Since I saw some screenshots of custom ROMs on a Chacha, that had a dialer on the screen I would like to ask:
Which ROMs are really adapted to the Chacha?
That means:
- no dialer keys on the screen because you have a keyboard anyway
- keyboard usage possible in menues and lists
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I would think about using a custom rom if that can make battery life longer and the phone quicker, although I don't want to have any loss of functions or a ROM that acts like a ROM for phones without keyboard.
So I guess I better might not change it, but it would be nice if someone could give us some overview on how good the roms fit to the Chacha and what the benefit will be there.
I also like to know,
cyanogen mod has some issues?
No one knows?? Anyone here who installed a custom rom?
The issues have been stated in the SuperOSR/CM thread. Check there.
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yes, i saw theme,
I speak about general appeal, is it worth it, and doesn't mess my phone?
thanks.
The problem is that even HTC didn't provide the phone with some software that fits to the phone. For example: If you want to start the timer or if you want to add something to your calendar, the phone will show you some touch input for the numbers instead of offering you to enter the time with your keyboard.
I doubt that custom roms will do better there, will they?
the problem is:
1. Cynogen mod team don't support the chacha yet, i'd like to use the cooked rom, cos i tested cm7 on my wildfire before, and it was nice and sleek.
Honestly if you want to use custom ROMs, get another phone. The ChaCha isn't the best phone for that at all.
Chacha is cool
I don't need a "rocket in my pocket!", my phone just needs some love from developers.
2. chacha is way cooler, with a trackpad, and bigger screen.
stayfidz said:
Chacha is cool
I don't need a "rocket in my pocket!", my phone just needs some love from developers.
2. chacha is way cooler, with a trackpad, and bigger screen.
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It's a cool phone, yes, I just ordered one myself, but it's not ideal if you want a large selection of custom ROMs is all.
dftba said:
Honestly if you want to use custom ROMs, get another phone. The ChaCha isn't the best phone for that at all.
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That is what i was thinking too.
The problem is: The Chacha is one of the few phones that has the keyboard in the barren design. There is only the Samsung Galaxy Pro or the Motorola Pro+ with similar design, but both of them don't have keys for answering and ending phone calls. There are two Huawei (e.g. the U8350) but they have no LED-flash and the old type of touchscreen. So this clearly makes the Chacha the best Android-Phone in this category.
However: 85% of the Android phones don't have a hardware keyboard and all the other phones that have a keyboard usually have it inside, so they still have a big screen and a ROM that is made for use without keyboard.
Since the Chacha has the keyboard available all the time, it doesn't make sense to have any phone dialer on the small screen. Even the calender could have been done like on the Nokia E71 where you just have to use your keys.
And that's the point where I think that most custom ROMs are done for phones where people don't use the keyboard most of the time... A custom ROM would only make sense if you still have the benefits from the keyboard and if the small screen isn't filled with things you don't need because you have a keyboard.
How is the situation with the ZaSa_4chacha?
ydardiry said:
Hey there, bought my chacha 2 Months ago, 2 weeks ago i rooted and flashed the SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 Custom ROM,
since i did, i can tell you that i really feel that the battery life is now Better and ofcourse the Internal memory thing is solved, now i always have +100mb of Internal memory free.
there's a few bugs though, but i assure you it's worth it..
That's just my opinion
cheers
** i love the Chacha.
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Did you root it while still S-ON?
I did yesterday using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452173
I'm totally new to Android and the HTC Status/ChaCha and I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what to do next. From what I gather, do I need to partition my SD in order to enable a2sd? I don't know what is the difference between a stock rom and a custom rom, I just want my phone to have enough internal memory. If you can give me a few pointers.. I'd appreciate it. TIA.
Nicraz said:
Did you root it while still S-ON?
