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CM7 vs EagleBlood

I have a big question that is been floating around in my mind.
We have CM7 which is based on ginngerbread and we got Eagle blood 1.03 which is gingerbread as well.
Why does it seems like eagle blood developers seems to develop way faster and have a more stable rom than CM7?
Is it because they had to port gingerbread to the G2x? If that its the case, wouldn't it be easier to grab the gingerbread leak and develop using that as the source?
eagle blood is from gingerbread leak and cyanogen isn't?
Also does it takes longer for CM7 to develop because they are adding more features to the ROM?
The reason I'm asking is because I had this questions and is nothing against CM7 directly at all, I just want to understand how they are doing it and see the benefits.
Thanks
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Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.

regP said:
Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak.
Cyanodenmod is build from the ground up using the AOSP source code.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Once they get the device-specific stuff ironed out, feature updates can be added easily across multiple devices.

For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.

moshe22 said:
That clears up some of my doubts.
So basically they are using a gingerbread AOSP from google?
And what are the advantages of doing it this way instead of just grabbing a leaked ROM and tweak it.
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Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.

r4d14n7 said:
For example, if you look at the CM7 changelog the unlabeled changes are to all GB devices and the entries labeled "p999" are changes specific to this device.
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Oh good to know, thanks
regP said:
Better performance. Manufactures ROMs often end up with bad coding which results in a device suffering from things such as bad battery life, lower performance, etc. Also with official ROMs you can't do much with it until they release the source code. And even then (at least with samsung) some things like driver source never get released which means the devs cant fully optimize the ROM. AOSP means full control over the ROM to make it do what you want it to do the way you want it to be done. It does take much longer to complete though which is why CM has nightly updates. Makes it easier to put out a nightly than to put out a whole new ROM for every bug they fix. I'm sure someone can explain this better than me.
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Wow, this really answers my question as to why it takes them longer. Thanks
So it means that cyanogen even develop their own drivers?
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You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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I must disagree. I LOVE CM 7 and ran build 11 and 13 and found it rather buggy right now. Sometimes the touch screen didn't recognize touches on the right side(I consider this a significant bug). When you call a number and have to punch in numbers (like a VM password or when dialing an extension) did not work for me(which I consider another significant bug). I also heard there are issues with it sticking APN settings(cant comment because I didnt really check that when I had cm 7 installed) I just dont think cm 7 is stable enough at the moment. Eagle Blood is running pretty well right now. I would say a lot better than cm 7 but that will change once CM gets the bugs worked out

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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Yes, personal experience. Been running eb 1.02 and is been great.
I Just flashed CM7 #15 just to test it out and is buggy for me
-When i receive a call i don't get any sound from the ringer even though is not muted
-Sensors are like in auto brightness even though they are not
-The performance of the whole system isn't the best.
I am sure it will be the best ROM out there but as for now still only and nightly and is buggy
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One significant difference for me, which is due to the fact that Cyanogen has built their own rom with their different bluetooth stacks (as opposed to LG's custom ones), is that bluetooth controllers actually work with CM7. Useful for using a wiimote on emulators through HDMI
Just something to consider, no bluetooth controllers on EB.
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regP said:
Eagle Blood is based on the existing gingerbread leak with added tweaks.
Cyanodenmod is build completely from the ground up using the AOSP source code. It has features not found in ROMs released by manufacturers.
It's like modding an engine vs building an engine.
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Right, and not only that, cyanogen has many different phones he and his dev team have to work on.
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Build #16 is out today and supposedly the TouchTones in the dialer and the backlight is fixed (thank god!)
But yes. Cyanogen builds their own kernel and drivers, which is why it usually is more compatible with stuff like WiiMotes and stuff. But once they get the Kernel working properly (which they are doing now) it is just a matter of updating the core OS then it can be pushed to all devices pretty seamlessly (I guess).
There are lots of benefits of using CM over standard stock Gingerbread. For one, Stock is 2.3.3 where CM7 is 2.3.4 so it supports lots of Googles new apps like Video in Google Talk and the new Cloud Music player.
Also there are tons of tweaks like Notification menu toggles, System Themes, Sound Profiles, Black-List calling, Several Lockscreen types and Widgets with Gesture support, etc the list goes on and on.
Between the Notification Toggles and Themes which you can install from the market, I'm hooked.
Plus it is the only Gingerbread rom that doesn't cause my phone to lockup/reset/Black Screen of Death/whateveryoucallit

