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I'm in the market for my first Android tablet - and the Asus EEE seems to fit the bill via price / performance. I had a chance to test drive the ACER A500 at local Electronics store - and it's pretty nice with similar price point / and specs to the ASUS.
The ASUS Transformer has it's own XDA forum - with activity < I'm assuming that means there will be a Developer support for Custom ROMs in the future >
I would think the ACER would have a similar following - but I'm not seeing it on this site. I've seen a couple thread topics I can find via google search - but there's no Acer A500 forum - that suggests community interest?
What am I missing here. Besides the $50.00 price difference - why is Asus getting all the buzz - while the similar Acer device seems to garner little interest?
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Acer has bad rep when it comes to laptops already so that may have something to do with it... especially among IT people (trust me, I know).
If you can't make well laptops which is an established product among electronics, how can you be expected to make tablet any better, a fairly new product in electronics?
IPS screen on asus is another one.
Dock is another one
IPS screen and the keyboard dock with a battery which can give 16+ hours of life are the key differentiators for the transformer.
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also the extra free software included that's actually stuff people want. Splashtop remote Polaris office and one free year of online storage.
I've been following both products closely and I agree with the OP's confusion. I personally don't regard Acer as any less competent a technology company that Asus. IPS screen, Keyboard dock & $50 are the big benefits for Asus; however, Acer has a the full USB port and a flash on the rear camera.
Regardless, I am testing the Acer right now from BB for a few days and my Asus comes in next week, so I'll compare the screen between the two and let you know what I find. FWIW, I use a NC which has a 7" IPS screen and the Acer screen might not compare but it's certainly not too shabby on its own merit.
Edit: Acer also has a hardware rotation lock switch, something I believe neither the Xoom or Asus has. Coming from a brief stint with the iPad, I would normally welcome this feature - however, it just doesn't work too well on HC. Market auto-forces landscape, my comic reader auto-forces whatever I set through settings - all of this just confuses HC and the hardware lock, causing it to act wonky at times.
nook-color said:
I'm in the market for my first Android tablet - and the Asus EEE seems to fit the bill via price / performance. I had a chance to test drive the ACER A500 at local Electronics store - and it's pretty nice with similar price point / and specs to the ASUS.
The ASUS Transformer has it's own XDA forum - with activity < I'm assuming that means there will be a Developer support for Custom ROMs in the future >
I would think the ACER would have a similar following - but I'm not seeing it on this site. I've seen a couple thread topics I can find via google search - but there's no Acer A500 forum - that suggests community interest?
What am I missing here. Besides the $50.00 price difference - why is Asus getting all the buzz - while the similar Acer device seems to garner little interest?
Thanks
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Asus has blown up the hype for the Transformer by doing 3 things...
1. hitting everyone over the head that it has an ips screen with gorilla glass®
2. enticing us with the 2for1 thing (tablet to netbook, voila!)
3. selling it at a killer price
4. ADVERTISING..
..and they've been doing this for months. Acer on the other hand, hasn't really buzzed up the Iconia Tab A500. I heard about it ONCE before release. They haven't advertised it and it's really no big deal on their website. It's just another device for them. Seems more like an afterthought and anecdotal "we have one too" tablet, than something they're proud or truly excited to sell.
Asus however, has been advertising the Transformer for months, releasing ads for it, putting up a Facebook page for it and talking about it. Suffice it to say, their hyping is now paying off.
There's interest for the Acer, it's just a whisper vs. the shout for the Transformer. But the proof is always in the pudding so personally I'm trying to patiently wait and see which one is better for me. Currently I own the Iconia Tab and I really like it, though I am quite interested to feel out the Transformer and see how much nicer the screen is and if it would be worth giving up my led flash, usb host port, reset button and sturdy build for.
I picked the Asus because I have the impression that Asus is going to do a better job of supporting the tablet with updates. So far, that appears to be true, especially if some of the developers just responded in the bricked tablet thread. I was sorely tempted by the Acer because of the USB port, I don't particularly care to get the keyboard for the Asus; it's just a tablet for me, I already have a laptop.
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Asus has blown up the hype for the Transformer by doing 3 things...
1. hitting everyone over the head that it has an ips screen with gorilla glass®
2. enticing us with the 2for1 thing (tablet to netbook, voila!)
3. selling it at a killer price
4. ADVERTISING..
..and they've been doing this for months. Acer on the other hand, hasn't really buzzed up the Iconia Tab A500. I heard about it ONCE before release. They haven't advertised it and it's really no big deal on their website. It's just another device for them. Seems more like an afterthought and anecdotal "we have one too" tablet, than something they're proud or truly excited to sell.
Asus however, has been advertising the Transformer for months, releasing ads for it, putting up a Facebook page for it and talking about it. Suffice it to say, their hyping is now paying off.