I did yesterday using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1452173
I'm totally new to Android and the HTC Status/ChaCha and I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what to do next. From what I gather, do I need to partition my SD in order to enable a2sd? I don't know what is the difference between a stock rom and a custom rom, I just want my phone to have enough internal memory. If you can give me a few pointers.. I'd appreciate it. TIA.
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You need to create an ext4 partition on the MicroSD first. Do some searching and you'll find some guides, I don't think you need a custom ROM to do it as long as you're rooted
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You need to create an ext4 partition on the MicroSD first. Do some searching and you'll find some guides, I don't think you need a custom ROM to do it as long as you're rooted
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Thanks for your reply. I did manage to read something about that but I have to take the SD card out of the phone, it said not to partition it while the card is still IN the phone. I don't have an adapter to hook it up to my laptop so I just ordered an 8gb microsd with the adapter to do the next step. So with that I think I should be good.... right? Lol. Custom rams sound a bit too tricky for me... so I'll stick with this for now. Thanks!
Nicraz said:
Thanks for your reply. I did manage to read something about that but I have to take the SD card out of the phone, it said not to partition it while the card is still IN the phone. I don't have an adapter to hook it up to my laptop so I just ordered an 8gb microsd with the adapter to do the next step. So with that I think I should be good.... right? Lol. Custom rams sound a bit too tricky for me... so I'll stick with this for now. Thanks!
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It depends on the method you use. Some methods advise you to partition the SD in recovery mode or with the Terminal whereas some say to use the computer. If the tutorial you found is good, just follow that and you should be fine
ydardiry said:
Hey there, bought my chacha 2 Months ago, 2 weeks ago i rooted and flashed the SuperOSR and CyanogenMod7 Custom ROM,
since i did, i can tell you that i really feel that the battery life is now Better and ofcourse the Internal memory thing is solved, now i always have +100mb of Internal memory free.
there's a few bugs though, but i assure you it's worth it..
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That sounds good, but do you have a good keyboard usability then?
Also, what are the bugs?
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It depends on the method you use. Some methods advise you to partition the SD in recovery mode or with the Terminal whereas some say to use the computer. If the tutorial you found is good, just follow that and you should be fine
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Thanks! I went to Target last night because I wanted to be done with the process ASAP but a 4gb sd card is like $14.99+tax. So I decided to get it on eBay... 8gb with adapter $7.99 total. Now I'm just waiting for it.
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I have a myTouch 3G running Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom and am looking to try out some Hero roms. I am very unfamiliar with linux and uncomfortable with the process. To get Cyanogen's 4.0.2 rom on my phone I used the one click root method. Also I do no know how and need help partitioning my sd card for the hero rom. Another important thing I think maybe is that I am still on the original radio and spl as I haven't flashed either of those. So anyone looking to help me like I said I will be willing to pay. I know there are people who don't show you how to do it, but will flash for you and that's not what I'm looking for. I need someone to show me the process so that I can learn and do it myself.
I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.
radikaled said:
I would avoid flashing the radio if I were you. Especially if you have the myTouch3G. Also you don't really need to flash the SPL unless you tried to load a particular ROM and it failed. There shouldn't be a need to pay, and if anything if you take the time to search around these forums you should be able to find everything you need.
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I agree, since we praise open source, I doubt anyone will want money for helping..
We all help each others
My recommendation to the partitions is to check the threat about recovery-RAv1.2.1.img.. this makes it automatically!!! But, most of the hero ROM's doesn't need partitions. I recommend you search a nice 32B ROM and see what people say, that's what I do !!!
Since you already install one ROM, I doubt that you'll have any prob with other good ROM
Anyway, help is always given.. there's even a wiki on the top of this forum
That help me out understanding a lot of things and there's almost links for everything!!!
