[Q] Considering a Xoom, among other tablets. - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys. I'm thinking about picking up a Xoom (or other tablet) in the near future as I'm seeing the prices drop a bit, but I've got a few questions, and would like some extra input.
Among my options for the price range are the Xoom (of course), iPad 2, Sony Tablet S, Asus Transformer(not so sure I want to go Asus here though...), or the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 (I'm not considering this too hard, since I've never had a good Samsung experience outside of tv's).
I currently own a Macbook Pro with the Magic Mouse and BT keyboard, but have an HTC Evo 4G for a phone. So really, I think the competition is between the Xoom, Sony Tablet S, or iPad 2. I feel like having a Macbook and the BT mouse/keyboard kind of leans me toward the iPad, while already being experienced with Android on my Evo, and the added connectivity of having my most mobile devices be android are leaning me toward the Xoom/Tablet S.
I plan on using the tablet during those down times when I would otherwise be on my phone or laptop killing time. So between classes, on long trips when I'm not driving, and maybe for some note taking in class.
So here are my questions...
1) Are there any functionality issues with having my computer be a Mac? I've never had any issues with my Evo, but you never know with a tablet.
2) Are the hiccups in the Android OS going to drive me crazy? Or does the Xoom hardward make up for the young-ish nature of Android?
3) As far as android tablets go, is Xoom REALLY the way to go? (E.g., would you do it again?)
4) What else should I know before dropping a few hundred bucks on a tablet?
Thanks in advance.

Just wait until the holiday season for the xoom 2 unless you can get the xoom for under $400. I personally wouldn't buy a honeycomb tablet this late...

Xoom and MacBookPro person here (and for what it's worth, I just sold my iPad 1 when I got the Xoom. Go Android, you won't regret it).
The only issue that I've had is with getting files onto the Xoom. Google (frustratingly) disabled USB Mass Storage for Honeycomb tablets, forcing us onto MTP for transfers, which Apple doesn't support. Google provides a tool, but it's incredibly unreliable, usually failing part way through any sizable transfer. I've had to use USB Debugging Mode and ddms (via command line) to transfer files. This also broke DoubleTwist USB sync.
So, love the tablet, but that's the main frustration with it. Also, there are no good apps for transferring your iTunes music or Movies. The iPad wins there, obviously, but the real browser and rootability (no ads!) won out for me.

I got a acer iconia a500 and love it. I could plug in my external hard drives right into the usb port to play movies off the hard drive or transfer files
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i have a xoom and tbh am extremely happy with it, apart from one thing, the screen...
up against my galaxy s2 (amazzzing phone) it looks dull and colourless, if the screen on the sammy tab is anything like the phone then id put samsung back in the equation...

baron von bubba said:
i have a xoom and tbh am extremely happy with it, apart from one thing, the screen...
up against my galaxy s2 (amazzzing phone) it looks dull and colourless, if the screen on the sammy tab is anything like the phone then id put samsung back in the equation...
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The Samsung tablets do not have SAMOLED like their phones do. I have owned an iPad, Nook Color, Acer Iconia A500, HP Touchpad, and now a Xoom. I have to say that they all have mostly the same screens. The Nook was definitely the best as far as pixel density. The rest are essentially the same to my eyes.
I sold the Iconia while I was on vacation in Brazil last month. I had every intention of replacing it with another one when I got back to the US. Well, I played around with the Touchpad for a few weeks instead. I enjoyed the Touchpad but it is just missing too many things to be my only tablet. I sold it for a slight profit and went to CompUSA to buy a new Iconia. That didn't happen.
While looking around at CompUSA, I noticed they had the WiFi Xoom for $399. I then realized it was for a refurbished device. I have owned many refurbished items in my life and this was not a deterrent for me. Especially considering it was refurbished by Motorola and not a third party. So, I bought it. The same day, last Friday, I stopped by Best Buy and picked up a standard dock for $25, OTG cable for $18, and the Portfolio case for $20. I felt good about myself on Friday. LOL
I think this device has all the right details. I like the placement of the LED notification light and the charging light. I am still getting used to the power button location though. I like that the bezel is minimal compared to its competitors. I really think Motorola did a great job in engineering this device.
Granted, it hasn't even been a week yet, but I really think this is the best tablet I have owned so far.

Does the xoom have a full sized usb port?
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gmfeny said:
Does the xoom have a full sized usb port?
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You have to use an OTG cable. Motorola sells one as the camera connection kit. You can find generic ones as well. I bought the Motorola cable for $18. I am sure generic is cheaper.
Its funny you mention that, it was one of the reasons I chose the Acer before. I wouldn't have a Xoom without this cable.
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Kippui said:
Just wait until the holiday season for the xoom 2 unless you can get the xoom for under $400. I personally wouldn't buy a honeycomb tablet this late...
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You're welcome I got mine on the last go around and it has been perfect.
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So, looks like I'll be keeping my G-Tablet for a while... :)

I originally purchased my G-Tablet as something to hold me off until the Honeycomb tablets came around. After looking at the alternatives there's really not much to "upgrade" to.
