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What I found on Anker battery..is this the real capacity?

I just received my Anker battery from Laptopmate (ebay) today.
And surprisingly when I look on the cover, it seems there is a print out that is transparent from the back..and it shows number 1700.
Does it mean the real capacity of this Anker battery is only 1700 mAh?
The whole printout reads:
H0545148AR
TIF09NF1700 (I can't read clearly the first 3 letter on this second line)
Can anybody who receive this battery confirm this?
Does yours also show similar printout?
I attached the pictures for you to see.

Very interesting, I was going to ask someone whether they would tear off the labels on their batteries to look for serial numbers.
I've purchased 3rd party batteries in the past that had labeled capacities that were exaggerated versus the data sheet corresponding to the serial number printed underneath the label.
I believe that 545148AR may correspond to the battery listed in this document,
wenku.baidu.com/view/1b02a2205901020207409cc1.html
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Here is a description of the datasheet from a different datasheet I have from the same company.
Notes:
1.Rated capacities of above batteries are measured according to the following conditions:
under 20+5℃, battery is charged to 4.2V with constant current of 0.2C5mA, and charged continuously with
constant voltage of 4.2V until the charged current is 0.01 C5mA., then discharged to the voltage of 3.00V
with constant current of 0.2 C5mA.
2.Under 20+5℃, 65±5%RH, rated capacities less than 1000mAh, it can be charged to 4.2V with constant
current of 1 C5mA, and then, charged continuously with constant voltage of 4.2V until the charged current is
less than 0.01 C5mA, then battery can be discharged to the voltage of 3.00V with constant current 1 C5mA.
The discharging time is not less than 54 minutes (or capacity is not less then 90% rated capacity); rated
capacities more than 1000mAh, it can be charged to 4.2V with constant current of 0.5 C5mA, and then,
charged continuously with constant voltage of 4.2V until the charged current is less than 0.01 C 5mA, then
battery can be discharged to the voltage of 3.00V with constant current 0.5 C5mA.The discharging time is
not less than 108 minutes (or capacity is not less then 90% rated capacity)
3.Among models of the batteries mentioned above, the battery model labeled R is prismatic battery with
round angle； the one labeled A is the battery whose shell is made of Aluminum；the battery model labeled
S whose shell can is made of steel；the battery model labeled F is a set of explosion-proof；the one labeled
J means the battery is made by automatic line；the suffix of ''H,M,E,L or 1,2,etc" added to the model name
was to sort the capacity of the model which has the same size, and have no meaning else
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It would be interesting if someone can measure the dimensions and weight of the battery and compare it to the datasheet values to determine whether its the same battery or not. If the true capacity is actually 1650mAh, I would not be surprised at all based on my experiences with 3rd party batteries.

Guys I think the biggest thing to keep in mind about these Anker batteries, is that it seems to be a fairly unanimous consensus that these "1900" mAh batts are giving people longer cycles.
I spent a few hours today reading ALL the posts about every 3rd party battery for the Sensation, including the Evo 3D batts that work in the S4G. This Anker seems to have to mostly positive reviews by XDA members. Ya its a roll of the dice....but for under $20 to have possibly 4-7 extra hours....that's well worth it. I purchased one today....when it comes, ill give my results.
That faint number you see, that no one else seems to have noticed in the thread on Anker, could very well just be a random number....who knows.
Main thing....it seems to act like a 1900mAh battery

i have ripped my label off will post picture shortly

west2cool said:
i have ripped my label off will post picture shortly
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here are pictures

Hoping to love this $18.99-worth
I just bit the bullet and purchased this from amazon.com. For the price point as long as it gives any increase in battery life -and- doesn't set my phone on fire, this will be a worthy investment. As a newly converted blackberry user, battery life on android os devices just kills me. When I get the battery I'll post an update.
First post on xda FTW!

why did you feel the need to open a new thread about this when we already got more than one about the anker 1900mah battery?

