwgw
Can some port the HTC geek boot animation and the JIP like lockscreen for i9003??

What a lockscreen.wish someone can port it. .
Sent from my GT-I9003 using Tapatalk

@Vishal at first I tried editing the original file..and then when I got pissed of I just rename the original file to ( sanim.zip ) the put it in /system/media and then rebooted the Phone and It works hehehe..
INSTRUCTIONS:
1.Download the original file...download bootanimation.zip here
2.rename to sanim.zip
3.put in /system/media/
4.reboot and there u go...

blaqkarma said:
@Vishal at first I tried editing the original file..and then when I got pissed of I just rename the original file to ( sanim.zip ) the put it in /system/media and then rebooted the Phone and It works hehehe..
INSTRUCTIONS:
1.Download the original file...download bootanimation.zip here
2.rename to sanim.zip
3.put in /system/media/
4.reboot and there u go...
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i already tried this method. It worked for me but I realised that its frames/seconds is only 15. It lags while playing bootanimation. Can u increase frames/second?

[i9001][MOD]Custom Bootanimation

I dont have this phone,try at your own risk!
as the title says,this mod will enable u to easily customize bootscreen !
I Have Attached The Custom Booting.zip File
Which Contain 2 files
1) bootanimation
2) samsungani
NOTE : Files Should Be Executable
ie. Permission should be rwxr_xr_x (r=read, w=write, x= executable)
These Two Files Have to be copied to /system/bin With Root Explorer Or Any Thing Like That
The Next File I am Attaching Is sanim.zip
sanim.zip file must be copied To /system/media
delete /system/media/shutdown.qmg /system/media/bootanimation.qmg and /system/media/bootanimationloop.qmg.
The sanim contains the PNG files Which Can be edited As your will
Downloads
Custom Booting
Sanim.zip
Credits:vivekkalady

I put all files where you said and changed permissions accordingly, the phone boots alright, but after the samsung- and the following galaxy s plus gt....-screens
there is just a black screen till boot is complete.

Aurellion said:
I put all files where you said and changed permissions accordingly, the phone boots alright, but after the samsung- and the following galaxy s plus gt....-screens
there is just a black screen till boot is complete.
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really strange............will see if anything can be done
r u sure u didint forget sanim.zip?

Aurellion said:
I put all files where you said and changed permissions accordingly, the phone boots alright, but after the samsung- and the following galaxy s plus gt....-screens
there is just a black screen till boot is complete.
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exactly the same for me..
@sakindia123: I tried a custom boot animation (renamed to sanim.zip) which didn't work. But I also tried the original sanim.zip which also doesn't seem to work

sakindia123 said:
really strange............will see if anything can be done
r u sure u didint forget sanim.zip?
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Yeah, just double checked everything, doesn't work

Aurellion said:
Yeah, just double checked everything, doesn't work
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what is the samsungani doing in your version (I know what it's doing but I wanna have an answer for your system ).

manveru0 said:
what is the samsungani doing in your version (I know what it's doing but I wanna have an answer for your system ).
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I'm not sure what you mean, so I uploaded my samsungani:
https://rapidshare.com/files/3183414437/samsungani

Aurellion said:
I'm not sure what you mean, so I uploaded my samsungani:
https://rapidshare.com/files/3183414437/samsungani
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ooops, sorry my mistake. My question was for Sakindia. I was wondering because he obviously didn't change the init.rc which would trigger the bootanimation binary.
EDIT: Nevermind. Found it out by looking at the files. The samsungani Sakindia uploaded does trigger the bootanimation binary, so no need to do it in the init.rc

manveru0 said:
ooops, sorry my mistake. My question was for Sakindia. I was wondering because he obviously didn't change the init.rc which would trigger the bootanimation binary.
EDIT: Nevermind. Found it out by looking at the files. The samsungani Sakindia uploaded does trigger the bootanimation binary, so no need to do it in the init.rc
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yup,that's y ramdisk wasnt needed
can u investigate the matter manveru0?

sakindia123 said:
yup,that's y ramdisk wasnt needed
can u investigate the matter manveru0?
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well I've tested my own version of it (but with modded init.rc) and I was facing the same issue as the other users did with your version. Where did you get the bootanimation binary from? I think that binary may cause the issue. Anyway I have to take a deeper look at what happens when starting the bootanimation.

