Get serious hot and battery life is horrible - HTC Sensation

Got an Sensation which has been running ARHD since the day after i bought it.
The first day i got it i held the phone when my hans were full of diesel, so the screen some small marks from the wet diesel. Didnt do anything with the functions of the phone. Unless that, the phone turns off sometimes. Dont know if this is rom related, as i went to ARHD the day after i bought it
That was just to explain everything thats happend to the phone. This was when i bought it, had it for a year now i think, and its been smooth!
But the last weeks its been a real pain in the ass!!
When using it, and when im not using it, sometimes it gets really hot. I'ts always gotten hot when using it hard, normal hot, but this is different.
It gets so hot on the lower part of the phone (back and front), that its actually HOT to touch.
So hot that is smells warm plastic, just like it does before it melts
And the battery is horrible, im 99% it because of the heat, or a combination.
For instance, the phone last about 8-12 hours, IF I DONT USE IT?
Like now, the phone was at 100%, was on internet for 2 minutes exactly, and sendt 1 text, the battery is now down to 82%.
I reset battery stats yesterday, stil same issue.
The heat and battery problem occured for a couple of weeks ago, and havent been this way before.
The battery gets hot also, but i dont know if its the heat transfered from the phone, or if the battery transfers the heat to the phone.
Also when the phone turns off, i get the blinking orange light when i try to charge it, sometimes it wont charge at all.
And when battery is below 40-50% the phone acts all wierd, for example:
-When taking a photo, the phone turns off after the picture is taken
-Cant listen to spotify, changes songs every 5 secound, and calls the last person i called all the time automaticly
-When i try to call people, it turns the phone off.
Phone specs now, and for the last 3 months is
ARHD 3,6,3
Kernel: 2.6.35.14-Sensation-faux123-v0.2.3b+
Radio: 10.56.9035.00U-10.14.9035.01_M
Any ida? Im going to try with a mate's battery to see if its the batterys fault
I've also thought about contacting HTC, maybe it could be a warranty case.
But since the phone has some small wet marks behind the screen, ill guess they just blame it on that?

pls dont take this as a promotion, i just wanna help you, as i felt the same thing with you when using gb roms, very hot and fast battery drain
ppl that have been using blitz5 or blaze 2 have said they got pretty good batt life ( u can see for ur self in some of the rom threads) with HTC stock kernel, it might help you mate, and it doesnt get hot quite easily too (very hard to get hot) if ur using HTC stock kernel which comes out with it, which infact is already smooth as, so no need for unlocked kernels

thelegendarylegends said:
pls dont take this as a promotion, i just wanna help you, as i felt the same thing with you when using gb roms,
ppl that have been using blitz5 or blaze 2 have said they got pretty good batt life ( u can see for ur self in some of the rom threads) with HTC stock kernel, it might help you mate, and it doesnt get hot quite easily too (very hard to get hot) if ur using HTC stock kernel which comes out with it, which infact is already smooth as, so no need for unlocked kernels
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WTH is wrong with you? YOU ARE promoting your ROM , if you cant help him dont post at all. I'm sick of your useless posts that only advertise your ROM
OP it looks like a you have serious hardware problems, its maybe the diesel that got inside or you sensation was defective from the start BUT no software will be able to fix that . Moreover, I suggest you replace it or ask HTC for a replacement (if you still have the warranty ) its dangerous to carry that phone around , your battery might explode

Pikabat said:
WTH is wrong with you? YOU ARE promoting your ROM , if you cant help him dont post at all. I'm sick of your useless posts that only advertise your ROM
OP it looks like a you have serious hardware problems, its maybe the diesel that got inside or you sensation was defective from the start BUT no software will be able to fix that . Moreover, I suggest you replace it or ask HTC for a replacement (if you still have the warranty ) its dangerous to carry that phone around , your battery might explode
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mate, please. I dont want to debate this over and over again especially on a thread posted by a guy who needs help.
Im saying, maybe he can give it a try as it might help his battery drainage problem and overheating, that I too face when i used to use GB roms. ( I seriously mean this because i seriously faced this prob before, and i think ICS will fix his issue)
Please, im just trying to give a suggestion and if u think that wasnt a suggestion/help for the OP to maybe fix the batt issue, u should go f urself mate,
im tired of reading ppl saying this and that towards my posts, even though im giving a suggestion to a guy that needs help in regarding battery issue,
pls, idont wanna debate a bout this unnecessary stuff again, lets stay on topic

Go back to the original stock rom the phone came with.
If your getting overheating issues with stock, then chances are there is something wrong with it.