There's interest for the Acer, it's just a whisper vs. the shout for the Transformer. But the proof is always in the pudding so personally I'm trying to patiently wait and see which one is better for me. Currently I own the Iconia Tab and I really like it, though I am quite interested to feel out the Transformer and see how much nicer the screen is and if it would be worth giving up my led flash, usb host port, reset button and sturdy build for.
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All Asus has done is hang around on facebook, they literally haven't done any advertising besides facebook and 1 internet only commercial.
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All Asus has done is hang around on facebook, they literally haven't done any advertising besides facebook and 1 internet only commercial.
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What has Acer done?
Hanging around Facebook for one, is in and of itself pretty potent advertising. And any commercial is still a commercial, no matter how silly it is.
For me, and I think for many people, what really sets the Transformer apart is what gives it the name: the ability to use as a tablet or as a notebook. It's just different/more than a tablet + Bluetooth keyboard, because it's integrated and because the dock has a second battery.
The $399 starting price doesn't hurt, either. And $399 sounds better than $449 no matter how you slice it.
IPS screen and the low price. That's why I targeted it versus the ACER.
I love ACER - my son has an ACER netbook and both my LCD's are ACER. But IPS was what I wanted in my next tablet, so ASUS won.
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IPS screen and the low price. That's why I targeted it versus the ACER.
I love ACER - my son has an ACER netbook and both my LCD's are ACER. But IPS was what I wanted in my next tablet, so ASUS won.
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And boy is this IPS screen worth it.
Do you guys think its really worth the wait. I missed my chance to order because of work. I really need a tablet by next week.
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Do you guys think its really worth the wait. I missed my chance to order because of work. I really need a tablet by next week.
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Summarize what people are saying and make your choice.
It's obviously worth the wait if you need an IPS display or the transformer dock because nothing else right now can give you that. If these aren't THAT important and you need a tablet next week, you might as well go at least take a look at the Acer.
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Do you guys think its really worth the wait. I missed my chance to order because of work. I really need a tablet by next week.
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I could really use one too.
I just wish I " knew " how long I had to wait for the Asus EEE to be available. It appears it's a 2 week wait - but that's just a best guestimate from what I've been reading online.
But is the consensus - that this device will have good support on this forum - vs - comparable spec tablets. And it's worth the wait? I'm going to be using the .pdf reader function pretty heavily.
It looks like i might have to get the acer to get me buy until i can get a transformer, as long as it's within 14days. I really like the specs on the transformer, IPS + Gorilla glass + Dock + $399. I also like the community the transformer has behind it.
Keep an eye out. It is regularly showing up in Fry's. It'll be showing up more and more regularly. I was lucky, had good timing on checking for in store availability at Fry's, and purchased the only one received that morning right after it was received. Picked it up 10 minutes later.
They are sporadically hitting the B&M Frye's around the country.
The gTablet folks have been good and efforts appreciated
Were it especially not for Roebeet, most of us would have given up on this device. Sadly, the butt ole' efforts of VS to lock things down has put me off of the tablet (well that and the display).
I bought the Acer A500 and am completely happy. It has the great connectivity of the gTablet, but it all actually works fine, out of box The gTablet with TnT 4 will be my back-up.
Viewsonic sux, but folks here rock. IMO, Viewsonic patronized the community here and leveraged the goodwill of Roebeet and others to keep the device from being a complete disaster at launch (and gave them nothing in return). The communities reward is a device that is more complex to root and the OEM firmware STILL sux.
I will never buy another Viewsonic product.
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I will never buy another Viewsonic product.
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Agreed completely.
You give up too quick!
All good things come to those that wait.
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You give up too quick!
All good things come to those that wait.
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Good things come but why should we have to wait? And depend on someone other than the manufacturer? I do love my tablet but Viewsonic is not a company I will be doing business with again.
Will be purchasing the Acer Iconia A500 tomorrow as well. Hopefully we can get Roebeet and some of the other devs on board, although he decided to go with the Transformer. (They really have been great. The devs that is.) Honestly, I'm looking at the Acer as the next GTablet. I say that because its not getting much air time because of the Transformer, but once the dev community gets behind it, I feel as if things are going to take off and people will realize that this tablet is the one to have. I also believe that the lack of a usb port on the Transformer tablet itself will be more of a headache than most realize(just gotta wait for the excitement to calm down). You're not going to want to carry that dock around all the time. I mean you wanted a tablet, not a laptop. I loved my GTablet, but its time to move on to Honeycomb. I can't wait around just for Viewsonic to tell us they won't be bringing HC to our tablets.
been running the xoom wifi since release, it is only now getting fun to play with changing kernels out etc. The g tab will always have a special place in my heart. Btw briliant corners rom absolutely fly on the g tablet. 1080 video acceleration at last
Surprised Roebeet went with the Asus, considering the Acer's connectivity is more in line with a tablet. The Asus (though a fine device) is more like a netbook in regards to getting the same connectivity as the A500.
