Hi,
I'm actually not new to XDA, I 've been a member for about 3 years and used to screw with my old broken HTC G1 all kinds of ways. So ignore the newbie status, I forgot all the old login info and had to re-roll.
Anyway, so now I have a sweet shiny Droid 2 Global that I bought off a ebay for a very nice $149 buy it now in used but excellent condition.
It was listed as unlocked and obviously indeed is because I am running it on Tmobile with a tmob simcard in Dallas, tx. So, I can make calls, internet works and is ok but only on edge (2G), signal is generally pretty good overall.
My questions (after days of searching and reading up, don't tell me to search) Are these:
1. Am I already band unlocked? I can already use tmob's edge/2g, and I can see AT&T's 2g and 3g networks when I search but I can't connect to them or they don't work if I do i'm guessing because i'm on a tmobile sim and obviously can't logon to at&t.
2. If it isn't band unlocked, would doing so unlock tmobile's 3g or is that just straight up not compatible and never going to happen with or without a band unlock?
3. If not with tmobile np, can I get 3g with at&t? Especially since I already can see their 3g network when searching.
4. Wether or not I am running a custom rom or the stocker....
It says it's running 2.4.330 A956.verizon.en.us kernel android version 2.2 kernel version 2.6.32.9 build number VZW
Not sure if this is the stocker or a pre-installed XDA Rom. It boots to a clockwork recovery tool screen too before actually booting into android. Is that something added on or is it on the phone already?
Thanks in advance for any help, so happy to have a badass new phone to screw with.
1. Sure seems like it. You wouldn't be able to use the T-Mobile SIM at all otherwise.
2. T-Mobile uses 1700MHz. The D2G does not support 1700MHz. Period.
3. Yes.
4. 2.4.330 is stock Motorola Froyo firmware.
In your case it would probably be better to SBF your phone to 2.4.29 or 2.4.330, and follow the instructions in the band unlock thread to get you to Gingerbread with band unlock.
Gasai Yuno said:
1. Sure seems like it. You wouldn't be able to use the T-Mobile SIM at all otherwise.
2. T-Mobile uses 1700MHz. The D2G does not support 1700MHz. Period.
3. Yes.
4. 2.4.330 is stock Motorola Froyo firmware.
In your case it would probably be better to SBF your phone to 2.4.29 or 2.4.330, and follow the instructions in the band unlock thread to get you to Gingerbread with band unlock.
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I would be very careful with doing an SBF to an unlocked phone. An SBF would rewrite the radio firmware and very likely undo the unlocking that's in place.
The only way that it would be safe to do so is if he still had the unlock code, then he could just re-unlock and re-apply the band unlocker after SBF'ing.
Thanks for the replies. So I guess i'm looking at switching carriers at some point for the 3g. Honestly the 2g isn't that bad though. Plus I heard that since att failed to acquire tmobile, they ended up cutting some deal to share some att tech with tmobile. So some areas will get 1900 mhz 3g at some point. Probably won't happen to me but oh well.
As for the rom, I don't think I want to update just yet. I have no unlock code since it came that way already.
If I get a code though, since it's already unlocked and rooted (i'm assuming),
Do I just toss the sbf file on an sdcard and run the update? I've installed roms on my old G1 but I don't know the exact process on the D2G yet.
benjmiester said:
If I get a code though, since it's already unlocked and rooted (i'm assuming)
Do I just toss the sbf file on an sdcard and run the update? I've installed roms on my old G1 but I don't know the exact process on the D2G yet.
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SBF files are something else completely. SBF files contain images for every aspect of the phone, from Radios, to the operating system, kernel, and more. Think of an SBF file as a Windows CD. It helps to wipe the entire system clean and installs everything factory fresh.
SBF files reside on your hard drive, and they are flashed to the phone with a Windows app called RSD Lite. The current version is 5.6. There are links to it everywhere around the forums.
projektorboy said:
I would be very careful with doing an SBF to an unlocked phone. An SBF would rewrite the radio firmware and very likely undo the unlocking that's in place.
The only way that it would be safe to do so is if he still had the unlock code, then he could just re-unlock and re-apply the band unlocker after SBF'ing.
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Not sure if you read my post at all.
I stated that the safest bet is to perform everything from the start, including the band unlock process.
Why the hell would someone need the unlock code at all on a device that was already SIM unlocked?
I bought my phone off eBay, unlocked, and I have no SIM unlock code stored anywhere. I SBF'd it at least 20 times by now.
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Not sure if you read my post at all.
I stated that the safest bet is to perform everything from the start, including the band unlock process.
Why the hell would someone need the unlock code at all on a device that was already SIM unlocked?
I bought my phone off eBay, unlocked, and I have no SIM unlock code stored anywhere. I SBF'd it at least 20 times by now.
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Well in this case, this is good knowledge to have. I presumed that an SBF would essentially erase a SIM Unlock because it rewrites essentially every bit of data stored in the phone.
Looks like there's something else going on in these phones when they get SIM unlocked. It's nice to know that SIM unlocks are truly permanent.
I am getting a prompt now for the new OTA update. Will this be safe to do in my phone's current state then? I just keep putting it off for now because I don't want to lose any of the sim unlock or my data ability.
I know it doesn't do much, but I think it might help my battery life which drains 90% every day with only very light use and only 2g data.