My only concern with that is that its all just anecdotal evidence, no one here has tested the battery under controlled conditions with the appropriate equipment. Can we really reliably tell +100mAh from +400mAh based on peoples undefined estimates like "light usage, heavy usage", not to mention bias. Ultimately though, it probably won't matter to people as long as they think they're getting better battery life, which they probably are, but maybe not as much as they think they are.

this may sound werid..i may get flamed at i apologize... but what are the chances that these batteries will blow up compared to the oem htc sensation ones? is it really made out of high quality?

+1
I am also very skeptical about the 3rd parties and how they "feel", once again I will direct people to this test, Battery Boss where many popular 3rd party brands are tested to have only 70-82% of advertise capacity.
However every oem battery tested is around ~96% of listed capacity.
Sure its only 10 or $20, but I would rather put that money towards a battery with a 'true' rating.
jim13524 said:
My only concern with that is that its all just anecdotal evidence, no one here has tested the battery under controlled conditions with the appropriate equipment. Can we really reliably tell +100mAh from +400mAh based on peoples undefined estimates like "light usage, heavy usage", not to mention bias. Ultimately though, it probably won't matter to people as long as they think they're getting better battery life, which they probably are, but maybe not as much as they think they are.
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Yes it will blow up definitely
vvilliamm said:
this may sound werid..i may get flamed at i apologize... but what are the chances that these batteries will blow up compared to the oem htc sensation ones? is it really made out of high quality?
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Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Let us not forget that if you turn your HTC battery over, it says...Made In China.
These Anker batteries probably come from the same manufacturer as HTC branded ones.... well it's very possible at least.
Seems like some people think that because it's Chinese...it's inferior to the oem HTC batts. One and same

Hoggles said:
Let us not forget that if you turn your HTC battery over, it says...Made In China.
These Anker batteries probably come from the same manufacturer as HTC branded ones.... well it's very possible at least.
Seems like some people think that because it's Chinese...it's inferior to the oem HTC batts. One and same
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$40 versus $10, one and the same? Maybe, but more likely wishful thinking. Remember you're trusting guys who are lying about the mAh ratings.
http://batteryboss.org/

Well, i can tell you this: Stock my BEST day was 14 hours with two hous of "screen on" (use) time. My first day on an Anker was 14 hours with 3 hours "screen on" (use) time.
Today, my second day on the Anker and I am at 64% at 9 hours with just over 1 hour screen on time. I will leave work in an hour with probably at least 58% left. i NEVER left work with more than 38% with my stock.
Is it a true 320more mAh? Dunno. Do I get better battery life? Absolutely. Worth $21 for 2 batterys and a charger? Most most most definitely.

madwolf27 said:
Well, i can tell you this: Stock my BEST day was 14 hours with two hous of "screen on" (use) time. My first day on an Anker was 14 hours with 3 hours "screen on" (use) time.
Today, my second day on the Anker and I am at 64% at 9 hours with just over 1 hour screen on time. I will leave work in an hour with probably at least 58% left. i NEVER left work with more than 38% with my stock.
Is it a true 320more mAh? Dunno. Do I get better battery life? Absolutely. Worth $21 for 2 batterys and a charger? Most most most definitely.
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If you even get the same battery life as OEM for $10 I'd say it's worth it. If it's significantly better that's a great deal.

Anybody else that has bought one care to post their comments here? Are they worth it in your opinion?

If nobody else has dencided to take up the challange I will, I am going to charge both batteries to full charge, turn the phone on full brightness, Wifi on, and leave a program running (a graphics test ot somthing) and see how both batteries fair.
the only time I can do this mind is over the weekend, if someone else has the time to do it beforehand then feel free buti feel that this would a much better way of judging battery life other than 'High usage', 'moderate usage' ect...
I do however feel I got more battery life from the Anker than the stock battery, so I feel the numbers are simply just part of the product ID and people are flapping over nothing.