Arthur Hucksake said:
Go back to the original stock rom the phone came with.
If your getting overheating issues with stock, then chances are there is something wrong with it.
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it definitely seems like a hardware issue but then again, a different rom with an upgraded android OS can solve the issue. But as for the battery life, I bought the ANKER battery which has more capacity compared to the stock battery and the size of the ANKER battery is the same as the stock, so it won't make your phone bulky at all, nor would it require for you to get a new back cover

Pikabat said:
WTH is wrong with you? YOU ARE promoting your ROM , if you cant help him dont post at all. I'm sick of your useless posts that only advertise your ROM
OP it looks like a you have serious hardware problems, its maybe the diesel that got inside or you sensation was defective from the start BUT no software will be able to fix that . Moreover, I suggest you replace it or ask HTC for a replacement (if you still have the warranty ) its dangerous to carry that phone around , your battery might explode
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Useless posts? The only useless posts I see is yours...His posts and his PMs helped me so much. I'm sure I can find hundreds of people that will agree that he is a great help anywhere he posts And he clearly stated that he is not promoting his rom.
Have a good day and forget about this negativity!
PS: I had heating issues with insertcoin 4.5.4...The weird thing is that it came all of a sudden. I've been using it for 10 days and no heating issues. But today it overheated and drained 50% of the battery

Hi this is a long shot but I think your problem might be spotify...
I am running same ROM as you, and have been experiencing similar issues since getting spotify. I also found out that spotify isn't actually officially supported on our phones.
When did u get spotify? like I said this is a long shot, could just be a coincidence.

beston94 said:
Useless posts? The only useless posts I see is yours...His posts and his PMs helped me so much. I'm sure I can find hundreds of people that will agree that he is a great help anywhere he posts And he clearly stated that he is not promoting his rom.
Have a good day and forget about this negativity!
PS: I had heating issues with insertcoin 4.5.4...The weird thing is that it came all of a sudden. I've been using it for 10 days and no heating issues. But today it overheated and drained 50% of the battery
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dont feed the trolls

I've had this happen twice with my stock 02 UK Sensation in the 3 months i owned it and it has happend once with the replacement Sensation they issued because of a screen fault.
when it happens, the phone will get quite hot to the touch fairly quickly, even when on standby and the battery will drop dramatically. Taking the battery out and letting it all cool down fixs it.
I have had this with the stock battery and also with an anker battery on the new device.
It never feels like it is going to get hot enough to burn, but it does get worryingly hot.
This also happend maybe 2 or 3 times in 18 months with my HD2 - that was also stock.

Pikabat said:
WTH is wrong with you? YOU ARE promoting your ROM , if you cant help him dont post at all. I'm sick of your useless posts that only advertise your ROM
OP it looks like a you have serious hardware problems, its maybe the diesel that got inside or you sensation was defective from the start BUT no software will be able to fix that . Moreover, I suggest you replace it or ask HTC for a replacement (if you still have the warranty ) its dangerous to carry that phone around , your battery might explode
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Even if it was promoting (which it's not), what's wrong with promoting a successful rom that people actually are saying they're battery life is improved? It's not like OP is signing a contract that they'll stay on a certain rom. The OP can try the rom, and if it doesn't work, can remove it and try something else.

I use battery drain analyzer to see how fast my drain is..
The problems OP describe seems to be faced by me too. I can last 8-12 hours without using it and mobile network on.
A little bit of multi work, switichong between apps causes my phone to heat up and battery drain shoots sky rocket with up to 2% per min!
Cause of this, no chance for me to play games without a charger as 30 minutes of game could just deplete my entire battery.
Does this really seems like hardware related?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

sshede said:
Even if it was promoting (which it's not), what's wrong with promoting a successful rom that people actually are saying they're battery life is improved? It's not like OP is signing a contract that they'll stay on a certain rom. The OP can try the rom, and if it doesn't work, can remove it and try something else.
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I dont really wanna continue this debate and change the subject of this thread but his attitude towards others and the community annoy me. I cant explain why but to me he is like that Best Buy employee who tires to sell you additional warranty service or a gold high Def cable
I think if someone want to say something they should say it directly without all the crap like "It may sound like I'm promoting my ROM but I'm not...."
On topic, it seems OP didnt respond to the thread yet but as others have suggested maybe he should try a different battery, that might help to eliminate "faulty phone" theory

Pikabat said:
I dont really wanna continue this debate and change the subject of this thread but his attitude towards others and the community annoy me. I cant explain why but to me he is like that Best Buy employee who tires to sell you additional warranty service or a gold high Def cable
I think if someone want to say something they should say it directly without all the crap like "It may sound like I'm promoting my ROM but I'm not...."
On topic, it seems OP didnt respond to the thread yet but as others have suggested maybe he should try a different battery, that might help to eliminate "faulty phone" theory
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Mate, I think Ur ridiculous. U just said u don't wanna debate but u just put me down with more than a half of Ur post, pls mate. I just wanted to help him that's all, if u dot mind, how the hell am I promoting something I won't even got back in anyway? Doesn't make sense. I don't even have donation link yet, mate. It doesnt make sense. Ur putting me down of just bcos I suggest the guys to try my Rom becos it has got some good results that's all. Ur pathetic.
Too many haters in this forum I can't stand anymore. Ur ridiculous and doesn't make sense. Pls, idont wanna continue debating, ill stop here. What ever u say next I won't care at all. Thank you.
sent from my beast HTC Sensation powered by my Extreme Sensation Blaze™ 2 with HTC Sense 3.6

If you are not blind you could see that I responded to some other guy and not you. Furthermore, I didnt insult you whereas you called me pathetic. anyways MATE just keep your crap to yourself and don't insult my intelligence with your posts full of nonsense and grammatical mistakes.
If you continue this behavior someone might report us and we both will get a warning so I suggest you chill out and live your life.

