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[Q] Needing wireless tether to work for NS4G stock rooted

I am running a stock rooted NS4G and I am not able to get wireless tether to work on my phone. I have tried Wireless Tether and I can see the network on my computer but when I try to connect its a no go (my computer just keeps connecting but never connects). I also tried Barnacle Tether but I get the same issue. I really don't-won't want to change my kernel to get this feature does any one have any ideas?
Thanks

I had to download the latest wireless tether app.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Generic
wireless_tether-2_0_5-pre7

This is stock gingerbread. The built-in wifi hotspot works out of the box (at least for now).
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Maximilian Mary said:
This is stock gingerbread. The built-in wifi hotspot works out of the box (at least for now).
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Lol no it doesn't. Enableing the hotspot disables my data connection so I use wifi tether.

hypersonicx said:
Lol no it doesn't. Enableing the hotspot disables my data connection so I use wifi tether.
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It disables the data on the phone because it ports it straight to the wifi connection. Personally, I find this provides a more reliable connection (though it is annoying that updates are suspended while you're using it).
Edit: It is not 100% pass through. Data still works on the phone, but sync is suspended.

Maximilian Mary said:
This is stock gingerbread. The built-in wifi hotspot works out of the box (at least for now).
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Yes I was able to get it working. Thanks

Is there any way to get 4G tethering and infrastructure rather than ad-hoc?
If via wireless or wifi-tether app what version are you using? 2.0.8 pre-1 or 3.0 pre-14? Or something else? The built-in tethering turns 4G off, so alternatively to wireless tether is there a way around this?

Maximilian Mary said:
This is stock gingerbread. The built-in wifi hotspot works out of the box (at least for now).
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But if you use the built in wifi tether...don't you need a tethering plan to use that?

DarkManX4lf said:
But if you use the built in wifi tether...don't you need a tethering plan to use that?
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not on a nexus s or a rooted phone with wifi tether, i dont believe

DarkManX4lf said:
But if you use the built in wifi tether...don't you need a tethering plan to use that?
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Officially, yes (or, "It's a bug we're working on").
What I know:
On the Evo, the Sprint wifi app would authenticate to check if you subscribed to a tethering plan. If not, it gave an error and would not work. The Nexus uses the stock Android tethering app, which does no such thing. It just works.
What I don't know:
- If Sprint will work with Google to make the stock tethering app subscription-dependant.
- If Sprint will leave it alone, as a Pure Google feature they'd rather keep on the down low. After all, people are switching to Sprint just to get stock Android, and there are reports that T-Mobile still isn't charging for tethering on the Nexus 6 months later.
- If Sprint will detect usage and charge for tethering after the fact.
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supercluver said:
Is there any way to get 4G tethering and infrastructure rather than ad-hoc?
If via wireless or wifi-tether app what version are you using? 2.0.8 pre-1 or 3.0 pre-14? Or something else? The built-in tethering turns 4G off, so alternatively to wireless tether is there a way around this?
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+1 on this! The built in hotspot only works for 3g. Of course we 4g owners want full speed so that just isn't good enough. I have gotten android wifi tether running on ad hoc and it works BUT I really want the added protection of WPA and the ability to connect other devices besides a computer. I've been searching for a way to run it as a wireless access point but haven't found anything. I'm guessing by the lack of response to the above post there aren't any solutions yet???

DuhWinning said:
supercluver said:
Is there any way to get 4G tethering and infrastructure rather than ad-hoc?
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+1 on this!
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I have gotten android wifi tether running on ad hoc and it works BUT I really want the added protection of WPA and the ability to connect other devices besides a computer. I've been searching for a way to run it as a wireless access point but haven't found anything. I'm guessing by the lack of response to the above post there aren't any solutions yet???
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I know I'm dredging up an old thread here, but when I Google'd this issue this was the thread I found and I wanted to add the solution for others running into this.
I ended up finding a way to make this work! I'm using the latest version of android-wifi-tether (3.1-beta7). If you set the "Device-Profile" to "Samsung Galaxy S" and the "Setup-Method" to "Netd", it will support tethering to 3G or 4G (4G takes a little while to reconnect after enabling tethering) via WPA/WPA2. My tethered laptop checks in at 9.96/1.41Mbps down/up with this method.

