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An unexpected type of shootout between completely different products, but fun to read anyways. Not prefect since it is done on paper specs and not actual hardware:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38491/lg-optimus-vs-nintendo-3ds
Bad review , author has no idea what he is talking about , this phone does not have 4 gigs of RAM. It has 8 gigs of internal storage SSD and 512 MB of RAM.
Winner: LG Optimus 3D1GHz Dual-Core OMAP4, 4GB RAM, SGX540 GPU (LP DDR2)loser: Nintendo 3DS2x 266MHz ARM11 processors, 64MB RAM, PICA200 GPU
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It also plays host to a whopping 4GB of RAM which should be plenty for coping with all of the phone's basic functions as well as the 3D visuals
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Does this device really have the SGX540? The same GPU as the Galaxy S?
If it does, wouldn't that mean that there really won't be much improvement over the Galaxy S for single-threaded applications(seeing as, besides the 3D-ness and extra core, the specs are quite similar)? Are most Android apps/games/emulators/N64oid single-threaded?
mangelok said:
Does this device really have the SGX540? The same GPU as the Galaxy S?
If it does, wouldn't that mean that there really won't be much improvement over the Galaxy S for single-threaded applications(seeing as, besides the 3D-ness and extra core, the specs are quite similar)? Are most Android apps/games/emulators/N64oid single-threaded?
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The omap 4 is paired with an overclocked version of the sgx. If you check a thread on smartphonebenchmarks.com it will show the comparisons for the 2 different phones. As of now the overclocked version doesn't make a big difference until newer games are released that require more power. It gives the phone more life in terms of hardware . I would link but my g1 doesn't have the ram to save the state my apps are in. The g1 requires a full restart of apps which is inconvenient.
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Okay so our phones apparently have dual channel ram honestly. Idk what this means for us Ik we have 512mb does this mean 2 512mb sticks actually adding up to 1gig or does it mean 2 256mb sharing processes also what does it do please any answers would be nice I moved from the sensation and I like this phone it seems faster than it or the evo 3d
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Okay so our phones apparently have dual channel ram honestly. Idk what this means for us Ik we have 512mb does this mean 2 512mb sticks actually adding up to 1gig or does it mean 2 256mb sharing processes also what does it do please any answers would be nice I moved from the sensation and I like this phone it seems faster than it or the evo 3d
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Dual channel increases the max bandwidth of memory by using 2 channels instead of one, we probably have 2 256 mb chips, each one with his own channel.
It should help in bandwidth intensive scenarios (gaming for example)
thanks simple and exactly what I wanted
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V1P3R_BR4Z1L14N said:
Dual channel increases the max bandwidth of memory by using 2 channels instead of one, we probably have 2 256 mb chips, each one with his own channel.
It should help in bandwidth intensive scenarios (gaming for example)
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should help but in some cases is useless, it's better to have just one ram unit
alankstiyo said:
should help but in some cases is useless, it's better to have just one ram unit
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tell that to tegra 2
btw, how more and better can be worse?
alankstiyo said:
should help but in some cases is useless, it's better to have just one ram unit
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Do you have any link that supports that or is it from your personal experience?
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Do you have any link that supports that or is it from your personal experience?
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Im an ITT graduate for computer forensics. In this age part of my learning was to forensically examine all smartphones as well since they are just as capable in hiding data as computers are. Dual channel means 2 channels of memory as opposed to one to increase bandwidth just as mentioned above. Part of the reason computers are getting faster and gaming smoother is because of increased RAM channels and video cards increasing in GPU Cores and memory lanes or channels, this applies to phones. I actually have one , LG Thrill 4G or AKA Optimus 3D and tested it with a benchmark against some of the newest devices the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 both with quad core processors and single channel RAM. My results are as follows:
Optimus 3D: 1856.4 Mbp/s
Galaxy S3: 821.66 Mbp/s
Note 2: 849.39 Mbp/s
As you can see the note and s3 have same memory architecture and practically tested the same the difference was probably in the amount of apps running in background. The LG tested more than double the speed and it only had about 270mb of free RAM at time of test as opposed to the 1300+ mb or 1.3gb or RAM free on note and galaxy. Faster RAM means more responsive gaming and smoother graphics. Now the processor of the thrill 4g is ages behind so its almost unfair to compare app launching and phone reboot to the other devices I have but even the processor difference the RAM tests speak for themselves. Devices in similar time as the Optimus wont even come close to gaming and video playback because the faster the memory the more you can process and more efficiently as well. I'm sure that there is a game or two out there that would run better on the LG than even some of today's phones its just a matter of searching and testing.
I am quite honestly puzzled at why that was the only phone with dual channel RAM, I would have expected today's quad core devices to utilize this architecture and result in much faster smoother running phones with astonishing overclocking results.
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But I have a question .. in overclocking is that damage the CPU ??? and the same question about the tempreture?? and what the overclocking actually do ?? Why did not lg overclock thier phones ??
