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...about Honeycomb. And it's not like I'm an Android developer or even an addict who's flashed a hundred different ROMs on his twelve different Android devices or anything. I actually just decided two days ago that I didn't want to use the stock gTablet ROM. So I don't know what the deal is with dreaming about mobile platform releases.
None of my friends are nerdy enough to appreciate this, so I was hopin' to get some love from the xda community. Love your work, by the way.
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I dont even care about honeycomb anymore. The Froyo ROMs run extremely fast and stable. I care more about getting more games, apps, and widgets. This is the main problem with Android tablets. Not enough love in the Android market!
Point definitely taken, Mech. I really like where I'm already at with Froyo on my phone and Gtab.
Honeycomb is laggy and buggy according to reports. Froyo is stable and fast. Latest and greatest versus fast and stable. Take your pick.
Actually, Froyo was having some issues with some apps that Gingerbread does not, so I upgraded to Vegan-Tab 7.0 and haven't looked back. I don't know what Honeycomb can provide that I don't already have...
I'm going back to donut. This new fangled software is over rated
i like phone OS's. Its cool when you hold it to your ear to make a call on google voice. it gets head turns
I so feel you. Most of my dreams are about technology. At times i think there is something wrong with me. Why aren't I dreaming about lots of money or even Beautiful women? ah i mean my lovely wife who is the most beautiful girl in the whole wide world..
The major issue for me is video play back. Thats the biggest reason Im unable to leave Froyo. Then next to that is the speed. Its kind of like comparing Windows XP to Vista. As far as I can see from playing around with Honeycomb at BestBuy there is no real leap in OS. There is still so much to improve in the way of a user experience on Android. The basics are there but if you have no apps, games or widgets to install your just stairing at a wallpaper.
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I'm going back to donut. This new fangled software is over rated
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Rofl...stfu gtfo with your donut. Haha
That's funny. Donut is neither stable or latest or greatest. You're gonna kill goodintentions with that post.
Donut is perfectly stable and quite delicious. Especially when Krispy Creme is making them fresh. mmmmmmmmmmmmm....tasty. Eclair is just a fancy french donut. It just gives up at the first sign of trouble.
I'm writing off Honeycomb. There's no reason to expect it will ever go to AOSP. Google didn't want to release it because it was hacky, and they didn't want unscrupulous providers or devs trying to shoehorn it onto phones.
Ice Cream Sandwich, on the other hand, is being heralded as the merging of the two codelines. If that's the case (and we'll find out for sure within a week), there's no reason Google shouldn't put it out to AOSP. Once that's done, nobody will say two words about Honeycomb again.
So, if you're "stuck" with perfectly serviceable Froyo/GB for another four to six months, just to pull a timeframe from my nether regions, is that really such an impediment? What's in Honeycomb that's so compelling (other than support for a few tablet-specific apps)?
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The major issue for me is video play back. Thats the biggest reason Im unable to leave Froyo. Then next to that is the speed. Its kind of like comparing Windows XP to Vista. As far as I can see from playing around with Honeycomb at BestBuy there is no real leap in OS. There is still so much to improve in the way of a user experience on Android. The basics are there but if you have no apps, games or widgets to install your just stairing at a wallpaper.
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You guys should try nightly CM7 from Cyanogen which is to me stable, faster and reliable, and gives great battery life when you combine with Pershoot's kernel.
I am running nightly Cyanogen on my phone EVO and my Gtablet. Could not be more happier for the choice I have made to go with Cyanogen.
I dont see any ROM being considered usable daily if it cant play back movies well.
DJ_Steve is the man! Got that Honeycomb 3.1 running on my streak thanks to him and Hellzya! This really makes the device much sexier. The density issue is small for me since I don't have a problem reading small print, but it doesn't work for my dad at all.. luckily most web browsers support a zoom feature as that is the primary reason we have the tab. I have no questions... I'm a noob yes... but only to these boards. Not to rooting or anything like that. I love android... hell even jailbroke a few ipods. I'm just not a programmer or anything like that. If I were I wouldn't hesitate to offer help for all this beautiful android hacking.
