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i ordered captivate knowing there will be nice people to support in this forum but there is none. i posted thread 2 times and both times its deleted without even informing me. i offer people free ps3 games and bluetooth headset still nobody wants to help here with lag fix and downloading rom? worst experience ever.
Sorry..... What?? No help = not asking the right question. You have over 400 posts and have gotten no help?!? weird......
Why would you offer free stuff for help? That just makes you seem like a spammer.
Quit being an idiot, and help yourself.
Captivate, XDA Premium, Cyanogenmod
Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.
im new here on captivate. do u guys really think i would understand all that rom stuff and kies and stuff i dont even know what they are. i dont even know how to root
If you need help with Captivate related stuff, I can help you out. Shoot me a PM.
At the others, if you don't have anything constructive to say, then better to keep quiet and report the thread.
Miami_Son said:
Wow. This place is self service. Have you tried doing any searches or are you just waiting for someone to help you? Threads rarely get deleted. I'm guessing from your original post that you aren't very good at communicating.
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Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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Christo_69 said:
Great words Miami_Son...Lol, it sounds like he's waiting for a personal invite to information that is abundantly available in this forum. 2 months ago I had no idea how to do anything with my Cappy beside make a phone call and now I'm changing ROM's and themes more often than I change my drawers.
Bit of advice there the_ahmadzais, get a clue and quit waiting for someone to ask you if you need help. Read, read, read, read, all the information you need is all here with the click of you mouse. :/
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Captivate is my first android phone. Reading is all I needed to do to get into flashing and custom roms. Rooting can't be any easier with programs like Super One click and the like.
mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
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No bet but IBTL.
mcord11758 said:
Who wants to bet this will get closed soon
Sent from my Captivate using XDA Premium App
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I'm closing it because of all this nonsense talk. I'll repeat what I said above, if you want to be stupid and ridicule the OP rather then lending a hand, then you're better off not posting.
@ the_ahmadzais, probably better off posting in the Q&A.
Ok, I am sure folks have asked this before. I have done a search and still can not find a answer. I am wanting the option in my settings that will allow me to download non market apps.
I have rooted the phone and am running the 2.2 custom rom that I got before AT&T released theirs. When I go into setting to the area that should have the option to allow non market apps, it is not there.
I thought that once you rooted and installed the custom rom, it would give you this option as I know that AT&T blocks this on their firmware / rom.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Obviously you did not do a search and posts like need to be in q&a section. We had this place cleaned up a couple days ago to rid the general of threads like this.
Superoneclick.
mrhaley30705 said:
Superoneclick.
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x2...
You can use this to root, but then also to allow NM Apps. Real simple, just have to have the drivers installed on your computer.
Here's a link for you SuperOneClick
boborone said:
Obviously you did not do a search and posts like need to be in q&a section. We had this place cleaned up a couple days ago to rid the general of threads like this.
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First, This is my first time on this paticular website so knowing the exact area to post is not always the easiest as all forums are different.
Second, I am a member of different tech type forums out there and I would never slam someone like you are doing. The purpose of forums like this is to help people and not to see how big of a "****" you can be to someone.
You should keep in mind that you may need help someday on a product you have and you go online to get a answer and that person acts the way you did and see how you like it.
I have even ran forums before and have kicked people off that acted in this manner.... Just be careful on who you piss off.
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First, This is my first time on this paticular website so knowing the exact area to post is not always the easiest as all forums are different.
Second, I am a member of different tech type forums out there and I would never slam someone like you are doing. The purpose of forums like this is to help people and not to see how big of a "****" you can be to someone.
You should keep in mind that you may need help someday on a product you have and you go online to get a answer and that person acts the way you did and see how you like it.
I have even ran forums before and have kicked people off that acted in this manner.... Just be careful on who you piss off.
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Slow down everyone! No need for drama
Please be more conciderate to new people and act the way you would like people to act towards you when you require help or you're newb. (that's a rule btw.. in some other words)
EDIT: @ OP - SuperOneClick, as mentionned, will do the job perfectly
here try this ..works great...
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
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Ok, I am sure folks have asked this before. I have done a search and still can not find a answer. I am wanting the option in my settings that will allow me to download non market apps.
I have rooted the phone and am running the 2.2 custom rom that I got before AT&T released theirs. When I go into setting to the area that should have the option to allow non market apps, it is not there.
