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Has anyone noticed that most all Android handsets are lacking a hardware keyboard? Seriously, the only one i can see is the G1 (Im not counting the moto ones as i cannot put a custom rom on it, and wheres the fun in that!!)
I've had a G1 but that was a loooonnnng time ago and my TP2 is beggining to get on my nerves . I have been offered a Motorola Dext from work at £60 but i just couldnt live with it.
So to give this thread a point, can anyone reccomend an android based handset that has a hardware keyboard and can be modded?
Otherwise i may just end up waiting on a Moto Milestone because they look awesome!!!!
The droid or milestone is rootable (I think).
The Telus Milestone just got rooted a few days ago, which is great news for AT&T users However, I've heard it doesn't have the best hardware keyboard.
I'm a T-Mo Event Rep and I just received my Cliq XT via UPS and wanted to know has anyone rooted there Cliq XT yet!?
Coming Soon To MY PALM NEXT MONTH!............HTC HD2!!!
kuntri said:
I'm a T-Mo Event Rep and I just received my Cliq XT via UPS and wanted to know has anyone rooted there Cliq XT yet!?
Coming Soon To MY PALM NEXT MONTH!............HTC HD2!!!
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I don't believe it has been rooted yet. How do you like the XT? Did you own the original cliq?
I like the orig Cliq. The Blur can be laggy at times...other Reps on my team are having major FC's with their Cliqs and reluctant on selling the XT, lol! (just got off a conf. call)
None of them are aware or no how to 'root', so i have an advantage. I should have the HD2 next month.............
You sound like your in the know. Any word on when we will finally get 3G in Springfield MO?
Check this out.......
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/more-3g-more-3g/
Since you are part of t-mobile USA
will we get a decent android phone like maybe the HTC DESIRE?
I'm tired of moto selling their motoblur devices running android 1.5, have low specs, and just downright old and outdated.
I'm guessing my october if they aren't any good android devices on t-mobile I have to go Win-Mo with the HD2
UberMario said:
Since you are part of t-mobile USA
will we get a decent android phone like maybe the HTC DESIRE?
I'm tired of moto selling their motoblur devices running android 1.5, have low specs, and just downright old and outdated.
I'm guessing my october if they aren't any good android devices on t-mobile I have to go Win-Mo with the HD2
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Good Question!!
On my last conf. call my manager stated that "Android is OLD", lol! Because of the lack of updates from 1.5/1.6 - 2.1.
As of right now, our focus is the Wins Mobile HTC HD2. When i say "our focus", i mean MY SALES TEAM in the Southeast, I am not speaking on the behalf of Tmobile in general. just only my opinion based on my sales team **disclaimer** lol!
NOw, the HTC Desire(only in the UK) can be purchased unlocked (699.99). As a 'rooter' I would rather buy the Nexus One and root the Desire ROM. As a customer, I would still purchase the Nexus One b/c of the price difference.
kuntri said:
Check this out.......
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/05/more-3g-more-3g/
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Every springfield other than Springfield MO is mentioned. Be a secret Ninja and get us some 3g news! Please?
I had the regular cliq before I got the xt, and I'll have to say they xt is WAY better. I never really complained about it running 1.5 because that's what it had when I bought it and I liked it when I bought it. Now I'm getting a little testy about not getting an android upgrade just for the simple fact that there are A LOT of new apps the require 1.6 or higher. It won't be much longer before 1.5 is dead altogether. It's like buying a brand new PC and it comes running windows 98 or something. Alot of stuff just won't work on 1.5 anymore so it's definitely time for an upgrade. I know we're on the list for an update and all that but they said that in March and it never came. I hope this Q2 thing is for real, and the XT is still running Blur version 1.3.11. Will that be updated before the android update? Does it need to be? I'm just wondering why the xt is yet to even get a Blur update. Just a few thoughts. I still really like the phone and after an update I'm sure I'll love it!!
Any way you can post the click xt's music player apk please?
UberMario said:
Since you are part of t-mobile USA
will we get a decent android phone like maybe the HTC DESIRE?
I'm tired of moto selling their motoblur devices running android 1.5, have low specs, and just downright old and outdated.
I'm guessing my october if they aren't any good android devices on t-mobile I have to go Win-Mo with the HD2
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I'm with you on that one. I'll have an HD2 soon as they're back in stock. I've been trying to get one for a month now. I got to play with a demo at the store and it was awesome..
not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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Its not entirely motos fault, its mainly att's fault
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Sigh........ I love this phone, I don't understand why everybody leaves it behind... Goddamn AT&T and Motorola!!
Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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for the phones they have planned now, which is the razr and bionic. it will be a 6-8 months minimum if they choose to upgrade the atrix 2.
by then, jellybean will be releasing...
i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
Im gonna disagree with ya. Coming from the OG ATRIX back when it was running froyo, it got gingerbread when 90%+ was still running froyo. AT&T has been better at pushing updates to their phones then any of the big 3 in my opinion. How many phones has been listed as getting ICS for sure from AT&T? Vivid and Skyrocket? ATRIX 2 was released just before them.
I know you've had problems with your phone. But take away the problems you were having would you still be getting a new phone? I have had zero problems with my phone and would bet that everyone else that has had the same luck would be very content with their phones also.
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not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
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Well.....
Hmmm....
I think it is coming. But as it turns out I sold my Atrix 2 today and decided to move back to CDMA service. I have just not been all that happy with AT&T in my area. SOOoooo, don't laugh. I bought a Samsung Vitality with Muve Music on cricket. It will tie me over and I am excited about the included music service. I am alot better with CDMA over GSM, so it looks like I will be grabbing a razr and getting it over to cricket. so long atrix 2 guys
JRW 28 said:
Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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I agree. If I don't see the Atrix 2 on the second wave of devices Moto has slated to get ICS then I'll start to lose faith.
svtfmook said:
i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
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That's not true, the X10 did get 2.3, officially, through AT&T.
