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Hello all,
I'm actually considering to give my new Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a Xoom because
of the recent newton ring issue on the screen.
The xoom seems pretty THICK and the display not so good if compared to
the 10.1. But this issue is starting to drive me crazy.
Any suggestion, consideration, opinion?
Regards,
Daemon
Daemon1978 said:
Hello all,
I'm actually considering to give my new Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a Xoom because
of the recent newton ring issue on the screen.
The xoom seems pretty THICK and the display not so good if compared to
the 10.1. But this issue is starting to drive me crazy.
Any suggestion, consideration, opinion?
Regards,
Daemon
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"Hey this samsung sucks and has a crappy screen, someone want to trade their flawless xoom for it?"
Let me know how that works out for you
It sounds pretty bad to me but I think there is a misunderstanding:
I'm not trading it, I'm returning it to the shop.
I'm here to ask for conscious comparisons, considerations, concerns between the 2 devices.
It seems so thick and heavy compared to the galaxy tab, and the screen...
I dunno...asking for a substitution, for a change with xoom or another device or for a refund?
Heeeeelp!
Daemon
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Daemon1978 said:
It sounds pretty bad to me but I think there is a misunderstanding:
I'm not trading it, I'm returning it to the shop.
I'm here to ask for conscious comparisons, considerations, concerns between the 2 devices.
It seems so thick and heavy compared to the galaxy tab, and the screen...
I dunno...asking for a substitution, for a change with xoom or another device or for a refund?
Heeeeelp!
Daemon
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The xooms screen is superior to the gtab 10.1 qhd is higher Res then there amoled crap.
Xooms are thick and heavy, I chose it as the tablet for me for that its sturdy. The galaxy tab 10.1 and icrap 2 seemed light and fragile
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I compared the galaxy tab 10.1 to the xoom display and, frankly speaking, xoom display is far less bright and brilliant than the SGT 10.1 in my opinion.
I really can't find what else I should bet on.
Daemon1978 said:
I compared the galaxy tab 10.1 to the xoom display and, frankly speaking, xoom display is far less bright and brilliant than the SGT 10.1 in my opinion.
I really can't find what else I should bet on.
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That is true, but the qhd has a superior resolution.
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I don't know what you're talking about. Probably the info you have are wrong, because they've both 1280x800, and both are 10.1"...
And the Tab isn't amoled but EPS for high brightness and contrast.
Zac95 said:
That is true, but the qhd has a superior resolution.
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Qhd is for phones...
Vanhoud said:
Qhd is for phones...
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Sigh... the dangers of buzz words. We can all thank apple for their marketing use of "retina display", which led Android manufacturers to using terms like "qHD", etc.
qHD is in reference to phone screen resolutions; there is no "word", as far as I know, for the resolutions found on Honeycomb devices like the Tab 10.1 and the Xoom.
Concerning the Xoom and the Tab 10.1, they have the same resolution; although, as the OP has stated, the Tab's screen, in the opinion of many reviewers and users, seems to be more brilliant and good-looking compared to the Xoom's screen. Motorola is no Samsung when it comes to screen technology, so this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
To the OP: I would weigh which is more important to you immediately and long-term. In the long-term, the Tab 10.1 will be the best device, given that it will, eventually, have pretty much the same software as the Xoom. Given the Tab 10.1's superior hardware, it will probably be the better device. As for right now, the Xoom is getting the 3.2 upgrade starting today, with no word on when other devices will get the 3.2 update (although there was no real announcement about the Xoom US Wi-Fi getting 3.2 today... so we could see a universal 3.2 rollout happening across all Honeycomb devices within a few weeks). In the world of Android, updates are no guarantee, however, with a device like the Tab 10.1, you should be good with updates for at LEAST another 12 months... if not more.
If I were you, I would decide what's more important to you rght now: hardware or software. With Samsung, overall, you'll get a better screen and a much thinner and less cumbersome package. With the Xoom, you'll get faster software updates. It's up to you, though, in the end. Happy choosing!
I'm also a tab 10.1 owner considering to grab a Motorola xoom my reasons:
Price. The xoom just dropped to $499.
Storage. xoom 32gb vs tab 10.1 16gb.
Extra ports at no additional cost.
Updates! the xoom will get them first so at least it will get to see ICS. Samsung has been nasty with their updates I'm yet to GB on my galaxy S. I'm running 2.3.4 on my Atrix 4g.
