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I'd like to have two phone numbers go to my TyTN; one for personal use and one for professional use. I know this is possible through dual-simming, but that's not what I want.
I'm looking for a service of some sort that would redirect the second number to my first number.
I recall seeing a service like this, but it has been lost in the haze. Google is too good at what it does; I can't come up with any terms that get me to what I need to see.
The one I stumbled across had defineable rules about when the second number would forward or else bounce to a voicemail system, such as after normal business hours.
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks!
maybe this is what you're looking for, but dunno if wm is supported...
http://www.talkplus.com/
Assuming you are in the US, try http://www.grandcentral.com/
Although basic services are free, I think you need an invite to get a membership. But...if you're willing to pay, I'm sure the company will do whatever you want.
I had sent an E-Mail yesterday to [email protected] and had recieved a phone call back. We can contact SPRINT in this way to get them to really hear what we have to say and ask. I had spoke with the VP and had sugested that SPRINT contact HTC to have them design the HD2 to also have a sliding keyboard. All SPRINT has to do is put in the request because their customers "US" are asking for that feature to be added to the phone. If just one person asks 1 question, then it might be heard. But if 10,000 people or 100,000 people ask the same question. It will definatly be heard and then answered. If we want SPRINT to STOP CRIPPELING the phones, then let's all ask the same question. If we want SPRINT to advertise about the TP2, then let's all ask. If more people knew that there is a phone that can give the IPHONE a beating, then all we have to do is make SPRINT stand up and listen to what their customers have to say. So far to date, there has not been one advertisement for the TP2 in any way shape or form to the masses. Sure there have been some reviews on the phone. You will only know about it if you read that perticular magizine or go to the right web site. So, agian let's all send an E-Mail to [email protected] and speak up
How is Sprint crippling their phones?
I definitely do NOT want an HD2 with a keyboard. Since Sprint is in NO WAY getting the HD2 (at least for a while), I would like to petition them to get a phone without a keyboard that is otherwise equal to or better than the TP2. While we are petitioning, how about making it free...
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I had sent an E-Mail yesterday to [email protected] and had recieved a phone call back. We can contact SPRINT in this way to get them to really hear what we have to say and ask. I had spoke with the VP and had sugested that SPRINT contact HTC to have them design the HD2 to also have a sliding keyboard. All SPRINT has to do is put in the request because their customers "US" are asking for that feature to be added to the phone. If just one person asks 1 question, then it might be heard. But if 10,000 people or 100,000 people ask the same question. It will definatly be heard and then answered. If we want SPRINT to STOP CRIPPELING the phones, then let's all ask the same question. If we want SPRINT to advertise about the TP2, then let's all ask. If more people knew that there is a phone that can give the IPHONE a beating, then all we have to do is make SPRINT stand up and listen to what their customers have to say. So far to date, there has not been one advertisement for the TP2 in any way shape or form to the masses. Sure there have been some reviews on the phone. You will only know about it if you read that perticular magizine or go to the right web site. So, agian let's all send an E-Mail to [email protected] and speak up
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How is Sprint crippling their phones?
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I am not sure what exactly gd761 is talking about. I do know, though, that all CDMA versions of the phone (including Verizon's) do not have an FM Tuner in there. For whatever reason, it is sacrificed for some of the CDMA hardware. Though there are ways to get Radio, just not through normal FM/AM.
The other thing gd761 may be referencing is the fact that nearly EVERY VERSION OF THIS PHONE with other carriers (not all, but most), were released with WinMo 6.5 and a newer (and Sense-like) TouchFlo. For whatever reason, Sprint seems to want to delay it and only says that it will be released "early 2010." I spoke with a representative today who agreed it is ludicrous that nearly every, if not all, carriers now have the upgrade (or at least their form of it) and sprint is dragging their heels.
To tell the truth, I am not sure what gd761 is referring to. I do share the resentment, at least on the upgrade thing. Who knows?
