I sent my Galaxy S Vibrant through the dishwasher, which didn't turn out particularly well, and the insurance company sent me this G2X as a replacement.
Pleasantly surprised that wifi tethering works out of the box. That was the big point of rooting the Samsung and upgrading first to Bionic (which was awesome) and then to CM7 (which was a big wad of bugs).
Any particular advantage to rooting? LG seems to be much better than Samsung as keeping up with the joneses.
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I recently got my G2x and after following the instructions for installing nvflash and CM recovery I began flashing many different ROMs. I had never done it before and instantly became an addict. My girlfriend who got hers on the same day kept hers stock. Her camera seems to be brighter, mine is faster with a lot less bloat. I did overclock my CPU which so far seems to work well with this phone.
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I sent my Galaxy S Vibrant through the dishwasher, which didn't turn out particularly well, and the insurance company sent me this G2X as a replacement.
Pleasantly surprised that wifi tethering works out of the box. That was the big point of rooting the Samsung and upgrading first to Bionic (which was awesome) and then to CM7 (which was a big wad of bugs).
Any particular advantage to rooting? LG seems to be much better than Samsung as keeping up with the joneses.
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It is worth rooting if for no other reason than to get all the bloat off. Try tsugi rom. It is super stable and lightning fast.
Just the ordinary stuff:
-adfree
-UV kernels
-set CPU
-battery calibration
Those alone are worth the root.
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After having it overnight I can see the advantage of rooting to clean some of the autostart junk out of /system. A couple of times I've had it essentially lock up and the list of processes shown by ATK (when I can get to run) is insane.
Rooting isn't really required or hardly used. I DO use root explorer to make system changes and rom Manager if you crack flash.
But everyday stuff... Maybe titanium backup but I never used it either. Best to restore apps manually.
Most phones require root to install clockwork mod recovery. With Tegra devices you only need to nvflash which doesn't require root. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash roms and custom stuff without root.
So root isn't really important on the G2x unless you want to use a root required app.
-sent from temp HTC Rezound waiting for Galaxy Nexus
I have my phone rooted and tight now only need root for two purposes: 1. I use App Quarantine to freeze unwanted system apps, and 2. I use SetCPU to underclock while the screen's off to save on battery use.
Subtle but important for my phone at least. It all depends on what you use your phone for. Rooting the G2x is pretty easy so it's simple enough to have it if you need it.
Got mine rooted and on CM7. Yes it depends on what you use it for and prefer. I like the custom options that CM7 provide like gestures and specific sound settings etc. In general you do get more freedom to do things and personalize, at the risk of messing it up if you are not careful.
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After having it overnight I can see the advantage of rooting to clean some of the autostart junk out of /system. A couple of times I've had it essentially lock up and the list of processes shown by ATK (when I can get to run) is insane.
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Why are you using Advanced Task Killer?
Rooting can bring many nice things.
Such as better battery life, better phone performance, opening your phone up for countless customization options.
And a great benefit: no more waiting months and months for new firmware from T-Mobile, get the latest and greatest right away.
And that's just what iI know, I'm sure.there's many other ways.
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I asked this in a couple other places, but haven't got any real answers, so let me ask the REAL experts.
So I rooted my D2G yesterday. I also did a Bootstrap backup, did a Titanium apk and data backup and even froze some of the bloatware. Now I'm thinking of getting a ROM and I believe Fission is the best and one of the few options for the D2G.
My n00b questions are:
1) Will Fission or any ROM have any affect on Exchange? Reason being, its a firm phone and my Outlook e-mail, contacts and calendar are 100% critical and if I can't access the Exchange servers, I'll stick to stock with frozen bloat.
2) What are the real benefits to a new ROM and what should I expect besides no bloatware? (e.g., will I need to reinstall a bunch of apps, will LauncherPro play nice with it, etc.?)
3) Are there any other good ROMs to consider with the D2G?
4) With the SBF out there and my backups, are there any concerns to reverse everything back to stock when I exchange my D2G? FYI I need to turn the phone back into my IT department to be used as a loaner, donated or thrown away.
5)Bonus question: Is there anything else I should do with my newly rooted phone?? FYI I have wireless tether, although I didn't fully try it out yet.