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
Acer Iconia A500 - another good tablet however it's twice the price I paid ($225) for my G-Tablet. It's heavier, physically bigger, and overall battery life is not as good as the G-Tablet. The wifi (according to reports) is also fairly weak which sucks as my router is not in the most convenient location.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I had high hopes for this one and although a very sexy tablet, I've now crossed it off my list as an upgrade option. It's been confirmed to have a Tegra 2, no USB, no HDMI, and no microSD card slot.
After going through all the alternatives it seems the only thing these really offer over what I currently have is Honeycomb and with the recent developments concerning Honeycomb on the G-Tablet, the G-Tablet itself may very well have Honeycomb too. To tell you the truth though, I wouldn't be to bummed out if we never get it. Which brings another high point in regards to the G-Tablet: the developer support! I'm certain the other tablets will eventually catch up but the developer support is amazing for the G-Tablet and I've had a ton of fun just trying out new ROMs! Anyway, I believe the G-Tablet is the best Android tablet for the money right now and looks like I'll be keeping it for a while!
Pretty much agreed. It'll be a different story a few months from now, but for the time being the gTab is still the best price/performance combo out there!
pitamakan said:
but for the time being the gTab is still the best price/performance combo out there!
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Enectic said:
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
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They're supposed to be releasing an adapter that plugs into the dock port giving you a usb port.....also, you can use the included dock cable and attach a female to female connector and it gives you a functional usb port. Or just pony up for a bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Havent picked up my gtab since I got the transformer.
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They're supposed to be releasing an adapter that plugs into the dock port giving you a usb port.....also, you can use the included dock cable and attach a female to female connector and it gives you a functional usb port. Or just pony up for a bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Havent picked up my gtab since I got the transformer.
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True but there's no release date or price on the adapter yet. As far as using the dock and a female to female it seems to be very hit or miss. People appear to get very few things working with that method which doesn't bode well for the flash drives and HD's I also connect to my tablet. I could buy a bluetooth but that would just add more cost to the item. With all things being said I think I'll save my money for the Tegra 3 tablets supposedely coming later this year.
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Enectic said:
I originally purchased my G-Tablet as something to hold me off until the Honeycomb tablets came around. After looking at the alternatives there's really not much to "upgrade" to.
Asus Transformer - the most viable option however no USB (blah, use my G-Tab hooked up to my TV at times so I need a USB port for my wireless keyboard/mouse) and I'm not interested in spending an additional $150 just to have a USB port. Sure the screen is nice but I really haven't had any complaints with the G-Tablet screen under normal use.
Acer Iconia A500 - another good tablet however it's twice the price I paid ($225) for my G-Tablet. It's heavier, physically bigger, and overall battery life is not as good as the G-Tablet. The wifi (according to reports) is also fairly weak which sucks as my router is not in the most convenient location.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I had high hopes for this one and although a very sexy tablet, I've now crossed it off my list as an upgrade option. It's been confirmed to have a Tegra 2, no USB, no HDMI, and no microSD card slot.
After going through all the alternatives it seems the only thing these really offer over what I currently have is Honeycomb and with the recent developments concerning Honeycomb on the G-Tablet, the G-Tablet itself may very well have Honeycomb too. To tell you the truth though, I wouldn't be to bummed out if we never get it. Which brings another high point in regards to the G-Tablet: the developer support! I'm certain the other tablets will eventually catch up but the developer support is amazing for the G-Tablet and I've had a ton of fun just trying out new ROMs! Anyway, I believe the G-Tablet is the best Android tablet for the money right now and looks like I'll be keeping it for a while!
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$225??? you better keep it haha. That's a great price. I think this is the only time that patience will actually payoff for me and for all of us.
Ditto. I bought my gTab very early on (mid November), thinking it would tide me over until Spring and Honeycomb. Now I plan to keep it through its one-year anniversary, and wait for an ICS tablet. If it lets me.
I'm also now going to hold onto my Nexus One (14 months old) until the Nexus 3 comes out with ICS. Just see no reason to get rid of The Greatest Phone Evah before that new toy arrives.
So, thanks, Google, you're saving me a nice chunk of change over the next few months!
First post on the fora here, excited to get hacking (err cracking?) on making my G-Tablet everything I want it to be!
You got an incredible deal on your tablet, $225... of course you need not me to tell you that. I got mine for $270, and that was a pretty great deal.
I was already fairly sure about purchasing my G-Tab before, and the more and more I'm looking at the alternatives the more sure I am of the purchase.
Another aspect I like is the inexpensiveness of the accessories. For $38 you can get the Malata Zpad Dock that attaches to the proprietary port and acts like an upright stand holding the tablet in portrait mode. It has a USB port, an HDMI out port, and, quite unique for a tablet, an ethernet port. This is the feature that clinched it for me, as there will be times when I will wish to access a wired network with no wifi connection available. In addition, I'll use the HDMI port to output Power Point presentations to a projector.
And then there's also the $28 kick stand and keyboard combo that makes the tablet feel like a netbook. Granted, the case which holds it all together can't really be used as a protective case because the clips hold the device in too poorly, and it's not nearly as nifty as the Asus Transformer's plug-in keyboard and touchpad combo. Also it doesn't offer an extra battery, of course. However, it's a heck of a lot cheaper, and at least you don't need it for USB ports (how odd is it that the Transformer has an on-board mini HDMI port but not an on-board USB port?).