It appears that I am going to be stuck on tmobile until 2013 but I can probably deal, or trade it... So I want it to be the best it can be without being fast on data obviously.
SIM lock state doesn't change.
If you're on T-Mobile USA, you definitely have the US band unlock hack performed and if you update you will lose it with no way to rollback to 2.4.x baseband.
90% battery spent per day is normal for Froyo. I get 26 to 32 hours with light use on 3G with WiFi and GPS enabled on stock 4.5.608, used to get 16 hours on 2.4.330.
Hmm, well can I flash the new one. I was reading this earlier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437177
Would that do the trick?
Otherwise, is there a way to stop it from promting me from updating?
If you flash the 4.5.608 SBF image, you'll lose your US band unlock.
To disable OTA:
Rename /system/app/BlurUpdater_VZW.apk, /system/app/BlurUpdater_VZW.odex, and /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip by adding .bak to their names (e.g. otacerts.zip.bak).
Ok, I will rename those for now. I was using Astro and it said permissions no allowing me to rename so so I am going to try another browser app.
So is there nothing I can do to get this update done and get back on tmobileusa? There's a way to band unlock it again isn't there?
How many times needs one to repeat that
USA GSM BAND UNLOCK IS ONLY SUPPORTED ON THE BASEBAND FIRMWARE THAT COMES WITH 2.4.29 AND 2.4.330 FIRMWARE
?
Well that's retarded, thanks motorola/verizon for steering me away from ever purchasing one of you phones again. Looks like I will be trading or selling my phone after all. I had an offer to trade for a samsung vibrant which can be flashed to gingerbread and has a bigger, nicer looking amoled screen that I think I will go ahead and do that. Way to screw up your customer base motorola. I USED to like you guys.
Did you mean: “OMG I'm a US GSM user and I wanted to use a Motorola CDMA handset made exclusively for Verizon on my GSM network and Motorola are such jerks because they won't let me”?
Gasai Yuno said:
Did you mean: “OMG I'm a US GSM user and I wanted to use a Motorola CDMA handset made exclusively for Verizon on my GSM network and Motorola are such jerks because they won't let me”?
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Seriously. I have no idea why he's being such a big baby about this. The phone was designed to Verizon's specifications by Motorola. It was designed to not work with Tmo/ATT from the very start. This was known by everyone at the time of the phone's release.
We were lucky in the first place to even get the ATT/Tmo hack. If someone isn't willing to put in the work to accommodate the requirements of the hack then this phone isn't for you.
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Seriously. I have no idea why he's being such a big baby about this. The phone was designed to Verizon's specifications by Motorola. It was designed to not work with Tmo/ATT from the very start. This was known by everyone at the time of the phone's release.
We were lucky in the first place to even get the ATT/Tmo hack. If someone isn't willing to put in the work to accommodate the requirements of the hack then this phone isn't for you.
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I'm not, man. I already know why this is and have known since about 5 posts ago. BTW I bought this phone off of ebay a month ago and it was 'listed as unlocked for att&t, tmobile etc' WTF am I supposed to think when I read that? Stop projecting your in-depth knowledge onto all people like it's 'common' knowledge. It's not. That's like saying I should know Obama's favorite food or whatever the hell else for example. I don't know that nor do the vast vast vast majority of people. You know who does know that? Somebody who looked it up!
The only way somebody would know that this phone is locked out of tmob's 3g is by looking that up specifically. I would like to point out that I had the phone for at least a week prior to posting at all, all the while reading up on how to get my 3g before the kind folks on the 1st page answered the final question I had about that (which is the only way I know that now). So it took at least a week of researching to discover this.... We should really close and lock this thread since it's just wasting space with my displeasure about this phone purchase. $5 says this whole ordeal is the very reason the guy was selling the phone in the first place!! (He said he was currently using it on tmobile when I asked if it was unlocked for tmob...)
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Hi, I am sort of new here but I know enough to get around on what I need to do, but I am at a stand still...
I bought a US Cellular Touch Pro 2 from Ebay which was "unlocked" supposedly, but my ATT phone card does nothing in it, I can get digital roaming but ATT will not work on the phone.
So my question is, what are the needed steps in order to get my Touch Pro 2 to get working on the ATT network. As far as I know the Security is not unlocked.
Thanks ahead of time,
if you need any other information please ask =D
-Cyanide
Note: I bought an unlock code from Ebay earlier, but since it says its unlocked I cant use the code, unless there is another way to use that code.
if im right and some1 here can correct me if im not. i think u have to sim unlock it for it to work.
My US Cell TP2 came SIM unlocked
Same as above, my us cell tp2 came sim unlocked also
I just got one from ebay, and I had to security unlock it and install appropriate radio to get it working on at&t
Will any of the GSM labeled AT&T work or is there one that's best?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
will it work with umts 850????
do you know if someone got it working????
I just bought three of these off ebay that were 'unlocked'
yes it says 'your phone is sim unlocked' in the security tab but my ATT cards are not working
someone mentioned adding software or something. can someone please show me how to do this asap. we kinda counted on having the phones today.
i bought a us cellular on ebay as well. had to security unlock it. Got code from this site and then bought from olipro. this should help.