The question....is it can be use now?
GT-I9001 Adrenaline Shot v13 - powered by Instanet free edition : )

pyronia said:
The question....is it can be use now?
GT-I9001 Adrenaline Shot v13 - powered by Instanet free edition : )
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No it's not unfortunately

broodplank1337 said:
No it's not unfortunately
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delete /system/media/shutdown.qmg /system/media/bootanimation.qmg and /system/media/bootanimationloop.qmg. It should work afterwards. See also the latest FeaMod Release as the FeaCore kernel now supports bootanimation.zip (I've changed the init.rc and took a different bootanimation binary):
http://www.mediafire.com/?38j6nnnztki7wdj

manveru0 said:
delete /system/media/shutdown.qmg /system/media/bootanimation.qmg and /system/media/bootanimationloop.qmg. It should work afterwards. See also the latest FeaMod Release as the FeaCore kernel now supports bootanimation.zip (I've changed the init.rc and took a different bootanimation binary):
http://www.mediafire.com/?38j6nnnztki7wdj
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Sounds great! Gonna try it now
Edit: Works! Good work! Finally someone who managed it to make a custom boot ani for i9001

broodplank1337 said:
Sounds great! Gonna try it now
Edit: Works! Good work! Finally someone who managed it to make a custom boot ani for i9001
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u can pickup any existing one.......sample is attached

sakindia123 said:
u can pickup any existing one.......sample is attached
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What file do I replace for a new one? because i can't find any bootanimation in /system/media

broodplank1337 said:
What file do I replace for a new one? because i can't find any bootanimation in /system/media
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u dont have to replace...just add it there

sakindia123 said:
u dont have to replace...just add it there
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Tried placing it there and set permissions but without success.
Do i need to use ADB Push for this?

broodplank1337 said:
Tried placing it there and set permissions but without success.
Do i need to use ADB Push for this?
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no need................did u delete specified files?

sakindia123 said:
no need................did u delete specified files?
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Totally works now, i used the kernel posted here, didn't work with that but it works with 1.3.1 feamod (and the 2 files in system/bin ofc)
thnx a bunch guys

[MOD][bootanim] ICS-like boot animation (requires my 20120105 kernel or better)

I put it in the title, and I'll put it here again because I KNOW someone will ask (or do worse)
THIS BOOT ANIMATION WILL ONLY WORK ON THE P6210 WITH KERNELS THAT SUPPORT BOOT ANIMATIONS. THAT CURRENTLY ONLY INCLUDES MY KERNEL FOR THE P6210 WITH A VERSION GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO 20120105.
I wonder how many people will ignore that and install it on the 20120102 version (which, honestly, will amuse me quite a bit as it'll have an interesting result.)
Credit where credit is due: The actual boot animation was modified from the animation provided in UnNamed 1.x for the AT&T SGSII by gtg465x. All I did was rotate all the images, tweak the dimensions of the control file, and stick it into a recovery installable update.zip file.
How to install:
Download it. Put it on your device. Boot into recovery and install .zip file from sdcard (or internal sdcard if you put it on the microSD.)
This is completely unsupported... it's only meant as a sample and proof of concept for the boot anims.
This post has a link to a youtube showing the boot anim: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21101682&postcount=8
Take care
Gary

Rock On dude! can someone post a teaser video! thanks garyd!!
dont know if this also removes boot up sound,
in case anyone cant figure it out it should be /system/etc/poweron.wav, you can play the .wav first to verify, if so rather than delete it just rename to backuppoweron.wav
cheers!

by the way i found a way how to change the bootanimation on my galaxy mini :
1. delete the 'bootanimation' located in /system/bin (better to backup)
2. then copy and rename 'samsungani' to 'bootanimation'
3. then delete (backup) the bootani.qmg located in /system/media
4. copy the bootanimation.zip file to /system/media
and, i tried this on my gtab 7+ p6200.
but on step 3, in /system/media there are bootsamsung.qmg and bootsamsungloop.qmg. i don't know which file to delete/replace.
is the bootsamsungloop.qmg ?
can someone help me?

how come that Gtab7+ doesn't support the bootanimation ? if we got samsung bootanimation means it can support any bootanim i guess. or whatcha you think ?

denkext said:
by the way i found a way how to change the bootanimation on my galaxy mini :
1. delete the 'bootanimation' located in /system/bin (better to backup)
2. then copy and rename 'samsungani' to 'bootanimation'
3. then delete (backup) the bootani.qmg located in /system/media
4. copy the bootanimation.zip file to /system/media
and, i tried this on my gtab 7+ p6200.
but on step 3, in /system/media there are bootsamsung.qmg and bootsamsungloop.qmg. i don't know which file to delete/replace.
is the bootsamsungloop.qmg ?
can someone help me?
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ive tried this method with renaming both of these files, bootanimation finishes and lockscreen/homescreen come up but bootanimation is frozen stuck covering the top 60% of screen.