Pikabat said:
If you are not blind you could see that I responded to some other guy and not you. Furthermore, I didnt insult you whereas you called me pathetic. anyways MATE just keep your crap to yourself and don't insult my intelligence with your posts full of nonsense and grammatical mistakes.
If you continue this behavior someone might report us and we both will get a warning so I suggest you chill out and live your life.
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I know u responded to other guys and I never said u didn't, did I? Furthermore, you said u didn't insult me, pls read Ur first post and tell me what is that. U are fully pathetic. If someone reported me, ill just say I didn't do anything wrong whatsoever. And I don't get what u meant by "my behaviours" wtf did I do? U said u didn't insult me, what about this
" anyways MATE just keep your crap to yourself and don't insult my intelligence with your posts full of nonsense and grammatical mistakes"
If u really said that's not an insult. U really do have no intelligence.
Im sorry for the op, and mods, feel free to delte my posts because this has gotten too far. As for this, I just started my post with a suggestion that could be a help for the op. But the other guy choose to start a debate and trying to be smart, by telling me off even when I didn't do anything whatsoever.
Imsorry op.
sent from my beast HTC Sensation powered by my Extreme Sensation Blaze™ 2 with HTC Sense 3.6

thunderskain said:
I use battery drain analyzer to see how fast my drain is..
The problems OP describe seems to be faced by me too. I can last 8-12 hours without using it and mobile network on.
A little bit of multi work, switichong between apps causes my phone to heat up and battery drain shoots sky rocket with up to 2% per min!
Cause of this, no chance for me to play games without a charger as 30 minutes of game could just deplete my entire battery.
Does this really seems like hardware related?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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If at all possible, try purchasing a anker battery. The stock battery sucks in my opinion. The anker battery is always at 25 C and also lasted significantly longer while the stock battery shot up to high temps and didn't last as long. This is just a guess also but doesn't efficiency reduce when there is heat? More heat = less battery life (just a guess). ROM's also help in reducing battery usage so I would suggest switching to an ICS ROM since my battery life significantly improved after switching. I personally use Virtuous Inquisition.

boodee0110 said:
If at all possible, try purchasing a anker battery. The stock battery sucks in my opinion. The anker battery is always at 25 C and also lasted significantly longer while the stock battery shot up to high temps and didn't last as long. This is just a guess also but doesn't efficiency reduce when there is heat? More heat = less battery life (just a guess). ROM's also help in reducing battery usage so I would suggest switching to an ICS ROM since my battery life significantly improved after switching. I personally use Virtuous Inquisition.
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Thanks for the tip!
So you think its battery related, rather than hardware problems??
Heating up is the battery issue rather than that of the phone?
And im using ICS btw! IC 4.5.4

thunderskain said:
Thanks for the tip!
So you think its battery related, rather than hardware problems??
Heating up is the battery issue rather than that of the phone?
And im using ICS btw! IC 4.5.4
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I do think it's battery related but I can't be 100% sure.
When the phone gets really hot, try going to the dialer and typing in *#*#4636#*#* and then click battery information. Then look at the temperature and health of the battery. Then report back here with what it said.
Ah, didn't notice. I think that should be fine ROM-wise.