I'm really excited to hear that an internal GPS chip is supported by both the firmware and the hardware, though I'm a bit miffed that I have to buy and install it myself rather than just using the capability right out of the box. Still, that's another purpose the G-Tablet will fill for which I do need a device.
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Tablets

I think of all the tablets available today, the HP Touchpad is the one I would choose. I got to play with a few tablets recently. Among them were the iPad, Moto Xoom, HTC Flyer, Blackberry Playbook, Huawei Ideos and the HP Touchpad. The newest Sammys weren't available. Nor were the Acers.
First off, the BB Playbook was the absolute worst of them all. It took 3 people to accidentally figure out how to delete a picture. Whilst messing with it trying to navigate around the UI, I snapped a picture of myself and wanted it off the system. I looked and looked and looked and finally called one of the store associates to assist. After he played with it for a long time, he called another store associate. The second associate played with it for a very long time also and then accidentally figured it out. We all went through every menu we could find and the answer was a simple downward swipe from the top of the LCD frame.
This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
The rest of the tablets were sweet. The HTC Flyer was super smooth and gorgeous. The Xoom is old news. And the iPad is tired. I was really surprised by the Huawei tablet. It's so inexpensive, yet it works really well. Nevertheless, I love WebOS and my play time with the HP tablets was great. It worked flawlessly and smoothly and has that excellent multitask system. Plus I love the style, size and shape.
When the Sammys come out, I'll give them a try also and see it they can best the HP.
I'm liking the xoom. A keyboard and a mouse and I can ditch the MacBook.
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im not and idiot or a noob, im tyring to post legitimate feedback on an android rom i am currently using but i need 10 posts so here is one more, thanks for this stupid rule! 8
I have been using Droid ROMS, MODS and kernels since the G1.
OG Galaxy Tab
I have the OG Galaxy tab and it rocks honeycomb pretty well. By 2 year old loves netflix so I'm happy.
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OG Galaxy as in the 7 inch version. Honeycomb is on thru a custom ROM.
When I was in the market for a tablet I took a look at the xoom, playbook, iconia, and the transformer. The xoom was off the list because it was out of my price range. The playbook, I could not find the back button do that was it. It came down to the iconia and transformer, and I chose the iconia because of the full sized usb port and flash on the back.
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This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
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also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
I don't have a tablet. But I would like one!
Kiboe said:
also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
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The store I was at had a couple Playbooks on display at different areas of the store and the first one I came to had a non-functional small round button on the top...the button about the size of a bb pellet. I didn't know it didn't function; that it was damaged, and figured it was some sort of LED indicator. On the second Paybook, which was fully functional, if I hadn't pressed that little round button by accident to turn on the device, I never would have figured out how to power it on because I attributed that round button as an indicator or something of that nature. I wouldn't have intentionally pressed it.
The Playbook is typical BB B.S. I had the same experience with my BB phone. I spent 90% of my time trying to find stuff on it than I did just using it. No wonder BB is in the crapper these days.
I went with a Transformer. I did some research too. I will say this that playing with a unit in the store and taking it home and using it for a week or two is a huge difference. I am sure you can make some basic decisions based on your likes and dislikes, To heavy dont like how it feels in your hand etc, but nothing takes the place of good ole fashioned "Use it". I wrote a pretty long article regarding my purchase and my decisions tree in the transformer forums, as there are a lot of "Can the Asus Transformer replace my netbook/laptop" threads on a lot of different forums and i wanted to put my thoughts out there as well. I will find the link and link it. But in short the basic answer is it depends. I know not the best answer and not the one you were looking for but its the truth.
Here is my post its long but might be worth a read if you are trying to decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15679836#post15679836
I am very happy with the transformer and in my post i give the reasons i chose it.
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we have the xoom here. not sure how we like it yet. can't get it to root. or rather can't find a walkthrough that doesn't assume you already have certain things installed on your computer. not their fault. it's the xooms for me needing to root to actually use all it's features.
i have the galaxy 10.1 its so dirty i love it. slim, light, and fast
Apple suxxx but by the way, I prefer the iPad 2 !
I prefer the 7 inch tablet, but there aren't any good ones. The best 10 inch is the sammy sung tab 10.1.
It down right makes all the other tabs look like s**t. Samsung did a GREAT job on the screen. I like the feel of the thrive but it's screen sucks. The ipad seemed heavy but I do like its keyboard. The touchpad and playbook are the worst. the iconia is pretty ugly. The xoom feels nice but has a bad screen in my opinion. Tab 10.1 is best then xoom or ipad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
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skydeve said:
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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Yeah, I agree. The iPad is a powerful and well engineered tablet. But it lacks the high res display I desire and this makes it tired for me. I'm spoiled by the Retina display of my iPhone 4. There just isn't a display as good as the Retina display. If Apple puts an equivalent display in the next iPad, that would solve the tired problem.
i am waiting samsung tab 10.1 or sony
I have the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and it rocks, so fast and easy to use.