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
vinbeaver said:
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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I'm not an expert.. I don't know if I'm telling a big joke, but here it goes:
I think that is for pre-caching behaviors of the ROM. In laptop/desktop linux distribuctions, needs as well to have this partitions. The swap, swaps memory... ext3 is where it will be placed the root.. extra partion can be added fat32 is a common partition read by windows and linux (ext3,2,1, windows don't read the content of it).. The best thing is really to re-search.. the most you want to know the most you learn
vinbeaver said:
I understand the open source and helping for free, it was more of an incentive. What are the reasons for these roms wanting or "needing" partitions? I will look at the few things you mentioned.
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Partitioning is mainly done because of the small amount of storage that is provided on the device. The idea is to have your applications and cache installed (running) on a memory card (microsd). Depending on the quality of the memory card you purchased you may experience an increase in performance as well.
Generally speaking it's not really required and probably just overcomplicates things for you from the getgo.
Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.
vinbeaver said:
Wow... so I tried a Hero rom without any partitions and I must say, wow it is unbelievably slow. I'd like to find one where I don't have to use an sd card, or I'm wondering if it's possible to just install the htc widgets without the rest of it. It appears to me the only worth anything on there to me is the widgets, the black taskbar, and maybe the browser. Haven't played enough with it cause it's extremely slow which like i said may be because i didn't use a partitioned sd card.
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There's some cool ROM's.. unfortantly for the 32B I don't know what should I recommend... I have a 32A!!
For having a 7 desktops home software, there's openhome.. for the clock widget with weather, you'll have like weather widgets donation version and beautiful widgets..
Here in Xda, we don't publish such things.. as link for paid applications, cracked, as some of the people are developers them selfs of that softwares..
There's other places..
GOOGLE KNOWS EVERYTHING
ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better. and i was also wondering what other good software is there like manila 2d to use.
BLACKE30 said:
ive been trying to put some cool stuff on my verizon xv6900(htc vogue) like throttle launcher and Manila 2D, but it makes my phone slower and freezes a lot, i dont know if its in the way i install it or not but i was wondering if i need a new rom to make it work better.
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hey there,
what rom are you using now?
the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick
BLACKE30 said:
the stock one that came with the phone on the phone it says rom version 3.14.605.1 and im using windows mobile 6.1. thanks for replying so quick
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Hey there,
Kool no probs, the vogue is a reasonably old device and as such doesnt have a huge amount of memory.
Running the apps you mention will use a lot of memory esp if you have some other apps open.
If i were you, i would wonder over to the vogue section, do some reading to understand how to flash a cooked rom on ur fone.
Using a cooked lite rom will release some memory and will depending on the rom will give u a much newer interface to use, rather than the old touchflo.
Just make sure you do a bit of reading first so u dont end up bricking ur device
Greetz and have fun.
i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
sorry but forgot i got one more question, if i put a micro sd memory card would that also solve the proglem?
BLACKE30 said:
i have researched a lot about putting roms in phones but im still not confident enough and worried about bricking it, i wish there was a video on this website b/c ive seen only one on the internet and it wasnt too specific.
One last question what else can i do if i decide not to take the risk with the rom is there other software? i know that htc home coustimzer is one option.
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Yes u can use that to change the appearance of htc home, you can do quite a lot with that, like colours etc.
If you delve into ur device a little, you can find the pic files for the clock and change them so they look like the touchflo3d clock (just wont flip)
Dont worry, spend your time reading, it is acutally quite simple to hardspl and flash, just the first time is kinda scary lol.
okay man thanks a lot.
OK, i know im prob going to be it with allot of search answers and what not but i searched and i cant find the answer i need.
So i have a mt3g and it is rooted, cyan recovery, stock radio and stock spl. I have the ability to flash what ever rom i want, every time i do it works fine to install it. I normally run Cyan and the m_blend theme, how ever recently i have been trying out different hero roms. As it turns out i really like these roms and what they have to offer, however the only one i can get running smoothly is a jac heroski rom that apparently is out dated. Every time i flash to something newer it flashes fine and for the most part every thing work, how ever when i hit home i just get a loadin screen for at least 30 sec... now when i search this it says to make changed to my partitions on my sd card, but i am NOT running a partitioned sd card. Is that the problem? i thought that was only necessary for space on the G1? Any ways i guess what im asking is why does every one say to flash your spl or the rom wont install but it does fine? and why is it run fast except to home screen??
yes it's the problem. partition your sd with at least 96mb of linux swap. it has the same ram as the G1. Also, post this in general next time.
cool, thanx for the answer, how do i set that up? i searched for linx swap and came up with nothing?