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ROM for BEST BATTERY LIFE

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I am a big FREAK when it comes to BATTERY LIFE
i am a HEAVY USER
ALWAYS TEXTING and TALKING ON PHONE
dont use wifi or gprs
so as i got my new tilt im wondering WHAT ROM HAS THE BEST BATTERY LIFE
that also includes M2D
thank you
bstylz911 said:
sorry mods if this is in WRONG SECTION
move if it is
I am a big FREAK when it comes to BATTERY LIFE
i am a HEAVY USER
ALWAYS TEXTING and TALKING ON PHONE
dont use wifi or gprs
so as i got my new tilt im wondering WHAT ROM HAS THE BEST BATTERY LIFE
that also includes M2D
thank you
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Just completely disable data connection, 3G and wifi. I'm sure every ROM allows you to do it.
For GPRS/Edge get the "NoData" cab (I think it is on Modaco forum actually, but maybe we have it here in one of the gazillion posts too).
That way you're all set.
I can't tell about other ROMs, but i.e. in my ROM you could just install what you actually need/use and that - together with disabling all the above - would guarantee as minimal battery use as possible.
Anyways, if you're such a heavy user as you say, you should get extended battery. My Kaiser looked terribly bulky with 3200mAh battery, but at least I could use it for entire day exactly as I wanted and it still had enough juice left...
Since you chose TyTN II as your phone, obviously you don't care about phone's look but it's features, right?
It'll always will look crappy compared ti iPhone, but who cares... you can DO many things iPhone can't, and that's the beauty of Kaiser
-888- said:
Anyways, if you're such a heavy user as you say, you should get extended battery. My Kaiser looked terribly bulky with 3200mAh battery, but at least I could use it for entire day exactly as I wanted and it still had enough juice left...
Since you chose TyTN II as your phone, obviously you don't care about phone's look but it's features, right?
It'll always will look crappy compared ti iPhone, but who cares... you can DO many things iPhone can't, and that's the beauty of Kaiser
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Th only way to really tell is flash and follow -888- in regards to saving juice.
Yep i'm using a 2700 and i completely agree i'd rather have a phatt phone that does everything i want and lives a day or so
stylez said:
Th only way to really tell is flash and follow -888- in regards to saving juice.
Yep i'm using a 2700 and i completely agree i'd rather have a phatt phone that does everything i want and lives a day or so
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thank you for your quick replys
but really i dont want a PHAT phone
im still in SCHOOL and i dont wanna be carrying a BRICK hah
bstylz911 said:
thank you for your quick replys
but really i dont want a PHAT phone
im still in SCHOOL and i dont wanna be carrying a BRICK hah
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It's already a brick 1-2 cm more not gonna make no difference
You will not find a best ROM for battery as so many variables in battery life Radio, SPL etc etc.
So only way as said before is to find the best setup for you.
stylez said:
It's already a brick 1-2 cm more not gonna make no difference
You will not find a best ROM for battery as so many variables in battery life Radio, SPL etc etc.
So only way as said before is to find the best setup for you.
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Exactly.
Frankly, not that I want to be mean, by since OP is using his Kaiser for talk/text only or mostly - and don't want "the brick" (which Kaiser already is)then why not use some small "cool looking" dumbphone like iphone, or even RAZR or such...
Carrying basically a portable computer has it's price, ya know
They can miniaturize them even more today, no sweat, but the battery problem remains unsolved, at least until current battery technologies make some significant leap forward.
Either you want capable device with short life, or you add larger battery, or you go for limited capabilities device.
I don't think there is any other way.
Buy a desktop cradle charger with a phone and a battery slot. At night I put my phone and the battery in the charger. In the morning I grab the phone and put the extra battery in my pocket. Double the battery life for the day and you don't make your phone bulkier.
Hey Guys,
I'd like to say that there IS variaties on battery life performance from ROM to ROM, because I am same sensative as bstylz911 on battery life and I did notice that it does matter on which ROM is using.
Generally speaking, a LITE ROM will be more battery friendly than a FULL ROM, if you don't install and run unnessacery programs on it. On the other side, a well cooked WM6.5 ROM on same load, due to its enhanced core, will be better than a WM6.1 ROM for power management.
I can not say which is the best because I did not flash many ROMs in recent two months, but based on my past experience SAKAJATI's Apr. 20th WM6.1 Rhodium Lite ROM has been best for me, another one maybe from -888-, the first replyer for your post, telling from that it is a really lite ROM, maybe there are others recently released, please just read and search 'battery' on each ROM thread for user's comments.
Beside ROM itself, there are many other factors that could affect battery life, please check this thread and all links from the thread for more information:
[res] Battery Conservation Fanatic thread..
Cheers.
WHAT ROM DO U GUYS SUGGEST?
one with Manilla2d
and 6.1
not 6.5
bstylz911 said:
WHAT ROM DO U GUYS SUGGEST?
one with Manilla2d
and 6.1
not 6.5
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Light 6.1 M2D i'd go for but each to there own
radio will play factor based on your location as well a radio that gets "worse" signal in your area could cause more battery drain. exp. cause loss of signal and radio keeps trying to find the network. the age of ones battery plays A BIG ROLE, there are so many factors that you more than likely won't get a straight up answer like you want because all of us know how this works out, and for some reason i've noticed some users (using same radio, rom, spl) have different battery drains, could be due to and app that was installed by user, age of battery, maybe even age of the device itself could possibly play a factor. just try some roms and see what works for you.
P.S. also battery drain is to some degree perception (by user) based as to how long someone may think the battery should last, where another person may feel it should last longer than you thought so there would be one person saying good battery life and the other not pleased with battery life.
-888- said:
Exactly.
Frankly, not that I want to be mean, by since OP is using his Kaiser for talk/text only or mostly - and don't want "the brick" (which Kaiser already is)then why not use some small "cool looking" dumbphone like iphone, or even RAZR or such...
Carrying basically a portable computer has it's price, ya know
They can miniaturize them even more today, no sweat, but the battery problem remains unsolved, at least until current battery technologies make some significant leap forward.
Either you want capable device with short life, or you add larger battery, or you go for limited capabilities device.
I don't think there is any other way.
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...iphone.. really ? thats bigger than the tilt
and im pretty much the same as him. we bought the phone cause it has a great keyboard and nice touch screen. i bought it 1year ago there were no other phones for my company (atat) with that setup that werent bricks
options
1. make sure you set all battery power saving tools in kaiser tweaks really helped me
2. lower ur display brightness
buy lg xenon if you want a ****ty phone but same format.
chrisman567 said:
...iphone.. really ? thats bigger than the tilt
and im pretty much the same as him. we bought the phone cause it has a great keyboard and nice touch screen. i bought it 1year ago there were no other phones for my company (atat) with that setup that werent bricks
options
1. make sure you set all battery power saving tools in kaiser tweaks really helped me
2. lower ur display brightness
buy lg xenon if you want a ****ty phone but same format.
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don't turn on the sd card battery stuff with kaiser tweak as that is known(believed) to cause sd card data corruption.
-888- said:
Exactly.
Frankly, not that I want to be mean, by since OP is using his Kaiser for talk/text only or mostly - and don't want "the brick" (which Kaiser already is)then why not use some small "cool looking" dumbphone like iphone, or even .
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i dont really think the TILT is a brick compared to the one ive been using Cingular 8125
very slick acually
and the black color makes it more sleeker
Extended battery best bet
http://www.google.com/products?q=kaiser+extended+battery&scoring=p&sa=N&start=40
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i dont really think the TILT is a brick compared to the one ive been using Cingular 8125
very slick acually
and the black color makes it more sleeker
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Is there a HTC phone except the old SP SPV's that isn't a brick compared to say the standard Nohia? "play on words"
I know it's a brick but love it even with it's Phatt A** like the black too as in UK anyone else has a silver Kaiser
does HARD SPL version have an effect on BATTERY?
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does HARD SPL version have an effect on BATTERY?
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Yes please do some research the [REF] Guides | Tutorials | FAQ's | Stickies | etc - Read here before posting holds valuble info.
I also mentioned it in my first 2nd post.
bstylz911 said:
sorry mods if this is in WRONG SECTION
move if it is
I am a big FREAK when it comes to BATTERY LIFE
i am a HEAVY USER
ALWAYS TEXTING and TALKING ON PHONE
dont use wifi or gprs
so as i got my new tilt im wondering WHAT ROM HAS THE BEST BATTERY LIFE
that also includes M2D
thank you
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Dear BATTERY LIFE problem appear for me.
but i Chang radio 1.71.09.01 and problem solved.
i'm from Sindh pakistan
IVE FOUND A GREAT ROM and RADIO that workd for me
after about 12 hours frequently TXTing and about 3 calls
BATTERY LIFE STILL about 70%
rom- Ultimate-X.V8 -21068
radio- 1.71