Not to mention connectivity via the keyboard has been problematic so far (connection issues and media not working correctly). I prefer having the connectivity on the tablet, but to each their own
Also nice saving a net of $100, since no need for the KB. I have my M11X for portable computing.
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Surprised Roebeet went with the Asus, considering the Acer's connectivity is more in line with a tablet. The Asus (though a fine device) is more like a netbook in regards to getting the same connectivity as the A500.
Not to mention connectivity via the keyboard has been problematic so far (connection issues and media not working correctly). I prefer having the connectivity on the tablet, but to each their own
Also nice saving a net of $100, since no need for the KB. I have my M11X for portable computing.
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We are on par gadget wise... I love the m11x as my laptop.. the Gtab was fun but VS blew it and now that i have the A500 the g will see considerably less use
now where's that Iconia A500 section???
I was going to get a asus but the grand opening day was a let down. Thought well acer icona500 but when I got to bestbuy and compared the ipad2 to it and then got $65.00 off on a return open box my knees got weak and went to the dark side.
The gtab has only been around how long? Me personally, yeah I would've taken something else, but for the price at the time this is still an amazing deal. Yeah you gotta have some techy knowledge but that's why we're here right?
As for upgrading, I'll wait for the holidays and the Tegra 3. Seems pointless to upgrade tabs now since the hardware is practically the same...oh better screen and 512mb more in ram, no thanx. Wait for Tegra 3 and speeds of 3-5 times faster than any tab out there. Until then my gtab is a great toy
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. . . knees got weak and went to the dark side.
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You are funny ! Thanks for a good laugh !
I am about to buy a Transformer Infinity. I know why I WANT to buy it, but I thought I'll Ask some owners for reasons for why I would NOT want to buy it
I am a crazy customizer and a power user always trying to push the limits.
I currently own a Optimus Black, a phone no one (even LG) cares about...
How popular is the TF700? Will I get support? Roms? What about ASUS Custoomer service?
Thx in Advance
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I am about to buy a Transformer Infinity. I know why I WANT to buy it, but I thought I'll Ask some owners for reasons for why I would NOT want to buy it
I am a crazy customizer and a power user always trying to push the limits.
I currently own a Optimus Black, a phone no one (even LG) cares about...
How popular is the TF700? Will I get support? Roms? What about ASUS Custoomer service?
Thx in Advance
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The Infinity is still relatively new, but there is already quite a bit of development going on with it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1665
As far as official support, such as bug fixes or updates, Asus generally seems to be better and at least faster to get updates out than other manufacturers.
Customer support, however, is a different matter. I haven't dealt with Asus support directly, but there are ample reports about it's horrible quality. For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830473&highlight=asus+support
Likewise, Asus' quality control is pretty lax. There are a lot of tablets with issues that never should have passed standard QA checks.
Another related note: they also seem to be selling rebranded TF201 docks as "new" TF700 docks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810592&highlight=tf700+dock
All things considered though, I'm happy with the Infinity overall. I will accompany that with the caveat that I am in fact getting a replacement for my Infinity and dock from Amazon due to some dust under my screen in a very annoying location (right in the center) and because some keys on the dock started registering incorrectly.
Its a good tablet, but its not without its flaws. I'd still pick one up, as Asus is very good about software updates and our dev community is starting to ramp up so we'll get our custom roms.
Some issues that people have had:
-Quality control is very hit or miss
-You're going to have light bleed. Most tablets have it light enough that its only noticeable while booting though, once in Android it goes away.
-Internal flash storage is relatively slow, causing some occasional performance hiccups. If the Prime is any indication, custom roms will easily work around the issue.
-Asus's tech support staff are complete crap that'll insist on RMAing your device even for the most trivial issues.
-Some devices wont receive updates or unlock their bootloader, although in most cases both start working after a few weeks.
Just make sure you get one that's physically well built, and you should like it.
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
I'd wait a while
My advice...
If possible wait before buying.
Don't jump in like I did.
I did get a later non buggy Infinity that has no build problems.
The performance of the tablet is what I would say is stellar compared to most of the previous incarnations.
Yet there is competition on the horizon that just might blow the Infinity out of the water.
I ran out and bought the Acer A700 because it was the latest thing and ended up severely disappointed.
So then I jumped over to the Infinity and have been pleased.
If you are a true blue power user\tinkerer the Asus may be good, yet you may be much happier with a later model
10 inch tab that ships with android 4.1 jellybean.
I'll bet the hardware in the upcoming tabs will give the 'ole iPad a real run for the finish line.
As far as the this or that choice...to me it boils down to an OS preference.
I wouldn't make sense for anyone on here to recommend apple over droid.
Probably best to not even bring it up...
I have a Asus Prime currently in limbo between Asus and FEDEX for about a month now trying to get it replaced. Long story short. Prime broke (poor quality), sent it to texas service center. 1/2 week later got it back. Service center screwed up the packing, FEDEX destroyed my tablet on delivery. Submitted and claim, 30 days later still waiting. Got tired of waiting, bought the infinity.