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/unlock-the-sprint-touch-pro2-radio-to-get-us-gsm
the first one you have to but then the second link you need to watch to get the imei number before you buy unlock stuff. hope this helps. trin to give back what i learned.
There are two different kinds of SIM Unlocks
There is the stock SIM unlock which allows you to use the sim card for other countries. You click on settings, and sim management and it says the sim is unlocked. However, that does not mean that you can use it with ATT or TMobile here in the united states. Reboot your phone and you will most likely see that your radio says something like 2.10.00WF The WF is what is screwin you over with ATT. You need to pay for and use the SIM unlock from Olipro, (there are tons of links already for it.) and unlock the phone. Then put a WU radio on it. I find that the best one that works for USCC is the 1.96.10WU Radio. It has the least amount of DATA crashes. Hope that helps ya out a bit.
jmy72 said:
There is the stock SIM unlock which allows you to use the sim card for other countries. You click on settings, and sim management and it says the sim is unlocked. However, that does not mean that you can use it with ATT or TMobile here in the united states. Reboot your phone and you will most likely see that your radio says something like 2.10.00WF The WF is what is screwin you over with ATT. You need to pay for and use the SIM unlock from Olipro, (there are tons of links already for it.) and unlock the phone. Then put a WU radio on it. I find that the best one that works for USCC is the 1.96.10WU Radio. It has the least amount of DATA crashes. Hope that helps ya out a bit.
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weird. olinex recomended the 2.32.00wu radio over all the others. but seeing as how my data connection never wants to stay open, maybe i will give that one a try.
Ok so i got the paid unlocking tool and ran it. it appears to have worked.
I then went to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578659
and installed both the us cellular and sprint (the first and fourth link).
was that a mistake?
Anyway it doesnt say att when i put in a non active sim card.
is it still ready to use? also when i install the radios should it be in global or gsm mode or does it matter?
nx_2000 said:
will any of the gsm labeled at&t work or is there one that's best?
Forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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Do not install any of those GSM radios to any CDMA phone!!!!!
You will BRICK IT!!!!1
I got a US Cellular HTC TP2 phone too don't use those ****ing radios!
DaveNavy said:
The US Cellular Version on the TP2 is a CDMA AND GSM PHONE you can flash other ROMS than just CDMA this pork chop has no clue what he is talking about.
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ummm, this is acdma phone with just a extra gsm radio so you can only flash CDMA roms
Wrong??!!! WTF! A troll in this forum?
DaveNavy said:
The US Cellular Version on the TP2 is a CDMA AND GSM PHONE you can flash other ROMS than just CDMA this pork chop has no clue what he is talking about.
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YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FOR TROLLING AND MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!...
Why don't you go ahead buy a CDMA TP2 phone and flash a GSM radio or ROM, go ahead. And make someone record your face and the device. Let's see how you enjoy turning a working phone into a black death piece of hardware that will not respond or do anything.
You better delete your post before someone that doesn't know any better follow your misguided advice and brick their phone!
@DaveNavy,
Read up a bit on this device before advising people. Flashing a GSM rom on a native CDMA device (RhodiumW) is the best and fastest way to end up with a brick. Please make sure about these things before you post anything like this again.
@ all,
Please stop the flaming right here.
egzthunder1 said:
@DaveNavy,
Read up a bit on this device before advising people. Flashing a GSM rom on a native CDMA device (RhodiumW) is the best and fastest way to end up with a brick. Please make sure about these things before you post anything like this again.
@ all,
Please stop the flaming right here.
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I dont think I was flaming. I wa just correcting his mistake
How long did it take after you paid to get the download link?
Works great using windows 7. I am running Att with data smooth now.
Hello All,
I hope someone can help me with this.
I have a TP2 (Sprint) and I need to use it for At&t.
The first thing I did was unlock the device using RhodiumWUnlocker from Olipro (and made my donation ).
I did all steps, and everything went fine. No problems. And it detected AT&T
Then I flashed the ROM with EnergyROM Leo Manila 2.5 WM6.5 v 16Feb2010, By NRGZ28. (File: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar) - Still all well, no problems.
Then it went back to stock and could not detect AT&T. So I flashed the Radio Version: 4.49.25.91 from this thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939.
Now I cannot turn on my phone at all - No "touchpro2" screen, no bootloader, nothing at all. The phone doesn't react to any combinations of buttons to turn on or load up bootloader. When I connect the phone to the computer (Vista by the way) the charging orange light comes on for about 3 minutes then goes off. Then I press the power button and the light comes back on, but nothing else happens to the phone.
Please help!!! Let me know what's wrong and how I can fix it, please!!! I'll make another donation to fix it.
Thanks!
I'm no expert but it sounds like you may have flashed a CDMA Rhodium with GSM firmware. I had a quick look and it seems the Sprint Rhodium is CDMA, you should have a look at the CDMA Rhodium forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
I'm not totally sure of the GSM / CDMA thing because I'm not in the U.S. it's not something I need to worry about.
Good luck dude
Yeah the more I look at this, the more I am convinced this is what has happened.
You used CDMA HardSPL (RhodiumWUnlocker)
Then flashed a CDMA ROM (Energy.RHOD500 ...)
but your mistake was to flash a GSM Radio ROM (I followed the URL you gave and up popped the GSM Radio ROM thread)
I don't know if this is recoverable but searching the CDMA forum would be a good start. You can't be the first person this has happened to.