MWBehr said:
You mentioned that you feel eaglesblood is more stable than CM7. Is this from personal experience or from reading the forums? In my experience, CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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It has tons of bugs like inaccurate battery readings
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my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.

MWBehr said:
CM7 as of around nightly #11 has every significant bug worked out.
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u must be high

jdaclutch said:
my concern is that is the g2x able to do 1080p video recording and high resolution picture like the stock rom? THis is the only reson why I'm still sticking with the stock rom.
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+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.

r4d14n7 said:
+1. I take a lot of photos and videos of my kids and would rather stick with 2.2 than have a gimped camera.
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Yeah, i take alot of pictures and videos too
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HellFire Sandwich v 1.2 vs EaglesBlood™ICS 4.0.3

HellFire Sandwich v 1.2 vs EaglesBlood™ICS 4.0.3
what the best ICS room for G2X ?
tnx

No one can really tell you which is best, as it's all relative. They are both good so try them both out and decide what works best for you. I, personally, don't like these "which one is best" threads as it can be demeaning to the devs. They all work hard and they all deserve equal respect. You can't possibly know which one you like better unless you try them both/all

ala380 said:
No one can really tell you which is best, as it's all relative. They are both good so try them both out and decide what works best for you. I, personally, don't like these "which one is best" threads as it can be demeaning to the devs. They all work hard and they all deserve equal respect. You can't possibly know which one you like better unless you try them both/all
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+1 to this... also each rom acts differently on each phone... so try them both and see for yourself

Both of them need more improvements in order to become stable ROMs.

tthaz86 said:
Both of them need more improvements in order to become stable ROMs.
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Ive have ran HFS 1.2 for 5 days now with no issues and not any FC's other then the HWA issues... bat is great and its a great alpha build for a 'daily driver' even tho its not branded as such, yet...

HellFire ICS 4.0.3
BIG THANKS to everyone who is involved from the USB drivers to the ROOTers to the ROM kings.
Downloaded this ROM and after several hours for the FIRST TIME EVER, rooted my G2X, installed CWM, installed this ROM and the GAPPS. Sweet, no I feel so much LESS amateurish.
First BOOT didn't take as long as I thought it would. SHUTDOWN and STARTUP (POWER-UP) are WAY faster than they were on 2.3.3.
Below are OBSERVATIONS not complaints:
I am not a developer, just a user. The interface is really cool (for lack of more technical terms). Video playback is REALLY CHOPPY when it was smooth on 2.3.3. and many of the videos won't even play. The other DOWNSIDE is my BATTERY is DEAD as HELL, been charging for 2 hours already and still only at 80%, with 2.3.3 the battery (which is extended life) would last for a day and a half.
I am in the process of downloading the EAGLES BLOOD version to make my own comparisons. From what I am reading both these ROMs need work BUT I don't know anything about that.
WHAT IS REALLY COOL is that LG doesn't even have ICS in the pipe for G2X yet and now it's on my phone - SWEET.
I so look forward to future updates and ROMs to keep us less talented in the GAME. Thanks again, Mark
AND Now I have SuperUser rights - don't know what that means yet either but I will try to learn!