I agree, though, on one point... I do believe that we should, as their customers, their paychecks, let our opinions be heard... and not just on their web forum or through customer service. It is obvious that we need to let them know what we want, and, if need be, bypass the normal channels and go for the bigwigs.
I'm not calling for a revolt, I am however, tired of hearing one person after another complain about service or not having the best phone (in their opinion) and rant and rave..... AND THEN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT (but complain some more). If you ahev enough time to be on here and B!+ch about it, you have enough time to write a letter to someone about it. It's a rare day if the powers that be in our respective phone companies (Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, etc) scan these forums for advice and ideas, at least not in depth. Even if they did, it would be much longer then just going to the source.
Think about it, everyone.
I've seen plenty of tp2 commercials since at least November.
"If more people knew that there is a phone that can give the IPHONE a beating, then all we have to do is make SPRINT stand up and listen to what their customers have to say."
Not convinced HTC will completely redesign a platform because a carrier requests it. If you really want an iPhone killer tho, Droid Does. The TP2 certainly has a more refined slider keyboard, and the tilt is nice. Have to say I like the glass capacitive screen better tho. The real advantage the Droid has right now is a separate GPU. It really is a noticeable improvement over the TP2 performance-wise. I was anxious to see what HTC did with the Nexus 1, but lack of a physical keyboard is a deal killer for me, Snapdragon or no.
I have tried to use Andriod and Palm and don't like the look or feel of them. I know that we all have our own opinions about all of the different devices out on the market. What we should be doing is not complaining about what we think individually, but all want from the Carriers. these forums are not you and me againt one another, but us the customesr to share info and to try to get the Carriers to listed to ALL of us, not just ONE of us. I want a keyboard and you don't want a keyboard. These things tell the Carriers that their customers want one with a keyboard and one without a keyboard. We want one feature or another, or one OS or another. this will let the Carriers know that you want a specific device with specific features with a certain device. I might want exactly the same thing with all the same features, but just with a different OS, or feature. If the Carriers start hearing this, then when they negotiate with the Manufacturs of the devices for them to carry them, they will say that their customers are asking for this or that, and have the devices tweaked or redesigned. This is how it is done. Some people think that we the customers don't influence in any way how these devices are designed or what OS is installed on them. There are a lot of deciding factures that go into these devices that most peolpe do NOT realize or want to accept as being fact. This is just the way that things are. But again, let's agree to disagree and tell the Carriers what our personal desires are. They weally do listen, but not to just one voice, but to many voices.
well I am one of the types of people that think being charged for sending text is ridiculous when i have internet on my phone
But just sending text to someones cell number, rather than email/aim/other Instant messengers that not many people use, is pretty convenient. cell providers could easily scrap the fee and send our texts via 3g internet and everything would work fine.
Has anyone here at XDA developers dug into this subject yet? I remember when i had aim people could send messages to my phone with aim and i could send messages to aim also.
I have the verizon fascinate (galaxy s). and this is my first cell phone
bump.
no one is interested in saving 10-15 dollars a month?
I (and a lot of other people) use Google Voice.
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I think you mean sending free messages. If the other has also a smartphone with internet, take a look at PingChat WhatsApp(both free).
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EleCtrOx666 said:
I think you mean sending free messages. If the other has also a smartphone with internet, take a look at PingChat WhatsApp(both free).
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ya this is the type of thing i am talking about.
although what would be ideal would be to not have to have a program like that. like somehow recieve/send texts normally with your cell number but just have it go through the 3g network and not the network the carrier uses for text/pics/vids.
So you want it to be sent/received the same way as SMS, but free....
Yeah.. No. You're going to have to use Google Voice or some sort of chat program.
i would say use ping or even kik, kik is getting very popular over cross platforms. (iPone, BB etc) as long as the other ppl have kik u should be able to text, if not jus look for a app on market
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So you want it to be sent/received the same way as SMS, but free....
Yeah.. No. You're going to have to use Google Voice or some sort of chat program.