Hi.
If you try Amon_RA recovery so you can do it from ther.
I would say that Amon_RA recovery is the best tool for flashing Rom`s.
If you have root and a terminal on your phone takes you to 2min after you've added recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img on your sdcarde.
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
actually he has the mt3g, so he needs the 1.5.2G, not the H recovery.
make sure you back up your sdcard, though. its gonna erase everything on it to format it. (that caught me off guard, before. )
Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts
PJcastaldo said:
Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts
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i wouldn't go for a hero rom, personally. from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow. try cyanogens or dwangs. i say dwangs; i used it since 1.12 and only problem EVER was the random reboots which are now fixed.
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from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow.
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You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.
tazz9690 said:
You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.
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Exactly what he said....I will just add my two cents, as i have been in your shoes before. I have tried alot of ROMS and my favorite Hero(actually magic sense) rom is Trojan Hero (by Eugene373). everyone has thier own opinion just letting you know if you havn't tried it.
Use Swapper to change your swapper settings and tweak them to your phone. my settings are as follows 128mb swap and 80 swappiness
And one MAJOR POINT i can't stress enough which i noticed a big difference was the memory card. it's a known to have a class 6 sd card but for new people we never really know.
Once i changed it it gave me a big boost.
hope that helps
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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Ok so not biased answer it worth it but if you can expand your budget little bit more might aswell get a galaxy nexus however for your question :
#1 : battery life is pure crap on stock battery unless you get an anker otherwise you can get more then 1-2 hours screen on time..
It depends how you use your phone if you game alot alot ot heats up easily but i do normal use sometimes it gets hot but overall it isn't that bad..
#2 : build quality is quite good feels good in the hand it isnt easily breakable but keep in mind if you drop your sensation there is always a chance of cracking the screen...
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
i cant really answer to this one as my phone was already s-off unlocked bootloader but from the forums it seems quite hard...
Gaming is good if you'd ask me but it still lags a little bit on gta 3
#4 : yes specs are better and ram is plenty enough on sense rom i always have 250mb free and on aosp roms about 340mb free..
But as i said having a anker is a must if your an moderate user !
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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1. decent/average.. and yea it gets hot.. depends on your kernel setup too
2. there are several hardware defects that affect random people. digitizer, deathgrip, low speaker quality, etc.. mines been fine so i cant really add much to this. pretty solid build though, sort of typical of HTC
3. 90-99.9% stable, still a few things here and there.. not necessarily to do with our phone but with ICS in general. VERY easy to unlock and root and get s-off.. but ive been doing this to htc phones for years so i guess experience counts. gaming is as it should be. some games might not work with certain sense 4.0 or other ICS roms for some. everything works for me though
4. yes. especially if you decide to do the CM/MIUI/AOSP/AOKP route (aka sense-less, lol) youll have more than enough free memory
shahkam said:
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
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The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
T-Macgnolia said:
The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
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Yeah forgot that vorbeth fixed it in his cm9 build sorry so now what we are close to like a 95% working ice cream sandwich rom?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
I have a Htc Senseation and ive had heaps of phones, battery life for me..is okish with screen brightness lowered but i would like to get a anker battery,
The ICS Roms are really Good for me i love the Team PKMN with the little tweaks makes it very more..my own
Ive only had about 3 issues, 1 Boot looping..and that was due to my own fault.
2 a Camera issue with a rom but that was due to my own error
3 a couple of random shutdowns from something but again..my own fault.