The only cons I could find on the xoom would be weight and screen quality, I dont care about the weight since I have to buy adapters for my tab and that for sure will add more weight to it.
I still have 12 days left on my return policy. I'm still researching pros and cons I still need to find out how the battery life on the xoom compares to the tab 10.1 but I'm 80% sure the tab 10.1 will be going back pretty xoom. lol
It does seem there are two models of XOOMs floating around with different screens. Mine is fantastic, I guess I got lucky and got the good screen.
Battery life is great. I unplug it at 6:30am, do light to moderate use with email, some browsing, words with friends, Pandora, process some payments with Square, use IP Cam viewer a few times a day to see who is at the front door. I will plug it in at night with 30-40% charge left.
On a recent cross country flight, I used it for a few hours on the first leg, and hour during the layover, and five more hours on the second leg, 40 minutes to the hotel (10 hours of travel) and then two hours of email/browsing and had 30% left.
Zac95 said:
The xooms screen is superior to the gtab 10.1 qhd is higher Res then there amoled crap.
Xooms are thick and heavy, I chose it as the tablet for me for that its sturdy. The galaxy tab 10.1 and icrap 2 seemed light and fragile
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LOL QHD on a tablet.
Kid's a noobaki.
Zomg someone made a one letter mistake on the interwebz set phasers to kill
Trolls.....
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xxgmon3yxx said:
I'm also a tab 10.1 owner considering to grab a Motorola xoom my reasons:
Price. The xoom just dropped to $499.
Storage. xoom 32gb vs tab 10.1 16gb.
Extra ports at no additional cost.
Updates! the xoom will get them first so at least it will get to see ICS. Samsung has been nasty with their updates I'm yet to GB on my galaxy S. I'm running 2.3.4 on my Atrix 4g.
The only cons I could find on the xoom would be weight and screen quality, I dont care about the weight since I have to buy adapters for my tab and that for sure will add more weight to it.
I still have 12 days left on my return policy. I'm still researching pros and cons I still need to find out how the battery life on the xoom compares to the tab 10.1 but I'm 80% sure the tab 10.1 will be going back pretty xoom. lol
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I really don't know what's with the crappy screen thing. Look, I'm a painter, and color is very important to me as I use the Xoom as my travelling portfolio.
I want my colors true to life. Oversaturated color is pleasing...I play with it...but it would not show my photos properly. The Xoom (mine at least) has nice, true colors, even at +/- 60% brightness.
Also, it's not heavy when you get used to it...feels sturdy...like a tank.
I am seriously considering getting a SGT 7 Plus. I was going to be patient and wait for the 7.7 but I fear here in the UK that it will release at a silly price. I'm thinking I should save some money and just get the 7+. I have a few concerns with buying the 7+ though. I keeping reading about the problems with the random reboots and also the poor WiFi strength. Am I right to be concerned? I have definitely narrowed my search down to a SGT, it's just a question of which one and if I have to keep waiting for the 7.7 then so be it.
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I am seriously considering getting a SGT 7 Plus. I was going to be patient and wait for the 7.7 but I fear here in the UK that it will release at a silly price. I'm thinking I should save some money and just get the 7+. I have a few concerns with buying the 7+ though. I keeping reading about the problems with the random reboots and also the poor WiFi strength. Am I right to be concerned? I have definitely narrowed my search down to a SGT, it's just a question of which one and if I have to keep waiting for the 7.7 then so be it.
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You are right to have some concern. But also consider that the 7.7 could come with its own host of little bugs too. We just haven't heard about them because its not out yet. At least the 7+ is a known quantity at this point. And fixes are being found for some of the 7+'s known issues.
As far as the two items you mentioned, I can say from my sample of two 7+ tablets (my wife has one too) that my tablet experienced occasional random reboots, whereas my wife's tablet did not. That issue went away, along with the tablet not waking up when the screen would go into sleep mode (aka Sleep of Death or SOD) when I was able to force the wifi to sleep when the screen is off. I have not noticed any issues with wifi strength with either tablet.
Ultimately the decision comes down to you. Is having the slightly faster processor and slightly larger AMOLED screen worth the extra price? Or can the 7+ do everything you need it to do within your budget and do it now?
Good luck on whichever you decide!