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ya i mean. thats just ludicrous. why try to save money. lets just continue being ripped off.....
cell phones with data packages should not have to pay for sending text/vids/pics. is that really hard to understand?
Wunako said:
i would say use ping or even kik, kik is getting very popular over cross platforms. (iPone, BB etc) as long as the other ppl have kik u should be able to text, if not jus look for a app on market
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i thought kik was just text and not pics or vid
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ya i mean. thats just ludicrous. why try to save money. lets just continue being ripped off.....
cell phones with data packages should not have to pay for sending text/vids/pics. is that really hard to understand?
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A text message has to be delivered to the recipient somehow. It doesn't go directly to the intended person but rather to your carrier. Your carrier will then either route it to the recipient if on the same network or forward the message to the recipient's network who takes over delivery. Guess who wants money to use their networks in this way?
If you want to text for free then you'll have to get a Google Voice number and route your texts through that. Google is basically doing the routing for free.
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A text message has to be delivered to the recipient somehow. It doesn't go directly to the intended person but rather to your carrier. Your carrier will then either route it to the recipient if on the same network or forward the message to the recipient's network who takes over delivery. Guess who wants money to use their networks in this way?
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do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection.
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation. what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection. Holy cow, you're either a slowpoke or a troll
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation. what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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It is GOD DAMN IMPOSSIBLE to send texts over 3G until YOUR CARRIER allows you to cause ALL TEXTS go through the CARRIERS and you CAN'T hack into THEIR network.
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do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection.
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation.
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You're vastly oversimplifying this in your head. The infrastructure to send and receive text messages is already in place and works regardless of phone model and capabilities. You can have a smartphone, feature phone, or dumb phone (that can text) and the infrastructure will handle it all the same. Adding the capability to use the data connection to tap into this infrastructure would cost lots of money for the carriers and potentially expose the SMS infrastructure to vulnerabilities.
Could the carriers do this? Certainly, but they're not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Not only would they be losing texting revenue from a larger and larger portion of their base but the costs to implement any such changes would be highly unlikely to bring in any return.
The carriers aren't providing services to make you feel good. They are in it to make money and will do so in ways that you might not agree with. Texting has proven to be a very viable revenue stream and the carriers certainly don't want to endanger that by developing alternative methods to access the same service at no cost just for you.
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what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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Email and SMS are very, very different. One has no guarantees about notification while the other depends on it.
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It is GOD DAMN IMPOSSIBLE to send texts over 3G until YOUR CARRIER allows you to cause ALL TEXTS go through the CARRIERS and you CAN'T hack into THEIR network.
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read the entire post freak. never did i say we should hack into their network. your just mad
Spitemare said:
You're vastly oversimplifying this in your head. The infrastructure to send and receive text messages is already in place and works regardless of phone model and capabilities. You can have a smartphone, feature phone, or dumb phone (that can text) and the infrastructure will handle it all the same. Adding the capability to use the data connection to tap into this infrastructure would cost lots of money for the carriers and potentially expose the SMS infrastructure to vulnerabilities.
Could the carriers do this? Certainly, but they're not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Not only would they be losing texting revenue from a larger and larger portion of their base but the costs to implement any such changes would be highly unlikely to bring in any return.
The carriers aren't providing services to make you feel good. They are in it to make money and will do so in ways that you might not agree with. Texting has proven to be a very viable revenue stream and the carriers certainly don't want to endanger that by developing alternative methods to access the same service at no cost just for you.
Email and SMS are very, very different. One has no guarantees about notification while the other depends on it.
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news flash bro, nothing in life has garauntees.
guess i better not send any more gmails to anyone.or use pingchat, or use whatsapp. it might cost my carrier lots of money........................
fupamobile has a point about sms charges, infact carriers in general, being a rip off.
hurrah for capatailisim and its greedy foot soliders
I don't normally bother with brainless posts like fupamobile's responses but damn... I get the point (and agree) about paying for texting. Now, you get a couple ACCURATE responses and start name-calling because you either don't understand or don't want to accept the given answers. Talk about obnoxious.