I've got this already up and going on my tab with the stock ICS boot animation. Did it late last night. Didn't use this boot animation, modified my own from my galaxy s2.
I'll post a video today on how it looks. Much better than stock.
Thanks Gary.
Sent from my ICS powered Galaxy S2

Requires De-Odexed firmware?

ICS Boot Animation Video

very nice.. looking good. thanks for the vid.

AnarkiZzz said:
Requires De-Odexed firmware?
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Eh I wouldn't think so. Its only placing a file in /system/media. Not touching any other files.
As long as you have the kernel flashed you should be good to go.
Sent from my ICS'd themed Galaxy Tab 7+

AnarkiZzz said:
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no, doesn't require deodex

Mute
Is there any way that the boot animation could be silent? The noise is disruptive in public settings if I get a random reboot, so I'm told, lol

arwilson529 said:
Is there any way that the boot animation could be silent? The noise is disruptive in public settings if I get a random reboot, so I'm told, lol
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Normally there is a power on audio file in /system/media/audio/ui but I can't see one.
Power off is in there though
EDIT found it!
/etc/1power_on.ogg
Delete that and bye bye boot up sound

Same here. its system/etc/1_poweron.ogg just renamed mine with root explorer.

This mod is only a "proof of concept" to demonstrate the changing of the boot animation using the kernel I posted in another thread. The boot sound is unrelated to the boot animation from the kernel point of view. Normally, the boot animation and/or sound would be changed by firmware developers.

k0sh said:
how come that Gtab7+ doesn't support the bootanimation ? if we got samsung bootanimation means it can support any bootanim i guess. or whatcha you think ?
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Because Samsung insists on using their own wacky bootanimation binary and format.
So you need to either:
1) Replace the binary (manual effort, no "fallback" if no bootanim is present)
2) Add a script to the kernel initramfs that uses "standard" bootanim support if you have one present, and Samsung's as a fallback.
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Entropy512 said:
2) Add a script to the kernel initramfs that uses "standard" bootanim support if you have one present, and Samsung's as a fallback.
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...and I shamelessly copied the script from Entropy512's work on the i777 to do just this for the 7+.

Is there anyway to get back to the stock animation from this?

nrage23 said:
Is there anyway to get back to the stock animation from this?
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You can simply delete the bootanimation.zip file in system/etc/media, I assume?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium

Thanks!
crunchie-uk said:
Normally there is a power on audio file in /system/media/audio/ui but I can't see one.
Power off is in there though
EDIT found it!
/etc/1power_on.ogg
Delete that and bye bye boot up sound
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Thank ya thank ya and thanks again! That's been driving me nuts.

[STOCK]Boot animation+ShutDown animation+power on sound.

Samsung galaxy note stock Bootanimation.
Now completed.
S3 bootanimation link:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706856
(POWER OFF)STOCK(Attachments)
shutdown works fine put QMG file in /system/media
bootsamsung.qmg
bootsamsungloop.qmg
The modification of dragging files into that folder are for shutdown.
LINK- ATTACHMENT
Boot animations(BOOT UP) :- (Rename zip file to bootanimation.zip and place it to system\media or data\local)
STOCK SAMSUNG -( Attachments )
stock
STOCK GALAXY NOTE -(mirrors or attachments.)
Link:- http://www.mediafire.com/?afpfdjjh33ou7
AND ICS(Ice Cream Sandwich) BOOT ANIMATION ALSO.
+++++MIRRORS++++++ -
BOOTANIMATIONS MEDIAFIRE
Power On Audio/Sound:-
Download soundfile of attachments
Then Extract it somewhere in the sdcard and place it to system/etc(using any root explorer or rooted file manager)
Stock Sound Power on.

Do not flash.
FOR
NEW LINKS MIRRORS JUST PM(PERSONAL MESSAGE) ME.

This is weird..I have PowerOn.ogg in system/etc folder and bootanimation.zip in system/media and I get no sound when the phone boots. Any idea why?

BigBolo said:
This is weird..I have PowerOn.ogg in system/etc folder and bootanimation.zip in system/media and I get no sound when the phone boots. Any idea why?
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rename PowerOn.ogg to 1_Power_on.ogg
or replace any other .ogg sound file in system/etc
or redownload poweronsound.zip and redo the process of coping and replacing

Ayush770 said:
rename PowerOn.ogg to 1_Power_on.ogg
or replace any other .ogg sound file in system/etc
or redownload poweronsound.zip and redo the process of coping and replacing
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No go.