USB Tethering

Hey guys,
I am from the Captivate forums and I was wondering if the roms for the droid charge have usb tethering and mobile hotpsot enabled out of the box with the current custom roms. I know Verizon is providing their mobile hotspot capabilities for a short term but I would really like to get some tethered 4G speeds without having to pay for separate hotspot capabilities.

I'm running GummyCharged 1.8.1 with the pbj lagfix kernel, and while there is not exactly a built in tethering app I was able to easily install PdaNet for usb tethering. I also downloaded Open Garden WiFi for my mobile hotspot alternative app which seems to work well. Verizon's built in tethering garbage is just plain ridiculously overpriced.

abezapata said:
Hey guys,
I am from the Captivate forums and I was wondering if the roms for the droid charge have usb tethering and mobile hotpsot enabled out of the box with the current custom roms. I know Verizon is providing their mobile hotspot capabilities for a short term but I would really like to get some tethered 4G speeds without having to pay for separate hotspot capabilities.
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You thinking about jumping from att to verizon for the LTE lock in? That's exactly what I'm planning on doing either today or tomorrow. Don't you just love how easy it is to usb or wireless tether with our Captivates and custom roms?!

To USB tether, you can purchase EZ Tether (~ $10USD), or you can root and run this free app: Google Code Wired Tether
For Wireless Tethering, it's a little trickier - mostly because of the Wifi Access Point / Ad Hoc connection issue. I have heard that if you download this free app: Google Code Wifi Tether, and configure for the Samsung Fascinate, it will work fine. Haven't tested it yet, though.
Cheers,

slmhofy said:
You thinking about jumping from att to verizon for the LTE lock in? That's exactly what I'm planning on doing either today or tomorrow. Don't you just love how easy it is to usb or wireless tether with our Captivates and custom roms?!
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Yeah that is exactly what I feel like doing, but I will probably keep my Captivate activated just in case because I still have AT&ts unlimited data plan. Yeah that is the reason I was asking becasue everything is baked into our custom roms and they inlcude all of the mods anyone could ever ask for.
I would never pay a seperate fee for wireless tethering to any wireless carrier especially if I already am paying for the data plan. Wireless providers are just too greedy at times *cough*tiered data plans*cough*
Thanks for the responses guys. I hope the custom roms on this phone one day are up to par with what I have come to expect from the Captivate forums.
Also I read that Verizon has been cracking down on wireless accounts that use third party tethering apps. Can anyone confirm this or point me to a reliable source?

abezapata said:
Yeah that is exactly what I feel like doing, but I will probably keep my Captivate activated just in case because I still have AT&ts unlimited data plan. Yeah that is the reason I was asking becasue everything is baked into our custom roms and they inlcude all of the mods anyone could ever ask for.
I would never pay a seperate fee for wireless tethering to any wireless carrier especially if I already am paying for the data plan. Wireless providers are just too greedy at times *cough*tiered data plans*cough*
Thanks for the responses guys. I hope the custom roms on this phone one day are up to par with what I have come to expect from the Captivate forums.
Also I read that Verizon has been cracking down on wireless accounts that use third party tethering apps. Can anyone confirm this or point me to a reliable source?
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Hey, if you get a chance, can you shoot me a PM. I got a couple questions for you and I think I can't send PMs or something.

everything is about to change. On July 7th est, there is be tiered data plans for verizon. 2gb for 29.99, 5 gb for 50 and 10 gb 80. So if your not already on the unlimited than you will not have unlimited more. sucky

Is there a fix to get android-wired-tether working on the charge?
¿GotJazz? said:
To USB tether, you can purchase EZ Tether (~ $10USD), or you can root and run this free app: Google Code Wired Tether
For Wireless Tethering, it's a little trickier - mostly because of the Wifi Access Point / Ad Hoc connection issue. I have heard that if you download this free app: Google Code Wifi Tether, and configure for the Samsung Fascinate, it will work fine. Haven't tested it yet, though.
Cheers,
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I am running GummyCharged 1.8.1. I installed the wired_tether_1_4.apk, ran it, accepted root permission, but got the "Unsupported Kernel" popup. The adp-1_6-kernel-update_usbtether_r3.zip will not install as clockwork states it is outdated.
Is there a fix to get android-wired-tether working on the charge? I know pdanet/easytether/klink work, but are paid apps.
Thanks