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I don't normally bother with brainless posts like fupamobile's responses but damn... I get the point (and agree) about paying for texting. Now, you get a couple ACCURATE responses and start name-calling because you either don't understand or don't want to accept the given answers. Talk about obnoxious.
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i give the attitude i receive. stupidity deserves it. u mad brah?
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i give the attitude i receive. stupidity deserves it. u mad brah?
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I can't tell if you are just being a troll or are really that dim.
Google voice. I send what ever I want, just like I was using the "normal" text or sms services. I send them to the same numbers...it's transparent.
Why can't you understand? The q was answered long time ago.
fupamobile, you cannot do what you've proposed. If you want to use the SMS system, you must adhere to the current rules and regulations. You can circumvent being charged by using an instant messaging program, but you will not be able to use the actual SMS system without having to pay one way or another.
I live in Canada and we have the highest wireless rates in the world and I have unlimited messaging, 6GB of data and a very good plan which comes to about $50 a month after tax. You can't get everything in life for free. At least if you're in the United States you can use Google Voice and get free voice calling, I think even SMS but I'm not sure as it's not here. You can get very reasonable voice, data and text plans and with all the free calling and IM clients I can't see why one would also need free SMS. If it's that highly valued, simply subscribe to an SMS plan through your provider.
I personally send and receive thousands of SMS each month and could absolutely not survive without it. I use it more than voice services.
don't some plans give you free text to certain numbers? or is this a totally different topic? sorry for my confusion, cause here in aus, i get free text to people on the same carrier like i am. but if you mean free texts to everyone, then, my bad.
hahahahaha
let's start a thread that may as well ask "why do big corporations want our money?", and then argue with all the other realistic responses even though it's very clear that your dreams will never be realized because you're asking people to do something for free.
Do you not understand something about the world?
And yes, +1 for google voice essentially doing what you want.
-1 for you thinking that verizon would do the same.
Noob here.
I'm having to make a financial decision and when my contract ends with Verizon in April, I'm going to switch to Straight Talk. I would love to afford the biggest and best, but I cant, so I'm having to go with something a bit less. My question is, has anyone been able to flash or convert their standard Verizon phone to work with Straight Talk? I'm wondering whether it be a regular phone, windows mobile/smartphone, or android, if anyone has been able to pull this off, and if so, how? I enjoy getting my phone and other devices to do more than allowed at original purchase and think this would be fun to do when I make the switch. Please let me know if anyone has done this and how. Thanks!
anyone with any info on this subject?
An issue like this requires a bit more than rooting, or 'unlocking' the phone. What your looking at doing is essentially jailbreaking the phone. This CAN be a complicated process.
I don't know for sure that whether or not there is an area in XDA committed to doing this. My suggestion at this point would be to google jailbreak (your phones name).
depending on the phone, this isnt always possible. On top of this, there are potentially features that your phone has that will not be supported once jailbroken.
Good luck.
EDIT: I should mention that, depending on the phone, you may not be able to do this. Certain phones REQUIRE that you have not only a talk plan, but a data plan as well. These are usually newer smart phones.
StraightTalk Now Had Android Phone
With straight talk now offering an android phone, will this help in converting my OG Droid to straight talk?
HELP i did succeed in flashing phone,everything works great. but the problem is i started gettin text messages from 31778 and 55330, and it only gives a series of numbers. can you help me with this issue? thanks
Mind sharing or pm'ing me on how you got it to work? I got a donor st phone and 2 fascinates from verizon. I successfully got the esn changed, *22890 to work. I can browse the net and receive texts. sending text says fail but still go through. The calls won't go out, get a autho error. If I am outside my market it will send/receive calls fine but soon as I cross back into it quits working. Occasionally it will even recieve a call and work but then it goes back to autho failure. Any idea where I went wrong?
