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Hey everyone! Looks like I'm finally gonna bite the bullet and buy a tablet next month. I'm looking at the following possibilities:
Asus Eee Pad Transformer
Acer Iconia A500
Motorola Xoom
iPad 2
Something else?
I'm in desperate need for some advice though. For reference, my primary uses for the tablet will be web browsing (over home wifi only), watching movies, playing games, GPS and map browsing, and developing 3D applications.
I'm a long time Java developer, so I'm thinking Android might be a nice way to go, but I'm willing to go iPad 2 if it's really a better device for my other uses.
Here's some things I'm curious about:
I've heard that Android tablets have some serious stuttering problems when playing H.264 movies. True?
Which of the manufacturers has a better track record for regular OS updates?
Do the Android tablets often have to reload pages that are already open in other tabs when going back and forth? (This drives me crazy on the iPad 2... along with the page loading delay when scrolling down long pages).
Does the same game released for iPad and Android Tablets run better on one over the other?
Any help/advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
I also confused if which one I should chose.
I took ipad2 and recommend i pad 2.
It is lightest and XGA resolution is very convinient to use.
Smart cover is also very useful.
Galaxy tab 10.1 and 8.9 also are lighter and look good but
ipad2 is still better with smart cover.
I would go fo the Xoom this is better than Ipad 2, but still a little expensive.
I have just returned from US and the rumor was that later this month you can bye the Xoom without 3G for apr. $600. Not bad.
I myself have an Toshiba Folio 100 and with the Dexter Foliomod Rom, this is faster than the Apple. Maybe buy a used one cheap.
I got to play with the EE transformer by Asus I would wait for that With the Detachable keyboard and 3.0 it works very nice and better price point than the xoom 600 bucks as soon as this is out ill have one
Do you have any experience with movies and videos on the Android tablets? Are they choppy/stutter like I've heard a few people complain about?
I've got the zoom and no problems with video whatsoever the new dual cores will really help in that regard, plus most high end new tablets have enough ram to do multiple things at once. I kinda wish i would've waited for the new galaxy tab though looks pretty sweet.
I would prefer the Asus Eee Pad Transformer
If you like iOS then get the iPad.
If you like android check out the viewsonic g-tab. Its very popular on these forums and nicely spec'd for its price.
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Interesting... I hadn't actually heard of the Viewsonic g-tablet until now (only their Vpad). I'll have to look into that one a bit more.
Yeah, looks like the Viewsonic tablet is running Froyo. I think I want to stick with a 3.0 tablet.
The Asus Eee Pad Transformer is definitely looking the most likely right now (with the Acer Iconia A500 in a distant second). I have friends trying to push me towards the iPad 2, but I'm not terribly impressed with any particular aspect of iOS except for the available software. I much prefer the base functionality of Android.
My main concern with the Asus Transformer is that I'm worried it's more hype than what it'll actually deliver. I wish I could hold one in my hands and try it out first.
I had to choose between many android tablets and I chose the iconia a500, cause of the better price. The Asus has better screen though.
Video playback is very subjective. I'd recomend taking a sample vid to a store and testing.
Personally, I haven't found any Tegra2 based tab great for it.
I'd say look at Tegra3 based tabs.
No exp with Ipad2, but unless urgent I would hold at this point for Ipad3 release. Rumor has Ipad2 down at least $100 when that happens.
Neil
I am debating on which to buy. I've been wanting a tablet for awhile now and have slimmed it down to these two options, but would like some feed back if possible.
I'm looking for s-off and root (quickly glancing at the forums, it looks like both are able to achieve this. I like to toy and tinker with things and having a root, with s-off, is a must for this.
Are there any huge differences between the two? I am liking the additional dock available for the Transformer.
Going to post this in the Iconia forum as well. Transformer people, win me over!
I've owned both and I can tell you that they're both great devices. It really depends on what you find more important.
The Iconia has a massive dev community, great sound, and a full sized USB port.
The Transformer has a brilliant display, is much lighter, has a full dock, VERY fast official updates, and a solid dev community.