RhynoNJ said:
BIG THANKS to everyone who is involved from the USB drivers to the ROOTers to the ROM kings.
Downloaded this ROM and after several hours for the FIRST TIME EVER, rooted my G2X, installed CWM, installed this ROM and the GAPPS. Sweet, no I feel so much LESS amateurish.
First BOOT didn't take as long as I thought it would. SHUTDOWN and STARTUP (POWER-UP) are WAY faster than they were on 2.3.3.
Below are OBSERVATIONS not complaints:
I am not a developer, just a user. The interface is really cool (for lack of more technical terms). Video playback is REALLY CHOPPY when it was smooth on 2.3.3. and many of the videos won't even play. The other DOWNSIDE is my BATTERY is DEAD as HELL, been charging for 2 hours already and still only at 80%, with 2.3.3 the battery (which is extended life) would last for a day and a half.
I am in the process of downloading the EAGLES BLOOD version to make my own comparisons. From what I am reading both these ROMs need work BUT I don't know anything about that.
WHAT IS REALLY COOL is that LG doesn't even have ICS in the pipe for G2X yet and now it's on my phone - SWEET.
I so look forward to future updates and ROMs to keep us less talented in the GAME. Thanks again, Mark
AND Now I have SuperUser rights - don't know what that means yet either but I will try to learn!
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You'll find them to be pretty similar. Video playback is a known issue for all ICS roms and will likely persist as an issue for a long time (quite possibly until we have a release/source from T-Mobile/LG). Also, you'll notice that some apps don't work too well yet (basically same issue as video playback).
Outside of that, the share the same source, but HFS v1.2 was build more recently, and therefor has the newest commits from Arcee. This includes things like setting data limits and switching storage between internal and external SD. Hell also baked in a facebook sync patch that may or may not be working for people (I haven't tried it, but heard some people had problems).
Further outside of that, each developer has added their own style to the rom. I believe, however, that Eaglesblood isn't due to get the majority of the customization that the other EB roms enjoy until the next release.
Hope that helps.

Daniel1411 said:
HellFire Sandwich v 1.2 vs EaglesBlood™ICS 4.0.3
what the best ICS room for G2X ?
tnx
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Right now none of the ICS ROMs are finished, so just use a GB ROM if you're new to flashing.

da-pharoah said:
+1 to this... also each rom acts differently on each phone... so try them both and see for yourself
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Agreed!
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hellfire sandwich 1.2
I've been using it for a few days and seems very stable no FC yet but I would a reboot at least once a day.

I've been debating on which ICS rom to go with (still on CM7 now)
Probably go with Hellfire because they are on the cusp of a new release, and it's apparently very good.

Luvin the EB ICS
Been using the eb ics for two days now. It doesn't seem to consume as much battery as my previous rom (GB Weapon G2x) and that was a really good rom. Had to change to ics because i seemed to be having reboot issues and I longed for ics.
So far been having a few force closes but am still breaking it in. Seem to be having battery calibration problems as well, but i will give it time. I would say try them all. Max respect to the devs.

I had EB and the 'Music' kept stopping. I installed HF and have not had 1 error.

Well first off, ICS ROMs for this phone are not finished yet and will give you many stability issues and compatibility issues. That being said, you won't know which one you like more unless you try out both of them for yourself.

blueeydtexan said:
I've been using it for a few days and seems very stable no FC yet but I would a reboot at least once a day.
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You can't even use your camera, and there is no media acceleration.
So, no, it is not at all stable.
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MWBehr said:
Outside of that, the share the same source, but HFS v1.2 was build more recently, and therefor has the newest commits from Arcee. This includes things like setting data limits and switching storage between internal and external SD. Hell also baked in a facebook sync patch that may or may not be working for people (I haven't tried it, but heard some people had problems).
Further outside of that, each developer has added their own style to the rom. I believe, however, that Eaglesblood isn't due to get the majority of the customization that the other EB roms enjoy until the next release.
Hope that helps.
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I was using Hellfire Sandwich v1.2 which has the facebook patch. The facebook patch works great. I had no problem with facebook. I loved it but where I work I don't get good cell reception and wifi calling doesn't work all the time.
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IRASadPanda said:
You can't even use your camera, and there is no media acceleration.
So, no, it is not at all stable.
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I used HFS v1.2 for 2-3 weeks and the camera works perfectly fine. No problems with the camera FC. It will only force close if you try to take video with it. Hardware acceleration is also fixed for v1.2. HFS v1.2 was perfectly stable except for the FC on video and random drop outs on wifi calling.