Thanks. Just out of interest, your post suggests there are other issues with the 7+. What are they? My worry at the moment is that Samsung price their devices at a premium without actually necessarily being a premium product. On the other hand, they provide what I am looking for (small, light, SD slot, and great battery life).
I suppose my decision would be easier if I actually knew how much the 7.7 was going to sell for here in the UK. I don't suppose anyone has any ideas?
Realistically, I need to wait for the 7+ to drop in price a bit anyway. £349 seems a lot for a device with only a 1024x600 screen when higher res tablets are now around and more powerful tablets are just starting to arrive (e.g. Tegra3 etc).
i have regular sized hands (what a way to start my post! haha). that's why a 7 inch is the best for me. Hardware wise, the GTab 7+ gives me comfort and stability. I haven't encountered any problems so far. Except that I have a P6200 and no one's currently developing anything for it. But i bet that weeks from now, our dev section would be full of Roms and Tweaks.
ALSO ICS is coming to the GTab+. 'Nuff said.
I had the same dilemma as you. I would've waited for the 7.7. But many said that Samsung would be selling it at a premium price! And I think that an upgraded screen and processor is NOT worth it.
And besides. I have "regular" sized hands. Who knows how a .7 inch would affect my comfort.
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i have regular sized hands (what a way to start my post! haha). that's why a 7 inch is the best for me. Hardware wise, the GTab 7+ gives me comfort and stability. I haven't encountered any problems so far. Except that I have a P6200 and no one's currently developing anything for it. But i bet that weeks from now, our dev section would be full of Roms and Tweaks.
ALSO ICS is coming to the GTab+. 'Nuff said.
I had the same dilemma as you. I would've waited for the 7.7. But many said that Samsung would be selling it at a premium price! And I think that an upgraded screen and processor is NOT worth it.
And besides. I have "regular" sized hands. Who knows how a .7 inch would affect my comfort.
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Thanks for that. I feel the opposite though many ways. I think the extra .7 inch might be a good thing for me. I actually prefer the screen size of the 10 inch tablets by far. If it wasn't for the fact that I also want to carry it around too then I'd buy a 10 inch for definite. I thought the 8.9 inch would be a good compromise but they are ridiculously expensive in the UK and they have no SD slot built in. A 7 inch fulfills my requirements and will fit in my bag a lot easier but I do think I'll miss the screen size of a 10 inch at times. It's all about compromises I guess and what suits you best. In an idea world, I would own 2 tablets. One for on the road and one for home use.
The only other issue I have experienced is that I could not write to the external sd card unless I used the stock file manager. That was resolved by editing a permissions file. Other than that my 7+ has performed beyond my expectations.
As with any high tech device there will be some issues to contend with. None of the issues I've experienced would make me think that the Samsung tablet was less than a premium device. Considering it is a relatively new device that's been out for less than two months, the number of issues do not seem to be higher than normal for a new product, in my opinion.
Also be sure to remember that devices that are not functioning properly can usually be returned or exchanged, as long as you shop from a reputable retailer that has an exchange or replacement policy. As always, caveat emptor.
Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
I think that with ics xoom has be come a new talet, but that is only what ive heard and read i have not tried ics myself personally
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I think tablets are becoming like PC's. You don't need the newest core i7 to run most trivial tasks on windows 7 lag free.
You don't need the prime to have a smooth internet experience, use 99.9% of the apps on the market, or in general use ICS smoothly. Do you want the IPS screen + the 1080p support? If so then buy the prime if you desire those things.
I think you are all right. To do web browsing, the Tegra 3 does not seem to perform better than the Tegra 2 (at least, this is what I can see when checking the youtube videos, I couldn't test for real as the Prime WIFI problem nether let me try it in a computer shop !), and that's a surprise as the 5th core of the Tegra 3 was told to be increasing the web browsing experience.
I will not be playing with my tablet, not displaying 1080p videos (not even 720p), if I watch videos they will be small size ones.
All I want to do is browsing the web, displaying photos, modifying Excel / Word files, and in rare case using the tab as a GPS.
But I'm a bit disapointed by ICS : even with a Tegra 3, web browsing is not as smooth as on an ipad.