Thanks!
where did you get your bootstrapper? do you have a link?
I'm a n00b too lol
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where did you get your bootstrapper? do you have a link?
I'm a n00b too lol
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HERE. Good luck!
1. As far as I know, exchange should work just fine so long as you install the exchange patch from fission rom manager. I have my .edu email working just fine.
2. Extended battery life, less lag, able to start fresh with vanilla android, easier to customize, etc.
3. The only good rom for the D2G atm is fission.
4. So long as you have the sbf, the necessary drivers installed on a windows computer and rsdlite, you should be able to revert back to stock no problem.
5. I personally like to overclock the processor while undervolting it to extend battery life further. You should also look at launcher replacement programs like launcher pro, they really beautify your phone
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1. As far as I know, exchange should work just fine so long as you install the exchange patch from fission rom manager. I have my .edu email working just fine.
2. Extended battery life, less lag, able to start fresh with vanilla android, easier to customize, etc.
3. The only good rom for the D2G atm is fission.
4. So long as you have the sbf, the necessary drivers installed on a windows computer and rsdlite, you should be able to revert back to stock no problem.
5. I personally like to overclock the processor while undervolting it to extend battery life further. You should also look at launcher replacement programs like launcher pro, they really beautify your phone
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Thank you! Especially about the exchange patch information.
Do you really overclock a 1.2gHz processor? As far as battery life, I ALWAYS have an extra battery with me, but if I can get 18 hours on one battery with basically minimal use, I'll be happy as a clam. I don't need to break records, but it appears that even since only rooting it and freezing some bloatware, I might be in good shape.
BTW I have LauncherPro and love it (see the end of #2 in OP).
Thanks again!
I overclock mine to 1350MHz, but I undervolt it as well, I can get a little over three days on one charge, and I have an extra battery, so that's almost a week
I wouldn't suggest it though, the process is overly complex since there isn't an "official" way to do it.
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rusty , can u share your overclocking and undervolt setting??
On droid overclock, I have it set like this:
350mhz, 18mhz
800mhz, 40mhz
1200mhz, 60mhz
1350mhz, 67mhz
As you can see, to get the fsb clock, I basically get the non zero digits for the clock speed and halve it, at least that's the easiest way for me to set it up, I suppose you can undervolt it further, but I haven't found a need to
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Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
Mine seems to be getting laddy. Cant really tell for sure yet why. Apps open slower, such as root explorer and some others.....
Mine too, I have all the same apps installed sense I got it and I font know why but its getting laggy. I have it rooted and has stock. I restart then its on for couple of hours then gets laggy, and I check the processing nothing out of the ordinary.
Sometimes a reboot every once in a while can give a fresh start
Yeah. Im still new at this. Im not rooted and on stock rom. For some reason my phone crashes.
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
slider2828 said:
I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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+1 on Infused 1.5....buttery smooth
Clear memory. Hold home, task man, ram tab, click level 2, and clear. Maybe a temporary fix but it works for me.
I don't have time to restore apps one by one.
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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I just flased it to Infused 1.5. Seems smoother. Ill post back if my phone crashes like before
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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Do you have SPAREPARTS from the market? if you don't download it and go into WINDOWS ANIMATION/set it to FAST and also go into TRANSITION ANIMATION/ set it to FAST as well. this will give you a faster experience.
Backup Apps and Data- Wipe - Don't restore everything at once
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
I think its same as captivate Samsung is doing something on the file system that's why it gets slow after a week
millerja01a said:
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
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as a general rule I automatically disable background updates of every app I install
Infused 1.5 was a big win over stock. Switched to Bionix 2.0 and now on Infused 2.0. I think Bionix was slower but more stable than Infused 1.5 (both Froyo). Infused 2.0 (GB) seems to be faster and more stable though only running it for a couple of days. About to drop in Infusion-GB OC/UV kernel. Looks like it will make it even faster.
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Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
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Can't be sure but it may be that you have too many apps running on. Each widget from a different app runs an app at startup. I just run Battery Monitor Widget.
Lots of other apps run at startup too. Astrid, Skype, and other calendar/messaging apps are included. Some games (eg:"4 in a row") start at boot though I don't know why.