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DJ_Steve is the man! Got that Honeycomb 3.1 running on my streak thanks to him and Hellzya! This really makes the device much sexier. The density issue is small for me since I don't have a problem reading small print, but it doesn't work for my dad at all.. luckily most web browsers support a zoom feature as that is the primary reason we have the tab. I have no questions... I'm a noob yes... but only to these boards. Not to rooting or anything like that. I love android... hell even jailbroke a few ipods. I'm just not a programmer or anything like that. If I were I wouldn't hesitate to offer help for all this beautiful android hacking.
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I have a HoneycomB theme running on my HD2 and love it. It's actually a Gingerbread/CM7 ROM and CM7 is pure excellence. Android and CM7 is heaven
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I have a HoneycomB theme running on my HD2 and love it. It's actually a Gingerbread/CM7 ROM and CM7 is pure excellence. Android and CM7 is heaven
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I have CM7 on my Optimus v. I LOVE THIS THING. It's made everything about this phone, especially the battery life, better. Rooting is fun. lol. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKK OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUTTTTTTT!!!
HoneyComb is awesome!!!!
Yeah,honeycomb is awesome.Only problem is that Google decided to become [email protected]*ckers on the matter and don't release the damn source code so that it could be ported to phones.Yes,Ice Cream Sandwich will have Honeycomb's features and is near to be released,but is it the spirit of XDA to wait for official stuff?Nah,I don't think so.
Come on Google,Android is supposed to be open.I don't want to buy a tablet.Not yet at least,I don't like the Tegra 2(The Exynos on my Galaxy S II makes Tegra 2 devices look like cheap toys,that's why ).And when the Tegra 3 will be out,Ice Cream Sandwich will be out too.
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Yeah,honeycomb is awesome.Only problem is that Google decided to become [email protected]*ckers on the matter and don't release the damn source code so that it could be ported to phones.Yes,Ice Cream Sandwich will have Honeycomb's features and is near to be released,but is it the spirit of XDA to wait for official stuff?Nah,I don't think so.
Come on Google,Android is supposed to be open.I don't want to buy a tablet.Not yet at least,I don't like the Tegra 2(The Exynos on my Galaxy S II makes Tegra 2 devices look like cheap toys,that's why ).And when the Tegra 3 will be out,Ice Cream Sandwich will be out too.
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Why wait? Have some HC goodness with a GB-CM7 HC themed ROM.
I love the way youtube looks on HC. I just wish more apps worked on it. I many of my favorite apps crash on me in HC, but they aren't things I can't live without. Besides, whatever doesn't run there typically does on the phone so I still get my apps one way or another. One day we will have android installed in our brains and I will have to root myself.
I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
Face unlock?
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Face unlock?
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Face unlock is not really useful at all. I think most people will just stick with other methods like PIN lock instead.
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I wrote this after reading Sony's developer blog about the pros and cons of ICS and reflecting on my personal experience with several ICS ROMs on my Sensation. What I've come to realize is that ICS lacks the stability of GB and many things don't work. As Sony has pointed out, there is a huge structure difference between the 2 versions of Androids, and ICS is the more resource intensive one. Consistently, my battery on ICS is always poorer than on GB, including on idle. What really bugs me is that many basic functions such as video hardware acceleration malfunctions, my videos now become choppy and looks weird. If you manage to get your hands on a HTC One X, you can try watching a youtube HD 1080 mp4 on it and see how blurry the video rendering has become. At the same time, on ARHD ROM, there is the problem with wifi auto turning on, some sound problems as well.
All in all, this reminds me of the public outcry when iOS 5 was released and it was full of bugs. I am fully aware that ICS is a major update, thus bugs are inevitable, but I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
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I feel the exact same way as you about ics vs its predecessors... I currently use a optimus 2x handset and came from a se x10i. I always viewed sony as a bit behind the rest when it came to software/hardware releases, but after using the two handsets mentioned above, I now realise that se just spent a bit more time to release a better all round experience for their customers.