I don't want to talk about IOS / Android differences, we all know them (I don't want to buy an iPad, I prefer using Android), but I need something perfectly smooth and for now ICS still isn't. I know that Android applications may not be smooth because a lot of them are developped with no Google programming rules respects (so many apps are laggy...) but I was expecting ICS to have all the basic applications such as the web browser to be so well optimised that they could be as smooth as on the ipad.
If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
Browsing with ICS on my Xoom is better than HC. Still not totally smooth, though, to be honest which dissapoints me. I just bought a half-priced Lenovo K1 for the grandkids, and it felt just a bit smoother on HC than Xoom on ICS.
But the Xoom works great with ICS, has strong GPS and WiFi (better than Prime and K1), and half the price of the very flawed Prime. Can't imagine why anyone would buy a Prime given all its problems, and it's going to be obsoleted soon anyway.
Not trying to stir up stuff - I almost bought a Prime, and am very glad that I missed Amazon's first pre-order.
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If anyone else could give me its opinion on how browsing the web does perform on the Xoom compared to the Prime, I would be happy ...
Thanks !
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I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
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I owned a prime and switched to the xoom. I like the Xoom much better because everything works. I had issues browsing with the prime because of the terrible wifi. The hardware in the prime is bad and the connection is unreliable. Aside from the wifi issues, the browsing experience would be very comparable. The prime is not enjoy faster browsing the web. So, the fact that it suffers from wifi connection issues made the choice a no-brainer for me. I grabbed a xoom and I have no regrets. I also saved $100.
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Same situation. I had tried two Prime before returing it for the Xoom. Same as you I had saved well over $100 and All of my hardware is working as it should.
dizzy33 said:
Hello,
I am about to buy a Xoom, the Prime has too many problems for now.
I was watching a video on browsing the web on a Prime (ICS) and could not see any differences with the Xoom running ICS too.
Here is the video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCqKSG1x6s
So here is a question for the actual Xoom (with ICS) owners : what do you think about this video, does the Xoom perform the same when browsing the web ?
Thanks !
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I own both the Xoom and the Prime... not really comparable... the Prime is much faster / smoother and has a better screen.
Don't get me wrong the Xoom is still very nice.. but there is a reason I handed my wife the Xoom and got a Prime for myself
Thanks to all of you. I made a choice : I am now a Xoom owner since a few hours ...
For now I am a bit disapointed as I live in France and there we don't have the possibility to update to ICS yet ... 3.2.1 is quite laggy and slow, I don't like it a lot. But I do really like the Xoom physical design, excellent (just a bit heavy but that's OK).
Just root it and flash stock ICS (stacre) or EOS nightly build. You won't regret it.
just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Its not bad, its just a standard LCD screen.
When compared to an IPS screen on a transformer, xyboard, iPad, or nook tablet you can really see the difference and I'll admit, I get somewhat jealous of those screens.
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Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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why don't you just try the xoom in a shop? Battery is really fine, should be really hard to drain it in less than a day...
about the display: the contrast is a little low, everything else is okay. If you don't place it right next to a device with a better screen, you won't notice it, at least I don't.
kunddizzle said:
just returned my prime because of light bleed, no gps and bad wifi.
Considering the xoom as well, because of the price. Then perhaps upgrade later this year.
How is the battery of the xoom (with ICS) compared to the Prime? almost the same?
Only two things im concerned about is screen quality and battery. Well I know the Primes screen is much better, but is the Xooms screen bad?
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Haven't tried a Prime but the Xoom has really surprised me in a positive way, especially since ICS custom roms became available. It really is a great device - a tad on the heavy side but unless you're walking around with it all the time you'll hardly notice. Long lasting battery and screen is good in full daylight and in complete darkness.
Så bare tag en Xoom
im gonna give Prime another try, if I can get a replacement within a few days.
only thing im concerned about going for Xoom is the screen now.
Look at this comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aEMEtxB4q2M#t=166s
Xooms screen is NOT good (colorwise)! Especially not when I have the Galaxy S2 with AMOLED aswell.
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I went for the Xoom!
Im happy. The Prime is of course a better tablet if everything worked from the start, but when Im spending what is like 900 us dollars on a tablet (Danish taxes included = highest in the world) it has to REALLY awesome and flawless..
The xoom i got for like 300 us dollars (2nd hand), almost as new, really surpriced me. With ICS, and overclocked to 1.2-14 on stock voltage, its really nice!