HTC battery improvement procedure

There is a battery conditioning procedure recommended by HTC - probably would work with any battery
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
The above is a cut-and-paste from the G2x forum, which also was a cut-and-paste.
Is this for any HTC device or for Sensation or any LiION in general?
Is this only for one time or everyday?
Personally, I don't think it will work.
Send from my awesome HTC Sensation + XDA Premium app.
one time.
it takes a while to do so do the 8 hours overnight, but it did improve my battery life a lot and same with everyone in the g2x forum who tried it. also it was said to do a factory reset before doing this procedure. with a full charge. but it was not part of the procedure that HTC made , the OP post. a factory reset is always good to do on a new phone IMHO though.
This should definitely work. Batteries develop a 'memory' and I always go through a similar process when I first get new devices. I discharge them completely. Then turn them off to charge completely and then discharge completely once more before normal use.
Battery "memory" only applies to the Nickel Cadmium days. Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory effects:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lithium-ion-battery.htm
"If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined."
that is correct. li-ion batteries do not have "the memory effect". but this does seem to help setup the battery for best performance. it's been tested and tried at the g2x forum where i came from, and this method was released from HTC. someone just pasted it over on the g2x general forums since initially the battery had some serious issues. try it and repost. whats the worst that could happen? full battery?
This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
Plus, what is HTC doing making battery recommendations for LG devices (G2x)?
i tried this, it helps. here is the original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 it was from an evo4g user
ps. i think that the phone some how is not giving the % of the battery correctly. i have notice if i charge the phone and as soon it says its charge i unplug it, the battery drains quickly. but if i let it plugged about an hour after its says that is fully charge the power consumption its really good. it last in average like 16 hours with normal use.
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This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
i think you're right bro. just read that link. seems like that appears like the original. more info there too. im gonna save that. thanks
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
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Actually you are the troll and ACTUALLY your post does say that it's recommended by HTC and actually this isn't news. It's bump charging and actually it means that you'll have to replace your battery sooner. And actually it's one thing to say that something works and one thing to say that it's a recommendation from the manufacturer of the phone.
Trollaz dey gon troll
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This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either.
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Are you calling me a troll because I post a link about battery facts?
Hey OP, thanks for the post. It all depends on your preference anyway. Btw, do you really think we needa factory reset our device? Cos I got a lot of apps installed in my device which are not from market. Thanks in advance.
zmfl said:
This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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Very mixed bag "analysis". For so much effort he failed to answer the most basic questions.
Does bump charging the battery once provide a capacity advantage that persists? If so, how much of an advantage? Is it the 15% quoted figure? If doing it once only lasts a while then how often should it be done? And how much would that actually shorten the battery life? If the normal battery life is 1 year, and I can get 15% more capacity each day but shorten the life by 2 months I would bump charge. If it cuts the battery life in half I would still be tempted, since OEM replacement batteries aren't that expensive.
What would be useful is a graph of bump charging frequency, percent increased storage capacity, and battery life. With that information we could make rational decisions.
When we can root our phones, it's best to charge the phone on the new rom and delete batterystats.bin and let it drain to 0%
That way android knows what is 100% and what is 0% and how many volts it is.
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i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
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I think that you should edit your OP so that it does not say that bump charging is recommended by HTC, especially because it can and will lead to damaging your LI-Ion battery's overall lifespan and because it simply isn't true.
This is akin to creating a thread called "HTC phone improvement procedure" and then telling everyone that HTC recommends that they flush their phones down the toilet. Most people probably wouldn't believe you but it'd be pretty terrible if someone did simply because they believe that an experienced forum member wouldn't post mistruths that could lead to damaging their device or components of it, and claim that HTC recommends it.