HTC Evo 3D Battery confirmed and working

Hello everyone, confirmed the HTC EVO 3D battery works in the Sensation, the shell is exactly the same with writing on opposite sides. I also included the approximate difference in the batteries using BatteryTime Pro. Hope this helps someone with an alternate battery decision.

nice one...just flip it over and go? nice find...ill have to grab one now

poopymt3g said:
nice one...just flip it over and go? nice find...ill have to grab one now
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That's it!

Tacjim said:
That's it!
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Nice! Where did you get the battery from? Online?

graffixnyc said:
Nice! Where did you get the battery from? Online?
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Yes I got it at HTCPedia shop, I'm to new here, it won't allow me to post links. It's 29.99, just type HTC Evo 3d battery in the search function.

Think I'll probably get one. Why not?

does the extra .1v affect it?

nicky041192 said:
does the extra .1v affect it?
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No, It doesn't affect the phone at all...correct me if I'm wrong, the Nominal Voltage is 3.6v for the standard battery which charges at 4.2 volts. The operating voltage is 4.2v (fully charged) and 2.8v (discharged) That being said, your .1v makes no difference to the phone!

Does anyone have a good source to get these cheap?

that app looks awesome. how accurate is it in terms of all the usage stats it shows?

xnifex said:
that app looks awesome. how accurate is it in terms of all the usage stats it shows?
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I needed something on my screen that shows the percentage of battery remaining, I used it with my Nexus One, it works quite well with the Sensation too. With the Sensation you have to put in the battery mAh when changing batteries. How accurate is it? If you look at the screen shot above with the standard battery it show's 8:35 hours of talk time, if you look at the specs of the HTC Sensation at the HTC site, it show's up to 500 minutes which is 8.33 hours. I looked up the talk time on the EVO 3D and it st states 560 minutes or 9.33 hours, considering the Sensation might be a little more efficient, 9:46 hours might be spot on!

Tacjim said:
I needed something on my screen that shows the percentage of battery remaining, I used it with my Nexus One, it works quite well with the Sensation too. With the Sensation you have to put in the battery mAh when changing batteries. How accurate is it? If you look at the screen shot above with the standard battery it show's 8:35 hours of talk time, if you look at the specs of the HTC Sensation at the HTC site, it show's up to 500 minutes which is 8.33 hours. I looked up the talk time on the EVO 3D and it st states 560 minutes or 9.33 hours, considering the Sensation might be a little more efficient, 9:46 hours might be spot on!
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ok I'll rephrase the question: those usage times, are they showing what you actually have or is it showing you estimated times that you could have based on battery percentage?

xnifex said:
ok I'll rephrase the question: those usage times, are they showing what you actually have or is it showing you estimated times that you could have based on battery percentage?
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I can't say yes or no..I've never been on the phone 9 hours, internet for 6 ect..ect..I can say that my phone really uses no power when it's on standby. I might throw on a couple of netflix movies to see how many I can view.

Tacjim said:
I can't say yes or no..I've never been on the phone 9 hours, internet for 6 ect..ect..I can say that my phone really uses no power when it's on standby. I might throw on a couple of netflix movies to see how many I can view.
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Netflix will do the trick. I used it last night to drain my Anker battery. It was at like 35% & took 45 minutes of streaming over data to kill it. Great way to get that first discharge out before you finally charge it up to 100%

Tacjim said:
you have to put in the battery mAh when changing batteries
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I'm going to be devil's advocate for a minute. There's no way to tell the capacity of a battery by taking a snapshot of its current state. If you are telling the app what the mAh is and the battery is charged to 100% then it's making a calculation based on what you told it. It's not actually measuring the true capacity. The only way to determine the capacity of a battery is to fully charge it, then fully discharge it through a load and measure the current. There are no shortcuts, or apps that can do this instantaneously.
As indicated in several other threads the mAh stamped on 3rd party batteries are very unreliable. If you buy a real HTC EVO 3D battery then I'll say it's probable that the mAh is close to the rating, and your test would indicate you may well get more run time on the Sensation. If you buy some other battery then YMMV.
It is good to know that EVO 3D batteries will fit though. Thanks.