I bought my 8 yr. old daughter a Velocity Micro Cruz. I sent that same POS back 2 weeks later. She is only 8 so I'm not looking to spend mega bucks and I don't buy anything made by Apple. I am thinking of getting her the Gen 9 Archos 8in tablet when it arrives in a few months. The Cruz isn't a bad tablet for the price point but it simply has too little internal memory. It constantly froze on us. It is great looking hardware, nice looking screen and a little heavy. Also, not having the genuine Android Market or XDA-Dev support was a killer. I came to realize I have no love for Android in it's current state (2.3 and below as I haven't used or seen a Honeycomb tablet yet). As a long time Windows Mobile user Android still reminds me of an incomplete and immature version of Windows Mobile that is more popular but not more effective. I am disappointed in this realization, especially when 90% of the tablets out there worth their salt, hardware wise, are Android based.
To be fair, I actually played with my friend's IPad II also. When I say played with, I mean sat there and used it for 2-3 hours to see if it could impress me. The answer is no. It's a $600 POS. What's scary is the Velocity Mirco Cruz was $179 total and the $400 or so price difference really doesn't show when it comes to using the damn things. The Ipad was lighter, faster and didn't freeze (because it has enough damn internal memory), but like every other damn Apple product it is limited and constricted. I swear if the Cruz had more internal memory it would have been 200x more effective than that Apple pos. Transferring information was easier. Using it as a part of my current environment was easier (HD2, Windows 7 laptop, Windows Vista PC). When I used the Dolphin browser it worked excellent (as did Safari). Basically the only satisfying experience I had on the Ipad was the Youtube application and the only thing that made it better than what I get on my HD2 is the screen size. Beyond that it has nothing on my 2 year old phone. Apple smapple.
I don't expect the HP or BB tablets to last very long in this market so I'm hoping Microsoft comes out with a viable tablet OS (which is rumored) and it doesn't actually disappoint me the way everything else has. Knowing I won't be able to replace the Cruz for under $200 I upped the ante to $300 and it looks like Archos is going to slide in with the gen 9's. Hopefully I won't remain disappointed.

Tablet or ipad

Hi all
I want to buy a bigscreen
And i am confused,what to buy tablet or ipad???
And if tablet then which one??
Tablet that i can carry easily and which have good specifications,hardware,and good dev support..
Pls guide me!
You do know people will say anything other than iPad, but for an android tablet here we go
10.1 inches: Asus transformer series, Acer tablets, galaxy tab 2 or galaxy note 10.1.
7 inches: galaxy tab 7 inch, nexus 7
I don't know the real specs, but these are the tablets I would choose.
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Galaxy tab 2 7 inch..is this tablet worth buying,i mean will it get dev support??
I would never buy a crapple product as long as long i am breathing but it is true that the ipad has a large collection of tablet optimised apps but on the other side is completely locked down and if u have a symbian/android phone u will want to throw the ipad away after one hour or jailbreak it.
But we have to root android too!!!
I mean in what way everyone says that android can be customized and apple not..apple has cydia!!
Galaxy Tab 10.1
We just rolled out the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to a bunch of homecare/healthcare workers so I had a good chance to play with them, and would highly recommend it. The screen size was just about perfect, it felt comfortable and sturdy in the hands and the speed seemed very snappy, even with just the stock Android and no modifications.
I would expect that support from the Dev community will be in abundance and should continue for a long time to come.
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But we have to root android too!!!
I mean in what way everyone says that android can be customized and apple not..apple has cydia!!
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Cydia doesn't do nearly as much as Android out of the box. Right now, iOS has no way of getting widgets, and I think that is a very important part of Android.
If you want size, the 10.1 inch tablets are actually bigger than the iPad (at 9.7), but the 7 inch tablets are much more portable.
Rooting Android is NOT the same as jailbreaking, and not even close to the same in meaning. So you cannot say "we root, they jailbreak"
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jasspreet said:
Hi all
I want to buy a bigscreen
And i am confused,what to buy tablet or ipad???
And if tablet then which one??
Tablet that i can carry easily and which have good specifications,hardware,and good dev support..
Pls guide me!
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Isn't an iPad a tablet? Or is it a not-quite-a-tablet device? Kinda like Incipio's website has a smartphone category and an iPhone category. Is an iPhone somewhere between a feature phone and a smartphone?
jasspreet said:
Hi all
I want to buy a bigscreen
And i am confused,what to buy tablet or ipad???
And if tablet then which one??
Tablet that i can carry easily and which have good specifications,hardware,and good dev support..
Pls guide me!
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What about ASUS Padfone? Portable, big, with physical keyboard. And You can change it the way You need
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Isn't an iPad a tablet? Or is it a not-quite-a-tablet device? Kinda like Incipio's website has a smartphone category and an iPhone category. Is an iPhone somewhere between a feature phone and a smartphone?
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iPads aren't tablets. Tablets can actually do simple things like download files off the internet, or offload your camera pictures without retarded dongles or "the cloud"
An iPad is nothing more than a toy. There's no way people can actually be productive on one, not when it's so locked down into that ecosystem. If I create a document on a tablet, I want to be able to throw it on a thumbstick and put it on someone elses computer without internet, or attaching the tablet to another computer (the latter I don't even think is possible on the iPad because you have to use iTunes to transfer files). I mean, why relearn something as stupid as transferring a file, when the best method (drag and drop) has been around forever??