[Q] Considering the Sensation, on the fence

Hey all,
I’ve been having some issues with the hard drive on my G2 and getting it exchanged through warranty. I’m looking into selling it and picking up a new Sensation on eBay instead. I have a few questions and wanted to get your opinion on the device as I’m a little on the fence. With my G2 I like the stability, screen size and battery life. However I don’t like the thickness, I never use the keyboard and I hate the loose hinge. I like how HTC built the Sensation- it has a larger screen but it is by no means is it a huge phone.
- How is the ‘out-of-box software’ experience? I’m not one to install a different ROM or root and I’m a Mac user with no access to a PC. I liked the G2 ‘almost stock Android’ software and it was very reliable. Do you find it buggy? How bad is the bloatware?
- How is the battery life? This is one of the best features of the G2. It can last a very long day with many tasks. I don’t use a lot of battery-draining activities. I generally check text, email, twitter, Facebook, news and Google Reader throughout the day. Will I get a full day with the Sensation?
Thanks for your advice in advance.
Much poor battery life. With normal usage, it lasts only around half a day. If your criteria is "at least a good battery life", then htc sensation should definitely not be an option for you.
Sometimes i wanna SUE the HTC
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battery life will vary, mine is typically about 2 days with medium usage. Check out craigslist, I picked up mine for $230, unlocked it and rooted before I started using it. Cant go wrong with this phone
dream-merchant said:
Much poor battery life. With normal usage, it lasts only around half a day. If your criteria is "at least a good battery life", then htc sensation should definitely not be an option for you.
Sometimes i wanna SUE the HTC
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You shouldn't speak for all Sensation users.
I've found my battery life excellent, with fair-moderate use it lasts approximately 36 hours for me using CM7 build 4.
whato1986 said:
You shouldn't speak for all Sensation users.
I've found my battery life excellent, with fair-moderate use it lasts approximately 36 hours for me using CM7 build 4.
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He have right man, with normal use the battery lasts around half of day. Mine and to ather 4 mine friend is asame ! And we have all android on it. Windows it keept more of course but default is Android on them and we love it as it is. If u want CM7 on it is your misunderstood desire. But we do not care how you get on your phone with Windows. If I want to take my toy figurines taken from the store of toy figurines, right ?
Thanks for the fast responses. After doing some searching, it looks like a lot of people have picked up the Anker battery eBay and have seen excellent results extending battery life. I think with that I could get through a long day.
Will rooting/s-off and removing bloatware help battery life? Also, do you need to have a Windows PC to root/s-off?
Thanks.
This phone stock is terrible compared to rooted. Almost any custom rom is better than stock, battery and performance wise.
The phones good at stock but fairly sluggish, if your keeping it stock its prob not going to be better than the sg2
Also I think u can root from a mac
The stock software is not terrible! I'm not rooted, got launcher pro on it and its very fast! Sense is pretty nice though but lacks when it comes to customising.
You don't need to root to be able to customise the phone a lot. I picked up an anker battery and I like it. With light use I can get 30+ hours. With normal use like you described, texts calls emails facebook browsing the odd game I can easily make it through the day. With heavy use ie lots of screen time you might have to plug it in before bedtime. Depends how long your day is I suppose!
I don't regret buying this phone at all. It's a beautiful device.
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I am totally stock but S-OFF. In my opinion, you do not need to root or flash custom rom's to appreciate this device. Out of the box, the sensation is already an amazing phone. I don't understand why other people keep saying that it is slow, maybe they have a faulty handset. For me it is very fast! You can't go wrong with this phone.
Is 'root' and 'S-off' not the same thing?
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Nevermind after some searching, I learned the difference.
s-off means security off...... you need to s-off the device in order to write data into the nand as i understand it(anyone can corect me if im wrong.) root gives you root access to the device and with it you can remove or freeze the bloat ware on your phone. two entirely different things
back on topic: i love my sensation. i get through the day at work without charging it. my usuage is mainly text (heavy text) but i do check facebook, and read news and the occasional phone call. im rooted also but runnin stock rom with bloat ware removed and it works just fine for me. just like yourpassanger said the stock rom is not terrible at all.
Lol have u tried custom roms? I'm telling you android revolution is a lot smoother than stock. I regretted getting this phone till I rooted it, now I'm glad I've got it
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beberobu said:
He have right man, with normal use the battery lasts around half of day. Mine and to ather 4 mine friend is asame ! And we have all android on it. Windows it keept more of course but default is Android on them and we love it as it is. If u want CM7 on it is your misunderstood desire. But we do not care how you get on your phone with Windows. If I want to take my toy figurines taken from the store of toy figurines, right ?
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Dude, what are you talking about?
And, where in this thread was there any mention of running windows on our phones?
mstyle88 said:
Hey all,
I’ve been having some issues with the hard drive on my G2 and getting it exchanged through warranty. I’m looking into selling it and picking up a new Sensation on eBay instead. I have a few questions and wanted to get your opinion on the device as I’m a little on the fence. With my G2 I like the stability, screen size and battery life. However I don’t like the thickness, I never use the keyboard and I hate the loose hinge. I like how HTC built the Sensation- it has a larger screen but it is by no means is it a huge phone.
- How is the ‘out-of-box software’ experience? I’m not one to install a different ROM or root and I’m a Mac user with no access to a PC. I liked the G2 ‘almost stock Android’ software and it was very reliable. Do you find it buggy? How bad is the bloatware?
- How is the battery life? This is one of the best features of the G2. It can last a very long day with many tasks. I don’t use a lot of battery-draining activities. I generally check text, email, twitter, Facebook, news and Google Reader throughout the day. Will I get a full day with the Sensation?
Thanks for your advice in advance.
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You sound like you have a functional brain in your head that actually uses some common sense.
Good.
The phone as I received it is nice,not perfect .... there's no such thing.
Eeyup,there's some useless app's installed,but for someone else they're probably perfect.
I haven't rooted mine because of the warranty factor.
I'm waiting on an Anker battery.
That should make the experience a little nicer.
Let's face it: The more you use the phone like a pocket computer,the harder the processor works and the more battery power it uses.
Therefore,if you use it like a laptop,you'd better be packing some spare batteries or a Mugen 3500.
Otherwise it's a nicely built little phone,with a great screen and good processing power.