Basically i have Setcpu , System Tuner , And cputuner running
im 18 and i was able to root it so if you have any experience rooting..you should had NO issues, just post and ask around most people are very helpful to guide you with a how to So Far my fav phone.
tennyleaz said:
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
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On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
Based on my personal experience, I will not buy a HTC phone again. This is a shame considering I have the Desire as well.
I have been plagued by the following problems:
death grip ( i know most phones experience this at some point, but this is no excuse )
missed calls - even with a full signal strength, my phone would not even ring
reboots at random intervals
HTC do make good phones, but apparently the One X on the Vodafone UK network is also plagued by signal loss.
I love my sensation!
Yes its worth getting! battery life can be worked with I got a long lasting battery it makes a huge difference! Rooting can be difficult depending on your h boot version but I promise its well worth it and very do able. Just follow the guide to s off and rooting. You will do fine. Ice Never had problems with my device and I flash a lot. Mine has proven sturdy and solid. I have no complaints. I really enjoy everything about my device! Ics custom roms have proven to be more stable than stock roms! ice never got a reboot on a custom ROM and ice tried several, even sense 4. I can honestly say I'm still enjoying my device! Thanks to the developers here at xda. If your rooted you make your device rudely your own. if you don't like something just change it. the customization is wonderful! You can create a device thats truely yours with the help of rooting, roms, kernels, and mods! Its always fresh never boreing! I think you will be completely happy. I know I am! Your not stuck with something you don't like because you change and modify it to what you want. I don't understand how anyone can complain about that! You have the ability to change it on the deepest levels. My advice is to try many roms until you find what suits you! Then you can change kernels and mods and really customize your device. Warning its highly addictive lol. bottom line IM still happy after a year. I think you will be also. I must say rooting is a must! Also s off. Then you will be on your way to making your device custom AND TRUELY your own creation! Enjoy every step of the way! I think you will love it! I know I do. Best of luck and have fun!
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
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On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
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Your not getting 9h screen on time no matter what post some pics! I the sgs3 which has 2100mah cannot achieve that...
By the way add like 40$ more and you can get the galaxy nexus off the market place here on xda really at that price it doesn't worth it...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
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Just to chip in here, I'm a complete noob at this stuff but a few days ago I just followed this guide and went from stock ICS to rooted with a custom ROM in only a few hours, and much of that was spent waiting for files to download. I highly recommend you follow it, and if you do, modify step 4b a little bit. Everything Superwipe does can be done by a 4EXT wipe, so replace step 4b with:
Download the custom ROM you want, you don't need Superwipe
Place the zip on your sd card
Reboot into recovery
Perform a full wipe ("wipe | format" --> "format all partitions (except sd card)")
Enable smartflash ("tools" --> "enable 4EXT SmartFlash")
Flash the new ROM ("install from sd card" --> "choose zip from sd card" --> select zip)
And once you're rooted you can repeat this process as many times as you want each time you want to try out a new ROM
HTC sensation is worth every penny. I am inloved with this phone. I have been using one since January. I rooted it and installed a custom ROM on it. The phone fits perfectly with my needs. It is fast enough, nice design, good material quality so, yeah, I reccomend it.
Now, is it possible for me to downgrade 4est recovery from v2.... to v.1 and stuff RC?
The damn speaker is so awesome, I've made a conscious decision not to buy a HTC phone again. Galaxy s 3 or the eagerly awaited Google nexus with jelly bean should be a wise choice.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
What do you guys think about the dude claiming 9hrs of screen on time ?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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+infinite
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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Hows that super gorgeous screen a downgrade ? And rom developement is crazy aswell + really light device which suits me better personally..
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
DonDizzurp said:
"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
Any Ideas?
georg2010 said:
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
Trozzul said:
Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
When it says: Starting ADB Server...