Imagine if LG released the drivers... ICS would be working perfectly :/
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Been using Hellfire Sandwich since release. Here is my run down of what I see.
-Speed is good.
-Memory management works well but will cause FC because of more running processes then allowed.
-Paired with setCPU profiles I get insane battery life.Better then GB.
-Browser issues with flickering when rotating between portrait and landscape. Dolphin will FC as well.
-Bluetooth will drop out sometimes. Unsure if this is the phone or my headset.
-Browser does have video playback issue. YouTube and Netflix app works fine.
-No Widgets? Or I'm doing it wrong.
-No issues with any of my usual apps.
All I can think of at the moment. I use my phone casually for games and browsing.

skataneric said:
Been using Hellfire Sandwich since release. Here is my run down of what I see.
-Speed is good.
-Memory management works well but will cause FC because of more running processes then allowed.
-Paired with setCPU profiles I get insane battery life.Better then GB.
-Browser issues with flickering when rotating between portrait and landscape. Dolphin will FC as well.
-Bluetooth will drop out sometimes. Unsure if this is the phone or my headset.
-Browser does have video playback issue. YouTube and Netflix app works fine.
-No Widgets? Or I'm doing it wrong.
-No issues with any of my usual apps.
All I can think of at the moment. I use my phone casually for games and browsing.
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no widgets? you should always be able to use widgets. But remember with ICS you have to get widgets by scrolling to the right in the apps drawer. I can't get netflix to work..dunno how you got that..the sound works but not the video. youtube works fine.

My Review
As a normal user I can say Hellfire ICS is much better then EB's. In the aspect of
Speed is way better.
Less Laggs while opening apps
Faster browsing then EB's
Stucking issue is less in Hellfire
In short Hellfire's ICS :good: is faster then EagleBlood's as per me... (a normal user not a dev)

[Q] HellFire Sandwich vs EAGLESBLOOD ICS AOSP

Which rom is more stable atm? I know hellfire sandwich is based on cm9 source from arcee, who released his APLHA code.......apparently that alpha source code of his had fair amount of bugs (Although I am not sure how many of it is fixed/worked around in HFS, can someone compile a list of know issues for hellfire sandwich for me if that isnt too much work? )
According to EBICS, they had the rom built from aosp, isnt that supposed to be cleaner with less issues? On top of that, nvidia just released the tegra sdk i believe.....should we expect some major performance improvement/bug fixes in the near future for both of the rom?
what do you guys think?

First, nobodies going to give a list of what does and doesnt work, just read the last 5-10 pages of the thread, and the first post and youll get an idea of what does and does not work.
Second, HFS is simply a tweaked version of arcee's CM9 (with bugfixes and other things in there as well). EB-ICS is AOSP, that means it's source code is a HEAVILY modified version of stock android 4.0.4. (this does not include the things like RIL and other things that they borrowed from CM9 to get the rom working) EB-ICS may also have many of their own mods that bring alot of the customization and functionality of CM9 back, but it will not have most of the CM9 settings your used to.
Its honestly just up to opinion at this point. i cant tell you which is more stable, youll most likely have to try them out for yourself.
also, NVIDIA DID NOT RELEASE THE SOURCE CODE YET!
that was just a version for a tegra development kit, and we cannot use any part of it for our phones, because the chips are different.
Hope that helps

AWWWWWW!!!!
And thank you for your help

EaglesBlood felt like it was faster to me. I went from HFS 1.4 to the CM9 based EB to EB AOSP to HFS 1.6. I probably like EB more, but HFS has some tweaks that make it a slightly more enjoyable experience.
They're both great, though. As soon as a new build of EB is released, I'll go back to that and probably just hop back and forth between ROMs between builds.