I thought that once you rooted and installed the custom rom, it would give you this option as I know that AT&T blocks this on their firmware / rom.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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After u get superoneclick use the rage... method to allow nm apps
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Droid Explorer works, too
I believe Astro File Manager also has this ability in the Preferences section..
There's no option, it just installs. There is an option in 2.3 though.
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There's no option, it just installs. There is an option in 2.3 though.
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It is due to att removing the option for their devices. If att release a 2.3.3 update you can be sure that it will be removed from there as well. The reason you see it now is that att is the only one that does it and we are working with the euro version
I understand. Every custom rom I've seen just installs even though the option is not there.
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Why can't MIUI Roms be posted posted in here?
I think its because MIUI doesnt want it posted any where but the MIUI site. had the same problem at the G2x threads.. but someone managed to get a thread and link up and keep it up, some how..lol
They can be posted, just not the one from Trip as he's banned from here
Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
BW
I'm running it now!!!!!! Been looking for a good Sensless rom and MIUI has just fitted the bill nicely
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Yes, as the poster above me has stated, this ROM is not allowed on XDA, I have to close the threads referring to MIUI, he has expressly asked that it not be posted on XDA.
I am not allowed to let it on unless he has given permission, if memberskeeep posting this it is violating our rules meaning that I have to give out a lot of infractions. If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
If anyone has any questions, send me a PM or let me know in here
Thanks Guys
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This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397
ems328i said:
This only applies to the port by Trip though right, any other MIUI port is allowed? There are a couple of ports for the Desire S:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194397
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Yes, Trip has asked us specifically not to allow his ROM on here, other MIUI roms that are not by him are fine, and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
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Wait.. So if I want to download MIUI for my phone, where do I find it? The MIUI site doesn't list Sensation in the devices list, and the links here have been removed..
Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon
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Google it - it's not hard if you know the site Paul O'Brien runs...
And MIUI have said they are probably going to do an official version for the Sensation soon
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I wait for this. I try some of ver but have some serious bug on my sensation!
He's kicked out some real kick ass ROMs in a short period of time. MIUI is running VERY well. Totally worth it.
Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations
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Something tells me that Trip has no problems with his ROM being posted on XDA (with all credits to him, of course), but that's only me, I won't talk instead of him. Too bad because his ROM is faster than any other around here, even it is still beta. Come on people, let's make a deal here and enjoy our Sensations
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AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.
Can you give me the link for the miui rom by Paul O'Brien please?
Thanks
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BonesRed said:
AFAIK Trip had no problems with the thread here at XDA and just didn't want mirrors posted, seeing as the thread was just a link to his original thread and seeing as he okay'd it, I don't know why the thread was closed down anyway.
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I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Dont misunderstand me, i dont have a problem with sharing it, i do have a problem with sharing it to a place that kills everything that have something to do with me. That is not how a community should be. Even users who support me there get bashed, they are going to wrong way there.. They always had a great community where you could learn alot and everyone was excepted in there own ways.
There where alot of users helping each other, now the mods control the place on there personal likings. And people just take whatever they need to get more attention then another.
I want to help as much as i can, but giving everything for free to a community that fights against me.. no sorry thats a no go.
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Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749
xnpu said:
I'm pretty sure he does mind. Quote from his current thread on Modaco:
Source: http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...199-released/page__view__findpost__p__1802749
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This isn't going to go anywhere so I will basically just chime in since this has greatly affected me personally. Trip basically is unhappy how users such as myself get trashed for even mentioning his ROM, on XDA. I basically was trying to help a user yesterday, and I mentioned I was using Trips ROM, but was going to offer my help with an installation of an app he had an issue with. I posted a link to that app, and instead of the moderators here seeing I was NOT posting any links to the ROM, but rather to an app, I was trashed by several users saying that I should know better, and then was forced to delete references. I never posted any direct link to Modaco nor his ROM. The link was to an app, I simply googled. Suffice it to say, after posting more than 3100 threads here and helping out literally with 100's of users over the last two years with my Nexus one and now Sensation, I probably at least in the near term will basically help over at Modaco and move on for a while from here. The attitudes of many here totally sour the situation. Especially on a phone that has lack support for so long and has finally gotten to the point of enjoyment with development, past the same old same old copies of Sense Roms we see here from day one. All the developers here brag they have the fastest, slickest, ad nauseum same old Sense ROMs that for the most part are just clones of each other. Sure, I might be offending a lot of the hard working OPs here and I will say I'm sorry I had to make such a statement, since I know a lot of hard work goes into any of this. But now we finally are seeing CM7, and MIUI opening up on the Sensations doorstep and because of the piss and moaning going on here with Trip over issues from the past, we end up with being either near banned, threatened with points actions, told we must delete references that have zero to do with his ROM, but they are afraid that some will just "think" that there are links. The hysteria after yesterday really left a sour taste in my mouth and many other fellow long time XDAers I speak with all the time, that have all basically PMed me stating they could NOT believe how I basically was trashed on a thread here.