That page hasn't been updated since before ICS code was released. Notice NONE of the new phones are on it nor is our MB865
This page details plans for Android software upgrades only; other various routine updates will be delivered to optimize device experiences and these will be communicated separately when deployed.
A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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This quote was there before the source code to ICS. Notice below where each phone is listed by country. None of those phones are listed nor is ours. What I'm saying is that this page hasnt been updated for some time
Also take note in that statement "as well as any possible additions to this list of devices." See they even State Possible Additions which could equal any number of devices.
honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
svtfmook said:
honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
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I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
jacindc said:
I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
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i've been done with the phone, i went to att on tuesday to exchange, they informed me that there are new phones coming on sunday, i'm waiting to see what is coming and if current models drop in price.
One thing you will notice about the devices that were listed, they are only the Verizon devices. I still believe that we will get ICS on our phones but ATT is usually tight lipped on their updates, they happen, you just don't hear about it. I believe that part of that statement is Verizon marketing.
I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I completely agree.
Personally I feel if moto doesn't want to support the device anymore they should be obligated to unlock the bootloader so we can support it ourselves.
That said. I 100% believe Moto will update
the A2 to ICS.
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I just got a Xoom 2 MZ616 (WiFi & 3G) and I'm wondering what ROMs are compatible.
I'm going to root using Dan Rosenburg's method, hopefully that works.
I'm looking at trying either ICS 2.0.0 by Team EOS or ICS 4.0.4 AOKP, but I don't understand whether I need a Wingray, Stingray, _cdma or _everest build. Can someone please help?
Nothing will work.
You can root your xoom 2 but it's bootloader is still locked.
So you CANNOT install any roms.
no recovery for xyboard and xoom 2
I also have a xoom 2 and this is kind of disappointing, not to mention the fact that it shipped with honeycomb.
Brand new device, fresh out of the oven with a deprecated os. Nice move Motorola.
Guess will have to wait it out 'till Motorola ships ICS for xoom 2 in never-ever-land.
Unfortunately I think from now on I would by devices that already have soaked into the market and have development... Sad to say but we can't rely on manufacturers
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Yeah as they all said, custom ROM's or custom recoveries do not work at all. Maybe one day in the future when Motorola decides to be nice and unlock the bootloader. But for now hang in there with Motorola Honeycomb as its not all that bad.
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Yeah as they all said, custom ROM's or custom recoveries do not work at all. Maybe one day in the future when Motorola decides to be nice and unlock the bootloader. But for now hang in there with Motorola Honeycomb as its not all that bad.
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It's not all that good either lol...although mine is more bearable now I'm using ADW launcher.
As for the bootloader, there's plenty of debate/shouting/general aggression towards Motorola on the Motorola Xoom 2 forums...surely they can't ignore all these complaints? I'm sure that's what happened with the Experia X10 back in the day.
IG =]
I wish I'd researched this before buying. I just took it for granted that I'd be able to root and flash a custom ROM.
Ah well, live and learn and all that I'm very happy with it as-is (rooted w/ADW Launcher) but I eagerly await ICS in some form or other.
What about us who bought the xoom2 through a carrier are we now not only waiting for Motorola to hurry with our ICS but also for the carriers to add their crap too?
Xalies said:
What about us who bought the xoom2 through a carrier are we now not only waiting for Motorola to hurry with our ICS but also for the carriers to add their crap too?
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That will be the case
does anyone have the official SBF file?
i found nothing about this
nothing for xyboard and xoom2
no fastboot files
no sbf
no custom recovery
we only have root
I complained to Motorola about their **** service to customers, I was close to buying the Galaxy 10.1 and wished I had, the Xoom 2 is pretty crap always crashes and should be on 4.0.2 at least..... I'll never buy a motorola product again, they were **** 5 years ago and they are still **** now.
Roll on windows 8 tab!
Deejaykeen said:
I complained to Motorola about their **** service to customers, I was close to buying the Galaxy 10.1 and wished I had, the Xoom 2 is pretty crap always crashes and should be on 4.0.2 at least..... I'll never buy a motorola product again, they were **** 5 years ago and they are still **** now.
Roll on windows 8 tab!
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My unit was updated last november to version 4.0.4.
So far, so good.
But seems that there won't be anymore updates from Motorola to Xoom2/Xyboard tablets.
3a4yI7aTiY said:
no recovery for xyboard and xoom 2
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Recovery works with Safestrap 3.12 for Xoom2.
Fastbootfiles also exist
...Tapatalk
What custom ROMs can be installed on MZ616?
The VP of Motorola confirmed that the Moto X will get an android L update. Considering that the Moto X and the 2013 droids are very similar in terms of hardware, is it likely that the 2013 Droids will also get the android L update?
I know this has no right answer yet but I'm just wondering what you think or believe, I know we can't be sure.
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Pacnet_ said:
The VP of Motorola confirmed that the Moto X will get an android L update. Considering that the Moto X and the 2013 droids are very similar in terms of hardware, is it likely that the 2013 Droids will also get the android L update?
I know this has no right answer yet but I'm just wondering what you think or believe, I know we can't be sure.
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Why wouldn't we? Verizon can't get away with leaving us on KitKat, especially since the RAZR HD and M are running KitKat as well. I think we'd get L and maybe two more major updates after that.
Of course I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the phones will get the L update, but not the 2016 M update. It's probable that it will take a while to get the L update, sometime next year in Q1 or Q2, hopefully after there is a .1 or .2 update to fix the inevitable bugs.