Thanks for the response, but I am certain I flashed the correct ROM.
*I went to the wingster website
*I selected CDMA ROM's
*Clicked on EnergyROM Leo
*Clicked on Download - Hotfile.com
*Selected this ROM: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar
When I flashed this ROM, the phone loaded up without any issues. The only problem was that I could not make calls because it could not detect the AT&T SIM card. So I flashed the radio shown on the post from xda, and the PC said congratulations, everything is complete and good. At this time, the cell phone rebooted and it just never came back on.
Thanks for the help!!
Thanks MadBeef, I will research the CDMA forum.
The Main ROM you flashed was fine. It's the Radio ROM you flashed that killed it, because your phone is CDMA hardware but now it has GSM Radio ROM on it. That's my theory anyway, I'm hoping someone a bit more experienced with CDMA will be able to chime in.
If you can get back into the bootloader somehow, you should be able to flash a CDMA Radio ROM.
I only read the first line of your problem...sprint to at&t...it can never happen. Sprint is cdma which has no sim and at&t is a gsm which has a sim. You better have insurance so you can run over your now "speed bump" and get a new one.
shenriquez84 said:
Thanks for the response, but I am certain I flashed the correct ROM.
*I went to the wingster website
*I selected CDMA ROM's
*Clicked on EnergyROM Leo
*Clicked on Download - Hotfile.com
*Selected this ROM: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar
When I flashed this ROM, the phone loaded up without any issues. The only problem was that I could not make calls because it could not detect the AT&T SIM card. So I flashed the radio shown on the post from xda, and the PC said congratulations, everything is complete and good. At this time, the cell phone rebooted and it just never came back on.
Thanks for the help!!
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ROM fine.
Radio ROM = BAD.
RHOD400 and RHOD500 are the model numbers for the Sprint and Verizon TP2s respectively. Other carriers also share these model numbers, but those are the big two.
The Radio ROM you flashed however is for the GSM only TP2, not the combo CDMA/GSM TP2 that you have.
Flashing that Radio ROM was a HUGE no-no. Boom.
akademik_acheeba said:
I only read the first line of your problem...sprint to at&t...it can never happen. Sprint is cdma which has no sim and at&t is a gsm which has a sim. You better have insurance so you can run over your now "speed bump" and get a new one.
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You should put a little more time into research before jumping in with the flip comments.
1) Sprint does have SIM cards. I've got one in my hand. (No, they're not used in all phones of course, but Sprint does have their own).
2) The Sprint Touch Pro 2 can very well be used on ATT once it is security unlocked and a patched Radio ROM is flashed. To say "it can never happen" is flat out wrong because it's been happening for a few months.
3) The CDMA Touch Pro 2 models (RHOD400 and RHOD500) aren't just CDMA. They are CDMA/GSM/UMTS worldphones, supporting operation in all three modes.
I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
shenriquez84 said:
I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
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Can you connect to it via a mtty terminal?
I don't know if the SD card flash method would work here. If it were my phone I'd try it, but if it's not getting as far as the bootloader I think the chances are slim Maybe while there is no SIM card in it, give the radio ROM less to do?
Found some CDMA radios here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90342
Sounds like you might be screwed but there's a few ideas you can try. Good luck.
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mtty
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I knew that would get a mention sooner or later uh oh hehe
Sorry, but what's a mtty terminal? That's new material for me...
and as Madbeef said, I have no access to the bootloader screen. I'm pressing all possible combinations of keys, and nothing.
Thanks again.
gamescan said:
ROM fine.
You should put a little more time into research before jumping in with the flip comments.
1) Sprint does have SIM cards. I've got one in my hand. (No, they're not used in all phones of course, but Sprint does have their own).
2) The Sprint Touch Pro 2 can very well be used on ATT once it is security unlocked and a patched Radio ROM is flashed. To say "it can never happen" is flat out wrong because it's been happening for a few months.
3) The CDMA Touch Pro 2 models (RHOD400 and RHOD500) aren't just CDMA. They are CDMA/GSM/UMTS worldphones, supporting operation in all three modes.
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shenriquez84 said:
I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
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this result is based on shenriquez american flag in his pro. basically saying hes in america using an american sprint tp2 and trying to use american att service.
gamescan, if i said it cant be dont its quite obvious ive done research through trials and also working a phone carrier for 3 years before finding a better job...THIS CANNOT BE DONE. the dual mode in the sprint tp2 is ment for when people travel to europe, they can pop their "european sim" in and be on their merry way. european cell towers accept the frequency of the sprint tp2 and establish a connection. the US towers have "locked out" tmo and att from being used in the sprint tp2. the reason why you found att on connection setup was that your phone was basically saying" yes att is here, but your not connecting". shenriquez i followed the link to the radio you flashed before you got "shut off". you shouldnt have flashed a GSM radio on a SPRINT TP2...you are bricked my dude. you gave your phone a seizure man.
shenriquez84 said:
Sorry, but what's a mtty terminal? That's new material for me...
and as Madbeef said, I have no access to the bootloader screen. I'm pressing all possible combinations of keys, and nothing.
Thanks again.
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Google mtty (or search for it on here).
Short version it's text based, but it's pretty much the lowest level access that a consumer can get to a HTC device without ripping the sucker open, manually desoldering the flash chip and putting in another.