And the stupid Google market has the startup on boot permission hidden.
Some apps allow you to disable auto start, others don't. I tend to delete those unless I really like them.
My new favorite app manager, Gemini App Manager, makes it real easy to find these apps. Just scroll the list of apps looking for ones that have an orange "AU" icon. Gemini App Manager runs better with root but fine without it. And, yes, I know it has an orange "AU" icon next to it. I just think it's worth it.
Many of the complaints I saw from the OP are complaints I've heard frequently about RFS. One of the main reasons why Stock Is Bad.
RFS is so awful that converting it to ext4 has a well-known name - Voodoo Lagfix.
You can also try advanced task manager
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She just doesn't know the real benefit of rooting & installing a custom ROM. my issue is trying to explain the gains.
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She just doesn't know the real benefit of rooting & installing a custom ROM. my issue is trying to explain the gains.
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To name a few:
- Better battery life
- Fewer glitches
- Ability to remove preinstalled apps that you don't want
- More features and options for customization
Yeah, she is a tough cookie. She is one of those that constantly kills app via app killer. I want to explain that is not a good thing to do, but i don't think she will understand. I almost think she isn't smart enough to know the difference.
She needs to see a video to see the difference.
I guess my phone isn't enough to see the difference.
App killers and task managers are also battery killers. You don't need them. She is more than likely coming from using Windows PCs all her life and used to having to kill programs running in the background to make her computer run more smoothly. This is not needed in Android, or Linux in general.
Yep, she had a windows before and it sucked. She think the same with android. I just need to convince her that android isn't the same.
Hello All,
I've got a Droid X with the handy and convenient one-click root method Z4root. However, my wife's Droid Charge is an entirely different story. So far I haven't rooted it because I'm hoping to use that as a last resort (I don't want to brick her phone).
She was having some trouble with battery life, so she bought a Samsung extended life battery. Instead of her phone dying within 4 hours of a full charge it could make it pretty much all day. But this week all of a sudden, even with that, she's back down to 6 hours, if that.
Early on when she got the phone I downloaded Advanced Task Killer for her and gave her some basic tips (low brightness, no mobile data, etc.), but I'm at a loss. I'm not sure if it's the GB update or what. I'm almost ready to root her phone and roll it back to Froyo because I think that's part of the problem, but I'm at a loss. Do you guys have any suggestions? Or is rooting, battery calibrating, and cleaning out bloatware my only option? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks Droid experts!!!
Don't use advanced task killer first of all. It will probably reduce battery life. GB update has made the battery better in all situations.
Whether or not to root is really up to you however if you do decide to root it is actually quite easy to root EP4D(the latest OTA update). Here is an easy to follow write up that I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434738
Personally I rooted my phone and I have loved it. When I was using stock rom debloating did help some with my battery life. The biggest difference I found however when when I flashed eclipse and imnuts pbj EP4D kernel on to my phone. Eclipse is an awesome rom that is already debloated and has been tweaked to run super smooth. Imnuts pbj kernel has lots of great performance and power saving features(for example the ability to undervolt). Running stock I would get about 8 hours of moderate use from my standard battery(1600mah) and 4 hours of heavy use. Running Eclipse with imnuts kernel I get 18-20 hours moderate use and 8-10 hours heavy use.
cadillacactor said:
Hello All,
I've got a Droid X with the handy and convenient one-click root method Z4root. However, my wife's Droid Charge is an entirely different story. So far I haven't rooted it because I'm hoping to use that as a last resort (I don't want to brick her phone).
She was having some trouble with battery life, so she bought a Samsung extended life battery. Instead of her phone dying within 4 hours of a full charge it could make it pretty much all day. But this week all of a sudden, even with that, she's back down to 6 hours, if that.
Early on when she got the phone I downloaded Advanced Task Killer for her and gave her some basic tips (low brightness, no mobile data, etc.), but I'm at a loss. I'm not sure if it's the GB update or what. I'm almost ready to root her phone and roll it back to Froyo because I think that's part of the problem, but I'm at a loss. Do you guys have any suggestions? Or is rooting, battery calibrating, and cleaning out bloatware my only option? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks Droid experts!!!