+1 for Eaglesblood
I'm using Eaglesblood AOSP 5.5 and it is definitely more stable on my G2x than HFS 1.9 was. Hellfire Sandwich was not very responsive, and crashed and rebooted a lot (although at the time I had the old baseband). I would go with Eaglesblood hands down.

In my experience on my G2x, Eaglesblood ICS performs like ****. Hellfire Sandwich works great. EB always makes the phone unresponsive for a few minutes after I turn wireless on. I assume it's something to do with all the apps updating and syncing at once, but I never have this problem with HF. I have to reboot the phone at least once every 48 hours or the alarm clock stops working. I'll sit there and watch it pass the time it is supposed to go off and it doesn't (This has resulted in me missing an early morning class - NOT happy). Various apps crash more often on EB, and sometimes it seems as if the whole OS crashes, when the app disappears and the launcher is also gone.

My own personal experience, Hellfire anything over EGB anything. Whether ICS or GB.
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From my personal experiences, I would have to suggest Temasek's GB ROM (build 135.1) for your GB Pleasures, and TonyP's ParanoidAndriod JB Flavored ICS Build 11, or Genesis ICS 8/1/12 Build. Both rock the ICS world.
I can't use any ICS build currently, as I depend on WiFi calling to be mostly stable for me, and I have found that only in the GB Roms at this time.

What ICS ROM do you like best???

I know this has been done many time let try to help each other along with the kind developers. The ones I know about are Eagles Blood, Genesis, Hellfire Sandwich, and Owain's UNOFFICIAL BUILD.
If you know of more list them. If you like one VS the other list it and explain why and compared to what. List what you do not like about each one as well. Lists of likes and dislikes.
If one Rom has one thing working and another Rom dose not maybe this could help the developers.
thanks

How about you try them out for yourself and see which one works best for you?

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iArtisan said:
How about you try them out for yourself and see which one works best for you?
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I have tried all 4. The point is to get ideas flowing. What problems you have on one VS the other. What you like on one VS the other. facts VS Opinion.

I personally like Owain's UNOFFICIAL BUILD, he consistently updates taking in everyone's comments. I've tried Eagles Blood, and Hellfire Sandwich and I feel I have the most freedom with Owain's. I don't believe Eagles Blood has updated their ICS Rom since March and Hellfire Sandwich you can't edit the lock screen apps
If I was incorrect with anything sorry I might have just not seen it when I had them on my phone

I personally like resurrection remix rom.

bluey45 said:
I personally like resurrection remix rom.
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I haven't seen that one yet

Blackinferno91 said:
I personally like Owain's UNOFFICIAL BUILD, he consistently updates taking in everyone's comments. I've tried Eagles Blood, and Hellfire Sandwich and I feel I have the most freedom with Owain's. I don't believe Eagles Blood has updated their ICS Rom since March and Hellfire Sandwich you can't edit the lock screen apps
If I was incorrect with anything sorry I might have just not seen it when I had them on my phone
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Eaglesblood's AOSP pre-release is downloadable since about 5 hours ago. There's supposed to be another release today/tomorrow.
For the pre-release (my observations - do not generalize!!!):
*NO WiFi
*Lock screen seems to be off its normal position - it has the unlock/dial/messages/camera, but the camera is somewhere under the screen (?!?!) and I didn't even know it's there until someone pointed it out.
*Battery life seems pretty bad FOR ME. I had about 90% when I flashed the ROM last night. I only installed APEX launcher, Google maps, Dolphin HD, and updated ROM Manager and did a bit of browsing and messed around with some settings - not more than 30 mins. I also set the alarm to ring in about 5 hours. Surprise, surprise: the phone was dead when I woke up because its battery had dies - hopefully the release coming today/tomorrow will fix that.
*Stock browser doesn't work for me. It shows some all black or all white screen and sometimes just quits. That's why I installed Dolphin that fixes the problems.
*Google maps sometimes turns all grey. It's still there I can zoom in and out and use all the functions but I can't see them. I have to restart it - sometimes multiple time to get it back to work.
THE LAST TWO BULLETS have been common for me in all ICS ROMs I've used (EGB AOSP, Hellfire Sandwich, Genesis) and these are the main reason ICS is cannot remain my daily driver. I keep going back to Miui.

bluey45 said:
I personally like resurrection remix rom.
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the rom is for samsung s2 i taught the thread is about lg g2x?