If you're not getting the tri-color bootloader screen, there is still the possibility of saving it via terminal commands, but it's not straightforward (and depending on what happened it is certainly NOT guaranteed).
akademik_acheeba said:
this result is based on shenriquez american flag in his pro. basically saying hes in america using an american sprint tp2 and trying to use american att service.
gamescan, if i said it cant be dont its quite obvious ive done research through trials and also working a phone carrier for 3 years before finding a better job...THIS CANNOT BE DONE. the dual mode in the sprint tp2 is ment for when people travel to europe, they can pop their "european sim" in and be on their merry way. european cell towers accept the frequency of the sprint tp2 and establish a connection. the US towers have "locked out" tmo and att from being used in the sprint tp2. the reason why you found att on connection setup was that your phone was basically saying" yes att is here, but your not connecting". shenriquez i followed the link to the radio you flashed before you got "shut off". you shouldnt have flashed a GSM radio on a SPRINT TP2...you are bricked my dude. you gave your phone a seizure man.
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Only it can be done.
With the tools mentioned in this here very forum.
Any many people have done it.
Again, you're not doing your research and making claims that are flat out wrong.
1) The Sprint TP2 hardware does support the US GSM frequencies.
2) The Sprint TP2 hardware does not ship with a SIM lock.
3) The Sprint TP2 hardware does ship with the two US GSM frequencies disabled in software.
4) If you pay for the Olinex security unlocker you can easily flash a patched radio ROM which re-enabled the two disabled frequencies.
About the only correct thing said in the post above is that he should not have flashed a radio ROM from a GSM-only TP2 to a CDMA/GSM combo TP2. The two devices do have different hardware so flashing the wrong drivers *IS* a BAD THING(tm).
But, assuming you have paid for the security unlocker, flashing a Sprint TP2 with an updated radio ROM is stupid easy and once you've done that making it work on ATT or TMO in the US requires nothing more than slotting in an active SIM card and switching the phone to GSM mode.
If you don't know the answer to something, please feel free to ASK about it, but don't make unfounded and incorrect statements. When you state an absolute that is false it just spreads misinformation which makes things confusing for other users, especially those new to the device.
gamescan said:
Google mtty (or search for it on here).
Short version it's text based, but it's pretty much the lowest level access that a consumer can get to a HTC device without ripping the sucker open, manually desoldering the flash chip and putting in another.
If you're not getting the tri-color bootloader screen, there is still the possibility of saving it via terminal commands, but it's not straightforward (and depending on what happened it is certainly NOT guaranteed).
Only it can be done.
With the tools mentioned in this here very forum.
Any many people have done it.
Again, you're not doing your research and making claims that are flat out wrong.
1) The Sprint TP2 hardware does support the US GSM frequencies.
2) The Sprint TP2 hardware does not ship with a SIM lock.
3) The Sprint TP2 hardware does ship with the two US GSM frequencies disabled in software.
4) If you pay for the Olinex security unlocker you can easily flash a patched radio ROM which re-enabled the two disabled frequencies.
About the only correct thing said in the post above is that he should not have flashed a radio ROM from a GSM-only TP2 to a CDMA/GSM combo TP2. The two devices do have different hardware so flashing the wrong drivers *IS* a BAD THING(tm).
But, assuming you have paid for the security unlocker, flashing a Sprint TP2 with an updated radio ROM is stupid easy and once you've done that making it work on ATT or TMO in the US requires nothing more than slotting in an active SIM card and switching the phone to GSM mode.
If you don't know the answer to something, please feel free to ASK about it, but don't make unfounded and incorrect statements. When you state an absolute that is false it just spreads misinformation which makes things confusing for other users, especially those new to the device.
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Prove your lame theory. Links that sprint gsm will connect to US towers. Even links in "this very forum". Different frequencies dude.
My two cents -- as I am new, too -- but I ran into a similar situation trying to update the radio on my Verizon TP2 due to 1X issues. My phone is unlocked as I was running Mighty but decided to return to stock (6.1).
Note: my SIM is not unlocked. If I understand correctly, the SIM needs to be unlocked to be able to install a radio from a different carrier, like Sprint.
[As a side note: I think these forums use the term "radio" a little too loosely because the program to unlock the phone to be able to flash unsigned ROMs is also called a "radio" unlocker.]
Back on topic: I flashed my phone with and unlocked radio 2.23.00WU and the result was similar to what happened to your phone: it did not turn on, orange light was on.
I was able to flash stock ROM back onto the phone using the USB cord and the phone is back to normal. Even though it was basically non-responsive except for the orange light.
My phone is in working order after the wrong radio incident.
I hope this helps.
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akademik_acheeba said:
Prove your lame theory. Links that sprint gsm will connect to US towers. Even links in "this very forum". Different frequencies dude.
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If you believe that you're obviously flat out lying when you make the claim of having worked for a carrier for three years, because no one who worked for a wireless carrier could possibly be this ignorant about how GSM works. It's either that or you're purposely posting false information in a lame attempt to screw with the newbies on this site.
The Sprint TP2 hardware supports all four GSM frequencies - 850, 900, 1800, 1900. You can pull up any spec sheet on the model to see that. This isn't exactly hidden information.