Asus seems to have learned their lessons from the Prime, so for me the Infinity works like what I expected the prime to be. Flawless.
If you're into customization and tinkering then this is the tablet for you. The only negative I have to say is Asus as a company they are very schizophrenic. They seem to have good customer support, their response time is good, they are polite and they want to do right by the customer but the end result is unsatisfactory. The Prime should have been recalled, but instead they released band aids to problems that only made things worst. But they tried to do good for the customer. Which is why I ended up buying another Asus product. I just hope I don't come to regret my decision later on.
There's not that many options right now anyways, if you want the most powerful tablet released you either get the ipad 3 or the infinity. My vote is on the infinity, just make sure you get insurance.
Thank you very much for your help guys just a few more things...
I will be using this a lot for school work. Is it sensitive enough for handwriting? Can I use a fine tipped stylus like the HandStylus (http://handstylus.com/) ?
Also is there a considerable drop in Performance in the 3G version compared to the Wifi version?
Thank you very much
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Thank you very much for your help guys just a few more things...
I will be using this a lot for school work. Is it sensitive enough for handwriting? Can I use a fine tipped stylus like the HandStylus (http://handstylus.com/) ?
Also is there a considerable drop in Performance in the 3G version compared to the Wifi version?
Thank you very much
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Yes its very sensitive. The digitizer on the Infinity is really good. Regarding the HandStylus, I don't see why it shouldn't work. It looks like a normal capacitive stylus with just a smaller tip. As far as the 3g version I don't believe its out on the market yet.
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I will be using this a lot for school work.
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I use my Infinity for quite a bit of work. One thing I found is that I use the device docked with the keyboard more than I do as an actual tablet. When sitting at a table or even on the couch I'm able to bang out e-mail, XLS files or word docs with little or no effort. Even when not using the keyboard, just having it there gives a very stable stand to hold the device in a comfortable position. I'm not even considering a sleeve anymore to protect the device, since just folding the keyboard up will protect the screen. Honestly, I didn't think I would use it this way... figured they dock was going to be a novelty accessory. It has truly transformed (pun intended) this thing into something that is really productive. Not sure what kind of school work you will be using your tablet for, but this is something you might want to consider.
I own one and I think it's great.. I honestly can't think of a reason why you shouldn't get it.. In addition, there are plenty of stable OS that you can put on the tablet once you root it; plus, you have more options you can enact on the tablet, which wouldn't be possible on the iPad.
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I use my Infinity for quite a bit of work. One thing I found is that I use the device docked with the keyboard more than I do as an actual tablet. When sitting at a table or even on the couch I'm able to bang out e-mail, XLS files or word docs with little or no effort. Even when not using the keyboard, just having it there gives a very stable stand to hold the device in a comfortable position. I'm not even considering a sleeve anymore to protect the device, since just folding the keyboard up will protect the screen. Honestly, I didn't think I would use it this way... figured they dock was going to be a novelty accessory. It has truly transformed (pun intended) this thing into something that is really productive. Not sure what kind of school work you will be using your tablet for, but this is something you might want to consider.
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I second Garys opinion. My transformer has become my sole computing device at home, with my desktop being used as a file storage.
The keyboard dock is essential for school.
FWIW, I finally bought a gray Infinity after being without my OG Transformer since last AUG and tiring of the wait for a champagne unit. (Tried a Prime for about 36 hours -- it was such a POS that I returned it for a refund.) The gray Infinity has been in production long enough to work out assembly issues, if Asus plans to correct them at all.
I bought from Amazon, which has excellent customer service and return policies. I should receive the unit today. If there are build issues, I'll exchange no more than twice (which, not coincidentally, is the limit of Amazon's exchange policy). If I can't find a good unit among three, I'll just return it and wait for the Samsung P10 or a Surface tab.
Heck, if the P10 is as killer as specs suggest, I'll probably eBay the Infinity anyway. But I've done without a tablet for so long -- and the keyboard dock for my Droid Bionic is a poor substitute -- that I gotta try something.
Pankaja13 said:
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
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If you want to be conformed to a cookie cutter device, and have a dictatorial company tell you what you want, need, and desire
While controlling you with an iron fist, by all means, get iPad 3.
If you are your own unique person who can decide what you want on your own, I strongly suggest a lil green robot.
Pankaja13 said:
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
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I first tried the tf300 because it has the jb update but went to the infinity for its display. Once it gets jb you won't see lag any longer with it. I also tried the new ipad but returned it quickly, ios just too boring for me.
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If you want to be conformed to a cookie cutter device, and have a dictatorial company tell you what you want, need, and desire
While controlling you with an iron fist, by all means, get iPad 3.
If you are your own unique person who can decide what you want on your own, I strongly suggest a lil green robot.