The lack of a user accessible file system is a deal breaker for me.
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I definitely prefer android over the ipad. I agree that the ipad is nothing more than just a toy. The imac pro i have is an amazing computer that allows me to do graphic design here locally with two 20 inch screens i can use the adobe cs software and it will pay for itself.
I took my ipad back and purchased a quad core transformer prime. To say the least it is amazing bar none. I usually can go a day or so with full use at work and home without charging, the best part about it is the keyboard connection, it comes with a backup battery that powers and charges your asus transformer tablet. so just incase you fail to charge it that night it should still be able to get ya through the day and get your emails sent out in time so when you make it back home you can charge it then. I definitely recommend it...
On another note, you can also look into the MK802 by android, it is an android computer a bit bigger than a flash drive it comes with one USB port, a micro USB, mini HDMI so you can make your tv your personal android the micro USB has a connector inside the box that allows you to have 2 full USB ports along with a micro sd card slot. plug it into your surge protector, you know that one last port you have available on the surge protector, . and plug it into your tv via HDMI and since it has a built in b/g you can connect to your wifi and browse on your now smart TV. Definitely worth the 74 dollar price tag.
Whatever you shall choose to best suit your need; I am wishing you the best.
well depends for simplicty i would recommend a ipad as you can do facetime and theres good accassibility support, but if you like custormizing the your tablets then go for a google tablet as ipads are quite restricted
Thanks for your replies
Personally I would go win win8pro. Where u can actually use it to root or jailbreak ur android and ipad.
But it expensive,have a fan, and ****ty battery life.
For good developer support. U can't go wrong with having a nexus.
For bigger, I like the transformer. Really really like it.But I hear it doesn't come with an unlockable bootloader. So one of those ipad/ios looking, plasticity sammy should be good
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iPads aren't tablets. Tablets can actually do simple things like download files off the internet, or offload your camera pictures without retarded dongles or "the cloud"
An iPad is nothing more than a toy. There's no way people can actually be productive on one, not when it's so locked down into that ecosystem. If I create a document on a tablet, I want to be able to throw it on a thumbstick and put it on someone elses computer without internet, or attaching the tablet to another computer (the latter I don't even think is possible on the iPad because you have to use iTunes to transfer files). I mean, why relearn something as stupid as transferring a file, when the best method (drag and drop) has been around forever??
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Exactly the ipad is nothing but an ipod shuffle with video playback capabilities > and i honestly think this isn't the right place to ask about an ipad.
I just wrote a big fcken wall of text and thanks to this work pc internet explorer I need to write it all the fck out again...
I was looking at the asus transformer infinity tf700. can you install windows 8 on these?
the reason I say the infinity is because all the recent reviews say it's the best android talbet out atm. kinda like the galaxy note 2 for specs. it will be the best android phone specs atm.
this is totally disregarding prices, just what's best.
it looks like the infinity came out in the UK 3 days ago. is this true?
is it recommended to wait until end of october 2012 for a win 8 tablet, or will it not be as spec happy as the infinity? I will use it mainly for movies web etc.
I keep up to date on the samsung phones and I'm always anxiously waiting for the galaxy's coming out. is anyone up to date on the aus tablets, as it appears they dominate the tablet market (I'm obviously anti apple). if I'm wrong please infrom what tablets are best atm.
this entire wall and my requirements could change if someone tells me you can't install win 8 on an android tablet. then I'm done here.
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wait for the surface pro > its gonna be expensive but its gonna be awesome. I wholeheartedly recommend a phablet in place of a tablet though i never thought a phablet would be actually ergonomical until i got mine. and its the best of both worlds .
I watched some clips of the surface pro and thought sweet, but then I saw the seminar of it and I was like -_- that prick in the blue jumper. script galore. it cashed once or twice, at one stage he was like 'I can smoothly bring down the menu bar' or something, and he's swiping it like 5 times then basically moves on because it wouldn't swipe down and open.. I just found it extremely annoying to watch rofl...
I don't want to support it, I know I'll be supporting them in the end with a win 8 tablet, but I don't want to support then much more than that.
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can you plug external hhds into the android tablets out there atm? it detects them?
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can you plug external hhds into the android tablets out there atm? it detects them?
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Some or most of them, yes, as long as your kernel/rom supports it.

Any recommendations for another tablet besides the TF700 Infinity?

Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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wtf?
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Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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For android tablet, I believe only real contender at this point is Galaxy Note 10.1. If you are ok with iOS, new Ipad is another. Each has their own pros and cons and I don't think any one of those is completely superior to the other two. So you have to prioritize what are the important factors or decision making factors for you.
For example,
I asked myself do I like iOS or Android? I had iPad 2 and multiple android tablets. I simply preferred Android, so new iPad was out.
Then is FHD crucial? After using FHD and non-FHD screen, I just could not go back to non-FHD. So I ended up arriving/technically coming back to Transformer Infinity. At this point, I am extremely happy with my decision especially after Jellybean update. But I have no doubt people can be as happy with either of above two tablets as well.
So those are three I think you should focus on as long as your budget permits.