Sprint disables the US frequencies in firmware.
If you are security unlocked you can flash one of the two patched radios in the sticky thread in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578659
Then you toss an active SIM card into the phone and turn it on while in the US. Set it to GSM mode and bam, you're on a US tower.
Your claim is the equivalent of running around screaming "The sky is GREEN because I say it is! The sky can't be blue. That's false!"
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My two cents -- as I am new, too -- but I ran into a similar situation trying to update the radio on my Verizon TP2 due to 1X issues. My phone is unlocked as I was running Mighty but decided to return to stock (6.1).
Note: my SIM is not unlocked. If I understand correctly, the SIM needs to be unlocked to be able to install a radio from a different carrier, like Sprint.
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The phone needs to be security unlocked to flash a different radio. If it is not security unlocked a unsigned radio will cause the boot sequence to fail. Flashing a carrier provided radio will restore the phone to service.
Security Unlocking means setting the phone to SuperCID. It is different than SIM unlocking.
SIM unlocking allows you to use different SIM cards. It does not allow you to flash unsigned radios.
The Olinex unlocker will both security unlock you (SuperCID) and SIM unlock you (if needed).
if device was security unlocked and is detected by pc, most likely it can be recovered by mtty. unlike my case where device was not sec unlocked but its detected by mtty using usb or serial. bad news is it would be very hard to recover, im doing some jtag research first, at least i found the pins but no pinout.
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If you believe that you're obviously flat out lying when you make the claim of having worked for a carrier for three years, because no one who worked for a wireless carrier could possibly be this ignorant about how GSM works. It's either that or you're purposely posting false information in a lame attempt to screw with the newbies on this site.
The Sprint TP2 hardware supports all four GSM frequencies - 850, 900, 1800, 1900. You can pull up any spec sheet on the model to see that. This isn't exactly hidden information.
Sprint disables the US frequencies in firmware.
If you are security unlocked you can flash one of the two patched radios in the sticky thread in this forum.
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thats for a radio not rom. find the cdma rom that allows you to use a gsm sim. you cant use the cdma rom over att network...and that link you posted, there are no success stories in it, only complaints. you have no idea what you are talking about. you sit there posting false statements and trying to sound smart with your handy thesaurus. stop posting false statements lame.
Hello all,
I'm planning on picking up a D2G locally to use on AT&T. So let me get this straight:
1) Buy D2G locally.
2) Flash with 2.4.29 SBF using RSD Lite.
3) I would need to unlock the phone. Can I do this without having an active Verizon account to activate the phone? I realize I can get the code from various resellers but would the phone need to be active on Verizon's network or just previously activated on Verizon's network?
4) Apply the edit cellzealot specified here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16572174&postcount=22
At this point I should be able to use it on AT&T.
5) From what I read I should be able to install and use non-Moto ROMs.
My biggest questions are with steps 3 and 5. Could anyone clarify those steps for me? Is there anything else I should know? Any fixes for the reception issues?
Thanks!
Hi
This is what i have just got done with my D2G and it work great on att . I got 3.6 mb down and 1.8 mb up in NYC . On your step 4 you shoud do this its much easier : w w.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/8942-tbh-us-gsm-band-unlock-droid-2-global-pro-update-zip-public-release.html#post98026
Good luck !
Thanks, warlord002! I read a post mentioning that update.zip but didn't really look into it. Using the update.zip makes this whole thing a ton easier.
Any recommended ROMs?
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3) I would need to unlock the phone. Can I do this without having an active Verizon account to activate the phone? I realize I can get the code from various resellers but would the phone need to be active on Verizon's network or just previously activated on Verizon's network?
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If you're lucky, and the purchased code works, you just input it and that's all.
Sweet, thanks for the help guys.
The phone isn't for me so I'll need a stable, functional ROM. I mean stock's always an option, but if there are better ROMs out there that are just as functional I'd rather use one of those. Suggestions?
Can you please explain step two for someone that is new at cdma phone hacking.
Picking up a D2G tomorrow morning. Are there any updates regarding gingerbread and the old radio? Any GB based ROMs out?
Also any websites that can give me the correct unlock code? Seems like its hit or miss for the most part and only Verizon has them forsure. I guess I'll have to do some social engineering and get that code from them somehow.
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Well, JFYI: if you're on AT&T, you aren't getting Gingerbread.
Otherwise, Gingerbread update was called off and will be released later (“soon™”).
There is the update.zip from that OTA update, which can be installed.
There are some ROMs in development, but not production ready yet (at least on GSM).
Have fun with your social engineering, mostly because VZW wants you to be on a contract for at least 6 months to get the code.
Yeah I guess I'll stick with Froyo for the timebeing.
The social engineering is failing pretty hard. Tried at least 10 reps through different numbers and they all tell me the phone needs to be active on a line. My best bet now is to add some cash to the deal and ask the seller (vzw customer) to have it unlocked for me.
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Many reps are telling me they can't even generate the code if the phone isnt active on their network. How true that is I don't know...
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Picked up a D2G a few hours ago. The seller was nice enough to get the unlock code for me from Verizon!
SBFed to .29, rooted, bootstrapped, radio patched, and flashed to hexen all in an hour or so. No issues whatsoever. The D2G's running great on AT&T so far!