samnada said:
I'm going to be devil's advocate for a minute. There's no way to tell the capacity of a battery by taking a snapshot of its current state. If you are telling the app what the mAh is and the battery is charged to 100% then it's making a calculation based on what you told it. It's not actually measuring the true capacity. The only way to determine the capacity of a battery is to fully charge it, then fully discharge it through a load and measure the current. There are no shortcuts, or apps that can do this instantaneously.
As indicated in several other threads the mAh stamped on 3rd party batteries are very unreliable. If you buy a real HTC EVO 3D battery then I'll say it's probable that the mAh is close to the rating, and your test would indicate you may well get more run time on the Sensation. If you buy some other battery then YMMV.
It is good to know that EVO 3D batteries will fit though. Thanks.
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It'S an OEM HTC EVO 3D Battery thanks.

Juice plotter
samnada said:
I'm going to be devil's advocate for a minute. There's no way to tell the capacity of a battery by taking a snapshot of its current state. If you are telling the app what the mAh is and the battery is charged to 100% then it's making a calculation based on what you told it. It's not actually measuring the true capacity. The only way to determine the capacity of a battery is to fully charge it, then fully discharge it through a load and measure the current. There are no shortcuts, or apps that can do this instantaneously.
As indicated in several other threads the mAh stamped on 3rd party batteries are very unreliable. If you buy a real HTC EVO 3D battery then I'll say it's probable that the mAh is close to the rating, and your test would indicate you may well get more run time on the Sensation. If you buy some other battery then YMMV.
It is good to know that EVO 3D batteries will fit though. Thanks.
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You know, I was just thinking abut that same thing. I was under the impression that you had to put in the estimations yourself. I wanted to use it, but I did not know how reliable my guesstimations were.
I use Juice Plotter. It does not do the breakdowns like the app in the picture, but it does a good job giving you a guesstimation. Once you charge it and unplug it it will tell you how much battery it perceives you have left. I primarily use it for the battery drain graph. That is the most accurate thing about it.

Nevermind. Please delete.

that app looked nice so i downloaded the lite version to try with my anker battery see whats the estimated time ...i had this battery for about 4 days works very well and lasts way longer then stock battery very please with anker battery, maybe some one with a CHICHITEC 1900 should check what results he gets
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samnada said:
...As indicated in several other threads the mAh stamped on 3rd party batteries are very unreliable. If you buy a real HTC EVO 3D battery then I'll say it's probable that the mAh is close to the rating, and your test would indicate you may well get more run time on the Sensation. If you buy some other battery then YMMV.
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Well said. That's why I didn't mind plunking down a bit more cash for the EVO 3D battery.

Mi4c Real Capacity of the Battery

Hi to all,
I just wanted to make a debate about the real capacity of our phones batteries.
That's because I found an app that allows us to measure the real capacity and I found a quite astonishing result: it seems like my battery has the same behaviour as a 2200mAh ones!
In fact, with all connection active (Bluetooth, Wifi, LTE, synchronization..) I barely reach 3h of SOT daily.
I used 3C toolbox (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.at.free) using the instructions in this answer (https://android.stackexchange.com/q...ity-of-a-battery-in-mah-received-fake-battery in "How to measure actual capacity using 3C Toolbox").
Also if you can advise different apps and methods to do this, I would be very happy.
Thanks to all!

The real battery capacity is the advertised one. 3000-3080mAh.
Xiaomi uses lower binned batteries which degrade a bit faster over time. An app can't measure the real battery capacity or estimate it accurately. The SOC we have is power hungry and inefficient, that's why it's so hot too.

I think it's 1500 mah or something like that. I get only 2 or 2.5 hours screen on time. The results has been never changed which i've tried several roms.

Cozzmy13 said:
The real battery capacity is the advertised one. 3000-3080mAh.
Xiaomi uses lower binned batteries which degrade a bit faster over time. An app can't measure the real battery capacity or estimate it accurately. The SOC we have is power hungry and inefficient, that's why it's so hot too.
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Well, the app don't measure the battery capacity, but how much current flows in when it's charging.
So you're saying that the main problem is the age of the battery..
Do you think that changing battery may improve the result?