Anker battery 'ageing'. What does it mean?

I am using the Anker 1900mAh battery for last 3 weeks and I am satisfied with the battery life it provides. I did 4-5 charge-discharge cycles and now I regularly get 24hrs - 27hrs life out of it. Today I noticed that BMW Pro is showing battery '14% aging'! What does this mean? Is my battery dying? To confirm I installed the HTC battery widget and it shows nothing abnormal. Please check the screenshots. Is something wrong with my battery?
More than 100 views. Nobody?
My aging says 0%, on stock battery... 5 month old.
I gave up using BMW after getting my sensation, the battery driver by HTC is useless and the statistics the driver gives to BMW can't be trusted.
If you're that concerned then charge to 100%, delete your your battery stats and history and hence start again - but I don't think anything has changed for you, it still guesses your battery as around 1900.
boomboomer said:
I gave up using BMW after getting my sensation, the battery driver by HTC is useless and the statistics the driver gives to BMW can't be trusted.
If you're that concerned then charge to 100%, delete your your battery stats and history and hence start again - but I don't think anything has changed for you, it still guesses your battery as around 1900.
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Absolutly right about BMW and Sensation. BMW Useless and confusing only. Don't worry about ageing - continue to use as before.
My phone is not rooted. So I cant delete battery stats. And I get excellent battery life. But the 'aging' thing was worrying me. But after reading your comments not so much worried now. What does 'aging' mean anyway? i.e. in the context of the battery.
Over time and use batteries age... They lose their capacity.... Aging 10% Means that the battery has 10% less capacity than it had when it was new....
Sent from my HTC Sensation
zcdg said:
Absolutly right about BMW and Sensation. BMW Useless and confusing only. Don't worry about ageing - continue to use as before.
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There's nothing wrong with the app, it worked perfectly on my HD2, it's just the battery driver that's the issue for the sensation.
boomboomer said:
There's nothing wrong with the app, it worked perfectly on my HD2, it's just the battery driver that's the issue for the sensation.
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I know that is Senasation's driver reporting not correct discharge current, only correct charge current. I meant BMW is useless with Sensation.
And i guess it is not problem of HTC's driver but hardware chipset used in sensation and evo 3d - driver can't read proper values from measurment circuit of chipset. If i would be driver itself, HTC could fix it easely.
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Don't expect from Anker same quantity of charge-discharge cycles as original battery. It may not work as long as original one(cycles i mean). Nothing can be done with it and nothing can help. They are cheap, so just buy new one when capacity will badly decrease.
Now BMW is showing aging to be 0%. How and why it showed 14% previously I dont know! The battery is hardly 3 weeks old. It cant begin to age so soon, can it? Maybe the earlier value was some wrong reporting. There seems to be a definite problem with the phone's battery driver.
As countless people told you by now - those stats don't mean ****. Stop relying on them. It's useless, confusing information with absolutely no value.
Your battery is fine.
anazei said:
As countless people told you by now - those stats don't mean ****. Stop relying on them. It's useless, confusing information with absolutely no value.
Your battery is fine.
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^ What he said. If the developer set the app to say it's 99% aged while your battery still lasted about 25 hours or so.. would you believe that? I'm banking on the assumption that you're not a complete moron and WOULDNT believe that. This is almost the same thing, accrding to all the other users, the app and the battery drivers don't work well together. As everyone else has stated, stop using it? There really is only one way to test your battery properly, and that is to use it. If one day you only got like 15 hours out of your normal 27.. then you know there's a problem. screw the bmw app
anazei said:
As countless people told you by now - those stats don't mean ****. Stop relying on them. It's useless, confusing information with absolutely no value.
Your battery is fine.
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I have understood it totally.
KAwAtA said:
^ What he said. If the developer set the app to say it's 99% aged while your battery still lasted about 25 hours or so.. would you believe that? I'm banking on the assumption that you're not a complete moron and WOULDNT believe that. This is almost the same thing, accrding to all the other users, the app and the battery drivers don't work well together. As everyone else has stated, stop using it? There really is only one way to test your battery properly, and that is to use it. If one day you only got like 15 hours out of your normal 27.. then you know there's a problem. screw the bmw app
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Is there really any need for being this rude? I thought we were just having a discussion. Why are you getting exasperated?
sarkar_007 said:
Now BMW is showing aging to be 0%. How and why it showed 14% previously I dont know! The battery is hardly 3 weeks old. It cant begin to age so soon, can it? Maybe the earlier value was some wrong reporting. There seems to be a definite problem with the phone's battery driver.
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Ignore, ignore, ignore. Just ignore. How can you trust it if BMW doesn't even report mA correctly (not it's fault). So stop worrying and just enjoy your phone.
tinky1 said:
Ignore, ignore, ignore. Just ignore. How can you trust it if BMW doesn't even report mA correctly (not it's fault). So stop worrying and just enjoy your phone.
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Thats what I am going to do!
You may see what are aged battery here :http://78michel.unblog.fr/htc-desire-battery-shutdown-analysis/ and here :http://78michel.unblog.fr/?p=164
The SoC curve ( state of charge) shows a step during the charging cycle before reaching 100% and a shutdown while discharging. This is very typical.
The aging is in fact the amplitude of the step.....
A precise battery analysis requires a full charging cycle from 0% to 100% with a AC charger.
Your battery is clearly not aged at all..... don't worry
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I have understood it totally.
Is there really any need for being this rude? I thought we were just having a discussion. Why are you getting exasperated?
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How am I being rude? You should change the tone of how you read it. I didn't call you the moron, I was assuming you weren't and trying to give some kind of crappy analogy to make sense of it lol
Folks, wiping battery stats is to no use. It only contains the data of what have used the battery since last charge. When you unplug your phone from the charger, the stats are reset. You can't extend or damage the battery life by deleting/altering the battery stats file.