I can live with the screen quality. But my next tablet will have an OLED screen, so I'm guessing I will look into Samsung later this year.
My advice is. Go for the Xoom if you can find it cheap, and money for value is an issue. Go for the Prime if you dont care about money and is willing to RMA it alot if youre not lucky.
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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I've found my Infinity to be much more stable. My Prime was incredibly unstable and had very bad screen corruption and flickering on the later firmware, downgrading the firmware fixed that issue on the Prime though. The screen on the Infinity is very nice, but you probably won't notice the increased resolution except with text where it makes a very (to me) noticeable difference. The latest firmware update has seems to make multi-tasking smoother and given it a general sensation of being faster. I have a Nexus 7 and Jelly Bean makes everything very liquid smooth feeling so I have every expectation of Jelly Bean giving that same feel to the Infinity. The less tapered edge on the Infinity is actually very nice. It's more comfortable to hold and the micro sd card is completely inside the frame.
All said and done I think the Infinity is everything the Prime should have been. If you can upgrade for <$150 difference then go for it.
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Thanks for the feedback. My prime has been rock solid, other than the app stutter / bluetooth issues that most have experienced. I normally upgrade every 18-24 months. Trying to justify the 7 month upgrade here. Thanks.
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I did the upgrade so that I can compare my Ipad3 to the TF700T as well as wanting a functioning GPS radio. Speed has improved, stability has improved, screen has improved. All of my current applications work well. I have an issue of upgrading from a OTA but others do not so its my specific issue. I have been able to upgrade utilizing the file Asus posts on their service site for each update. As to my Ipad vs. TF700T the screens are for all practical purposes identical. Speed of all functions other than web browsing are identical (I have several applications that are the same function but for IOS or Android). Web browsing is not a tie my Ipad3 is more fluid than the TF700T. I expect that will even out with the release of Jelly Bean for the TF700T. I am waiting until that upgrade to see but if equal after Jelly Beans release then most likely my Ipad3 will be sent to Ebay to get some extra cash for the next Asus tablet release in 2013!
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Glad to here the positive experience when compared to the ipad.
I too upgraded for EUR 105,- and it's worth every cent!
The screen is to much better and sharper. Reading forums in portrait mode is no problem now. On the prime it often got to crappy to read and I had to zoom in.
Furthermore it feels faster and it's definitely more stable.Finally no more Wifi issues and SD card won't eject anymore.
Also HDMI port is better designed.
Just upgrade
stunya said:
I am seriously considering the upgrade from the Prime to the Infinity. Its going to cost me $125-150, but already have the dock so that will make things less painful.
Is the screen, slightly faster processor, and overall experience worth the jump?
Thanks for the feedback.
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I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
Tlbradshaw said:
I upgraded and received my Infinity yesterday. Overall, it is a much nicer tablet. I really think this is what the prime should have been when it launched. I have much better wifi and GPS reception, and the screen is much nicer to look at. Another thing that most people aren't mentioning is that the SD card actually fits in the tablet now!
That being said, I'm still having problems (even after the .26 update) running ShadowGun. The game works fine it I've just rebooted the tablet, but after several applications have been launched, I can't get past the first shot or two before the game freezes. You can still hear the game playing in the background, but the screen bounces back and forth between 2 frames. Maybe someone has a fix?
Anyway, yes, I am happy coming from the Prime.
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I never owned a Prime (cancelled pre-order) so can't compare the two but from all the negative reports from the users, I can definitely say that the 700 is the most worthy successor to the 101. This is my gaming tablet and with just a few exceptions will be loaded with nothing but Tegra 3 games and full HD apps. The speed and resolution of the 700 is just right for 1080p movies, it plays the streamed .mkv files like it was coming from the sdcard! So smooth and lag free.
No way the Prime's 1280x800 can match the 700's display, no contest there but of course there will be an additional power drain to contend with so power regulation is a must.
Glad I switched
I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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I exchanged and updated my 201 for 700 this week. Other than having an issue doing and OTA update (which is a serial number issue again with ASUS! I was able to update manually with no problem) I am very happy I did so. In the last 48 hours I have not had any issues, which I always did with prime. I use mine for work and play although I do not really play intense games on the device. WIFI is tons better and GPS is rock solid. I did compare my screen with my daughters ipad 3 and even she was impressed with the quality. She is an apple fanatic but even she sees where being locked down in the apple OS world has its limitations as compared to android. Glad she learned something in college!