3h sot is normal, when used from morning till evening. When used continually, I get 5-6h sot. An app cannot accurately measure battery capacity. This phone, like many others, is built to last a day with moderate usage...

Brunnys said:
Hi to all, I just wanted to make a debate about the real capacity of our phones batteries.
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Also if you can advise different apps and methods to do this, I would be very happy. Thanks to all!
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Hello, this is a very interesting topic, so I decided to check the real capacity of my Mi4c's battery with one of these. When the phone turned off at 0% I recharged it to 100%, while still off, with the following result: 1.76Ah @ 8.8V as I was using a QC2 charger. Let's translate it to the battery's 3.8V assuming 80% charging circuit conversion efficiency:
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((8.8 * 1.76) / 3.8) * 0.8 = 3.2Ah
My battery is 6 months old and seems to be slightly better than specified.
If you use a 5V non-QC charger try one of these to measure it and assume higher 90% efficiency. Android battery apps are useless, please check it out with a hardware meter...
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I'm already running third battery with my mi4c, all three tested with a similar hardware meter:
1. original battery, but already with signs of being worn out (shutdowns, sudden voltage drops) ~12Wh, not tested as being new
2. aliexpress replacement (getting worn out after 3months of use) ~13Wh
3. some battery I've got at local online shop that seller claims to be original (not 100% sure, but dimensions and weight match the original one) - sligthly over 14Wh
4. -another mi4c, as it was brand new- just over 14Wh from empty to max; surely the battery is in good condition as the one can reach 6h SoT
and I've tried different chargers (QC,non-QC) and no go - no way to see 15Wh or more being transmitted in one charge on both mi4c's I've got at home

Find out about battery behaviour of Nexus 5x, as its specs are very similar to mi4c's and compare battery capacity and standby/sot

andrei80 said:
Find out about battery behaviour of Nexus 5x, as its specs are very similar to mi4c's and compare battery capacity and standby/sot
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And our battery behavior is a lot better.

Should I consider the values from /sys/class/power_supply/bms/ valid?
charge_full = 1983000
charge_full_design = 3071000
Does that mean that my battery capacity is now only ~2000 mAh?
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charge_now_raw reports 2952776 when my battery level is 98%. So something is definitely wrong there.
Writing more stats for comparison:
cycle_count: 20430
resistance: 279541
esr_count: 63
voltage_now: 4223995
voltage_ocv: 4323094
capacity_raw: 9495

adamuadamu said:
...and I've tried different chargers (QC,non-QC) and no go - no way to see 15Wh or more being transmitted in one charge on both mi4c's I've got at home
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Your results are fine but you're not accounting for the efficiency of charging which also decreases with higher...
charger's voltage
meter's internal resistance
connecting cable and contacts resistance
My 15.7Wh on the meter is actually around 15.7*0.8=12.5Wh on the battery.
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Should I consider the values from /sys/class/power_supply/bms/ valid?
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Some of them are definitively valid, others depend on type/firmware version of the control chip integrated in your battery. Here are mine:
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POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=bms
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=51
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_RAW=5143
POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_NOW=432278
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3837410
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_OCV=3874031
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_MAX_DESIGN=4400000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW_RAW=1481002
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW_ERROR=98504
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=3101000
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=3071000
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=285
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP_COOL=0
POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP_WARM=450
POWER_SUPPLY_RESISTANCE=110778
POWER_SUPPLY_RESISTANCE_ID=50306
POWER_SUPPLY_BATTERY_TYPE=x11_atl
POWER_SUPPLY_UPDATE_NOW=0
POWER_SUPPLY_ESR_COUNT=64
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_MIN=1
POWER_SUPPLY_CYCLE_COUNT=0
It was measured with the power gauge at around 55%. My CYCLE_COUNT is surely higher than 0 after 6 months of use, and your CYCLE_COUNT=20430 is simply impossible
I'd more believe your charge_now_raw = 2952776 than charge_full = 1983000.
Incidentally, the simplest way to get these stats is from TWRP in ADB:
Code:
adb shell cat /sys/class/power_supply/bms/* > bms.txt