I have always run cm7 on them both and been happy, now ics is out I have been trying it out... and I am sadly very unhappy with it. I know that rom development takes time. so I used a friends stock nexus s for a few days, and its was even worse due to lack of root among other things. I will always stick with android, but at the moment ics is far from anything I would like to use.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with you. You probably have to wait until CM9 becomes official.
hmmm, not sure about other phone makers. My experience with custom rom ics is good. Undeniable when I first flashed the early version of ICS custom rom, it gives me nightmare with many things not working. But after the great custom rom developer put their priceless efforts to solve the issues, it is quite stable for the latest build right now. Haven't face any frustrating issues using it during working days or weekends.
ics on evo is getting better and better as each day passes. it started out super buggy but getting stable. still prefer gb tho
I have no problem with but a few apps that aren't compatible which makes my tablet reboot.
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I can't help feeling that ICS is not polished enough, or at least it needs some major public testing before officially released. I don't think there were as much problems of upgrading from Froyo to Gingerbread.
This is just my own opinion as an end user rather than someone with programming knowledge. I haven't managed to find any functions that is exclusive to ICS that GB lacks and I also don't see much value added by upgrading to ICS. Can I anyone enlighten me on this topic? What are the practical benefits of upgrading to ICS?
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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pure ics runs fine. its fast, battery is good if not great, gb compared to the overall feeling and handling of it is a hackjob. its not about functions, of course gb can do everything that ics can, did you seriously think it'd do more? its still a phone after all and the hardware didn't change that much, but the sum is more than its parts and ics - for the first time on android - is what i would call a mature os. adoption is a nightmarish clusterfuck because manufacturers and providers alike are out there insisting to disfigure it, push fragmentation because they are lusting after revenue and your money. of course its slow now, full of bugs and looks like crap - what do you expect, they didnt simply write modular extensions as they've could, they made dead sure you won't be able to de-install it by cracking up the framework whatever the cost and stuffing their rotten bloat into the poor thing.
the practical benefits? if you own a nexus you'll experience a modern, sleek operating system that is definitively a step into the right direction. something that feels good, looks good and operates like putty in your hands. on every other system you are f****d. call it "ics" what they've dished out but you're fooling yourself. gb is probably better than that indeed. and if you're fed up with the good ole' fragmentation game all together simply do not buy sony, samsung, htc or whatever, buy nexus where android is allowed to be itself.
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Personally, I can understand what you mean, but I still prefer HTC Sense to stock Android (including ICS) as there are many features that the Galaxy Nexus lacks (Internet-pass-through and text reflow in browser). Moreover, if I want pure ICS, I can just install a custom ROM on my Sensation. I will be installing custom ROM anyway, so fragmentation is not my problem as well. My bug with ICS is this: ICS is specifically optimized for TI OMAP 4 (which is the worst SOC I can think of for my phone compared to Snapdragon S3 or Samsung Exynos) and currently all of my devices running ICS (HTC Sensation, HTC One X, ASUS Transformer Prime) have video rendering problem when hardware acceleration is on (either the videos become choppy (snapdragon S3) or blurry (Tegra 3)). No other version of Android I have used has this many problems when it was launched.
I'm about to get my new phone. And was dead set on getting the HTC One X. But as time's gone on, I'm left more and more unsure of the decision. Between the lack of ROM support which is really just a derivative of HTC's failure to foster/support the open source community in the same way that Samsung has. i.e. SGS3 already having CM9 support. On top of that, now there are things like dropped signals and what-not. I'm wondering whether or not the HOX is really going to be a sound 18 month investment that'll keep me fairly in check with the latest hardware and software developments?
get SGS3
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CM9 we have it already working fully
dropped signal on defected devices only! why isnt this clear enough!
Buy an iPhone
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CM9 we have it already working fully
dropped signal on defected devices only! why isnt this clear enough!