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calibrating the battery would probably help. id check to see whats running; gps, wifi, bt, etc. also it could be a rogue app that is sucking up all the juice. juice defender could help and if u have no use for location apps u can go into setting/location and turn off stand alone gps, google location, and vzw location. but def root the phone and put a custom kernel and rom on the phone, there will be a big difference.
I find that Facebook often runs rampant and needs to be told to stfu constantly. Also, a custom kernel with aggressive undervolting will help too.
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I find that Facebook often runs rampant and needs to be told to stfu constantly. Also, a custom kernel with aggressive undervolting will help too.
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I agree, and you'd think with all that money they're worth and throwing around that they could make an app that doesn't GARGLE TESTICLES
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anoninja118 said:
I agree, and you'd think with all that money they're worth and throwing around that they could make an app that doesn't GARGLE TESTICLES
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Seriously. The IOS version has ZERO issues.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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I'm right there with you man. The only thing I was really missing was an adblocker but I found adguard and its been working great. Only irritating thing about that is the stupid VPN icon stays in the notification. So far this phone is crazy fast doing anything and GREAT battery life.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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Totally agree. I'm also using package disabler and it has given me amazing battery life and disabled the crap I normally remove when I'm rooted. With the theme engine on the phone, and the amazing performance I don't feel the need to root.
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I came from Sony, so I'm used to not being rooted for long periods of time :laugh:
You're wrong sir. Adblocker, supersu premium, and free pandora one on one page of my app screen.
Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
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Root is a must for me. I have adaway, Pandora which can be obtained without root, xposed apps, titanium backup, ability to remove crap from my phone.
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Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
Undertaker is right about pandora one, but Cachemate is one of my faves. And you gotta have roots.
Bluetooth tethering is a must for me.
I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and I think this has been the longest time I've kept a new phone non-rooted. One of the main advantages of rooting in the past was debloating, but I've been using the package disabler app and it has given me the ability to debloating and disable over 150 apps, and the battery life so far has been great! (Coming from N4). I know is a little early for a stable release of a stable custom rom but one of the main reasons for my Oscar the ability to use Samsung Pay. So far, the phone feels super fast, de bloated and a very strong battery life (around 5 to 6 hours of SOT). I don't think I will be rooting any time soon. Let's see down the road....
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What apps you have diabled?
Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
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Titanium Backup is good, but Helium served all my needs when I moved from my Z3 to the Note 5, without having to root. I disabled apps on my phone and hid the ones I couldn't disable, without root.
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Disabling is just hide the app from your drawer. Nothing special you have apps that are using your space
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
I also use to root and install custom roms because I wanted to increase performance and battery life to my device but with this phone is don't feel the need to. After disabling a few apps I've noticed memory consumption has gone down and as far as battery life. I use to get good battery life before so I'm expecting this to give me better battery life as well. I've also blocked all the ads and I'm very happy.
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Have you looked at the size of the things you disable? Most of them are tiny.
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rooting a must for me either way. If i can't delete whatsapp and install whatsapp plus then that's a problem.
If i don't want certain apps i should have ability to delete them not just disable them
the size may be small but it is still space on my device
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I agree with you guys.
I tried to root 4 times, it was either shooting down or wifi not working good.
I will wait until the root issue is resolved.
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Take it to a shop if you're having trouble. I can steer you in the right direction.
Or I'll hold your hand while you do it.
Only trouble I had on 1st try is that the team win recovery got overwritten by the phone once I had the custom kernel and before I had supersu. So I just reflashed the team win recovery and flashed supersu.
WiFi never better. We've done 100 so far.
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Id not have access to my beloved Lucky Patcher though. I love installing modded apks over the play store ones and back again without having to uninstall lol
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I'm with you on that! Had Lucky on my previous OnePlus One and it was great.
Hopefully soon we can have it on the Note 5.
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I've been using this phone for a week now, and....
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Thanks for package disabler. I usually root as well. One thing that did jump out at me was, after I disabled all the things I normally freeze, my ram usage was the same. But I guess the main benefit is that the unused apps won't fire up and consume battery unnecessarily.
You should get a kick back from package disabler!
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This didn't need to be turned into a root vs unroot thread.
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