Hey guys, long time no see
I did not see the thread, but i went on with my speculations on the same matter.
I bought this from amazon https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00NPVZHAO/ because i wanted to test my day-one mi4c battery.
It has roughly one year and a half.
Well...from 0 to 100% it gets a whopping 1617 mAh (see the attachment).
I was disappointed, but hey, maybe i had a degraded battery to start with, and since i never measured before i went on to buy a new original one.
Well, yesterday it arrived. changed it, discharged to 0%, charged to 100%.
Okay, it's only the first cycle, but...
1800 mAh
I guess advertised capacity is a long way from the real one?
After all, if this is correct my old battery degraded by 10% in 18 months...and that's realistic.
Please tell me i'm wrong.

I bought it for this job and I wait. But unfortunately there is not much hope

Nexus 5x has very similar specs and very similar SOT. Also, the original qc charger is supposed to charge using 5v,9v and 12v, not only 5v. What does that say about your research? Either both manufacturers lie, or you're doing something wrong.
I get anywhere from typical 3h(usage from morning till night) to 6h(continuous movie watching using streaming). For the record...

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Nexus 5x has very similar specs and very similar SOT. Also, the original qc charger is supposed to charge using 5v,9v and 12v, not only 5v. What does that say about your research? Either both manufacturers lie, or you're doing something wrong.
I get anywhere from typical 3h(usage from morning till night) to 6h(continuous movie watching using streaming). For the record...
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I took the photo with the phone disconnected, but i remember that during charging it's at steady 8.91 v and 1.02 A
I'll take new pics after some charge cycles with the new battery and post the results.

alterbang said:
Well...from 0 to 100% it gets a whopping 1617 mAh (see the attachment).
I was disappointed...
I guess advertised capacity is a long way from the real one?
Please tell me i'm wrong.
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Yes, please read my earlier post in this thread.
alterbang said:
I took the photo with the phone disconnected, but i remember that during charging it's at steady 8.91 v and 1.02 A
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Code:
((8.91 * 1.617) / 3.8) * 0.8 = 3.03Ah
Which is exactly as advertised by the manufacturer.
No need to change batteries, your SOT is low because of the awful apps you use. For example, did you know that "uninstalling Facebook app saves up to 20% of Android battery life"? You can still use FB and its notifications without the app - read the article.

k23m said:
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((8.91 * 1.617) / 3.8) * 0.8 = 3.03Ah
Which is exactly as advertised by the manufacturer.
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Thanks @k23m, i felt like a student again but after reviewing your formula you are right.
I though the tool's mAh measurement were already adjusted for the battery's voltage, but as you showed we still need to do some math.
I guess that i didn't need a new battery after all, but now that i have one it's certainly better!
I don't have issues with SoT, i do 5-6h on TS CM13 (i stay on marshmallow for xposed) but i just wanted to test battery degradation.
I will still post new battery results after a few cycles.

alterbang said:
Hey guys, long time no see
I did not see the thread, but i went on with my speculations on the same matter.
I bought this from amazon https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00NPVZHAO/ because i wanted to test my day-one mi4c battery.
It has roughly one year and a half.
Well...from 0 to 100% it gets a whopping 1617 mAh (see the attachment).
I was disappointed, but hey, maybe i had a degraded battery to start with, and since i never measured before i went on to buy a new original one.
Well, yesterday it arrived. changed it, discharged to 0%, charged to 100%.
Okay, it's only the first cycle, but...
1800 mAh
I guess advertised capacity is a long way from the real one?
After all, if this is correct my old battery degraded by 10% in 18 months...and that's realistic.
Please tell me i'm wrong.
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Where did you get the original battery? There are always fake on the internet.

mendocino_610 said:
Where did you get the original battery? There are always fake on the internet.
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ebay battery seller with 20k feedback 99%+ positive.