My issue with the Iconia was really just the display (and weight to a certain extent). It has the second worst display of the current widely available android honeycomb tablets (Second only to the Xoom). 256K colors w/dithering vs 16M, and fairly poor display angles. That really sealed it for me. I loved the option of having the Virtuous roms available to me. Being able to run the UI of all of the other tables is a cool option, however I couldn't get past the washed out colors and blurry text. This tab also seems to suffer from the sleep of death a bit more than some of the other tabs out there (the Thrive is the worst suffering from this problem). This is where the tab goes into deep sleep and won't wake up. You have to hold the power button to reboot the device.
The Transformer isn't without it's own warts. The speaker quality is pretty poor overall. The biggest issue is that you're rolling the dice on a couple other problems that seem to happen at random regardless of the model revision (does seem to be a reduced chance of a lemon with the B6 and B7 revisions).
- Light bleed (standard led backlight flash lighting from the edges of the screen)
- Poor bezel attachment (the screen lifts in the corners on some tabs)
- Creaky back plate (the back panel of the tab creaks when manipulated)
Again, these are random and most that do have them don't see it as a deal breaker. I have 1 4mm spot of light bleed on the right side of my monitor that I can only see upon boot up in a completely dark room.
Modding on either of these tabs is incredibly easy to do. The NVFlash method of rooting/CWM'ing the Transformer is the easiest I've done. It's a wonderful thing. 3.2 was just released last week, so now we're all basking in the dev community molding that revision into new juicy roms and kernels.
go to bestbuy and try it out yourself. The A500 immediately turned me off the second I held it in my hands.
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go to bestbuy and try it out yourself. The A500 immediately turned me off the second I held it in my hands.
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Ditto, the form factor of the Iconia is plain ugly to me. As with the screen, it doesnt compare to the TF either.
+1 on Transformer.
+1 for TF - better display, slimmer, lighter, wonderful keyboard dock.
The Iconia does have better audio then the TF. If the Dolby enhancements are turned off , the Iconia sounds as bad as a TF.
I had a iconia for a few days, but eventually settled on a TF.
I have a TF for personal use and an Iconia I got for my store to take credit card payments (with Square). Besides the fact that I can't even use it for it's intended purpose (the Square credit card reader doesn't work with the Iconia for some reason) it is a pretty solid device.
However, in aesthetics.
The screen is not as good, it FEELS fatter and bulkier and the TF looks a lot more quality to me. The Iconia looks a bit dated and cheap (many others have commented on that as well).
I did put the two side by side and the Iconia is actually smaller than the TF.
You are going to get a lot of "pro Transformer" replies being that this is the Transformer forum, so I will give you the other side of the coin.
The Transformer has a proprietary power plug and they give you a very short cord. Accessories from Asus are freaking expensive and 3rd party accessories are almost non-existent.
I don't know how things are for Iconia 3rd party development (roms, etc) but for the Transformer it is relatively slow... not really much going on compared to other devices... very small number of interested developers.
Asus seems to be actively supporting the device, as a couple updates have been released for it, but they have failed to address some issues that have been complaints from the beginning for some people.
Overall, I am happy with the device. All devices have their drawbacks, so you just have to use the information you can find and make an informed decision. If I could do it over again I would spend the extra bucks and get a Galaxy Tab... but that's just me.
Im actually in the same boat as the op. I purchased both last week (using the $100 off Staples coupon) so i can get a hands on review of both. As of now, Im really leaning towards the TF but something keeps drawing to the Acer.
I like the screen on the TF and the feel of it, but the sound is terrible (even with the custom roms I have tried even tho i havent tried them all). I did like the usb on the Acer as I dont see myself buying the dock for the TF. I am a little concern with build quality as I am seeing more post of people having issues with screen/bleeding/spots appearing few months after having the TF.
In all I think you really cant go wrong with either but for me Im currently leaning towards the TF since it has the better screen and my main purpose for this is entertainment..just praying that the screen and build hold up long term
LOL you asked about whether getting TF or Icona in the TF forum and of course all these guys or gals here are owning TF so they +1 all for TF...