The dark horse are the Windows 8 tablets, but none of them are Full HD except 1100+ Samsung's mere 5 hour battery, much heavier tablet. So again, without even trying they weren't my choice but could be yours.
Get the iPad 3.
Android is for the adventurous Apple is for the mundane...
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Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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Your only choices are the nexus 7 and the Kindle HD 8.9.
All other tablets are enormously overpriced (the ipad especially). If you feel like paying for extra features (like the bigger screens on the infinity) then by all means, do it. With the infinity (or galnote, but I hate amoled) you're getting the best tablet. With the nexus or Kindle, you're getting the best value.
I exchanged my Infinity for the Note 10.1 and I like the Note better. It's just overall better (quality wise). Granted, the low res screen takes some time getting used to (though AFAIK the Prime has the same screen as the Note).
I can only agree with everything said above. If you buy now, on Android side, you have the following choices: Note 10.1, Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD (though I wouldn't recommend it since Kindle Fire does not give you 100% Android experience). If you are willing to wait for another month, you will get an onslaught of Windows 8 tabs to choose from (Microsoft will officially Windows 8 on 26 Oct if I am not wrong). On the top of my head, I would be looking forward to ASUS Vivo Tab (imagine the combination of the Infinity and the Note 10.1: Keyboard dock + Wacom digitizer+ Office 2013). If I were you, I would definitely wait for next month, it does not seem that long.
Thank you all for your feedback! I think I'll hold out one more month and see what's on the way. Not a huge fan of iOS so iPad is out of the question. I'm liking what I hear about the note so far. When is this next Asus tablet supposed to come out?
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I like my 64Gb Infinity. I'm a movie buff, photography buff, and I like to travel. What sold me was the HD screen, the great battery life, the microSD slot, built-in GPS, and the HDMI out. What I miss is not having a built-in USB port, not having Cell service, and the built-in speakers kinda suck. I have an iPad through work, so I understand the convenience of always having internet access.
The lack of USB port was easily solved by buying the USB port adapter. Even more important, the USB port adapter provides power to the USB port. This is required to attach USB card-readers, hard disks, and USB speakers (solves the crappy built-in speaker problem).
Cell service (3g/4g) on a tablet has always been a take it or leave it feature for me because of the expense. But I did recognize spots where it would have come in handy. Most mobile GPS mapping apps require an internet connection, which is difficult to find while exploring a new city (Venice). Though, I have since found mapping apps that allow you to download and cache maps. I also signed up for a new startup service called FreedomPop, which provides an inexpensive (500Mb/Month for $5/month) 4g MiFi type device that works in the US, giving me an internet connection wherever I roam in the US. The cool thing about this service is that there are no commitments.
One issue that cropped up on a recent trip was a problem with writing to an external USB NTFS drive. This has since been resolved in the current Jelly Bean update.
I looked at a number of different Android tablets and it came down to the Infinity and the Galaxy Note 10.1. What sold me in the end was the HD display with IPS mode for bright daylight. 1080p movies look stunning on it and photos look great. The Infinity has replaced my travel laptop and my travel backpack is at least 3lbs lighter...
You might also consider the recently reported-on Nexus 10, which may or may not be the rumored Sammy p10. Still waiting for that one myself.

help deciding what tablet

Need help deciding what tablet to get I currently have an iPad 4 retina 64gb, and I like it but have come to the conclusion that I only like it because the apps are optimized for the tablet screen, have the note 2 and love it and want the same experience on a tablet instead of waiting around for a jailbreak to get somethings that I can do on an android tablet. I like to play video games and the moga or plug in an Xbox 360 controller is a plus for me widgets and all that fun stuff I like. The choice of tablets that I'm considering is the Asus transformer infinity with keyboard dock or the nexus 10 leaning more to the infinity because with the keyboard dock it can replace my laptop with splash top connecting to my Mac mini it is a laptop at all times. Things that concern me is screen resolution, and tablet optimized apps any help is much appreciated.
Lots of these threads going previously.
IMO it's pretty much up to you.
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Need help deciding what tablet to get I currently have an iPad 4 retina 64gb, and I like it but have come to the conclusion that I only like it because the apps are optimized for the tablet screen, have the note 2 and love it and want the same experience on a tablet instead of waiting around for a jailbreak to get somethings that I can do on an android tablet. I like to play video games and the moga or plug in an Xbox 360 controller is a plus for me widgets and all that fun stuff I like. The choice of tablets that I'm considering is the Asus transformer infinity with keyboard dock or the nexus 10 leaning more to the infinity because with the keyboard dock it can replace my laptop with splash top connecting to my Mac mini it is a laptop at all times. Things that concern me is screen resolution, and tablet optimized apps any help is much appreciated.
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Sounds like the Nexus 10 would be best for you.
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Need help deciding what tablet to get I currently have an iPad 4 retina 64gb, and I like it but have come to the conclusion that I only like it because the apps are optimized for the tablet screen, have the note 2 and love it and want the same experience on a tablet instead of waiting around for a jailbreak to get somethings that I can do on an android tablet. I like to play video games and the moga or plug in an Xbox 360 controller is a plus for me widgets and all that fun stuff I like. The choice of tablets that I'm considering is the Asus transformer infinity with keyboard dock or the nexus 10 leaning more to the infinity because with the keyboard dock it can replace my laptop with splash top connecting to my Mac mini it is a laptop at all times. Things that concern me is screen resolution, and tablet optimized apps any help is much appreciated.