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good deal. first time i wish i bought something from BB...could have upgraded for free. thanks for the feedback.
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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Once my Infinity arrives, giving my Prime to a close family member, rooted with Androwook and chock full of my paid apps.
Thanks for the thread, sounds like it'll be a redeeming (mostly?) upgrade! Now for those roms...
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I exchanged my C1 Prime at Best Buy which GPS was dead when I bought it and ended up with a C7 Infinity. Wifi/BT/GPS were great, however vibration, haptic feedback was dead out of the box. Attempted trying to toggle the settings but still nothing on power up/down, etc. It also couldn't find the OTA when I tried to update and I had to install .26 from my microsd which I take it is this issue here.
Took it back yesterday. Pretty bummed since my major issue with 201 was wifi/BT problems using my headset and music/netflix but it seemed good on the 700. Overall it seemed better than the Prime but that's not saying much .. Asus still has some pretty bad QC in my opinion
I've had my Infinity for a week now since I got my prime refunded. To echo a previous comment in this thread, this is what the prime should have been and what I expected it to be. Everything just works and the screen is absolutely beautiful. My prime never got a GPS lock, and running Bluetooth to my Thunderbolt for Tablet Talk would make my internet slow so an unusable crawl on the Prime. Here on the infinity I can stream music while browsing the web or XDA and texting. Used it successfully a few times for navigation while tethered; got a GPS lock nearly as fast as my phone locks. Plus it fits more snugly in my 201 dock than my Prime did. My only gripe is that the battery has not been quite as epic as my Prime, but it has been more than sufficient for daily use.
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stunya said:
well thanks, thats all the convincing i needed. ordered an infinity about 20 mins ago.
Thanks all!! I look forward to joining the group!!
PS-anyone need a very lightly used prime? HA!
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I'm sure you're already aware, but if not...that if you purchased your Prime tablet from Best Buy you can actually exchange it for an Infinity by way of One year manufacturer warranty.
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I finally pulled the trigger and sold my Prime for the Infinity on Craigslist today. Went to Best Buy hoping to find tf700 with no luck. Fortunately for me the employee I was speaking to was very friendly and found one available at one of the other bb locations 23 miles away! Though a display model I still wanted it. I purchased it ahead of time and drove 23 miles to pick it up. When I got there. They took it off the display and showed me the scratch marks on the back plate and the slab of adhesive they used to keep the tablet connected that they couldn't peel away. Then I noticed that the label says tf201!!!! Mother [email protected]#ker!! The employee that said that they had one available mistakenly thought that that was the tf700 because it was so similar!!! The employee explained it to me and apologized. I said I drove for 45 mins to get here and was assured that you guys had the tf700!!! I was very upset. The guy was scared and looked around... finally he found one in the store!!! It was reserved for someone else that paid online. I ended up with a new tf700 and not a display model!!! Lol Apparently the person that ordered online had cancelled his order after checking the system and I was very fortunate to come out of BB with a brand new tf700!! So far loving the new toy.
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How is internet browsing faster? Thats my problem with the prime sluggish.
LOVE IT
This is what I was expecting when I bought Prime. GPS and Wi-Fi work great. Screen crisp and clear. Camera takes really good pics. Had 2 primes, both had terrible picture quality. Gone into settings a few times and did update check, won't show one. No biggie, I'll d-load and push. Rooted fine.
Only complaint is, battery doesn't last as long as primes did.
Overall, very pleased. Especially since I had best buy damage warranty and they gave me Infinity free.
This is what the prime should have been! WFI,GPS, works. Had it for 24hrs, so far so good
I never really had problems with my prime (except bad GPS and pixels), but I exchanged it anyways for an infinity. I have to say the infinity is really what the prime should have been, the screen resolution is amazing, it's fast, GPS works and I even notice better wifi connections. I had to root the prime and tweak the hell out of it to get it to perform anywhere near what the infinity does right out of the box. Oh and its the first asus tablet I've had the does not have dead pixels.
Hi Shielders,
I'm in the market for an 8 inch class tablet and the Shield 32 GB right now is leading the pack in my analysis. I'm curious to get feedback from owners as to whether you (as users) would recommend it for me based on my needs and use case:
Requirements: 8 inch-ish form factor (check) LTE (not just wifi) (check), at least full HD screen (check) and microUSB support (check)
The thing is, I'm not a gamer, other than the occasional angry birds type thing.
