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Any real need to root?

I sent my Galaxy S Vibrant through the dishwasher, which didn't turn out particularly well, and the insurance company sent me this G2X as a replacement.
Pleasantly surprised that wifi tethering works out of the box. That was the big point of rooting the Samsung and upgrading first to Bionic (which was awesome) and then to CM7 (which was a big wad of bugs).
Any particular advantage to rooting? LG seems to be much better than Samsung as keeping up with the joneses.

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I recently got my G2x and after following the instructions for installing nvflash and CM recovery I began flashing many different ROMs. I had never done it before and instantly became an addict. My girlfriend who got hers on the same day kept hers stock. Her camera seems to be brighter, mine is faster with a lot less bloat. I did overclock my CPU which so far seems to work well with this phone.

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yelvington said:
I sent my Galaxy S Vibrant through the dishwasher, which didn't turn out particularly well, and the insurance company sent me this G2X as a replacement.
Pleasantly surprised that wifi tethering works out of the box. That was the big point of rooting the Samsung and upgrading first to Bionic (which was awesome) and then to CM7 (which was a big wad of bugs).
Any particular advantage to rooting? LG seems to be much better than Samsung as keeping up with the joneses.
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It is worth rooting if for no other reason than to get all the bloat off. Try tsugi rom. It is super stable and lightning fast.

Just the ordinary stuff:
-adfree
-UV kernels
-set CPU
-battery calibration
Those alone are worth the root.

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After having it overnight I can see the advantage of rooting to clean some of the autostart junk out of /system. A couple of times I've had it essentially lock up and the list of processes shown by ATK (when I can get to run) is insane.

Rooting isn't really required or hardly used. I DO use root explorer to make system changes and rom Manager if you crack flash.
But everyday stuff... Maybe titanium backup but I never used it either. Best to restore apps manually.
Most phones require root to install clockwork mod recovery. With Tegra devices you only need to nvflash which doesn't require root. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash roms and custom stuff without root.
So root isn't really important on the G2x unless you want to use a root required app.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus

I have my phone rooted and tight now only need root for two purposes: 1. I use App Quarantine to freeze unwanted system apps, and 2. I use SetCPU to underclock while the screen's off to save on battery use.
Subtle but important for my phone at least. It all depends on what you use your phone for. Rooting the G2x is pretty easy so it's simple enough to have it if you need it.

Got mine rooted and on CM7. Yes it depends on what you use it for and prefer. I like the custom options that CM7 provide like gestures and specific sound settings etc. In general you do get more freedom to do things and personalize, at the risk of messing it up if you are not careful.

yelvington said:
After having it overnight I can see the advantage of rooting to clean some of the autostart junk out of /system. A couple of times I've had it essentially lock up and the list of processes shown by ATK (when I can get to run) is insane.
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Why are you using Advanced Task Killer?

Rooting can bring many nice things.
Such as better battery life, better phone performance, opening your phone up for countless customization options.
And a great benefit: no more waiting months and months for new firmware from T-Mobile, get the latest and greatest right away.
And that's just what iI know, I'm sure.there's many other ways.
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[Q] What should I do now that I'm rooted?

I'm fairly new to rooting, familiar with jailbreaking (That garbage is too simple and chalked full of ad's). Not sure if the android market should be a main source for rooted apps, or if there's a website I should check out, etc. I'm just looking for lists of things to try, and suggestions by others. Any tuts or starter guides would be appreciated too.

The main thing is flashing a custom Rom. It does wonders for your phone. Just make sure you read the stickies for all the sections. You should be fine if you just read those.
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Here is quick guide that will help on how to.

mossination said:
The main thing is flashing a custom Rom. It does wonders for your phone. Just make sure you read the stickies for all the sections. You should be fine if you just read those.
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What do ROMS offer exactly? Do they include modified kernels? anything like that.