roms and kernels?

anyone know why there are no roms or kernels for this phone? wonder if it's because of a locked bootleader? that and the fact that the battery life sux balls i think i might return this. i love the camera and the feel of it but it's still rather laggy even after the newest update
thanks all
No roms and kernels because no custom recovery.
No custom recovery because locked bootloader.
Not sure why you're getting poor battery performance.
Battery life is brilliant for me, I can go a whole day of normal use (my normal use is probably heavy use to most people) and still have 40% when I go to bed .
What kind of apps are you using to get such lag and battery drain?
Yea, i see everyone complaining about the battery life but i have had no issues with battery life or drainage.
that was with just the basics installed. 100 percent when i start the day around 8:30 the used it to stream pandora for an hour on the way to work. then it sat in my pocked unused and the battery was at 15 percent by 1.
this is even with my battery saver proggie running that cuts of the wifi and cell antenna's when screen is off. no idea im assuming the battery is defective. but now that i know there's not gonna be roms and such i think i might just say fark it and get the m9. i see that there are already tons of roms for that. and i came from a og 3vo so i recognize all the developers.
it's just a bummer i love the curve and the camera on this thing. this is also my third gflex 2 since i got it 3 days ago. the first one just started bootlooping after fifteen mins, the second did the same and now the third seems to work good but the battery life is horrible.
tis a predicament rofl.
thanks for the info gang
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If that's the case then you might be right about a defective battery.
Either that or the screen is coming on in your pocket, you'd probably notice your skin burning as the phone heats up though.
Have you checked Settings> Battery> Battery Usage, just to see what's using the most battery?
If you're not happy with the flex 2, the m9 is a great phone.
I got my hands on a prototype about 6 months before release, the only reason I didn't get one is that it just didn't feel right in my hand.
Battery life compare to my old Flex 1 is crap. I know its smaller and better screen resolution, but still my old G2 had better battery life than Flex 2 with same screen resolution and battery.
OP should go cr8 it
wangateur said:
anyone know why there are no roms or kernels for this phone? wonder if it's because of a locked bootleader? that and the fact that the battery life sux balls i think i might return this. i love the camera and the feel of it but it's still rather laggy even after the newest update
thanks all
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Moved here, read the Forum Rules on posting.
if no one will post earlier, going to start porting in approximately two weeks, when my phone arrives.
can't ship my G Flex 2 with Express mail, not enough money there, so need to wait for a month, or more
sorry, guys.
dark.wizard said:
can't ship my G Flex 2 with Express mail, not enough money there, so need to wait for a month, or more
sorry, guys.
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