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Sounds like the Nexus 10 would be best for you.
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Except for the fact that the Nexus 10 has a) availability issues and, more importantly, b) quality control issues that seem even worse than with the 700. You furthermore do not get the added battery life because of the powered dock, and less storage options. Why do you put forward the N10?
More on-topic, though: it really depends on preference, as Thats OK already said. I really do like the battery-powered dock and the extra oomph that gives -- I have a relatively long commute and irregular shifts, so it pleases me a lot not having to recharge every 12 hours, or whenever a wall socket is available somewhere. The screen resolution is fine -- I happily read technical (medical) books and articles, for which the radiographs, charts and stuff all come out really nicely, and even the private reading is a pleasure (text is crisp, contrast is good). The movies and documentaries or TED talks I regularly watch are great, too.
Nah. I'd pick the TF700 if it came out now if I had no other options. However... and we also discussed this last week -- you really should use the serch function, you know -- someone I forgot the name of mentioned that soon a bunch of new models of several brands will be announced soon, and it might be prudent to wait it out a bit. You might shoot yourself in the foot when buying into an aging system, no matter how well it performs. Then again, in tech, there's always something better just around the corner, and if you wait, you can wait forever.
Good luck deciding!
You should wait and see the new Samsung tablet line-up (new models should be announced soon) before buying anything, well at least this is what i would do.
Search with Google for Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 (this link is in italian, but you will get it - > http://www.everyeye.it/tech/notizia/ecco-la-line-up-dei-tablet-samsung-per-il-2013_148080) .
MWC is coming tomorrow and I am sure the right thing to do now is WAIT!!! Many new awesome products may be introduced during MWC, which may include tablets. I was hoping for a new Transformer tablet, but it seems that ASUS will introduce a new Padfone, which technically can still be considered a tablet.
While you may end up with a better tablet if you wait, that same logic would mean that you would never buy a tablet since there are *always* newer and better devices around the corner. Even if the "perfect" tablet gets announced tomorrow, you then need to wait another few months before actually getting your hands on it (if you are lucky) - and even then, how knows what will happen (could end up being a dud). You just can't tell the future!
My advice - go to Best Buy today, mess with a few different models for an hour or so and buy one NOW! We are not talking about purchasing a new house here - it's a tablet that costs ~$500 that will be worn-out and/or outdated in a year or two anyway. Satisfy the urge and go get what seems best - you won't regret it - any modern tablet is an extremely fun device to use!
It's easy for us to tell you to wait - we already have a tablet that we are thoroughly enjoying!
Just my opinion....
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Another question from a lurker
Would you get the 32gb and dock or get the 64gb and grab a dock later?
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Another question from a lurker
Would you get the 32gb and dock or get the 64gb and grab a dock later?
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IMO 32 gb for the internal memory is plenty to hold your apps and some media. I put all the space-intensive stuff, music, pics, videos on external SD/micro cards anyway.
The dock, providing a good keyboard, extra battery, USB and extra SD card slot is one of the main selling points for this tablet.
If you want a dock, the TF700 is your best choice - no doubt about it.
If you don't need/want the dock you have quite a few other choices for a great tablet out there.
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I thought about waiting myself. However, I wanted Tegra platform, and it looks like the earliest a Tegra 4 TF would release is in July. Side by side, I don't see a difference in the quality of the screen between an ipad 4 and a TF700. OTOH, the TF700 screen gets very very bright for outdoor usage.
As to storage, I've got a 32GB TF700, a 32GB microsd card installed, and the keyboard dock with a 16GB SD card in it; that's roughly 80GB of raw storage here and I can easily expand it. With the dock, battery life is phenominal. The tiny keyboard is taking some getting used to, but it's very handy. In fact, I haven't even turned my old dell laptop on since I got this. Just haven't needed it. I use a PS3 dualshock controller and a micro-hdmi cable for emulator gaming on the big screen. It's pretty cool. Haven't played any of these SNES games since I was a teenager.
The touchwiz launcher on your note 2 isn't available on a transformer. Asus has it's own launcher, but it's very nice. I suggest you try one out in Best Buy. They have a sale this week, the TF700 is $429, and the KB dock $99. That's like $120 off full price. Though, I think they change their sales on wed, so I'd decide quickly.
I don't regret buying the TF700 one bit. It's a good tablet/laptop replacement, and less than half the price of Asus's own ultrabook with a touchscreen. The only thing I'm really sacrificing is a full windows platform. In all the time I've had my old laptop though, I never really did anything on it that I couldn't do on this tablet, and this tablet does it for over 8 hours longer, lol.
jammicphi said:
Need help deciding what tablet to get I currently have an iPad 4 retina 64gb, and I like it but have come to the conclusion that I only like it because the apps are optimized for the tablet screen, have the note 2 and love it and want the same experience on a tablet instead of waiting around for a jailbreak to get somethings that I can do on an android tablet. I like to play video games and the moga or plug in an Xbox 360 controller is a plus for me widgets and all that fun stuff I like. The choice of tablets that I'm considering is the Asus transformer infinity with keyboard dock or the nexus 10 leaning more to the infinity because with the keyboard dock it can replace my laptop with splash top connecting to my Mac mini it is a laptop at all times. Things that concern me is screen resolution, and tablet optimized apps any help is much appreciated.