I would suggest to go with your guts,,,whatever you see the tablet applicable to your own use, go with it since you already narrowed down two... good luck
I chose TF because it weight, official update support, and I felt good when I held the TF in hand (have you held Viewsonic Gtab in hand? heavy like brick and uncomfortable? --it's just like that!)
One more thing,,, about the sound,,,it is tablet - do not expect it being great like laptop or PC - it won't be different if you use the headset
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You are going to get a lot of "pro Transformer" replies being that this is the Transformer forum, so I will give you the other side of the coin.
The Transformer has a proprietary power plug and they give you a very short cord. Accessories from Asus are freaking expensive and 3rd party accessories are almost non-existent.
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Just a fyi - I bought a 6 Foot USB 3.0 extension cord on amazon for $4.75 shipped. Now I have about a 9 foot power cord combined for cheap.
Otherwise, I agree. The power cord is so short, and makes no sense at all to me.
Just a quick reply before I go to work. I live in Japan. I don't have a Best Buy here. They have a Iconia A500 at the BX and I've played with it some, but can't compare to the Transformer.
I'll reply back later today when I have more time. Thanks for all the good input!
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You are going to get a lot of "pro Transformer" replies being that this is the Transformer forum, so I will give you the other side of the coin.
The Transformer has a proprietary power plug and they give you a very short cord. Accessories from Asus are freaking expensive and 3rd party accessories are almost non-existent.
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Like I said...I have both.
Acer power cord is just as short and it is also proprietary btw
Get what YOU want...NOT what we say.
Learn to think for yourself.
I agree. You should go with what works best for you.
I've tried each one to review and each has it's pro's and con's tbh.
The Iconia is just plain ugly for me to hold in my hands and feel comfortable with but that's just me. It is nice to have a USB on the tablet but Im not missing much if I just have my dock w/ tablet here. - The idea of a micro HDMI on a tablet, to me, is a not that practical as you have to hunt for those lil' things apposed to a mini HDMI cable which I just can't hype up anymore with everyone who see's this.
I also tried the Galaxy Tab bu I immediately returned it due to the fact that Sammy just completely cloned an iPad, leaving out any extra input options like micro SD!!!! - I'm not knocking on GTab owners at all but rly???
You should just youtube some videos and then see what you like.. THERE IS A RETURN POLICY FOR MOST STORES YOU KNOW
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Hi, I plan to buy a tablet in a few weeks and my favorites are also the iconia and the tf.
Right now I prefer the tf, but i've read in some reviews that thr video playback is sometimes laggy compared to other android tegra 2 tabs and this would be a deal breaker for me. Is fhis true? if so, do custom roms fix this problem?
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Acer power cord is just as short and it is also proprietary btw
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Good info... how is the availability/pricing on accessories for the Iconia?
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Get what YOU want...NOT what we say.
Learn to think for yourself.
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Alright. Thanks for all your replies everyone. I am and will decide for myself but since I cannot try out both I was reaching out to the community to give me their pro's and con's so I can weigh them for my own decision.
I'll have to go back to the BX later and play around with the Iconia some more. I didn't really play with the form factor, but what I really like from the Transformer is the keyboard/battery/etc dock. From my understanding it'll be future-compatible too.
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Just a fyi - I bought a 6 Foot USB 3.0 extension cord on amazon for $4.75 shipped. Now I have about a 9 foot power cord combined for cheap.
Otherwise, I agree. The power cord is so short, and makes no sense at all to me.
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Things like this is what I'm looking for. Thanks for all the positive feed back. I'm still a couple months away from getting either or, but like to research before I make the switch.
If you like the idea of the dock/keyboard/battery++, the choice is pretty much made.
Personally I think the dock makes the Transformer a completely different animal than all the other tablets out there. Funny thing is, I see the fact that you can use it as "strictly a tablet", as an added bonus of sorts. Not the other way around.
In my mind it's a little computer running Android, with a detachable screen. I can't picture myself ever owning "just a tablet" after getting used to my beloved Transformer.
Beware of bias. I'm in love.