@mrxhack - You are correct. I forgot that the SamChg won't run on the Google Code Wired Tether app. I like EasyTether, though - It works great, and doesn't cost too much. Try the free version first, to see if it works well with GC.

what wifi tether to use

i just flashed the blackhole rom and all i can say is wow. it is incredible, so much cooler than some of the other ones ive found. but anyways im rooted and i was wondering what a good wifi tethering app to use is. obviously a free one that i wont have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for each month on my bill if i use it

Good luck with that. Most carriers are trying to crack down on this theft...check the market place they are there

Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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I use android-wifi-tether
code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list

yep use wife tether
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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1. probably if ur in the top 5% of users of data
2. no they cant. you are grandfathered in
3. not the 4g. i heard of people saying they used 40, 65 even 80 gb and they did not get throttled or cut off.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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these phones can use quite a bit of data themselves. I think most of the apps use the "stealth" type of tether where verizon would have to guess that you were tethering based off of overall data usage.
verizon can throttle you. According to their policy, they will throttle the top 5% of data users, esp during peak times so as to not effect their network.

Jaskwith said:
Speaking of tether I have three questions.
1. If you start using a ridiculous amount of data you think vzw would catch on and try to charge you for it?
2. When vzw transitions to tiered data, they can't modify your plan if you currently have unlimited data can they?
3. Does vzw throttle data at a certain point?
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1. If you have unlimited data, then it wouldn't matter. If they can't prove you tether, then they can't charge you.
2. If you have unlimited data, you will be grandfathered into unlimited until you change your plan.
3. I've heard reports that they do and don't. I have never noticed being throttled, but I don't use a lot of data.
Verizon will soon be able to detect tether users. If you ever get an official update to your phone, say goodbye to tethering. Also google is starting to restrict downloads of tether apps to certain carriers, and you can bet verizon will be one of them.
Tethering days are numbered.
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I would recommend wireless tether.
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im running open garden wifi...same thing as wifi tether. i can't find wifi tether on the market

To find Wireless Tether on the market, you have to go into Airplane mode, enable WiFi and then search for it there.

or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Those of you saying that VZW can't change your data plan/charge you extra and can't detect tethering are fools. The valid question is not whether they can do these things, it is a matter of whether they care or not. Right now I'm sure that they don't. The future is always an unknown.

I wonder if its downloaded through the phone if VZW would have record of it somewhere?

sg1dan said:
or simply go to this website
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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I've used that particular tethering app on various phones successfully in the past, and am in fact tethered with it over my Droid Charge (with version 3.1 beta). On most phones it's shown as an ad-hoc connection, not a real "access point" or "hotspot" like it does with the official tethering app. (The Charge right now is showing as an ad-hoc device, not a real wifi ap.)
Which version are you using on the Thunderbolt? What settings? I tried it this morning on the TB with 3.1 and while it appeared to work and connect as a real hotspot with the laptop, the laptop couldn't get any connections beyond the TB. I had everything on "auto".
Any hints/tips appreciated.
The connection right now for me on the Charge is more stable than with the official hotspot app...and it was the same with the official app on my Thunderbolt. I've posted youtube videos of both phones being used as a hotspot where the mobile data connection keeps flickering off, sometimes as rapidly as on for 5 seconds, no data for 5 seconds. It was maddening. Yesterday I had to pull out my TMobile Nexus S and use it's CM7 hotspot (which shows as a real access point, btw) to get a useable connection to the web.
Seems like the VZW official offerings aren't very stable.

I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.

BariB523 said:
I use the Wireless Tether 3.0 beta but you have to go to settings and click hTC routing fix for it to work.
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Thanks! I missed that one in the settings. I also had to change the Device Profile from Auto to Generic, but now I'm tethered on my MacBook via the Thunderbolt, and it shows as a real access point.

I have been using wireless tether for root users on Das Bamf 3.0 RC4 with MR2 radio and have not had any drop issues thus far.

Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip

I believe the 2.0.7 one from the Google site is the only one that works on the thunderbolt.

JetBlk said:
Just downloaded this as well. Works great! Thanks for the tip
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Dude, you're on Verizon now too Cool!
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[Q] Android Wifi Tether -- will T-mobile charge me?