So I'm a bit concerned a game-optimized tablet might possibly be the wrong choice. Mostly I'll use it for web surfing, forum reading, and other general uses. Looking for reasonable battery life, quick response, and a generally good user experience. Prefer stock android or light skin.
I'll be using it on ATT, in places with good or at least adequate ATT signal but no wifi. I hate tethering things to my phone... it gets hot and the battery dies quickly!
So, unless I want to spend $500-600 on a top end Samsung tablet, the Shield 32GB LTE looks like my best bet.
I'm a bit worried that it is out of stock lots of places, presumably either discontinued or nearly so... But I think I can still get it at Frys.
I appreciate any feedback or insights that owners/users could give me! Thanks!
Marc
I am not a gamer either...other than the silly Android games... I love this tablet for what I use it for which like you is surfing the web and stuff. I have had no issues with it other than the latest update has caused the apps to optimise at every start up....but I rarely power it off so not a big deal to me. I do have a controller and HDMI cable and have used both without any hiccups. The controller is great to play beach buggy blitz on the TV! I have watched movies via the HDMI. I find the battery life to be good for my usage...but as stated I am not playing power consuming games. I have the WiFi only version (16GB) and found that wasn't much space even with an SD card so I rooted and remove some stuff I don't use...like Trine2. But with 32 gigs you should be OK.
Thanks!
Is there any buzz about a new version of this tablet? It being about a year old I wonder if something new is just around the corner... Or is nvidia exiting the tablet market?
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Love the Shield tablet lte
I would highly recomend the lte version, for 100 extra you get double the storage and lte and its unlocked! I have great battery on it and usally really good reception. I would just recommend do all the updates before you strart really using the tablet. My only complaint was after i bought it compusa had a closing down sale and they had them at 50 percent off at the end. But even at full price, WORTH IT!
since you are asking...
DO NOT BUY THIS CRAP
I own one and suggested a friend to buy one too.
you can get all the pros from all the reviews in youtube but here comes the truth ( in my case and opinion)
Battery is a joke, with light use, the battery will last less than 8 hours, so be sure to plug it in the car, office, while biking, in the park, and carry a couple of the battery packs.
Do not open chrome. period.
make sure to shut down, wait 1 min then turn back on at least 2 times a day or it will be sluggish and laggy
the good part is that sometimes it does it by itself.... the shutdown part ( good battery)
get ready to RMA, I have done it 3 times and my friend 4 or 5
My RMA
1. Screen flickers
2. RMA had a dark screen, next to another shield tablet both with the brightness at 100 mine was noticeable darker, like if the slider was at 80
3. RMA had a less darker screen but with yellow tint.
My friend.
1. Battery expanded, it popped open the back cover.
2. rma had a dark screen
3. rma had same dark screen with yellow tint
4, same tint
5. waiting on the response of the next rma due to dark / yellow tint
It might be just bad luck, but...
Ughghg. I was just about to order one, as I had no real negatives to doing so. Now this. And since it's end-of-life RMA will probably be a pain.
Back to the search. I'd be curious to hear from others how robust their own experience with the hardware has been. Practical battery life, screen, etc...
My use will be light. Typically less than an hour of interaction time with it a day, no gaming. I'd expect any tablet to last a week or two like this (my old 10.5" Samsung Tab 2 <wifi> goes several weeks on a charge, with <30 mins use per day, often zero use).
Marc
About the issues.
To be fair, im probably one of the lucky ones that got a perfect unit. But as for lag and any software issues, just make sure you are up to date on the latest update. If your on 4.4 it will work great but 5.0 was terrible, 5.02 was better. 5.1 is so much better! Battery is pretty good, lte does affect stand by time. You can always throw it into airplane mode or turn it off. Ive seen the horror stories of bad units,but i dont know how often that is happening. We are in a forum where bad and good get written about. So grain of salt even with my praise of it. Average screen on time for me runs probably 5 to 6 hours with chrome and about 30 percent brightness and on wifi. It works for me, i upgraded from a second gen nexus 7 and then a lte ipad mini retina. I bought the unit from gamestop and with the way thaey do returns it was once i gave them the money it was mine. But really i love the shield tablet, i have the shield portable and planning on the new shield tv box with 500gb hdd, but they gave the ps4 a media player so really iffy on that. So thats my 4 cents? Since i posted twice.