Edit file .ogg in .wav and past it

Thanks
Good one

uninc76 said:
Edit file .ogg in .wav and past it
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Tried that as well...still no go.

Never mind it works now. I guess the dev didn't include boot sound in the rom he did an update and now it works.

BigBolo said:
Never mind it works now. I guess the dev didn't include boot sound in the rom he did an update and now it works.
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soo its your rom problem.

Euhm where to put bootanimation ics zip?

papasieg said:
Euhm where to put bootanimation ics zip?
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Just rename it to bootanimation.zip and place it to system/media or data/local
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

hey, the animations are great but the problem is the bootsamsungloop.qmg and bootsamsung.qmg appears small on my galaxy note. any ideas why? or does anyone have the correct size?
EDIT: nevermind i found the problem.. i'm only changing the files inside the system/media folder, didn't think you also should change the one inside data/local haha! thanks!

cptnappy said:
hey, the animations are great but the problem is the bootsamsungloop.qmg and bootsamsung.qmg appears small on my galaxy note. any ideas why? or does anyone have the correct size?
EDIT: nevermind i found the problem.. i'm only changing the files inside the system/media folder, didn't think you also should change the one inside data/local haha! thanks!
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Any other problem that you have encounter.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

Ayush770 said:
Any other problem that you have encounter.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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probably just the animation being slow (using the newbootanimation.zip)

cptnappy said:
probably just the animation being slow (using the newbootanimation.zip)
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because It is fitted with sound file.
Edit:BTW I'll try to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

Ayush770 said:
because It is fitted with sound file.
Edit:BTW I'll try to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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you are awesome sir
EDIT: nevermind, i figured it out. i tried deleting the bootanimation.zip and just copied the 2 .qmg files and the animation went pretty fast like normal. thank again for the stock animations! now will look for the S3 version of the boot animation. the shutdown's fine but the boot animation is all fuzzed up (saw a thread with the stock .qmg files of the s3).

links and animations fixed and updated.

Ayush770 said:
Just rename it to bootanimation.zip and place it to system/media or data/local
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
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Guys, is this boot animation exactly the same from Galaxy Nexus? For example, it will fit completely inside Galaxy Note screen?
And if I use this file, later I can change again to another file without any problems, right? For example, to the boot animation ZIP file from Jelly Bean.

Cool!! Finally the stock Samsung logo boot animation.
Is it possible to get a higher resolution??
Thanks mate!

Change bootanimation on ICS?

Is there any way to change boot animation on Samsung Galaxy R ICS 4.0.4? I tried something i found here on forum and now i dont have any boot animation and i wanted a ICS stock animation :crying:

Not stock ICS, but this is greatest boot animation I saw so far, and SGS3 shut down animation, so first U must be rooted to do this or any system modification...
Those are just files in .rar archive, so not for flashing with CWM or something similar. Just decompress-copy-paste files in their respectiv system folders.
First unpack, now Boot archive contains two files and you should place them in SYSTEM/MEDIA folder, second one is shut down animation and place this file in
SYSTEM/MEDIA/VIDEO/SHUTDOWN folder, use root explorer (paid but great), or solid explorer (free) or any other explorer with root permissions :victory:

Liked the shut down animation very much.
Is there any other boot animation available?
I'm already having the boot animation provided here as i'm in Neo Rom v3. Need a change
Sent from my Galaxy Royal using xda developers app

CaptainKidd said:
Liked the shut down animation very much.
Is there any other boot animation available?
I'm already having the boot animation provided here as i'm in Neo Rom v3. Need a change
Sent from my Galaxy Royal using xda developers app
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Only original one, as it was on GB, others .qmg animations have other models names and numbers so not very useful
If U find any please upload

nedooo said:
Not stock ICS, but this is greatest boot animation I saw so far, and SGS3 shut down animation, so first U must be rooted to do this or any system modification...
Those are just files in .rar archive, so not for flashing with CWM or something similar. Just decompress-copy-paste files in their respectiv system folders.
First unpack, now Boot archive contains two files and you should place them in SYSTEM/MEDIA folder, second one is shut down animation and place this file in
SYSTEM/MEDIA/VIDEO/SHUTDOWN folder, use root explorer (paid but great), or solid explorer (free) or any other explorer with root permissions :victory:
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nedooo said:
Only original one, as it was on GB, others .qmg animations have other models names and numbers so not very useful
If U find any please upload
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Man that was seriously awesome.. great one..but showing S sign while booting.. bt who cares..great one buddy

Lol i wont like that my phone shows the s sign on boot!:thumbdown:
Im proud of my R!!
Sent from my Big R 6825Antutu

It's not that obvious "S", more like a shadow, still It's my favorite

Thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434034 says to refer link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053250
where many boot animations are present (many of the mediafire links are not working). This thread is under Samsung Fascinate so afraid of flashing via CWM. So I'm creating and editing sanim files manually. Succeeded in creating in boot animations :good: but need to see how to change boot sound.
Will upload if anyone needs.