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Couldn't have said it better myself :highfive:
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I first tried the tf300 because it has the jb update but went to the infinity for its display. Once it gets jb you won't see lag any longer with it. I also tried the new ipad but returned it quickly, ios just too boring for me.
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Same. You can change the wallpaper and that's it.
Big thanks to everyone who helped, but you can only press the "Thanks" button once
I've had some trouble trying to find it in South Asia... guess I'll have to wait a bit longer
Hi guys i worked really hard this summer to save up for this tablet and dock. it was sweet the first week and i made sure to factory reset and just install good known apps. 3 weeks later the device is still... pretty snappy i guess. it laggs opening the app drawer with only 2 pages of apps lol. getting back to the homescreen sometimes is a pain . and i dont understand why there is not a lot of people with the device ! the nexus 7 has every dev and his grandmother making things for it. its getting really hard to justify the money i spent for it
so my question is. would you sell your tablet and dock ( lets say my dad wants to buy it off me for 600$) and you get a nexus 7 and enjoy the custom roms, gaming and community behind it ? with lots to spare? i dont use the camera on the tf700, i mostly use cloud storage so idk if i need the micro and full size sd card i bought lol. hm at the same time i dont want to regret it later. oh well ! opinions ?
If the Nexus were 10", I'd consider it. As is, absolutely not. I've tried a 7" tablet before, and they're just too small to do anything productive on them. They're great pocket web browsers, but at that point I feel like I could just whip out my phone and as such dont see much of a point.
Roms WILL come for the Infinity. Its still a rather new device, the Nexus has the advantage of full source being available for it from day 1. Most non-nexus devices have only kernel source available, so it takes a while for devs to figure things out. Once one AOSP ROM drops, development should pick up really fast.
I'd never consider having a 7" tablet instead of a 10" tablet or the Infinity specifically, especially with the dock. This is more of a netbook (but not laptop) vs Infinity thing for me.
I'll definitely consider getting a 7" tablet as an addition to it, however, for note-taking on the go and such, but when there's a solid 7" tablet with SD card slot, 3G, good (and fast-charging) battery with reasonable CPU/GPU/SoC and JB out... pretty demanding, so I'm still waiting, 3G seems to be the biggest problem in these.
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I'd never consider having a 7" tablet instead of a 10" tablet or the Infinity specifically, especially with the dock. This is more of a netbook (but not laptop) vs Infinity thing for me.
I'll definitely consider getting a 7" tablet as an addition to it, however, for note-taking on the go and such, but when there's a solid 7" tablet with SD card slot, 3G, good (and fast-charging) battery with reasonable CPU/GPU/SoC and JB out... pretty demanding, so I'm still waiting, 3G seems to be the biggest problem in these.
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+1 for a 10" over a 7". I have to say I have a sorry long history with the various tablets, going back to the very first Android Tabs. I have had the full range of Asus devices, spent months testing the Xoom and the Galaxy 10.1 for VZW, the ViewSonic gTablet, all the way back to the Augen Gentouch and the Velocity Cruz. For me, 7" is a great e-reader and that is about it. I am very hard-pressed to come up with anything that it is useful for besides reading a book that I can't do faster and easier with either my phone or my tablet depending on the need.
I just don't see the value in it. Borrow a 7" and try to take notes, it really doesn't work nearly as well as you would hope. Then do it on a 10" and see the difference.
Good luck!
this is a subjective question to be answered by ones own needs
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No SD slot on Nexus, thats why I got a tf700 in the first place.
I was really tempted initially when I found out how few apps there are supported. But measured side by side its main competitor in my mind the ipad 3, the infinity just has so much more functionality I'm willing to wait for the app support. :victory:
I waited forever to get the Infinity so I definitely have patience for more development.
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Heck ya baby...
Bucks talk hardware walks!
I'd say no. If you REALLY want a device with lots of devs behind it and ability to customize it, go for something like the samsung galaxy tab 10 (or the tab 2.0 but thats reather expensive)
The reason i say the tab 10 is because:
10" tablet
Sources are available
Odin is provided BY SAMSUNG to make CUSTOM ROMS, how much easier can they make it?
LOTS of cooks making custom versions of android
Its been out for ages meaning there is a developed community behind it
In my area anyways they were given away like fruitcake, Buy a cell phone get a tab, buy a PVR get a tab, buy a car get a tab, go to school get a tab, etc. so the market is saturated
Tab 2.0 drives down the price of the tab 10, you can get them used for like, $200 in my area
Dual core, powerful enough to run pretty much anything on the market. VERY few apps take advantage of quad core
If you want to get a solid 10" tablet and not pay big money this is the one i would go with. Its not top of the line, its not as flashy, it doesnt have as many features as the prime but it IS a solid tablet that will do what you want with the customization you want while leaving LOTS of extra money in your pocket.