Glad to see a few more folks using this hack. It works well despite a few bugs in the original release build.
i got my D2G this morning, and soon ordered unlock code from ebay.
the seller get me the code IMMIDIATELY, and it works!
and the TBH's band hack helps me a lot. i'm now using t-mobile happily
Pls guys help me! I've just bought MY D2G from ebay, seller send my unlock code from verizon, I put it.. but when I inserted my new t-mobile sim, phone couldn't see any GSM network.. i flashed it already to 2.4.29, so what should I do next?
PLS help me, i really like this phone and dont wanna change it to another..
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Pls guys help me! I've just bought MY D2G from ebay, seller send my unlock code from verizon, I put it.. but when I inserted my new t-mobile sim, phone couldn't see any GSM network.. i flashed it already to 2.4.29, so what should I do next?
PLS help me, i really like this phone and dont wanna change it to another..
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Check here - one more thing to do before you can get T-Mobile on your D2G. Remember you will not be able to get 3G - only GSM, but it will work nicely (and battery life will be great). Don't forget to set the phone to GSM only in the settings - so it doesn't waste power to look for a 3G compatible network all the time.
Apparently you can rip out the radio firmware from TBH's 4.5.606 and still install it via CWM; it works with 2.4.330's baseband.
The question is whether it's possible to make a 2.4.330 update that also doesn't touch the radio firmware, so you could flash 2.4.29 SBF, update to 2.4.330 and then 4.5.606 without touching the baseband, and thus gain Gingerbread with AT&T.
Going through the exact same process! But I can't unlock my phone, I bought it on ebay, the seller said it was unlocked but its not. I tried two of the unlock sim sites with no luck -$20 and two non functioning codes .. Is there anyway to unlock my phone?
Only via Verizon.
you are supposed to be given 2 codes..just in case one of them doesnt work. i got my code form the unlock shack and no problems
Picking up a Droid 2 Global today in hopes of doing the Band unlock hack.
I understand it must be on Froyo to do this, and I am buying from a random/normal guy on Craigslist. In the off chance he upgraded to Gingerbread, could it be reverted to stock Froyo for the hack? I wanna put Hexen on it eventually.
Also, we went back and forth for a while, and he finally told me Verizon gave him the unlock code.
How do I "use" the unlock code and how can I tell if it's working or not?
So basically, it's...
- Buy Droid 2 Global
- Unlock Code
- Make sure its on Froyo and do the band unlock
- Flash Hexen
Am I missing anything? Thanks a lot!
Right.
You can still flash back form 2.3 to 2.2
Just bear in mind the "Unlock" step may prove to be hard to get. Given the fact you live in US, it is likely you could get "a hand" from a friend of yours on Verizon to get it unlocked. Just in case online unlockers can't.
Also - 2.4.xxx firmwares (Froyo) are known to have issues with HSPA connectivity - so called 'radio resets', in other words - be ready for not very fluent experience with this phone.
Personally I'd advise against going this way. Get yourself a Desire Z - much better modding capabilities and no hassle with unlocking/using it on any GSM network anywhere worldwide..
Wanted to make new thread to ensure responses, but don't wanna clutter XDA either so here goes. I'm buying a Droid 2 Global soon for my bro and wanna use with AT&T, so I have some questions
1. Does it matter what SBF or version is on it? I'm under the impression that it can all be flashed to the correct ones that I want to use.
2. Seller does not have unlock code, but he is a Verizon customer (just got iPhone 4S) and has assured me that he will get unlock code with me at meetup.
So basically, how do I reach Verizon/get unlock code (I think I can call 611 with HIS iPhone)? And how do I input it? And how do I know when its complete?
And anyone have a simple guide on how to do the process of flashing and applying the hack? I know its a search away so links would be nice (on mobile)
Thanks a lot XDA
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leobg said:
Just bear in mind the "Unlock" step may prove to be hard to get. Given the fact you live in US, it is likely you could get "a hand" from a friend of yours on Verizon to get it unlocked. Just in case online unlockers can't.
Also - 2.4.xxx firmwares (Froyo) are known to have issues with HSPA connectivity - so called 'radio resets', in other words - be ready for not very fluent experience with this phone.
Personally I'd advise against going this way. Get yourself a Desire Z - much better modding capabilities and no hassle with unlocking/using it on any GSM network anywhere worldwide..
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if im unlocked, on 4.5.608 and N_01.48.00R
will the HSPA still suck?
I dont have an ATT sim right now but did the flashing, etc in case I ever did...
To get the unlock code from VZW, the phone needs to be on a Verizon line of service, and the account must be in good standing for the past 6 months.
As for firmware versions, you need 2.4.29 as the base. I'm not quite sure if it's possible to update to any other version leaving the baseband intact. 2.4.330 won't work.
And yes, HSPA will most probably still suck because it's a problem with the baseband firmware.
I followed
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8326-d2g-gingerbread-hack-for-us-band-unlockers/
to leave the baseband but move forward for the overall rom.
I guess i'll need to get an att sim for the fun of trying out the 'bad' HSPA
I know it basically worked because I could use an available tmobile sim for a basic phone test - no att test as of yet.
Just an FYI. When I had an ATT SIM for testing I regularly pulled 6-7 Mbits tethering on it despite the so called "bad HSPDA+" radio performance of the original firmware versions.