Anyways, just wanted to speak my peace. This is NOT on a development thread so hopefully I won't have threats coming at me for speaking my peace. The actions here only hurt a community as a whole.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/346...a-sensational-s002b199-released/page__st__260
You can read there " the thread by t0ny0 in the xda development area is the useful one" ... Does anyone need more proof that he in fact didnt mind the idea of his rom being here?
And even with that - thread was closed. Not cool.
We have the proof that he approves, and still closed...
Sent from my Sensation 4G, that is finally running CM7, using Tapatalk.
Closing the threads just cuz he got banned. Wow. His rom is by far way better than others. MIUI all day everyday!! signature!!!
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If he gives permission, I will happily re-open these thread if this is OK with the Admins.
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and his is also fine if he says that it is allowed on here
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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
edit* side note, miui goes against the entire spirit of cm by kanging cm source then redistributing it closed. i think it should be banned completely.
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Pretty sure THIS negates any reason for deleting t0ny0's thread in the first place.
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Thaaaank you...
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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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Threads like this.
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
Lastly, we have at least 3 other ICS threads why not ask there?
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ismailham said:
Do you think we will ever have ICS on the galaxy s 4g? I mean we saw it on G1, and lots of unsupported phones, and on the galaxy s 1 which doesn't support ICS officially. What is the problem stopping the development ?
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You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
I'm trying really hard to remain "civil".....really I am
FBis251 said:
You haven't downloaded the source code and tried to help us port it. We need your help.
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I like that answer lol
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Why does everybody get annoyed when a regular person just wants to know whats wrong out of curiosity? I don't want any ROM or anything I just wanted a technical answer. is the problem the source code being unreleased? will the company ever release it?
I wish I could help, I would really love to. Its like a dream or long term goal to be a dev, study programming languages etc... but that requires lots of time and I'm just waiting a bit as i'm not sure where to start.
I am sorry for any misunderstanding as I know Devs already have rough days and nights with developing and improving. I wasn't "Demanding" or "pushing" as i'm not that person. I am just seeking knowledge, and if the Q&A section isn't the right place to search for Knowledge then I don't know where is.
The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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The problem isn't with you so much as it is with the million dollar question that's been asked and answered a million times....its the question all devs cringe over when they see it repeated time n time again.
Put yourself in their shoes for a minute.....they put out as much as they can with what they can and people keep popping up this same question like they just aren't happy with what they are getting
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I do understand what you mean, and I already put myself in the dev's shoes and I really admire their work, all of it. But I went through all the threads regarding ICS, and sadly their aim is to push , demand and request stuff from devs as if devs don't have enough on their minds already, and that is really annoying and disrespectful. But not all people are like that. I don't have any requests( I have a Nexus S with ICS, SGS 4g CM7.2) I am just seeking knowledge.
I am really grateful for what each and every DEV offers as it is from their personal and free time. Sorry for any misunderstanding
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To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
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I really thank you for your answer sir. You have helped me a lot, I hope I can lend a hand in any way possible. I will read about kernel/rom compiling. I googled many stuff about a month ago but its so vast and big I sort of got lost and stopped.
Thank you...
Sorry for double posting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V
erikmm said:
Also, the other phones have like a billion and one kernel devs. Not to mention our phone is Sammy's black sheep, by that I mean this phone is way different from other sgs.
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What Thomas posted is true but the main reason we dont have a working ICS port is this statement above.