I never saw the oem parts of xiaomi on the internet but I dont know i hope this original.

[TESTING] 3670mAh Extended Slim Battery

Purchased UNBRANDED 3670mAh battery meant for the G4 Play (we use the same battery), will post SOT information/burn photos here.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Rechar...la-Moto-G4-Play-XT1607-CellPhone/182477310377
Are there any reputable companies making a 3670mAh battery for our phone GK40?

here is moto g5 forum
you think the battery have the same dimensions?

Lithium-Ion 4550 mAh
Attached photos of purchased battery. Battery itself displays as 4550mAh with 3.94V reading from the multimeter. Can anyone identify the maker?
Confirming fitment in XT1676 and powering up, phone functioning properly. Will be doing a few cycles on the OEM battery to compare aftermarket results.

Bah! Of course they only ship to the united states.

where are you bought from? Thanks

omgdwong said:
Purchased UNBRANDED 3670mAh battery meant for the G4 Play (we use the same battery)
Are there any reputable companies making a 3670mAh battery for our phone GK40?
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Attached photos of purchased battery. Battery itself displays as 4550mAh with 3.94V reading from the multimeter. Can anyone identify the maker? Confirming fitment in XT1676 and powering up, phone functioning properly. Will be doing a few cycles on the OEM battery to compare aftermarket results.
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Wow so nice to hear this..! Stock 2.8Ah is so small and barely makes a day. Do tell us updates if your "hack" becomes successful and also share some screenshots..

omgdwong said:
Attached photos of purchased battery. Battery itself displays as 4550mAh with 3.94V reading from the multimeter. Can anyone identify the maker?
Confirming fitment in XT1676 and powering up, phone functioning properly. Will be doing a few cycles on the OEM battery to compare aftermarket results.
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Hiya, any update on this? 4550mAh sounds too good to be true, but I'd love to hear how your mileage has been with this

Any source for that battery which sells to Europe/ Germany. Could not find one myself.

Just ordered this extended battery with 3400mAh which also delivers to Europe.

sambahb said:
Just ordered this extended battery with 3400mAh which also delivers to Europe.
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The auction says 2700mAh

merlinolillo said:
The auction says 2700mAh
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Ups, corrected the link.

sambahb said:
Just ordered this extended battery with 3400mAh which also delivers to Europe.
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Unfortunately it turns out the battery is a fake. It has less capacity then original

sambahb said:
Unfortunately it turns out the battery is a fake. It has less capacity then original
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You did a runtime measurement?

saldor said:
You did a runtime measurement?
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Not a precise measurement. Orginal runs about a day. This one half a day with not much activity. It has a jump from 30% to zero. I had several full charges/ discharges before. And several attempts in trying.

lithium batteries should be kept between 30 and 90 %. It's worse to discharge them.
You could charge to only 80% but 90% is where on most phones the battery statistics reset

NesteaZen said:
lithium batteries should be kept between 30 and 90 %. It's worse to discharge them.
You could charge to only 80% but 90% is where on most phones the battery statistics reset
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Sure, these are recommended usage conditions. But jump from 30% to 0% likely means defective battery, which cannot hold its capacity.
Normal battery should go smooth from 100% to 0%. Well, it may be not a straight line, but under constant average load graph should be near linear.
If it's jumping and suddendly goes 0% it's something wrong with battery. You may still try to calibrate it by full discharge/full charge several times,
but high quality batteries usually don't require it. Also I think high capacity battery must be thicker than original. If not, it's most likely a fake.

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If it's jumping and suddendly goes 0% it's something wrong with battery. You may still try to calibrate it by full discharge/full charge several times,
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Yea, I know. I agree

anyone found a decent battery yet? For Hiking I tend not to carry a heavy powerbank (even not a light one) but a spare lightweight battery... I do not understand why Lenovo is providing a changeable battery but not selling any...