I recently discovered Android Wifi Tether, the first stable, functional and reliable app that creates an infrastructure AP so I can tether my Kindle Fire. The only problem is when I activate tethering, in the status bar I get the yellow Wifi Tether icon flasing by then a moment later, I get a smaller blue icon that says "Tethering or hotspot active". This is the same message that comes from T-mobile/2.3.6 ROM that says you're using their (pricey) builtin hotspot feature. When I go into Settings - Wireless- Tethering -Mobile AP settings the Mobile AP is grayed out and it says "Error" underneath it. With Wifi Tether off Mobile AP is not grayed and can be checked on/off. I don't want to get charged for tethering my KF!
Does anyone know how to setup Wifi Tether to not trigger the builtin hotspot feature -- or if it even does?
Specs:
Samsung Galaxy S4g mostly stock rooted 2.3.6
Android Wifi Tether 3.1 beta 11 (latest one as this moment). I'm using Samsung Galaxy S profile and for setup method I've used both Auto and netd, neither of which made any difference, got that same blue popup for both.
So does anyone know for sure if it's really being triggered and I'll get hit with the $30/month hotspot fee or if I can safely ignore this?

I do not get charged extra for Mobile AP or tethering. Just slowed down if I hit 5 gigs.

Thanks, that's very helpful. Yours is 5g though? I think my contract throttles me at 2g!
Edit: Yep, just checked, I get throttled at 2g. I'm on a two-line plan with my wife for $100 for both lines, unlimited text and talk, throttled data after 2g. Wonder if there are different plans with different throttle caps? I've never even hit 2g but now that I've discovered I can tether that may change...

lumin30 said:
I do not get charged extra for Mobile AP or tethering. Just slowed down if I hit 5 gigs.
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5gb/old unlmtd plan comes with free hotspots/tethering.
And jbone, Tmo will charge you if they catch on and the feature isn't on your plan.
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If you just do basic stuff like browsing and email your fine. I was using it to sftp files and got hit with a 10 dollar tether fee.
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that's not really fair.
I read the contract "yes".
I could find anything that says that they can amend it.
And look --> 5gb throttle and tether fee.
I haven't gotten anything yet though.
PS how do you know that you got throttled. I did get some slow 4g last month, but it was still useable.
If throttled, should you be able to see 2g on your status bar?

I've been using tmo for years. The only time I had an issue is when I exceeded 10gb. That month I had a fee, I agreed to pay it and claimed ignorance, got it removed. No problems since.
After the 5 gig "softcap", you are limited to EDGE speed, but data services still work.
EDIT: jb0ne, I was able to get 5g for $20/mo through retentions. However, if you have the promo $49.99/line, then any change would require a new minute and messaging plan.
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Wifi tether worked for me just fine until i started watching movies on it. They did not just automatically charge me. All they did was send me a txt msg and shut me off from using wifi tether. I found that if u change ur internet browser info in ur registry on ur computer u can still use this service for free even after they shut u off. Do not edit ur registry if u dont know what u are doing. Also there is no charge for going over ur 5gb cap they just slow it down to a crawl. If u want u can pay an extra 30$ for a 10gb cap. If u dont use enourmous amounts of data like i did with the tether they never shut it off.
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don't use the stock tether. Use barnacle wifi tether. This way it will look just like you are using data. YOu need to be rooted though.

airfluip1 said:
don't use the stock tether. Use barnacle wifi tether. This way it will look just like you are using data. YOu need to be rooted though.
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Yes do that... Thanks airfluip
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airfluip1 said:
don't use the stock tether. Use barnacle wifi tether. This way it will look just like you are using data. YOu need to be rooted though.
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Except that barnacle only makes ad hoc networks. Kindle fire needs infrastructure mode. Android-wifi-tether is the only program I've found that can do it, but like i said it seems to trigger the tmobile hotspot....but I'm not sure.

I never did, btw there r actually lots of other apps that do that as well... although i did get a text from tm asking me to stop lol

Try opengarden....its awesome!

Opengarden also only makes ad hoc networks. Their code looks like it was lifted straight out of Android wifi tether; guess they left the infrastructure option behind though.
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I currently use open garden to tether my kindle fire and it works 100% with no messages or charges from t-mobile.
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Tethering A Computer vs. Tablet

Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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mrvogel said:
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest

VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
Rocking T2 on the unlocked VSG3!

I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.

I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.

Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?

sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...

sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.