The op makes a good point, this is the Q&A section. Even tho there are many threads asking this same question most of them have ended up in bashing with nerf bats or a mod locking because of insults. Ive read the other threads, but most people will stop reading when the conversation turns sour. You might actually read the other posts but your mind shuts it down. So a informative post will slip in and you wont catch it.
The biggest problem with threads that ask this question is assumptions. When people stop assuming and start to understand the person asking the question things get resolved.
thomas.raines said:
To answer your question, and anybody else that wants to ask,
It is being worked on. We cannot get ICS to boot due to coding and kernel issues. I semi successfully ported an ICS ROM, but due to all the mods and changes, it felt empty. So we went back to the drawing board and started over. Since we don't have source code, it makes things much more difficult. Be patient. And for the record, the first place to search for knowledge is Google. Fb is right though. We do need more help. The more people we have working on this, the better our chances are. Learn how to compile kernel and ROM from source. Learn scripting. And learn how to Google...
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA
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I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
brandonc0526 said:
I'd like to help, how would I go about doing that?
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jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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thomas.raines said:
jump on irc and go to the teamacid channel this evening...
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Joined too late man. Tried to take a break at work but I couldnt
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Send me a PM when you guys get on
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
scott.hart.bti said:
As im sure most of you all know, I have locked the Unofficial CM10 thread. It isnt because of one person or one event, but something that has been coming for a long time. I have been stressing myself with this build and making sure that everyone was happy and doing pretty much everything i could do, but it didnt seem to be enough. While i appreciate the feedback, it is very disappointing to release cm10.1 when pretty much no other phones have released it (due to the lack of source merged and changes necessary for jellybean 4.2.1) and have nothing but post after post of this doesnt work and this doesnt look right and this is running horrible and blah blah blah even after i made it absolutely clear time after time that there may be issues since there is alot of source changes that are missing. You would think that since i took the time to merge the needed changes and work tirelessly to make changes and get the changes merged into our device/kernel trees to get CM 10.1 built and IMO running nicely, there would be alot of positive feedback and alot of understanding from the community that there may be little issues here and there since not everything was completely merged in on the CM side, but that was not the case as everyone expects perfection right and nothing else. Anyways, with that said, Building CM10 was becoming more of a job instead of something fun that i loved to do. And believe me... I havent had nearly enough donations to be ok with considering this a job... Nor do i expect alot of donations and for those of you who have supported me, I greatly appreciate it. I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
Dani897 said:
you have a charachter flaw. you're a people pleaser. once you get over that and become a true asshole you will be much happier in life.
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Lol! So true!
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Just wanted to put my two cents in...I've been an avid user of the roms from this site for quite awhile now & have never felt the need to register because any issues I've ever had,I've been able to rectify with some searching or have been on roms that have clearly stated they were beta's & expected to have flaws. That being said...after watching what happened on your infuse board, I just wanted to let you know the fact that you're continuing to develop & keep our phones updated with the best features gave me the first true reason to register so I could say thanks...
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Thank You.
I don't blame Scott for having the thread closed, not one bit.
And Dani is correct, Scott's character flaw is only that he's missing the "asshole" gene that some tend to have.
Now on to the good part...
I'm getting back into the swing of things as far as porting and development goes. My first attempt is going to be a nearly pure AOSP build using Aries repos and some Maguro/Takju code base, with parts from the most recent CM10.1 base. I have an idea of what I want to incorporate, but it should be light and clean, with a smooth interface.
Scott, I will be in touch with you shortly on this, as I need to finish and finalize my SDK installs and get everything going correctly for a first build.
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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But Scott specifically asked multiple times not to post bugs on the 4.2/cm10.1 releases due to the fact that source is still being merged -cm said themselves that the 4.2 code would be buggy and that you probably wouldn't be able to build anything with it...for the most part Scott proved both of those wrong
However I do like the idea of the three threads
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openwheelracing said:
Just checked Scotts goo link. Can I safely assume the development continues? If so hallelujah the infuse lives on.
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scott.hart.bti said:
I WILL CONTINUE to build CM10 and posting new builds on my goo page found HERE. I will not however be unlocking the CM10 thread. So... If you like my work and like my builds, keep an eye on my goo page and download when you are notified there is an update. If you like the build, great... if not, flash something else.