I read online reviews at places like Newegg and so on... it seems that a lot of people have problems with this unit. I'm putting on hold my plan to buy one while I do more research. They cost $400 from reputable sellers like Frys right now. I found it cheaper from some individual sellers or small fly-by-night places (techatrone etc.) but particularly with the problems reported I don't want to take a gamble with ability to RMA.
I may just buy something with a less exciting screen while I await price drops on models with better screens.
I'm actually surprised there aren't a lot of choices in the ~8" WITH LTE class... at least, not that work on ATT.
The search goes on.
Thanks all for your inputs!
I have a lte version since release and never had any problems with it. 6 hrs sot not gaming though. Was always fluent and snappy and now on 5.1 it is better than ever. I wouldn't hesitate a second when I had the choice again.
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Snah001 said:
I have a lte version since release and never had any problems with it. 6 hrs sot not gaming though. Was always fluent and snappy and now on 5.1 it is better than ever. I wouldn't hesitate a second when I had the choice again.
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Thanks for the input.
I've gotten really frustrated looking for a tablet. The Samsung ones are feature-rich but locked down boot loaders and trouble rooting lollipop on the ATT version really turn me off. And the LG G Pad F has a weak screen by comparison.
The Shield is looking good, specs wise... I'm reconsidering buying one from a reputable vendor so I can RMA in case of trouble... The search continues but I'll make a decision this week most likely!
Did you look at the Dell?
Which dell? They have an LTE model that is rootable?
I looked at the Venue 7000 8" model but I don't see a variant with LTE. Am I missing an option somewhere?
I absolutely need LTE service for this tablet.
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I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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As long as you root it and make a few modifications... you should enjoy it!
Make sure you update to 5.1 and unlock the bootloader before you get going. Then you can install recovery and root any time you feel the need.
I've had a good experience with mine so far, except I did RMA because my case had crack, but the RMA process was as good as can be.
The replacement is in perfect condition, and I didn't have much trouble transferring to the new one, so I guess I got lucky.
Frankenscript said:
I took another look at Dell... there don't seem to be any 8" LTE Android models.
After much consideration, I've ordered a Shield 32GB from Frys. Hopefully I'll be lucky and get one without build problems. I will try it out for a week and RMA it if it doesn't work out.
It's amazing that in the 8" class, there are few devices that aren't massively bootloader locked.
Marc
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FYI, 5.1 is not available via OTA anymore until they re-release it after fixes. If you want it, you'll have to do via custom recovery. I just got my RMA (at no fault of the hardware, just software issue on my part) and it came with 5.0.1 and that's the latest for me. I checked the system updates multiple times through the day with no luck on this 5.0.2 that I have read others mentioned.
I advice you LTE version for 32GB storage. Pen is quite good, but not good at all because the tablet hasn't a real digitalizer. Very good for normal users (about 6h screen with Wifi surfing Internet, writing mails and taking photos.. not tested with LTE). Accessories are expensive but I like Shield Cover for its magnetic feature. I advise you this tablet, against Samsung ones, but you should see also Nexus 7 2013 LTE and LG GPad ones. Nvidia doesn't optimize Android system, and sometimes there are moments when the tablet is too slow, but only for a little time.
So far I'm enjoying my Shield 32GB LTE. Works great on AT&T (once I got past the activation fiasco), and it's nice and smooth for me on Android 5.01. I'm not yet rooted or anything non-stock. I'm getting ready for a vacation, so even if a 5.1 update came today, I wouldn't apply it until my return. I'm keeping things nice and stable for the next couple weeks!
I also got the ProCase. It's working fine. I was a bit concerned about the metal clasp scratching the screen, but it doesn't seem to harm it. The design of the case seems to prevent that challenge.
Marc
Have also the 32Gb lte version. As a tab its great and im enjoy using it. Only downside & a really big one is the build quality and build materials. It's my second one after rma the first one because of cracks near the sim & sd slot. The one i have now got also after a whie 1 crack near the sim slot, then some weeks later the second near sd slot. And now 7 months later i have a lot of them and most are near openings of the tab(sd, sim, hdmi, stylus...). I decided to not rma again, cuz im sure it would happen again.