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Samsung isn't an option for me. It's just a brand I've never had an affinity to. Having CM9 working and having official CM support are hugely different things. Not to mention that the hardware in HTCs will never be fully supported die to the use of proprietary drivers.
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agree with hamdir..we got all the best roms up and running and got like 3 versions of cm9 which are fully working..what else do you want? and we also got a Paranoidandroid port so again what else would you want...plus windows phone 8 ports should be dropping if the rumoured Tegra 3 chips they would be using would make it easy to port so again i say what else do you want? lol
go and get yourself an s3 my friend and be happy
Think of the One X as the modern HD2 phone with the support we are getting and not even been 3 months since the phone has been released and look what we have already
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I'm about to get my new phone. And was dead set on getting the HTC One X. But as time's gone on, I'm left more and more unsure of the decision. Between the lack of ROM support which is really just a derivative of HTC's failure to foster/support the open source community in the same way that Samsung has. i.e. SGS3 already having CM9 support. On top of that, now there are things like dropped signals and what-not. I'm wondering whether or not the HOX is really going to be a sound 18 month investment that'll keep me fairly in check with the latest hardware and software developments?
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What answers do you expect in the HOX forum....
SGS3 is not without its issues too, one guy even had his phone set on fire on him. LOL
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Samsung isn't an option for me. It's just a brand I've never had an affinity to. Having CM9 working and having official CM support are hugely different things. Not to mention that the hardware in HTCs will never be fully supported die to the use of proprietary drivers.
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seriously whats up with all this proprietary talk i don't get it
we have tons of kernel devs doing wonders like Goku said and its just been three month
we just had a completely working linux 3.4 kernel written from scratch by devs and even wifi drivers are being written for scratch
lack of ROM support are you kidding me
we had a fully working CM9 in just one month from release you really think CM9 official will not come? official CM will always favor devices close to the nexus line in terms of release date
In a word, yes get the hox, I played with an siii today, screen is so dull, touch wiz is awful and from all accounts camera is better on the hox. Don't bother with roms myself as I find the hox works just about perfect on stock.
Do it get the hox!
Agree I was actually thinking about switching until I tried S3... The HOX is indeed the best.
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Agree I was actually thinking about switching until I tried S3... The HOX is indeed the best.
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I wouldn't say 'the best', both devices have pros and cons.
- but for what I'm after, beautiful phone, feels premium, awesome screen, OTA updates and dedicated nvidia T3 optimized games, the HOX is definitely the better option for me as I don't require removable battery or sd card slot.
But for me, the screen alone is sooo much better on the HOX, and the screen is always the most important spec of any large touch screen phone.
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I wouldn't say 'the best', both devices have pros and cons.
- but for what I'm after, beautiful phone, feels premium, awesome screen, OTA updates and dedicated nvidia T3 optimized games, the HOX is definitely the better option for me as I don't require removable battery or sd card slot.
But for me, the screen alone is sooo much better on the HOX, and the screen is always the most important spec of any large touch screen phone.
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Yes, or just like I said, the best. ;-)
Oh, the HOX sounds better too.
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Yes, or just like I said, the best. ;-)
Oh, the HOX sounds better too.
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use sound enhancer mode it sounds even better..link in my sig
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seriously whats up with all this proprietary talk i don't get it
we have tons of kernel devs doing wonders like Goku said and its just been three month
we just had a completely working linux 3.4 kernel written from scratch by devs and even wifi drivers are being written for scratch
lack of ROM support are you kidding me
we had a fully working CM9 in just one month from release you really think CM9 official will not come? official CM will always favor devices close to the nexus line in terms of release date
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Yeah but on my current device. Despite having all the goodies and kernel development. The camera still doesn't work as good as the stock. There's still sound issues etc. I never read about these things with OMAP devices.
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In a word, yes get the hox, I played with an siii today, screen is so dull, touch wiz is awful and from all accounts camera is better on the hox. Don't bother with roms myself as I find the hox works just about perfect on stock.