Verizion or sprint android phone to straight talk on verizon towers
Still looking for anyone who is working on this project. I have found several people selling this service. Anyone have more information to share.
Thanks
Do you guys not search? this thread was orig posted back in Dec asking about flashing VZW to ST, but this guide had been posted already for months, was posted back in August... pretty much has everything you need to do for VZW to ST flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210240&highlight=+straight+talk+
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Do you guys not search? this thread was orig posted back in Dec asking about flashing VZW to ST, but this guide had been posted already for months, was posted back in August... pretty much has everything you need to do for VZW to ST flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210240&highlight=+straight+talk+
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ha thats the same thing i was going to post so i can do that method on DROID 1?
But that thread is more specifically aimed at the Fascinate, and it's ilk, than the X or X2's. If anyone has more detailed procedures pertaining to the MB870 please don't hesitate to PM me.
Thread lightly cleaned of ESN discussion. Keep that out of here... Time to reset and get on topic. Final warning.
^^ .... So like I was saying... I'd Just your contract run out, give em a call and tell em that if they want to keep your business switch your phone over to Straight talk. They want your money no matter what but until you push them they won't do squat for you...
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Ok so heres the odd thing
Older version of google voice app installed on my old Droidx phone, it would call any number through the same dialed out google voice number thereby allowing me to put that number into my friends and family list with verizon.
well, with the sgs3 and ICS it appears that old version of google voice is not compatible as it force closes when trying to use it.
So, I install the current version available from the market, BUT it still dials the SAME number from before, no matter what. It is always the same number. I have called a few hundred different people over the past 2 weeks and it has always been the same number (i keep checking to make sure)
to add to the confusion, I got another sgs3 for another line on the same verizon family plan (received the preorder 2 days later then mine) and perform the same installation of the old app and new app from the play store....... BUT that other line uses different numbers almost every time. I dont get it.
heres what I know:
-2 phones same version of the app act differently
-the google voice numbers themselves are sequential
-the emails for the google account are very similar ([email protected] and [email protected])
-the emails are both @gmail.com domain
-the people being called are the same
-the number google voice uses is different
-when calling, 10 digit number is being used on both phones
I thought maybe since I installed the old version of the app and then the new version that maybe something got left behind, nope, i have flashed about 6 different roms and factory reset a dozen times. I have even deleted the system and restored with different stock images.
Does anyone have any insight here? how this could be? how to change the varying number google voice account/app dials and make it the same number as the other one or even a different number but make it dial that number each time?
Im lost here, with no rhyme or reason. any help? anyone? ty
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WOW 79 people viewed this and not one could reply?
Well I figured out how to get it dialing one number again.
all you do is...
you know maybe no one cares, never mind I will keep it to myself unless theres a demand for knowing how to do it.
I have the same problem as you. I've been looking for a fix but haven't gotten any help either
Sent from Verizon's now unlocked Galaxy S3.
I will pm you.
questions first ......are the calls going through to your person you are trying to call?
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questions first ......are the calls going through to your person you are trying to call?
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yes. the call completes fine, its just that the number it dials out on (not my gv number, but the dialing number that initiates the call) think of it similar to a calling card. where you dial a number to get access to the call.
Anyways, I dial a number, say Brian, I hit call and it dials a gv number then connects me to Brians number. That gv number changes and is random seemingly, so one cant put the numbers into say their A-list or Verizon's friends and family as they use to be able to before....
well, i guess, until now.
ah yea, i know exactly what you are talking about. google changed that a good while back in their app. I noticed this also because i woul use the google number that it called in my 10 free friends number alot (may be one reason they had to change it, verizon got jelly of a number not using any minutes). you can actually google about it ( i did when it happened ) and i actually found the app that was lower version that did not use different numbers (access numbers).
also, one thing i remember reading did state that they most likely changed this setup because of the need to add more access numbers due to increased popularity.
i actually have used my GV number for 2+ years i believe as a alternate primary line to my business (was great idea when i had the number as a free friend number.
hopes this helps ?
well the old version of the app worked........ until i got on the sgs3 with ics, it force closes now (on old version)....