Is the Transformer capable of stylus use? or does it allow for decent digital painting?
my 2 cents:
Asus Transformer
-way better screen (most important feature in a tablet, imho)
-a lot lighter then the Iconia (Iconia is the heaviest Android tablet)
-faster updates
-less freezes & runs smoother
-dock option
Acer Iconia
-USB port (the Transformer only has this on the dock)
-better built? allegedly. (my Asus is also very solid but the Iconia metal back feels stronger)
-better sound
-better camera (with flash)
For me it boils down to needing a USB port or not & to wanting the dock option or not.
If you don't need the USB port, then the Transformed is the obvious choice.
If you do (and don't want to spend the extra $150 for the dock) then go for the Acer.
Also if you really want a better screen and the dock option, again the obvious choice is the TF.
good luck & enjoy your new toy either or!
If you were to choose between these two tablets, which would you prefer?
Motorola Xoom 32GB WiFi only
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer 32GB WiFi only
I'm leaning toward the Xoom because of the nice metal body and style. Both have the Tegra 2 system and similar hardware specs. The ASUS is supposedly a little bit tweaked in the UI. The Xoom has HC 3.2. The ASUS has fake metal appearance but does still look rather handsome. The Xoom is much older than the ASUS. Both are the same price.
I wouldn't say the xoom is much older considering no tablet is older.. because the xoom IS the older device, and I'm always reading about it being updated(hc3.2 is good), and also because it has a more firm community for support and modifying.. I would go with it. Because it is older you should be able to get it cheaper, at least used.. and no, I don't see why you would buy it new. Plus as a manufacturer I would go with the xoom hands down. I guess for me there is no question unless I would consider the many new devices coming out any day now that would spank either of them.
Then again I have a nook color that can do just about every thing either of those can do except honeycomb. I would need a device to truly be superior in useful ways to spend the significant price difference.. newer devices will not become obsolete as soon, that's the main difference.
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Out of the two, i would go for the transformer purely based on price and the fact that transformer comes with a better screen
Any reason why you wouldn't consider the tab?
@Silentbtdeadly I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and the nook color and i think the tab is better in every way. Sure it can do just about anything that these tegra2 based honeycomb tablets but there is a gap as to how well they do it
Well i think Motorola is better ..
Definitely the Xoom. The Xoom is the reference model for honeycomb.. so from a developer perspective it would be the wisest choice.
I don't think some people are voting. lol...there's more posts for Xoom and more votes for ASUS.
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Out of the two, i would go for the transformer purely based on price and the fact that transformer comes with a better screen
Any reason why you wouldn't consider the tab?
@Silentbtdeadly I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and the nook color and i think the tab is better in every way. Sure it can do just about anything that these tegra2 based honeycomb tablets but there is a gap as to how well they do it
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I read that it has an IPS display. But I can't find any reviews corroborating that information or even mentioning anything enhanced about the display.
well, the poll speaks for itself! go and buy transformer! i have one and its great
pros:
-very good display (xoom´s display is just horrible )
-nice design
-asus brings updates very fast
-price
-dock
cons:
-some units has light bleed
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Out of the two, i would go for the transformer purely based on price and the fact that transformer comes with a better screen
Any reason why you wouldn't consider the tab?
@Silentbtdeadly I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and the nook color and i think the tab is better in every way. Sure it can do just about anything that these tegra2 based honeycomb tablets but there is a gap as to how well they do it
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I know they do it better, that is without a doubt, but it isn't enough for me considering price difference, not when I imagine far superior tabs coming to the market soon. And I like the idea of a widescreen sized device versus these oversized square tablets.. personally I'd like to see a truly good resolution on a tablet before I'd pay so much for one. If it barely beats my phone I don't think it is worth it.
I too am curious what makes the transformer screen better.
As for people voting, ppl commenting are probably using tapatalk and I don't think they can vote.. but at least they are trying to provide reasons rather than just vote.
And in threads like this I would like to know what the device will be used for.. what level of experience the buyer has, do they want it to be easily modifiable and supported by this community, or manufacturer updates.
I would also like to know what level of expertise the people commenting would say they have. So far the Guy who said he is a dev has the most sway as far as I'm concerned.