Do it get the hox!
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Thanks for the reply. I really just want it for the hardware. But rating is over the S3 does bring a smile to my face.
See what happens to SGS3 when SGS4 coming in. HOX will get better support. I mean long term support. Look at SGS2, not much going in in the original development, ICS upgrade are rushed work. I have a SGS2 so I know the dev environment for that phone. Most dev ditch it for Galaxy Nexus or SGS3. Look at SGS1, no official ICS by Samsung lolz, which have the same spec as Nexus S, and reason is Touchwiz related. Yes SGS3 get CM9 first. Now lets see who get CM10 first. SGS2 got a late CM9 cuz of sources. Not only late on releasing sources, but Samsung messed it up. The CM9 devs almost give up(which i'm glad they didnt) and now AOSP roms are better than TW ICS on SGS2. HTC Sensation got CM9 first compared to SGS2(which was released at the same time). See what i did there? Samsung will dump their previous flagship that easy.
Sensation VS SGS2
- same time release with Gingerbread but when ICS rolled out, Samsung released a rushed firmware upgrade and rushed sources, which makes CM9 slower while Sensation got everything working easily in the early CM9 phase. SGS2 had it too, but too many things not working.
- Sensation still got true and RD devs working on, while SGS2 has many winzippers(no offense to anyone) only(see their forums, has it split between 2 development threads). cuz RD devs on SGS2 find it difficult to work with SGS2 sources. I am not sure why, but no updates for months from them, except CM9 team.
SGS3? yeah cuz they got released with ICS so they got CM9 working fast. Now see when Jelly Bean comes. SGS2 has a lot of devs in the early days, but most has ditch it half way. I admit, SGS2 is still a great device. it was a legendary that revolutionize the dual core, but Samsung wasted it when they have a new flagships.
Your choice. if you like changing phones, go for SGS3, cuz you can buy SGS4 afterwards. but if not, go for HOX, more power till the end of its life. else, buy an iphone. much more easier, peace of mind.
I think the HOX is a brilliant phone, and I've had none of the more permanent faults, like the WiFi issue..
Only fault I've had was the yellow spots, but they went away the next day and I haven't seen them since, also I think it was my own fault.. I was in a public place and I was messing about with settings when it started blaring out music, really loud, and I couldn't turn it down, so I applied pressure to the back to silence it.
Your choice in the end.
I've got both devices and will be sending back my SGS3 for a full refund.
Why?
- I prefer Sense,
- I prefer SLCD2,
- I prefer the brightness,
- I prefer the looks,
- I prefer the build,
- I prefer HTCs overall device support including OTAs and longer albeit slower releases of newer Android versions,
- I prefer the helpful guys on this side,
- I prefer the camera
- I prefer the social network integration,
- I prefer the mail app,
etc etc
Both are good phones don't get me wrong, I'll keep saying any user will be happy with either BUT:
- Removable/extendable battery
- Extendable storage
If the above 2 are important to you avoid the HOX and opt for something else, if not an issue the HOX is a good choice out of the 2 top end Android handsets presently.
I'm not going to say buy the HOX over the SGS3 or vice versa, but I do suggest you handle both then make a decision as user experience is better than me or anyone else saying x y or z about the device.
Another opened BS thread, clutter, nothing to learn, boring, pfffff...
To my opinion it's, to yours it's probably not.
Thanks again everyone. As I said, for me thi sis more about hardware purchase than software preference. I'm not too fond of Sense and really haven't played with TW enough to have an educated decision. But ultimately want rid of the bloat and want to be in charge of my own destiny. Hearing that this phone is considered a first class citizen of the community and is most likely to be the successor to the HD2 is what swings it for me. As I'm coming the Incredible S which for all of it's beauty is essentially a third class citizen. I'll look forward to picking up my HOX midweek.