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Yes, he will keep developing, but don't expect to see updates on this forum, which is a shame. His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
Thanks for the update, Scott. Don't let the drama llamas get you down
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hattrickinc said:
Most of the people that posted just wanted insight on their issues. Personally, I posted there because I felt I wasn't getting any response in the Q&A thread.
I think we should learn from the miscommunication.
One of the bigger problems we faced was that the build thread was the most responsive place to get an answer, and the bugs people had weren't clearly documented somewhere (you can't tell someone to search 500+ pages, find a bug, match it to their build, etc) so they could find and know NOT to post about it.
Going forward, maybe we can have:
Build thread- keep updated on the status of the build
Bug thread- to review / report the current build bugs
Q&A thread- how do I rotate the screen, why is this doing that, etc
Thoughts?
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For the most part I agree with you. Its why I probably pissed a bunch of people off defending the late comers and those that just don't know about logcats and such.
However, it was stated multiple times by not just Scott but the more senior and knowledgeable members that the 4.2 was going to have problems.
I agree searching through 1000 plus posts can be a daunting task and maybe I just don't have a life but I've done it for every ICS/JB rom I've flashed.. But I was there at the beginning of that development so it made it easier. But you didn't have to read more than 2 pages between warnings for the 4.2.
I'm on Scott's side on this one.
If nothing else click on the op's profile and just read all their posts.
Personally I think only devs should be allowed to post on a dev thread but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I agree. I think there should be a minimum post count of 100 and a requirement to agree to a separate 'contract' to post in dev. threads. I read dev threads to find out what's going on in development not the rubbish that appears in most dev threads. The infuse forums have been fairly tolerant of this kind of thing. Other forums on xda, much less so.
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Changelog
I think another part of the problem is that very little actual development discussion happens here. It seems that people release their stuff here, and respond to bug reports, but that's about it. You can learn a lot about Linux by reading the archives of the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML). It's not quite the same situation here, learning about android is much harder (i have yet to find an android equivalent for the LKML)
Anyway, Thanks for continuing development! Will you be posting a change log between releases? I just like to know what I'm flashing ahead of time
Thanks,
woody
Scotts just released CM10.1 on goomanager 12/10 build go check it out
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Scott,
Glad to see you will be still be developing. Will there be some type of change log somewhere that we can view? I agree with some of the past. 500 pages of posts to read/search is alot. possibly a better brake down would have keep people posting in the correct places. Also with the 4.2 merge MY opionion would have been to make a separate thread as the last 4.1.2 was stable and really usable as its still my current daily. If the items arent merged maybe it isnt a good idea to even make a realease unless its to a few beta testers. That way 100s of people dont whine and complain about known or dumb issues.
Either way keeep up the good work.
Not sure how it would be accomplished, but a good idea would be to remove all posts from the cm10 thread and only scott could post in it (updates/changelog).
I have no idea how feasible that would be though.
Many thanks to scott
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
UnhoIy said:
His CM10 thread was actually the only reason I got on XDA.
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This^
hovin1988 said:
Hi scott, I never felt the need to comment in your thread because I never had any problems with your ROM.
But now I feel the need to comment here to express my gratitude for all the hard work that you have put into this ROM.
Your ROM is the first one that I tried, and also the best one I've seen/used. I'm VERY glad that you will continue your work for the Infuse.
Again, I thank you for your work, and I will be looking forward to future updates!
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I generally just read through the thread reading peoples issues if i ran into one rather than post. Issues were always sorted out if i kept reading. But thanks for all your hard work in creating roms, I know i'd be really bad off without them :good:
I think the communication and forum issues are simply a result of using a forum for "developer collaboration". Then to top it off, many are using tapatalk, which has the most useless search feature ever. I've heard the argument that a proper browser should be used, but many just won't.
As long as a forum is used for xda development, it will continue to be more like a ROM forum than anything else intended without ridiculous amounts of moderation (even judicious use of temp bans without warning).
Forums are good for arguing lol. Bugtrackers are good for tracking bugs, especially since they are easy to police. If you want feedback as well, make a special category for that. Duplicates and invalid reports can be easily identified and marked as such. For all other forums(general, q&a, accessories, etc.) a forum makes sense to me. For the development forum, a forum, IMO, makes little sense.
If the forum format is used in order to foster community, fine. You can expect a lot of drama, arguing, complaining, and everything else that goes along with it.
Just my opinion. I could be completely wrong.
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