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Hey guys. I'm thinking about picking up a Xoom (or other tablet) in the near future as I'm seeing the prices drop a bit, but I've got a few questions, and would like some extra input.
Among my options for the price range are the Xoom (of course), iPad 2, Sony Tablet S, Asus Transformer(not so sure I want to go Asus here though...), or the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 (I'm not considering this too hard, since I've never had a good Samsung experience outside of tv's).
I currently own a Macbook Pro with the Magic Mouse and BT keyboard, but have an HTC Evo 4G for a phone. So really, I think the competition is between the Xoom, Sony Tablet S, or iPad 2. I feel like having a Macbook and the BT mouse/keyboard kind of leans me toward the iPad, while already being experienced with Android on my Evo, and the added connectivity of having my most mobile devices be android are leaning me toward the Xoom/Tablet S.
I plan on using the tablet during those down times when I would otherwise be on my phone or laptop killing time. So between classes, on long trips when I'm not driving, and maybe for some note taking in class.
So here are my questions...
1) Are there any functionality issues with having my computer be a Mac? I've never had any issues with my Evo, but you never know with a tablet.
2) Are the hiccups in the Android OS going to drive me crazy? Or does the Xoom hardward make up for the young-ish nature of Android?
3) As far as android tablets go, is Xoom REALLY the way to go? (E.g., would you do it again?)
4) What else should I know before dropping a few hundred bucks on a tablet?
Thanks in advance.
Just wait until the holiday season for the xoom 2 unless you can get the xoom for under $400. I personally wouldn't buy a honeycomb tablet this late...
Xoom and MacBookPro person here (and for what it's worth, I just sold my iPad 1 when I got the Xoom. Go Android, you won't regret it).
The only issue that I've had is with getting files onto the Xoom. Google (frustratingly) disabled USB Mass Storage for Honeycomb tablets, forcing us onto MTP for transfers, which Apple doesn't support. Google provides a tool, but it's incredibly unreliable, usually failing part way through any sizable transfer. I've had to use USB Debugging Mode and ddms (via command line) to transfer files. This also broke DoubleTwist USB sync.
So, love the tablet, but that's the main frustration with it. Also, there are no good apps for transferring your iTunes music or Movies. The iPad wins there, obviously, but the real browser and rootability (no ads!) won out for me.
I got a acer iconia a500 and love it. I could plug in my external hard drives right into the usb port to play movies off the hard drive or transfer files
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i have a xoom and tbh am extremely happy with it, apart from one thing, the screen...
up against my galaxy s2 (amazzzing phone) it looks dull and colourless, if the screen on the sammy tab is anything like the phone then id put samsung back in the equation...
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i have a xoom and tbh am extremely happy with it, apart from one thing, the screen...
up against my galaxy s2 (amazzzing phone) it looks dull and colourless, if the screen on the sammy tab is anything like the phone then id put samsung back in the equation...
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The Samsung tablets do not have SAMOLED like their phones do. I have owned an iPad, Nook Color, Acer Iconia A500, HP Touchpad, and now a Xoom. I have to say that they all have mostly the same screens. The Nook was definitely the best as far as pixel density. The rest are essentially the same to my eyes.
I sold the Iconia while I was on vacation in Brazil last month. I had every intention of replacing it with another one when I got back to the US. Well, I played around with the Touchpad for a few weeks instead. I enjoyed the Touchpad but it is just missing too many things to be my only tablet. I sold it for a slight profit and went to CompUSA to buy a new Iconia. That didn't happen.
While looking around at CompUSA, I noticed they had the WiFi Xoom for $399. I then realized it was for a refurbished device. I have owned many refurbished items in my life and this was not a deterrent for me. Especially considering it was refurbished by Motorola and not a third party. So, I bought it. The same day, last Friday, I stopped by Best Buy and picked up a standard dock for $25, OTG cable for $18, and the Portfolio case for $20. I felt good about myself on Friday. LOL
I think this device has all the right details. I like the placement of the LED notification light and the charging light. I am still getting used to the power button location though. I like that the bezel is minimal compared to its competitors. I really think Motorola did a great job in engineering this device.