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Thanks again everyone. As I said, for me thi sis more about hardware purchase than software preference. I'm not too fond of Sense and really haven't played with TW enough to have an educated decision. But ultimately want rid of the bloat and want to be in charge of my own destiny. Hearing that this phone is considered a first class citizen of the community and is most likely to be the successor to the HD2 is what swings it for me. As I'm coming the Incredible S which for all of it's beauty is essentially a third class citizen. I'll look forward to picking up my HOX midweek.
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You will never get a real successor to the HD2. I highly doubt that there will be a phone released any time soon which will be able to do so much and still have such active development after nearly three years.
The One X is good but Sense is very unnecessary for ICS in comparison to GB and Froyo. TouchWiz on the other hand is actually rather great now. I hated it for older versions of Android but it seems perfect on the SGS3. It's the little details which are really very impressive, and it's just so smooth. And to whoever said the screen on the SGS3 is dull, with all due respect are you an idiot?! It's by far the best phone screen I've used (better than the One X as well).
One more advantage of the SGS3 over the One X is just how simple it is to root. From what I've read about the One X, it's a bit troublesome to root and flash custom ROMs etc. whilst even someone like myself (never flashed a native Android phone before) can easily use Odin and flash things without really having to do too much thinking.
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You will never get a real successor to the HD2. I highly doubt that there will be a phone released any time soon which will be able to do so much and still have such active development after nearly three years.
The One X is good but Sense is very unnecessary for ICS in comparison to GB and Froyo. TouchWiz on the other hand is actually rather great now. I hated it for older versions of Android but it seems perfect on the SGS3. It's the little details which are really very impressive, and it's just so smooth. And to whoever said the screen on the SGS3 is dull, with all due respect are you an idiot?! It's by far the best phone screen I've used (better than the One X as well).
One more advantage of the SGS3 over the One X is just how simple it is to root. From what I've read about the One X, it's a bit troublesome to root and flash custom ROMs etc. whilst even someone like myself (never flashed a native Android phone before) can easily use Odin and flash things without really having to do too much thinking.
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The one x's screen is better then the s3's... It's sharper and the colours look so much better. Plus u can actually view it in sunlight.
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Am I the only person that is terribly unsatisfied with ICS and JB? I was so excited for them for so long only to be severely disappointed. They aren't as smooth, or as functional as GB. My mother owns a Nexus S and was thrilled with it when she first got it running 2.3.7 out of the box. Since then it's updated and all she does is complain about how terrible it is running 4.0.1. I thank god everyday Im not stuck with it like she is. I almost have her talked into letting me root and flash it back to 2.3.7. My distaste for these OSs is so bad I refuse to buy anything I cannot get GB on. I surely cant be the only one who cant stand the taste of either. Shame on you Google! Shame!
What are your thoughts? Love them? Hate them? On the fence?
I personally like Jelly Bean. I prefer Gingerbread.
Go get an iPhone. My GN is as smooth as butter.
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+ 1 To iPhone if she doesn't like through new os just switch. Plus if your not gonna root your android might as well have an iPhone. My ics is like warm butter can have multiple large apps open and still run games perfectly
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i dont like 4.x,2.3.7 is better
ICS and JB are so much better than Gingerbread. The difference is like going from Windows 98 to Windows 7. Everything is so much smoother and more polished. And it doesn't look old.
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3.x and earlier is unusably bad. At least 4.x is tolerable.
Jelly Bean and it's false promises of a smooth UI were pretty disappointing though.
My HTC Desire HD runs smooth as hell on both ICS and JB, and the ROMs are not even complete yet.
Do a factory reset on the Nexus S and set it up from scratch. A fresh start makes a huge difference.
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Don't people coming up with these issues ever think that maybe they have a hardware, app or install problem? Android os has only improved over time in look and feel.
It's like those basing their Android experience on Samsung Touchwiz interface...
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JB is even smooth on my ace!!!
And the ace has an old armv6 processor......