If there would have been any valid rumours about Nexus 10" tablets I wouldn't have even considered getting another tablet. Same goes for phones now. My SGS3 will be the last branded phone. I want to go to Google all the way. Just so tired of companies putting their "own value" to the product and making updates slow and actually most of the extra is just annoying. Thank god Asus didn't make that much changes, only some useless apps which can't get rid off without rooting. But still updates are slower than with Google's Nexus. And Asus is the best of the rest.
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If there would have been any valid rumours about Nexus 10" tablets I wouldn't have even considered getting another tablet. Same goes for phones now. My SGS3 will be the last branded phone. I want to go to Google all the way. Just so tired of companies putting their "own value" to the product and making updates slow and actually most of the extra is just annoying. Thank god Asus didn't make that much changes, only some useless apps which can't get rid off without rooting. But still updates are slower than with Google's Nexus. And Asus is the best of the rest.
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Samsung is bad for updates, i agree, however because we get all the sources it is pretty quick before you get AOSP versions that are up to date with google, at least thats the way it is with my S2.
hey boy i know you spend a good amount of money to get the infinity but your comparing it to the nexus 7 which is a 7" device with almost no features with cheapness ooozing all over it . It's like buying a bmw and you want to trade it for a honda civic!!!!! .
Sure it will have more developer because it came out first plus its a google nexus reference design what do you expect. Wait another month and you'll see that there will be a lot of developer for this device.
Why so many useless thread concerning this type of question eg: should i trade my infinity? , what color do you like? , should i get the 32gb? Why not get yourself a brain so you can make a decision.
Guys now is my time! i have to buy my first tablet ever! i have saved money and i cant upgrade sooner cause i am a student so pls help me sincerely...
i have about $650 (US dollars). i want the best tablet.
i love the flash in android devices for internet, but for the resolution i had in my mind to buy the new ipad but then Jelly bean came and it also does not have flash so i changed the idea of getting the new ipad. because both ios and android now dont have flash, i love android. but i thought to just check ipad cause i have never bought and apple product cause i simple hate apple.
my uses r:
1- using internet. i use a lot of internet on my mobile so i need tablet now.
2- watching movies and videos
3- using camera on mobile but a decent tablet camera would be nice
4-listening music
5- transferring big files
well here are my choices. guys dont be one sided for ur 700 cause no device is perfect! just give me the idea of which to choose between these depending on ur experiences cause many of u guys here would have definitely used more than one tablet.
1- Samsung galaxy note 10.1
2- ipad 3
3- asus transformer pad infinity tf-700
4- asus transformer pad tf-300
5- acer iconia tab A700
guys i expect a good answer from u guys.
thanks
1- Samsung galaxy note 10.1
Fastest tablet on market, completely plastic case (I hate that), lower res screen than Infinity, S-Pen if you like to draw/take hand written notes.
2- ipad 3
iOS, Apple, iTunes.. meh
3- asus transformer pad infinity tf-700
HD screen is amazing, fast tablet but not as fast as Note 10.1. Has a Keyboard dock with extra battery, I type faster than I write so I prefer keyboard over S-Pen. Asus does have some QC issues so test out everything and make sure you're happy within the store return policy window.
4- asus transformer pad tf-300
If HD screen isn't important to you this is a good budget option.
5- acer iconia tab A700
Over-heats, sluggish, HD screen but I wouldn't go for it.
I suggest you go in to a store and play with each one and decide for yourself which you prefer. iPad, T700, Note 10.1 are all good tabs and suit different people's needs. Sony just released their Xperia S tablet with a 9.7" (I think) screen which might also be worth a look at. Or if you believe all the rumours you could wait and see if Samsung release their P10 with HD screen and perhaps Google will release a 10" tab too before Christmas. Oh and then the Windows tabs will be out so you'll have more choice
Tablet shopping is such fun!
Personally, I'd try to hold off on making your decision until Jelly Bean is available for the TF700. If Jelly Bean runs as well as we are all expecting on the TF700, it would be much easier to recommend it over the others.
Right now, with all of the QC issues that Asus has, I have a hard time recommending the TF700 to anyone. I really do like the device (or I would have sold it and bought something else), but some folks have had to return the damn thing 7 or 8 times before getting one without physical defects. I just don't feel comfortable recommending a device with so many defects out-of-the-box. Combine that with the Asus ICS implementation and it's just plain hard to recommend to someone that just wants a working device. I don't mind dealing with the software issues (I actually enjoy "tinkering"), but some users just don't want to be bothered with that stuff and want the thing to work without "tinkering".
Now, if Jelly Bean is implemented properly on the TF700, that I might change my mind on recommending it. While the physical defect rate would still be the same, I just think that it would be more "worth it" to deal with the QC issues if Jelly Bean runs well...
Just my opinion. I really can't comment on the other devices in your list since I don't own them...
My best recommendation would be to go to a retail store (if possible) and just try them out for yourself...
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The two replies given cover the base, so I am not inclined to add my measly $0.02 to them.