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Seriously, fck samsung and there crappy-soft-plastic build quality. Anyone who would consider a samsung product does not know anything about build quality. The ridiculously high resolution? Not worth it. Why push a higher pixel count than the retina display if you cant see pixels beyond retina display. All of the android tablets anounced for this yr do not improve on the infinity except for vizios tablet that uses a tegra 4, and who knows when that will actualy be released. The tegra 4 is expected to ship on devices late this year. Of tablets on the market a non-stock infinity handles them all with no issue. I can confirm this bc i work at a tech store and have tested them all against my infinity. No android tablet can replace a laptop like an infinity. Since buying mine 8 mos ago I havent once used my old laptop.
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Seriously, fck samsung and there crappy-soft-plastic build quality. Anyone who would consider a samsung product does not know anything about build quality. The ridiculously high resolution? Not worth it. Why push a higher pixel count than the retina display if you cant see pixels beyond retina display. All of the android tablets anounced for this yr do not improve on the infinity except for vizios tablet that uses a tegra 4, and who knows when that will actualy be released. The tegra 4 is expected to ship on devices late this year. Of tablets on the market a non-stock infinity handles them all with no issue. I can confirm this bc i work at a tech store and have tested them all against my infinity. No android tablet can replace a laptop like an infinity. Since buying mine 8 mos ago I havent once used my old laptop.
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Just want to make a slight correction, minus the keyboard dock, the Sony Xperia Tablet Z has much better hardware specs than the tf700 (Snapdragon S4 Pro, 2 GB RAM, even 4G LTE). Since it is going to be released in May in the US, it will be a mistake not to consider it.
Dang must be a local best buy sale, mines still at $499. Though about the xperia but really like the idea if the dock. With the Ubuntu coming out it could make the tf700 VERY interesting.
If I get it I will be getting a dock. Was just wondering if it's better to get the 64 or just have a microSD and SD in the dock and call it good.
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Just want to make a slight correction, minus the keyboard dock, the Sony Xperia Tablet Z has much better hardware specs than the tf700 (Snapdragon S4 Pro, 2 GB RAM, even 4G LTE). Since it is going to be released in May in the US, it will be a mistake not to consider it.
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The problem is that you can't get a keyboard dock with the Sony, which is one of the TF700's main selling points!
I cannot understand why other manufacturers aren't offering an optional keyboard dock - I simply wont even consider a tablet without a keyboard dock -ever. It just makes the device that much more useful...
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Don't they make bluetooth keyboards that would work?
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Don't they make bluetooth keyboards that would work?
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Absolutely not - a bluetooth keyboard is not even close to a true keyboard dock. A true keyboard dock is integrated with the device - it becomes part of the device. It includes an a battery to charge the device, a USB port, a SD memory card slot, customized buttons on the keyboard, a trackpad with two mouse buttons and even doubles as a stand for the tablet (which even charges the tablet!).
On the other hand, a bluetooth keyboard is just another separate accessory that you have to lug around, actually requires batteries instead of providing a battery, has no expansion slots and is, in general, a pain in the a$$ to work with (I know, I've tried).
So, as you can see - while they do make bluetooth keyboards that would work, they do not provide anywhere near the level of integration or functionality of a true keyboard dock. It's not even close.
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Good points
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Don't they make blue tooth keyboards that would work?
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Not really...
I've tried a couple I have the RockSoul BT keyboard it's a hassle and disconnects periodically.
For me a keyboard isn't a necessity.
Now a blue tooth mouse... :good:
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Seriously, fck samsung and there crappy-soft-plastic build quality. Anyone who would consider a samsung product does not know anything about build quality. The ridiculously high resolution? Not worth it. Why push a higher pixel count than the retina display if you cant see pixels beyond retina display. All of the android tablets anounced for this yr do not improve on the infinity except for vizios tablet that uses a tegra 4, and who knows when that will actualy be released. The tegra 4 is expected to ship on devices late this year. Of tablets on the market a non-stock infinity handles them all with no issue. I can confirm this bc i work at a tech store and have tested them all against my infinity. No android tablet can replace a laptop like an infinity. Since buying mine 8 mos ago I havent once used my old laptop.
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Thanks! You make me feel REALLY good about buying this tablet :bigsmile:
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Dang must be a local best buy sale, mines still at $499. Though about the xperia but really like the idea if the dock. With the Ubuntu coming out it could make the tf700 VERY interesting.
If I get it I will be getting a dock. Was just wondering if it's better to get the 64 or just have a microSD and SD in the dock and call it good.
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I load all my large files like media and videos on SD/micro cards, basically use the internal for apps and such only. 32gb is plenty for me in that regard...
64gb micro in the tablet, 64gb SD in the dock + optional USB stick.... I don't think I'll ever run out of storage on this baby!
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If the idea of having a keyboard is appealing to you, get the infinity...
If you find it slow, unlock bootloader and install cromi

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