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Whoever like GB more then ICS or JB, clearly is on some meds
Especially the transition from GB to ICS for me was like jump from the 60s to 2000! ( with keeping the awsome Rock songs on the way )
I haven't tried out JB yet, even though I could easily flash CM10 onto my S2. I haven't had a single problem or complaint against ICS though.
I think that's mainly because when I first got my Xperia S, it was originally on GB and I had nothing but problems with it. This tainted my view on GB, which before that happened I used to love it.
Just waiting to officially get JB on both of my devices though.
Velcro. What a rip off!
Jelly Bean :good:
I'm starting to think the OP is just joking around with us.
Im amazed at how can people think that GB is better than ICS/JB. My phone on ICS, runs like two to three times smoother than when on GB. On JB, it runs/feels around 4 to 6 times faster and smother. Everything is so dam great on JB. And we don't even have official ICS/JB libs and kernel. Seriously. Android 4.1 is the best version of Android so far. Period.
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Im not joking. I ran ICS for a week and JB for 5 days. I was ecstatic to return to GB. It's like ICS/JB say heres your phone, but how we want it. I really dont like much at all about the newest OSs. If I wanted a phone to be like every other phone Id get an iPharce. And what I really dont get the most are some of the staple features from GB not being included in the new OSs. GB is easy to use and is packed with usable features. ICS/JB is dopey, UGLY, and not nearly as user friendly. This of course is just my opinion. As unsatisfied as I am with them, I am still an Android guy and always will be. It'll be a cold day in hell before I get an iAnything.
What phone, which ROMs?
AOKP ICS is amazing for me on my T989. Much better than any GB ROM I've used on any phone.
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Im not joking. I ran ICS for a week and JB for 5 days. I was ecstatic to return to GB. It's like ICS/JB say heres your phone, but how we want it. I really dont like much at all about the newest OSs. If I wanted a phone to be like every other phone Id get an iPharce. And what I really dont get the most are some of the staple features from GB not being included in the new OSs. GB is easy to use and is packed with usable features. ICS/JB is dopey, UGLY, and not nearly as user friendly. This of course is just my opinion. As unsatisfied as I am with them, I am still an Android guy and always will be. It'll be a cold day in hell before I get an iAnything.
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What "staple features" of GB are missing from JB? I honestly can't think of a single one. And ICS/JB being uglier and less user friendly than GB? I can't believe anyone could seriously think that's true. ICS and JB (especially the latter) look far more modern, polished and cohesive, and run so much smoother. ICS was the first Android version with a really good design in my eyes, and JB made it even better.
So, no, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
sinisin said:
Im not joking. I ran ICS for a week and JB for 5 days. I was ecstatic to return to GB. It's like ICS/JB say heres your phone, but how we want it. I really dont like much at all about the newest OSs. If I wanted a phone to be like every other phone Id get an iPharce. And what I really dont get the most are some of the staple features from GB not being included in the new OSs. GB is easy to use and is packed with usable features. ICS/JB is dopey, UGLY, and not nearly as user friendly. This of course is just my opinion. As unsatisfied as I am with them, I am still an Android guy and always will be. It'll be a cold day in hell before I get an iAnything.
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Just to know, missing features like what? And how is ICS/JB less customizable than GB?
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sinisin said:
Im not joking. I ran ICS for a week and JB for 5 days. I was ecstatic to return to GB. It's like ICS/JB say heres your phone, but how we want it. I really dont like much at all about the newest OSs. If I wanted a phone to be like every other phone Id get an iPharce. And what I really dont get the most are some of the staple features from GB not being included in the new OSs. GB is easy to use and is packed with usable features. ICS/JB is dopey, UGLY, and not nearly as user friendly. This of course is just my opinion. As unsatisfied as I am with them, I am still an Android guy and always will be. It'll be a cold day in hell before I get an iAnything.
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I get the feeling you haven't really used a stable build of ICS or JB. It makes no sense how you could draw those conclusions. What features are missing in ICS that were in GB? There are many many more APIs in ICS and JB, and it is much more capable. How does GB not look like it's from the stone ages in comparison to you?