Yes, pls upload with screenshots. Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9103 using xda app-developers app

nedooo said:
Not stock ICS, but this is greatest boot animation I saw so far, and SGS3 shut down animation, so first U must be rooted to do this or any system modification...
Those are just files in .rar archive, so not for flashing with CWM or something similar. Just decompress-copy-paste files in their respectiv system folders.
First unpack, now Boot archive contains two files and you should place them in SYSTEM/MEDIA folder, second one is shut down animation and place this file in
SYSTEM/MEDIA/VIDEO/SHUTDOWN folder, use root explorer (paid but great), or solid explorer (free) or any other explorer with root permissions :victory:
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Thanks, you saved my day

Thank You. S boot animation is nice but i got now 1,2 MB free memory on rom. I think safe is use stock one :good:

The Great Boot Animation for ICS
Hey Guys,
Happy to announce that I have successfully installed the Boot animation in Angeek ROM. Its a great Boot Animation with colourfull Android.
Here is the procedure for Flashing the boot animation for the Rom:
1) Download the Attached file & Just put it into Sdcard.
2) Now go to -> system/media & change bootanimation.zip to oldbootanimation.zip
3) Copy the downloaded bootanimation.zip to system/media
4) Give rights to the file of -rw--r--r
5) reboot your Phone.
But for safely purpose, take the backup first.
Thanks & have a nice weekend buddies.
Pls press Thanks if you like this boot animation.

kataria.vikesh said:
Hey Guys,
Happy to announce that I have successfully installed the Boot animation in Angeek ROM as well. Its a great Boot Animation with colourfull Android.
Here is the procedure for Flashing the boot animation for the Rom:
1) Download the Attached file & Just put it into Sdcard.
2) Now go to -> system/media & change bootanimation.zip to oldbootanimation.zip
3) Copy the downloaded bootanimation.zip to system/media
4) Give rights to the file of -rw--r--r
5) reboot your Phone.
But for safely purpose, take the backup first.
Thanks & have a nice weekend buddies.
Pls press Thanks if you like this boot animation.
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Successfully changed the bootanimatiom :thumbup:
Hit Thanks If I Helped You

Kartik pat said:
Successfully changed the bootanimatiom :thumbup:
Hit Thanks If I Helped You
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hows you feeling buddy..?? is it good bootanimation..??

kataria.vikesh said:
hows you feeling buddy..?? is it good bootanimation..??
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Yeah its good!!

If u r in Angeek's ROM, u can try any of these custom boot animation. Download the CWM zip and flash it
Boot Animation

selva.simple said:
If u r in Angeek's ROM, u can try any of these custom boot animation. Download the CWM zip and flash it
Boot Animation
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yeahhh.. I know this link buddy bt few of them are not working & I had already changed the boot animation from this link bt have you checked my uploaded animation..?? I have seen this in XDA b4 bt couldn't update this one till now. now we have it. If you can then pls add this one in your next SENSATIONAL MAZEL ROM..? Hows the name..??

Procedure for changing Bootanimation in any ROM
Hi Friends,
Below is the procedure for changing the Boot animation in any ICS ROM. But it has one limitation. You have to be in the below attached ardatdat 4.1 kernel to have the Boot animation working. Thanks to wanamsmile
Make a backup of bootsamsung.qmg and bootsamsungloop.qmg from /system/media and remove them
Now make a backup of samsungani and bootanimation from /system/bin
Download the attached samsungani and bootanimation (Unzip the package) and paste it into /system/bin. It will overwrite the existing files
You can get any of the custom bootanimation file. The name shud be bootanimation.zip. One custom bootanimation file is given here
Place the file in /system/media
Download the attached ardatdat 4.1 (modified) and place it in ur sdcard
Reboot to CWM and flash the kernel
Reboot the mobile. Now u will have new custom bootanimation

Is it possible to do it with ardatdat's 4.2 b6 kernel?
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josjator said:
Is it possible to do it with ardatdat's 4.2 b6 kernel?
Sent from my GT-I9103 using xda app-developers app
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Trying on it buddy. Currently getting boot loop. Will let u know if it works