Granted, it hasn't even been a week yet, but I really think this is the best tablet I have owned so far.
Does the xoom have a full sized usb port?
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Does the xoom have a full sized usb port?
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You have to use an OTG cable. Motorola sells one as the camera connection kit. You can find generic ones as well. I bought the Motorola cable for $18. I am sure generic is cheaper.
Its funny you mention that, it was one of the reasons I chose the Acer before. I wouldn't have a Xoom without this cable.
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Just wait until the holiday season for the xoom 2 unless you can get the xoom for under $400. I personally wouldn't buy a honeycomb tablet this late...
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You're welcome I got mine on the last go around and it has been perfect.
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Hey all i am going to purchase a tablet tommorow and just wondering now which one of the tablets are more superior then the other
Motorola xoom 32GB - $400
Asus Transformer 16GB (no keyboard) - $400
Acer Iconia 16gb - $440
i was leaning towards the asus but now i am seriously considering the xoom. i dont need the keyboard dock for the asus i just want a tablet that will Keep updating and a decent performance and screen
Thanks help will be appreciated
Asus with a keyboard is really cool
Get the Motorola Xoom. It is an awesome, compact device, it is a tad heavy (judging by your other two options I don't feel this an issue for you), but I do like the heft. It has a solid build quality, and I think it is the cheapest out of the bunch. If you live in the U.S., Best Buy has a family version that is less than $400.00, it has 16GB of in built storage and is the Wi-Fi only version. I've seen 32GB Wi-Fi go for $400.00-$450.00, this is the version I have, my friend sold it to me for $300.00, so I lucked out there. Not sure of the other two, but the Xoom can be rooted and there are sizable amount of custom roms available (though I haven't felt the need to root it yet), Xoom also has a mini-hdmi out port. Front and back cameras are okay though the dual led flash on the back camera is nice to have. The tablet is speedy, the touchsreen is bright (1280 × 800) and responsive, color saturation is good though not as vibrant when compared with my smartphone's qHD display, but that is a bit unfair, the Xoom's screen can holds it own very well and I have no major complaints at all. The battery life on this thing is incredible. I bought it from friend at around 3PM and he forgot the charger, it was at 62% battery life, through using the device and using the Wi-Fi to download and install my apps/Widgets, it lasted me into the early morning hours the next day. Of course heavy media playback will reduce the battery life, but still out of all the mobile devices I have owned, I was very impressed with battery life. In the end I feel the Xoom is an all around great tablet especially for the when you factor in the features and cost, you certainly won't regret purchasing it, after owning one I can now understand why the Xoom was one of Cnet.com's Best of CES 2011 Winner.
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Xoom was the winner of CES, but will it be the winner in the end of 2011?
That's the place of the Transformer.
I can be 100% sure that before the Prime showed up, the first Transformer was the best Android tablet. So don't be hesitate
I was just about to ask the same question as the original poster. The only difference being, the acer iconia a500 being cheaper (16gb version, 32gb version costs the same as xoom and transformer). If there was a big price difference the choise would be much easier, but now I do not know what to do. I was leaning towards xoom, because it's the smallest of the bunch, has 32gb and is considered well built. Iconia is the cheapest and would make the most rational buy (plus the standard USB is a big plus) but does not look as good as the other two. And transformer - the biggest advantage is the dock for those who want it and I don't. What else is going for it, except the screen (is it really so much better comparing to let's say xoom)?
What do you think of iconia - built and functionality wise when comparing to the other two? Would you rather go for xoom or transformer when the price is identical (transformer is 16gb without the dock and xoom is 32gb)?
thx guys i ended up choosing the asus just for the screen and i have no doubbt i made the right choice the asus is well supported and there a few roms for it so yeah couldnt be more thrilled
Just as a sidenote, and I have no idea whether you even considered this one or not, but the Viewsonic GTab is the same basic hardware as the Xoom save for the fact it has but 512mb RAM. Mine is fast, smooth, EASY to root and has several stable ROM's along with the fact that a person almost has to TRY to brick the danged thing. At about $250 it is, IMHO, an underrated STEAL.