However, I would like to make a point of requesting a more to-the-point topic title next time, for your own good. Not many people are inclined to go read up on a question with such a generic title -- meaning you will get less replies and hurt your own chances of achieving whatever it is you want to achieve. And XDA is not exactly unique in requesting explicit topic titles, either...
Process of elimination is probably what you have to use as "no tablet is completely superior to other i.e. NO best tablet" in my opinion.
The last two can be eliminated. Acer's tablet has full HD screen but have not received great review and pretty much most reviews puts TF700 over the Acer. TF300 is great budget tablet but if you can afford TF700 is better as it is higher end model.
The other three are tough and really depends on the preference.
1. New IPad ( I have iPad 2 so I am sort of basing on this)
Basically all round player with high resolution display, stability, speed. But it is completely different ecosystem than android. So you have to first decide iOS vs. Android.
2. Galaxy Note 10.1 (I owned it for 3 weeks)
Fastest, most stable android tablet out there. S-pen is closest to the paper the tablet can get. But lacks full HD, which I found out really important for me.
3. TF700
Full HD. When its functioning as fast as Galaxy Note. But slightly more frequent random browser crash. (which by the way I get it with Note and Ipad 2 as well, just a less frequent). But overall I chose TF700 as difference in stability and speed were not as significant as full HD (personally).
As someone else suggested, if you can wait until jellybean on TF700, it is probably the safest to wait until then as if it makes TF700 faster and more stable (particularly browsing), I can say it is hands down the best tablet at that point.
Ok I'll answer because you have so adamantly begged for a reply.
I had an Acer A700 don't go there you can cook dinner on that thing.
We have an iPad 3 it's wonderful device, it's not for those who love to tinker and adjust.
The Asus TF700T is my personal favorite because I'm big fan of the Android OS.
*just a note,
XDA is an Android board so you may not get too many recommendations for an iDevice here.
So there you go...
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Well if you can handle iOs and itunes then I would say go to ipad. It is very good and quick.
Just not for me. I also have ipad but bought infinity. I just hate the software too much to use it. But hardware wise it is a well made nice device.
Quality Control issues are a constant for EVERY MANUFACTURER. With some having more and other manufacturers having less. I've owned Sony and Panasonic products that had horrible QC issues. Yet their products were still highly touted and rated the best in their respective markets, for that particular product. People come to product forums, more times than not, to vent their frustration about a product. Rarely do you see people come to tell you how amazing their device is...
For every negative review, on average, theirs 11 people ecstatic with their Infinity. If you go to Amazon 's review Site for the Infinity - over 250 people reviewed their device 4 stars or higher. With 50 people reviewing it 3 stars or less.
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The Asus Infinity tablet is the flagship device all other manufacturers will try to emulate. I'm very happy with mine. Best electronic purchase in 4 years. And we're still waiting for Jelly Bean!
I would say that even putting the iDevice on the list means a person actually wants one.
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1- Samsung galaxy note 10.1
Fastest tablet on market, completely plastic case (I hate that), lower res screen than Infinity, S-Pen if you like to draw/take hand written notes.
2- ipad 3
iOS, Apple, iTunes.. meh
3- asus transformer pad infinity tf-700
HD screen is amazing, fast tablet but not as fast as Note 10.1. Has a Keyboard dock with extra battery, I type faster than I write so I prefer keyboard over S-Pen. Asus does have some QC issues so test out everything and make sure you're happy within the store return policy window.
4- asus transformer pad tf-300
If HD screen isn't important to you this is a good budget option.
5- acer iconia tab A700
Over-heats, sluggish, HD screen but I wouldn't go for it.
I suggest you go in to a store and play with each one and decide for yourself which you prefer. iPad, T700, Note 10.1 are all good tabs and suit different people's needs. Sony just released their Xperia S tablet with a 9.7" (I think) screen which might also be worth a look at. Or if you believe all the rumours you could wait and see if Samsung release their P10 with HD screen and perhaps Google will release a 10" tab too before Christmas. Oh and then the Windows tabs will be out so you'll have more choice
Tablet shopping is such fun!
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dude thank u so much for such detailed reply! but my issue is i dont have such big stores where u can give a go to the device before u make purchase... thats why i asked u people who have actually used the device...
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dude thank u so much for such detailed reply! but my issue is i dont have such big stores where u can give a go to the device before u make purchase... thats why i asked u people who have actually used the device...
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I guess you just have to do what we all have done:
1) do your research. Read published reviews, product reviews on retailers' sites and learn everything you can about the potential products and then;
2) choose one. Try to choose one that you could return or sell more easily if you don't like it, so you won't lose too much money.
No one can know what is best for you, what works best in your environment...You can see that even with the same product, there is a diversity of opinion about how good it is.
You just have to take the plunge and make a choice.