Jonnysoterrible said:
What do ROMS offer exactly? Do they include modified kernels? anything like that.
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Read custom Rom threads. They have every feature they offer listed. Some offer overclock which is a kernel feature. Most have debloated apps. Most have ciq removed. They all offer different things. Like tweaks, different theming, etc...
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I'm still a new Android user myself, coming from iPhone. I rooted and flashed the skyROCKeteer ROM. My phone has been much more enjoyable for me.
Since I've been rooted, I've purchased/installed, JuiceDefender, ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. I'd have to say my biggest change has been the great increase of battery life.

Sur2eaL said:
I'm still a new Android user myself, coming from iPhone. I rooted and flashed the skyROCKeteer ROM. My phone has been much more enjoyable for me.
Since I've been rooted, I've purchased/installed, JuiceDefender, ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. I'd have to say my biggest change has been the great increase of battery life.
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As a technician for Sprint PCS, I see very common software issues with Juice defender. It tends to cause data lockups, and issues with the phone being able to run applications, certain games , etc. Haven't used titan backup, since I don't really horde all my applications.
Are there any decent overclock utilities for the skyrocket? Or do I have to use a ROM with a modified kernel?

Well actually ....overclocking can be much more damaging then juice defender. But yeah you need a custom kernel to overclock.

go the opposite route, this phone is so wicked fast, try undervolting and underclocking, increase battery life

Make a back-up of your phone before performing any mod's or flashing it and manually back-up all photos, videos, bookmarks and etc. that is irrecoverable. Trust me!

[DISCUSSION] Xposed framework on stock vs Custom ROM for Moto G

Guys.. What is your opinion or preferences? Installing Xposed over stock or custom ROM?

Stock - better battery, less bugs, more bloat.
Custom - More features, less battery, bugs, next to zero bloat.

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Stock - more bloat
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There's barely bloatware on stock, and you can simply disable that few bloat that's still there.
Custom - More features
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Barely. There are tons of Xposed modules, you can virtually do everything that you could with a custom ROM, except for a few exceptions.
The only feature I can think of right now that I'd actually use and can't achieve the same thing with an Xposed module is PA's Hover. Obviously there must be more custom rom exclusive features, but I think most of us can find everything in an Xposed module.
With that said, I think you're better off with stock + Xposed, unless you can find a custom rom with a feature that's a must for you and you can't find a similar module.

The only bloatware I can think of on the Moto G are Assist and Care. Not much of a burden, IMHO.

Xposed makes rom slower than a custom rom with same features . Also tweakes in Custom ROM is said to increase battery backup. Gravity Box is a heavy module which takes considerable CPU.

zyberkiddy said:
Xposed makes rom slower than a custom rom with same features . […] Gravity Box is a heavy module which takes considerable CPU.
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Proofs?

SbM_ said:
Proofs?
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I can say from experience that battery consumption on custom roms are a bit lighter then stock with xposed modules running. Let's say I've got a 10,6%/h consumption (just now, 1h screentime doing my standard stuff) while on stock with xposed I had 11,8 to 12,4%/h.

YMMV.

Yes. And battery life is better than stock if you use stock cm kernel. It is also way faster than stock with hardly any bugs.
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Pr3no said:
There's barely bloatware on stock, and you can simply disable that few bloat that's still there.
Barely. There are tons of Xposed modules, you can virtually do everything that you could with a custom ROM, except for a few exceptions.
The only feature I can think of right now that I'd actually use and can't achieve the same thing with an Xposed module is PA's Hover. Obviously there must be more custom rom exclusive features, but I think most of us can find everything in an Xposed module.
With that said, I think you're better off with stock + Xposed, unless you can find a custom rom with a feature that's a must for you and you can't find a similar module.
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I guess it comes down to what you consider bloat. I consider all that Moto crap bloat, and there is quiet a bit of moto crap. Even worst it get's updated and takes of space in system and user. And I am not going to argue custom rom features, that do not exist in stock.