Turn USB Debugging OFF
Turn USB Debugging ON
Turn USB Debugging OFF
All BEFORE it says "Waiting for device..." again
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where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
georg2010 said:
Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
Trozzul said:
Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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SuperOneClick 2.3.3. worked at first try.
Installing ClockworkMod now.
Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
georg2010 said:
Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
Trozzul said:
i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
5) Press the “Flash Clockworkmod Recovery” option
6) Popup appears, asking for your device; select “LGE Optimus One”
7) Another popup will appear giving two options for the basebands:
- LG Optimus One (This is for new baseband)
- LG Optimus One (Old BB) (This is for old baseband)
I would advise you to select Old BB recovery as its more stable; new baseband may result in semi-brick (Personal Experience)
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So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
georg2010 said:
I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
Trozzul said:
Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
georg2010 said:
Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
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Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
as for your SD card problems, i don't know much about partitioning SD cards i don't do much of that. i think Gingerbread (2.3.X or CM7.X) and down had some weird SD card problems and limited taking apps to the SD card, android 4.0.X and up changed and you had more options but Apps were allowed to dump files everywhere onto your SD card making a mess (this is normally through all android versions Except Kitkat 4.4.x lots of people don't mind it but there are others who like it neat) kitkat fixed this and if i remember right kinda broke our way of making apps go to the SD card, you would have to look that up. i would recommend getting a 4.2.X or 4.3.X rom, personally my favorite versions of android. kitkat was not very impressive, if you don't see any of those just Test 4.0.X roms and up until you get something that is enjoyable. i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
as for your last question, its not that your phone is not officially compatible its because of your android version, i did some research and threema requires ICS 4.0.X and up so if you want to use this app you need to flash a ics or higher rom. remember every time you want to flash a rom, backup, wipe data, wipe cache, flash rom then gapps. i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol). if you get stuck please reply back.
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just ignore me
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Sorry i cant, its against rules to spam to get past the 10 post limit and make you look bad.
Trozzul said:
Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
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The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
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Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol)
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Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
georg2010 said:
The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
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the original Stock launcher for Cyanogenmod 7 and below was a launcher called ADW launcher, the company or person who made it tends to try to make it as stock android as possible and honestly the version cyanogenmod 7 came with was not very good. i dont think launchers cant be moved to the sd card but widgets sure cant.
your right, you cant pick any rom you want, it has to be specifically built for your own. cyanogenmod is not the only rom type. most of the time unofficial roms will be built upon cyanogenmod or other roms. there are a few others on some newer phones but cyanogenmod is the stablest and if its official updates on bugs come faster. if you want to find more roms, here on xda you always want to go here for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-one/one-development for roms kernels and other modifications.
honestly if you were to find a used Galaxy s2 the specs would be perfectly fine. all variants have a great development community going and should for the new few android versions. what carrier do you have? i would try to get a T989 T-mobile s2 like myself, its pretty great though its a 4.5" ich screen vs your 3.2" screen its not too big, probably the only problem i have with it is the resolution is not the best. a motorola G would be a great replacement aswell, better specs than the s2 (its very close to a s3 benchmark) same screen size and i think it has a better resolution.
as for today's standards you Are paying for image, paying for the brand name (like alienware and dell computers), back then it used to be Hardware, the Nexus one used to have the Best phone specs when it was released. if you look at benchmarks, the Galaxy s4 vs the s5 there is not much of a difference. i myself am interested in the oneplus one device but the only problem is that invite system. im also thinking of grabing a LG L90, great price for its specs which are the same as the moto g so pretty much as close to a s3.
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
what carrier do you have?
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O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
georg2010 said:
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
Trozzul said:
be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
georg2010 said:
Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
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i cant sugesst you a rom because i dont own the phone, i could look through the forums and show you one to test out but thats about it, 4.2.X and 4.3.X have just minor ui updates that can come in handy, just test a bunch of 4.1.X and 4.2.X and you can see the difference, i think 4.2.X added camera to the lockscreen and dropdown status bar different ui. you can check here to see some of the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history