This was freind's mother's SIM who had passed away and was an old basic feature phone plan that I added a 15/month unlimited data feature to when I borrowed it for a few months.
I used it primarily for tethering and testing various radio builds etc. when we were first working on it.
The low bars is a feature of the VZW Global phone configuration and not an actual signal issue.
The radio performance of networks outside the US may vary greatly from user reports and I have no experience with international use, but on ATT the GSM/HSPDA+ performance was generally excellent or at least quite useable.
I gave my old Samsung Galaxy S 4G phone that I had on T-Mobile to my girlfriend and unlocked it through t-mobile to be able to use it on her AT&T network. She placed her AT&T sim card in the phone and I unlocked it. The phone works fine but it will not go past "Edge" speed, is this due to the different network frequencies or is there anything else there can be done so she can get 3g at least? Would I have to Root the phone to be able to do so or is there any other easier ways to go about it? Thanks in advance for your help.
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The phone works fine but it will not go past "Edge" speed, is this due to the different network frequencies or is there anything else there can be done so she can get 3g at least? Would I have to Root the phone to be able to do so or is there any other easier ways to go about it? Thanks in advance for your help.
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I switched to AT&T to get the HTC One X, but I hated that phone (but it had a nice camera), so I got the AT&T Galaxy Note.
I unlocked my SGS4G so I could use it on AT&T to test radio changes, but also I noticed that I only got edge. If I go outside on a really sunny day sometimes I see it get hspa, but I don't think t-mobile phones can get 4G on AT&T's network.
I would expect at most getting edge. The ONE time I did see the phone go to hspa, I still didn't see xfer rates increase. It was slow as hell.
I think the answer is finding the right modem.bin. Our radio device is a little different then the other galaxy s phones, and most of the ones that use this same modem are on t-mobile. I'm hoping to find another phone that uses the same modem on at&t.
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yea, I know... old thead is old.
bhundven said:
I switched to AT&T to get the HTC One X, but I hated that phone (but it had a nice camera), so I got the AT&T Galaxy Note.
I unlocked my SGS4G so I could use it on AT&T to test radio changes, but also I noticed that I only got edge. If I go outside on a really sunny day sometimes I see it get hspa, but I don't think t-mobile phones can get 4G on AT&T's network.
I would expect at most getting edge. The ONE time I did see the phone go to hspa, I still didn't see xfer rates increase. It was slow as hell.
I think the answer is finding the right modem.bin. Our radio device is a little different then the other galaxy s phones, and most of the ones that use this same modem are on t-mobile. I'm hoping to find another phone that uses the same modem on at&t.
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Actually, I was wrong. I was hitting the same stupid build prop thing where you're only on hspa if you're using data. If not it bumps you down to 3g.
AT&T works fine on this device.
AT&T on T-Mo Galaxy S 4G
bhundven said:
Actually, I was wrong. I was hitting the same stupid build prop thing where you're only on hspa if you're using data. If not it bumps you down to 3g.
AT&T works fine on this device.
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Yeah, I just recently moved to AT&T bringing this phone. It shows a 3g status but seems to be as fast as it was on T-Mo but depending on the location. My wife has the same device on T-Mo and we drove from Chicago to Florida finding that usually one of us had a signal.
The visual voicemail isn't available from AT&T on this phone but the basic v/m works
I need help on unlocking my SGS4G for AT&T. Every time I try the app method, it either returns the code as "null" or has some busybox error. And the hexcode method doesn't work because mobile terminal can't find the file on my phone. I am running Beanstalk 4.4 ROM, and it is rooted. How can I unlock it?
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I need help on unlocking my SGS4G for AT&T. Every time I try the app method, it either returns the code as "null" or has some busybox error. And the hexcode method doesn't work because mobile terminal can't find the file on my phone. I am running Beanstalk 4.4 ROM, and it is rooted. How can I unlock it?
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Try going back to BML and unlocking there as the methods that you'll find on this forum are more reliable that way.
This is one of the free methods I have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419468
If you still can't get it to work, I do have a paid app on Google Play that can work for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243585
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Try going back to BML and unlocking there as the methods that you'll find on this forum are more reliable that way.
This is one of the free methods I have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419468
If you still can't get it to work, I do have a paid app on Google Play that can work for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2243585
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It is on BML, I'll try those methods but if they don't work I'll probably have to flash back to stock, root, and then unlock it.
Bml= stock...
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Bml= stock...
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I've read countless posts on here saying that was just a kernel... Thanks for the correction
@champ1919 is correct, BML refers to stock touchwiz roms. I recommended that because although I don't own this phone anymore, I wrote the unlock script a while back and I know it works fine on stock roms if you install busybox from google play, after rooting the phone.
Once your phone is unlocked, any newer roms you install will keep the unlock and if you decide to go back to stock after THAT, your phone will still remain unlocked.
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@champ1919 is correct, BML refers to stock touchwiz roms. I recommended that because although I don't own this phone anymore, I wrote the unlock script a while back and I know it works fine on stock roms if you install busybox from google play, after rooting the phone.
Once your phone is unlocked, any newer roms you install will keep the unlock and if you decide to go back to stock after THAT, your phone will still remain unlocked.
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This seems like the most sure fire way of going about this, I haven't had time to do it yet but I think I'll go with stock then unlock.