Takenover83 said:
I guess it comes down to what you consider bloat. I consider all that Moto crap bloat, and there is quiet a bit of moto crap. Even worst it get's updated and takes of space in system and user. And I am not going to argue custom rom features, that do not exist in stock.
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I consider those bloat too, but there's not that much of it. Sure you could find 10-15 apps in Settings/Apps/All that wouldn't be there on a Nexus, but if you disable Motorola Assist, Motorola Migrate you're mostly done. There are more Motorola "apps" besides these, but you won't notice any more of them.
If you really need space you can delete them in under 5 minutes, so yeah, I agree that there's some bloat, but it's not that much that you'll need to flash a custom rom. Obviously if you want to flash a custom rom because of some extra features then the lack of bloat is a plus.

Cleaners, which one is the best?

As title says, which one ram/junk cleaners are the best?
I have HTC M8 and I know HTC have its own Boost+, is it worth using?

I like the Smart Booster Xposed module, but it's root/xposed only. When I don't have root, I use CCleaner, i've tried dozens of others and they all seem to include the same amount of extra bloatware, The apps that come from CM (clean master) all have some kind of cleaning utility at the cost of installing maybe a dozen more crapapps.
Maybe there are others that work well but I just use smart booster because all of my devices are rooted right now. If there is something better than CCleaner, that would be great
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Sharp852 said:
As title says, which one ram/junk cleaners are the best?
I have HTC M8 and I know HTC have its own Boost+, is it worth using?
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To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.

Asiance said:
To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.
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Well,i have already Greenify, that is must one ?...and what abiut those .zip flashing tweaks? Worth? Any recommendations?
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Sharp852 said:
Well,i have already Greenify, that is must one ?...and what abiut those .zip flashing tweaks? Worth? Any recommendations?
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I dont know, I never tried flashing tweaks.

Asiance said:
I dont know, I never tried flashing tweaks.
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The "official" TWRP app does it, and does it well. I was looking for one that did the same for CWM, but could not find one.
I have an upside-down TWRP installed into one of my devices, it was the only way to get a recovery installed. I downloaded the image from Needrom and use Carliv's Kitchen to apply the kernel info from my own Stock Recovery. The only problem (other than the GUI being upside down while the touches are rightside up) is, my Stock recovery is 6.5mb and the TWRP is about 13mb. So I don't know what problems that might cause. The Magic MTK TWRP installer won't work because the recovery that it creates is just 100mb bigger. I only use the recovery to root the device, because the slider is easy to figure out where to slide. Everything else is almost impossible to navigate, so the TWRP app comes in handy. I did wipe my Dalvik Cache from the recovery, I think you can do that as well from the app.
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Asiance said:
To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.
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Smart Booster is handy because you can automate it, to clear running tasks and caches at various intervals. Without it, my devices are using about 90% of the RAM, Smart Booster brings that down to about an average 50-60% Depends on what apps you have installed though. You can also Hibernate apps in Smart Booster, so that they don't run until you actually need them, and then they shut down after you're done.

i never trust any cleaner or antivirus apps for phone. I doubt whether they work or not.
sometimes, they even make my phone more sluggish than usual. that's bad

Advice on Getting Rid of Bloatware/Improving Wireless Performance?

I just rooted my phone and now I'd like to get rid of some of the bloatware and maybe as a bonus speed up my wireless performance ( assuming too many bloatware apps trying to connect slows me down ).
What app should I use to strip the bloatware from my phone? I know there are slimmed down roms but I want to stay stock for the moment ...

Haints said:
I just rooted my phone and now I'd like to get rid of some of the bloatware and maybe as a bonus speed up my wireless performance ( assuming too many bloatware apps trying to connect slows me down ).
What app should I use to strip the bloatware from my phone? I know there are slimmed down roms but I want to stay stock for the moment ...
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1) Just wipe device and...
2) Install my rom. It comes completely bloat free and is basically stock other than that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72098300
Done.