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Im an ITT graduate for computer forensics. In this age part of my learning was to forensically examine all smartphones as well since they are just as capable in hiding data as computers are. Dual channel means 2 channels of memory as opposed to one to increase bandwidth just as mentioned above. Part of the reason computers are getting faster and gaming smoother is because of increased RAM channels and video cards increasing in GPU Cores and memory lanes or channels, this applies to phones. I actually have one , LG Thrill 4G or AKA Optimus 3D and tested it with a benchmark against some of the newest devices the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 both with quad core processors and single channel RAM. My results are as follows:
Optimus 3D: 1856.4 Mbp/s
Galaxy S3: 821.66 Mbp/s
Note 2: 849.39 Mbp/s
As you can see the note and s3 have same memory architecture and practically tested the same the difference was probably in the amount of apps running in background. The LG tested more than double the speed and it only had about 270mb of free RAM at time of test as opposed to the 1300+ mb or 1.3gb or RAM free on note and galaxy. Faster RAM means more responsive gaming and smoother graphics. Now the processor of the thrill 4g is ages behind so its almost unfair to compare app launching and phone reboot to the other devices I have but even the processor difference the RAM tests speak for themselves. Devices in similar time as the Optimus wont even come close to gaming and video playback because the faster the memory the more you can process and more efficiently as well. I'm sure that there is a game or two out there that would run better on the LG than even some of today's phones its just a matter of searching and testing.
I am quite honestly puzzled at why that was the only phone with dual channel RAM, I would have expected today's quad core devices to utilize this architecture and result in much faster smoother running phones with astonishing overclocking results.
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That is strange because the Exynos 4412 SoC used in the s3/note2 actually supports dual channel DDR2/DDR3 ram with up to 400Mhz clock rate
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That is strange because the Exynos 4412 SoC used in the s3/note2 actually supports dual channel DDR2/DDR3 ram with up to 400Mhz clock rate
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Agreed after further investigation I realized that the s3/note2 do utilize ddr2 ram...however repetitively running the ram benchmark the lg optimus 3d at minimum doubles the data throughput. ....strange...very strange...
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I have HTC HD7 and i love it . I'm planning to buy a new gaming phone. Please suggest me a gaming phone which will cost in the range Rs.10k to Rs20k (180$ to 360$) or even more than that ?
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Dear Friends
I have HTC HD7 and i love it . I'm planning to buy a new gaming phone. Please suggest me a gaming phone which will cost in the range Rs.10k to Rs20k (180$ to 360$) or even more than that ?
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Get the galaxy s3. Trust me. You will regret not getting it! In america, it has 1.5 GHz processor with 1 gig of ram. It's also quad core. Everywhere else in the world, it's 1.5 GHz with 2 gigs of ram. This one is dual core. This is currently the greatest phone available.
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Actually, the american version of the S3 has a dual-core and 2GB of RAM. The international version is the one with the quad-core and 1GB of RAM.
As for a gaming mobile, I guess the S3 would be a great choice. And there is also the Xperia Play, which is more like a real gaming cellphone and there are many games optimized for it, including PlayStation games. But I think it has a single core processor.
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Actually, the american version of the S3 has a dual-core and 2GB of RAM. The international version is the one with the quad-core and 1GB of RAM.
As for a gaming mobile, I guess the S3 would be a great choice. And there is also the Xperia Play, which is more like a real gaming cellphone and there are many games optimized for it, including PlayStation games. But I think it has a single core processor.
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I had the xperia play before this s3 and can guarentee that the s3 can play any game the xperia can if not as well, better.
Call of duty black ops zombies was released as "xperia play optimized" yet i have it on my s3 and xperia..s3 runs its so much smoother.
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Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.
u can try HTC evo 3D or SGSIII or HTC One X
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Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.
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Not true. tegra games actually make themselves play worse or with worse graphics when they detect you are not using a tegra CPU. If you trick the game into believing your processor is a tegra, then it will play with all the spoils.
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Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.
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Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy note (1) and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?
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Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy nexus and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?
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mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!
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mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!
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thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)
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thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)
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Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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thanks for the reply..Im willing to spend more but I just dont want spend money on hardware which I wont be utilizing. Id like to game on my mobile, but not dying do and dont mind if a few games dont work. Prefer gaming on my PC in any case.
Just want to confirm that all apps would work and I could run 720p videos on the pantech smoothly.
I am looking for a budget tablet in my country that can run most recent GPU/CPU intensive games fluently on low settings and I've found 3 of the most popular SoC's that are sold in tablets in my country.
Tegra 3(T33)
Intel Atom Z3745
Cortex-A9 + Mali-400/450(both with 4 cores)
Which of these SoC's could run most GPU/CPU intensive games fluently today?
You can, of course, make your own suggestions.
Its tegra only.
Intel is made for better smothness in perdormance not for graphics quality.
And malinia just fine . i am having a mali 400 with quad core and run almost all games fine.
But tegra is the best of all
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droid_god said:
Its tegra only.
Intel is made for better smothness in perdormance not for graphics quality.
And malinia just fine . i am having a mali 400 with quad core and run almost all games fine.
But tegra is the best of all
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Smoothness in performance?
Yes smoothnesa in performance a less laggy device.
Smothness in graphics means less blirs in display
Blirs are edgs of any curved object not perfectly drawn.
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Yes smoothnesa in performance a less laggy device.
Smothness in graphics means less blirs in display
Blirs are edgs of any curved object not perfectly drawn.
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Ah, well, I don't care much for graphics so I guess Intel is also decent for me.
Also, just a suggestion but check your grammar before posting.
Intel is not good. My friend have one with more powerful specs from my device but fails to run games which my device run smothley after amall twicks
Specs don't show everything.
Hmm but processor and am and gpu is all required for gaming
Yes.
So basically you should go for the tegra one
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Specs don't show everything.
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Just don´t use Intel.
Intel chipsets are powerfull but their 3D performance is pretty bad.
And developers don´t really like them because they become very fast unsupported.
Source: My Galaxy Tab with Intel SoC
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They provide full handsets for testing so choose an intel and a tegra and test these to your satisfaction and i can garentee you that you will love tegra one
It'd be a Tegra or Mali