I've been using HFS for my daily. It's pretty stable and quick, and it just works. (for me anyway).
Owain's seems really innovative, but it just had too many issues for the time being. I may come back to that one on a later date when more things get ironed out.
In the meantime, I'm awaiting the release of HSF.8

mariuscm said:
Eaglesblood's AOSP pre-release is downloadable since about 5 hours ago. There's supposed to be another release today/tomorrow.
For the pre-release (my observations - do not generalize!!!):
*NO WiFi
*Lock screen seems to be off its normal position - it has the unlock/dial/messages/camera, but the camera is somewhere under the screen (?!?!) and I didn't even know it's there until someone pointed it out.
*Battery life seems pretty bad FOR ME. I had about 90% when I flashed the ROM last night. I only installed APEX launcher, Google maps, Dolphin HD, and updated ROM Manager and did a bit of browsing and messed around with some settings - not more than 30 mins. I also set the alarm to ring in about 5 hours. Surprise, surprise: the phone was dead when I woke up because its battery had dies - hopefully the release coming today/tomorrow will fix that.
*Stock browser doesn't work for me. It shows some all black or all white screen and sometimes just quits. That's why I installed Dolphin that fixes the problems.
*Google maps sometimes turns all grey. It's still there I can zoom in and out and use all the functions but I can't see them. I have to restart it - sometimes multiple time to get it back to work.
THE LAST TWO BULLETS have been common for me in all ICS ROMs I've used (EGB AOSP, Hellfire Sandwich, Genesis) and these are the main reason ICS is cannot remain my daily driver. I keep going back to Miui.
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Okay for me it's like i've tested every ics rom for g2x out there except genesis.
hellfire: it's a good rom but has some data drop issues didn't try it with harsh kernel yet may be on 1.8 coming soon.
eagleblood: 4.0.4 using it right now not bad smooth but few issues camera is 5m pix the gps is awful keeps on droping signal not battery percent option. data is perfect thou no drop ,
cm9 euroskank: this was the best rom i had up until they started updating it every update had issues no data at all no sound on the latest best was 1.3
right now i'm going to try hang v63 cz hopefully it's better i love the harsh kernel thanks the team that build it.

I've been running EB AOSP since the beginning, I love it.. All the ics problem I haven't really noticed.. The rom is super fast and snappy.. I don't take pics with the stock camera so the 5mp doesn't bother me.. I picked up fxcamera when it was 50 cents on the market.. Just no video recording.. But that's with all ics roms.. I've tried the others here on xda and they all seem very laggy to me.. I don't know why.. And too I'm like the stock feel of EB ics with apex launcher I'm happy
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i like hfs but my mms or web doesnt work its not the rom fault really its my provider outdated apn settings -_-(simple mobile)its so smooth fell in love with the first use

I've tried them all out myself. I used hfs for the longest because of how stable it was. Had to do the occasional reboot, but nothing major. I started using Genesis with harsh kernel a couple of days ago, and must say I am really impressed. I've had a couple of random reboots that wasn't normal with hfs, but I'm digging everything else. I just wish someone would fix the major camera issue! I'm a little ROM happy as I work for TMobile and am always trying to keep on the up and up. Hell, I'll try anything as long as it doesn't fry my beloved G2x!
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im still using original CM9 that cm_acree made (and haven't seen updated). is owains the best stock ICS rom?