But do not fear, for I have figured out how to get it to work like it use to!!! I have it dialing the same number again and again. it was exciting since I have multiple gv numbers that we use as our main number (different people in the family) ty what you posted does help... Im not the only one needing this. ty
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well the old version of the app worked........ until i got on the sgs3 with ics, it force closes now (on old version)....
But do not fear, for I have figured out how to get it to work like it use to!!! I have it dialing the same number again and again. it was exciting since I have multiple gv numbers that we use as our main number (different people in the family) ty what you posted does help... Im not the only one needing this. ty
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how did you get it to work or were you not going to say?
Im gauging demand.
It doesnt/didnt seem like anyone cared or knew about the app and its functionality. If thats the case, then I will keep how I have it working to myself, but if others find they could use it... ty
You realize you wasted four or five posts saying you were not going to reveal the way how, unless you had the peoples interests. when you could have only used up one post. Kinda seems wasteful of your time and mine when you are in a question and answer thread category, instead not a beg and ye shall receive one.
If you wish to be asked for this by a group of followers than good luck as I for one will not give any more of my time nor knowing waste a servers space. Space is not free if you are unaware.
I do not wish any hard feelings toward you nor your opinions and morals but I assume you want only honest replies when you ask a question here and I am replying as expected.
Sorry for the length.
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You realize you wasted four or five posts saying you were not going to reveal the way how, unless you had the peoples interests. when you could have only used up one post. Kinda seems wasteful of your time and mine when you are in a question and answer thread category, instead not a beg and ye shall receive one.
If you wish to be asked for this by a group of followers than good luck as I for one will not give any more of my time nor knowing waste a servers space. Space is not free if you are unaware.
I do not wish any hard feelings toward you nor your opinions and morals but I assume you want only honest replies when you ask a question here and I am replying as expected.
Sorry for the length.
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you are right, I have posted a few times. but when only 2 other people are talking about the thread that is a month old, and only explaining their interest surely you can see just how frustrating it was that no one offered any insight until I said I figured it out. I mean if the thread wasnt worth the time when there wasnt a way, it sure shouldnt mean any more now that I figured it out .... right? btw, you did post "questions first" I appreciate your interest now though.
I dont mind sharing it one off with people as I have already shared it with others here. Frankly though, maybe your right... I will just shut my mouth and not share it and refrain from continuing to post to see if there is more interest here for it. sorry I wasted your time.
p.s. I wouldnt worry about server resources here, surely youve seen some of the other threads go on and on for hundreds of posts not saying anything. But I have reported thread to be deleted.
ty
Well due to such a great demand for people wanting to know how to do this, I have asked the thread be unlocked. I didnt want to argue in any other posters thread so I simply linked it to this one that really is the original one.
There should be some caution explained that Verizon probably doesnt like this because it sort of abuses the Friends and Family list. Afterall, this really is only useful to the people on a tiered MINUTE plan (unlike newer plans that have unlimited voice but tiered data). Google obviously folded to pressure from the Cellular providers back when versions after 0.3.0 where released. I know personally I save nearly 500 minutes a month on outgoing calls alone. Configured correctly, a user could effectively eliminate all minutes on the line using Google Voice.
As we should all be cautious about posting this method publicly because there is a reason this is so 'difficult' to do, please just pm me so that we hopefully dont give this to verizon so easily. I am asking that all that is posted here is:
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"Yep, it works...." (or similar)
Please dont post any details about this publicly, even in this thread. If you are having a hard time getting it to work after a pm with me, just message me again, I will happily help. If you dont like this or think I shouldnt do it this way, you can pm me.
I dont want to argue with anyone about this. Thanks for understanding.
Thanks tillithz... worked like a charm!