Sorry, been away without notifications. Ran battery for several weeks and notice no significant increase in battery life - had screenshots of usage but unfortunately had a bad flash (Dont use SD as internal storage).
Decided to stick with the OEM battery, and will continue purchasing them if they go out or need to swap. Because of build quality, coping with a dead phone is better than one on fire or overheating.
But if Motorola or Anker releases an extended slim battery...

Is OP6 battery really 3300...?

Hi, just wanted to ask if someone else beside me and my friend got a 3000mAh battery (According to accubattery) after a couple of months, the same happened to another friend of mine with a OnePlus 6T, 3450mAh instead of 3700mAh.
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Accubattery is insanely inaccurate, and takes an estimated guess based on charging cycles. Long story short, the app is garbage and people should stop putting faith in it.

crixley said:
Accubattery is insanely inaccurate, and takes an estimated guess based on charging cycles. Long story short, the app is garbage and people should stop putting faith in it.
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I've already tried to search for a this app, and I found a thread in the OnePlus 5T section where a USB multimeter in, at least, two cases, has shown the same result as Accubattery.
Anyway thanks for the answer, need to find why battery sucks su much on both my friend phone and mine.

I experience the same issue !
Killua96 said:
Hi, just wanted to ask if someone else beside me and my friend got a 3000mAh battery (According to accubattery) after a couple of months, the same happened to another friend of mine with a OnePlus 6T, 3450mAh instead of 3700mAh.
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I experience the exact same issue on my oneplus 6. The accubattery app shows my battery health as 3,046 mAh and design capacity as 3,300 mAh. It has been this way since the day I got the phone (around one month back). I am pretty bummed that oneplus sent me a phone that had only 90% battery life to start with. Is that a problem with the battery or is that a problem with the way the accubattery app reads the results?

stirfries said:
I experience the exact same issue on my oneplus 6. The accubattery app shows my battery health as 3,046 mAh and design capacity as 3,300 mAh. It has been this way since the day I got the phone (around one month back). I am pretty bummed that oneplus sent me a phone that had only 90% battery life to start with. Is that a problem with the battery or is that a problem with the way the accubattery app reads the results?
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Seriously? As stated before it is a calculated capacity. It measures how much goes in and out. While the battery is shipped as 3300 mAh the app can very well vary as it is only roughly calculated and the full capacity is very theoretical as the voltage decreases and is never zero.
You start with 4.35 V = 100 % and end at maybe 3.2 V = 0 %. So you have energy left after your phone as shut down. That's why you get a battery low screen even if your phone has shut itself down. It is not a design flaw and it is not scam.
Also don't forget that different components use different voltages. Transforming them results in wasted energy. Like a power bank that has 10000 mAh in theory only can charge maybe 7000 mAh while the rest is lost in heat.

thank you !
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Seriously? As stated before it is a calculated capacity. It measures how much goes in and out. While the battery is shipped as 3300 mAh the app can very well vary as it is only roughly calculated and the full capacity is very theoretical as the voltage decreases and is never zero.
You start with 4.35 V = 100 % and end at maybe 3.2 V = 0 %. So you have energy left after your phone as shut down. That's why you get a battery low screen even if your phone has shut itself down. It is not a design flaw and it is not scam.
Also don't forget that different components use different voltages. Transforming them results in wasted energy. Like a power bank that has 10000 mAh in theory only can charge maybe 7000 mAh while the rest is lost in heat.
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thank you for your detailed analysis !

It's kind of reassuring because when I bought mine it was second hand and I saw around 3000mah as well! So actually the battery wasn't damaged probably.
It could also be OnePlus which makes the choice to not allow the phone to charge completely so the battery lasts for longer in long term. I Kno Dell does it for example. Then it would be very acceptable. But yeah, maybe it's the app.

Had the same issue with several phones, for example with the S8+, Accubattery showed 97% from day one, after a few weeks it dropped a bit lower still.
The app seems highly inaccurate and I quit using it.
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