joeyxl said:
im still using original CM9 that cm_acree made (and haven't seen updated). is owains the best stock ICS rom?
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Do you not use your phone? I'm on owain and its (plain) but good nonetheless, if eb releases today (they plan too) then flash that though.
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I'm totally happy with the Genesis ROM with harsh kernel, i try hellfire but like the way i can set my phone with Genesis with aroma... wait to see wat hell's doing with it's .8 version with aroma

I flashed from stock GB 2.3.4 (after downgrading my BB) yesterday with EB 4.0.4 (5/20 nightly) and have been surprised with it.
I'm having some issues with the sim , can't read my number or VM number and a strange issue with mobile data after a service dead spot (like on the subway) but a reboot corrects that....
All and all a good ics experience
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I have running Hellfire Sandwich 1.7 (dirty) since it was released to the public and it is a extremely good rom and its also very smooth and fast... Its even faster when it is combined with the Harsh Kernel P999
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I personally love AOKP. It's probably the smoothest and most stock 4.0.4 rom i've ever used. It has big support and a nice website with everything you need. It also has a simple rom control and theme manager in the settings and that's it. No other cluttered crap. I love the continuing updates and support. I haven't experienced one force close or overheat yet with this one. It's a keeper. [:

I don't like ANY of the ICS ROM's that are out currently. Until LG/nVidia releases the drivers for the tegra2 and G2X, I won't be pleased with what's out there.

Why are ICS roms so popular

Hey everyone,
This isn't a technical question is an opinion question. Why are ICS roms so popular when there are so many things like native video recording and hardware acceleration are missing (do to drivers). I see that development is moving quickly with ICS yet Gingerbread has slowed way down. CM7 is still going strong but roms based on stock releases are, practically, dead. I just wanted to see what the opinions are in terms of switching over to ICS as opposed to using a fully functional rom.

ICS is what everyone wants, and wishes for. CM7 is about as good as its going to get (besides ironing out the kinks like BT and little things) stock is at its finest pretty much. Cm9 ICS is exciting and very nice looking. AOKP's customization possibilities are awesome give the phone a whole new look that make friends jealous (specifically iPhone friends lol).
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I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.

ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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lovenokia said:
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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in what way, lol?

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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I second this...latest and greatest but at the cost functionality...then they complain about things not working properly *sigh*
I'm using CM 7 and don't have any issues...I do flash kernels and am using faux's b5...pretty awesome...can't wait to try harshs CM 7 kernel
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Another GB CM7 user here. ICS is the latest & shiny toy, so everyone focuses on that. Almost all apps work on GB, and uses less resources. Plus since ICS & CM9 are more recent, there's more bugs to fix so the perceived "development" going on.
I do use ICS keyboard app & the ICS Roboto font, but don't like the low-contrast blue on black ICS color scheme.

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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+1
Exactly my thoughts!
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.

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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.

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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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It has the support, but is it available for our phone? And what's the point without gpu drivers.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
Whyzor said:
Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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Thanks for the interview link, it's great to have a brief inside "peek" of the person behind the scenes.
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Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.

ics
google put a lot of work into making ics a lot more polished, obviously they can't make the design appeal to everybody so the only way you can really tell if you will like it better than gb is to try it, I recommend the hellfire sandwich rom, it is by far the most stable and complete rom, and we are looking at linaro in the next build which means that it is 100% faster than stock android
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urfate said:
Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
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hellfire sandwich pg 502, hfs already supports new bb

I use stock rooted with the new baseband and its extremely stable
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i too updated the baseband and love the new stock 2.3.4, but i also like running the latest cm7, everything just works (well except for BT right now LOL)
better battery life and video are the reasons i stay on GB, but i do love ICS and flash it all the time when someone releases a new version (Genesis and Eaglesblood are the ones i use)

in ICS i really like the chrome browser and task manager when you hold home. the rest is about the same but i get a little better battery with EB build2 and i just changed to HFS so hopefully it keeps the better battery.
there is also hardware support just not in the menu menu, flash and openGL are supported.