Jelly Bean
The TF700 is supposed to have jelly bean in early October. I got this from Asus support and posted this earlier.
tf700t would definitely be my best bet. it is just better than everything out there. Alot of people on this forum complain about this tablet on very specific issues that are caused by rooting or unlocking. if you have only school uses for it you dont have to do either of them. tf700t takes surprisingly awesome pictures. video playback is beautiful. writing essays is ridiculously amazing with the keyboard. battery life lasts me all day. its a beautiful machine. GET IT!.
Strictly opinion/a suggestion (Not to be taken as the ultimate elitist truth)
Personally, a person that's owned a HP TouchPad, a Transformer Prime, and a current owner of both the Transformer Infinity and iPad (New iPad, 3rd gen.. whatever you want to call it... stupid Apple naming scheme), I would recommend the new iPad. And I mean that wholeheartedly if you're intention is to actually buy a tablet, and not an oversized phone without the phone or portable web browser/e-reader.
Ultimately, I think what's important is support and just look at all the mindless iSheep out there. It's just incredible. Android ICS was touted as the first iteration of Android optimized for tablets... yet the apps are still mainly for phones. The developers are brainwashed by the Apple brand and it is what it is.
You can go for an Android tablet but the "better specs" can only go so far... or if you ask me aren't even frickin enough! I bought the Transformer Prime thinking I was buying the best Android tablet in the market and was so underwhelmed and disappointed. Browsing was sluggish. Touch isn't as responsive as you'd hope most times (which is why Jelly Bean is still promising that the 'buttery smooth' experience...how many more versions until they get it down right instead of just settling?)... and most of the apps available are still optimized for phones not tablets. As an Android owner, I lust for updates hoping the experience feels better/snappier/ less FRIGGIN forced closes! As an iPad/iPod touch owner, I get excited about updates for new features. They've already got the experience down to a T.
With the new iPad you've got a screen that's better than the Transformer Infinity without the damn quality control issues. If you ever have a problem with it, if there's an Apple Store within your vicinity and your product is still under warranty, expect a pleasant turnaround time for troubleshooting and repair. With ASUS, you'll be paying out of pocket to get it shipped to them, and expect at least a 2 week wait.
Dev support makes it pretty much the Windows of the tablet universe. Ironically, it's actually iOS that makes Android look like OSX in that regard but most often with the quality of Linux software. You'll find some of the same apps on Android that's on iOS but they're either just as good or mostly worse or a still phone app that gets blown up on your tablet. So much for that big screen with the full HD res, huh?
Even with jailbreaking and rooting... the iOS jailbreaking community is more active. Cydia's updated everyday. With Android it's an easter egg hunt. God forbid you ask someone in a forum for stuff. You're often subjected to trolling... how about the classic "do a Google search!" It's the same with iOS too but since the community there is larger you're bound to get answers easier.
Does the mlb at-bat stream HD live games on Android? Last time I cared they didn't. I watch HD games live with no blackouts on my iPad thanks to mlb at-bat's better support on iOS and the jailbreak app FakeLocation.
There's also way better resale value with the iPad than any other tablet... check eBay for proof. Those people selling Transformers for $400 $500? Don't be fooled... they're either getting 0 bids or they're selling a whole bundle with the keyboard and crap and losing a lot of money. Apple sheep's got the mob mentality so it's way easier to sell... people even buy broken Apple products for more than you think! (again check ebay for proof... I sold even sold my water damaged Macbook for $400) With another tablet it either sells for way less, or ends up in the trash if it's out of warranty.
I'm just saying all this out of experience. You don't have to go buy an iPad... go for what suits your needs all the way. It's your money and these things are expensive. Good luck with your decision!
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Guys now is my time! i have to buy my first tablet ever! i have saved money and i cant upgrade sooner cause i am a student so pls help me sincerely...
i have about $650 (US dollars). i want the best tablet.
i love the flash in android devices for internet, but for the resolution i had in my mind to buy the new ipad but then Jelly bean came and it also does not have flash so i changed the idea of getting the new ipad. because both ios and android now dont have flash, i love android. but i thought to just check ipad cause i have never bought and apple product cause i simple hate apple.
my uses r:
1- using internet. i use a lot of internet on my mobile so i need tablet now.
2- watching movies and videos
3- using camera on mobile but a decent tablet camera would be nice
4-listening music
5- transferring big files
well here are my choices. guys dont be one sided for ur 700 cause no device is perfect! just give me the idea of which to choose between these depending on ur experiences cause many of u guys here would have definitely used more than one tablet.
1- Samsung galaxy note 10.1
2- ipad 3
3- asus transformer pad infinity tf-700
4- asus transformer pad tf-300
5- acer iconia tab A700
guys i expect a good answer from u guys.
thanks
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I have access to the Samsung note 10.1, the ipad 3 and the Asus infinity 700.
For some reason the Asus is the slowest in the bunch by far. I'm constantly making sure i'm in performance mode and even after that it just runs slow, slow and slow. It is like an old Windows ME machine. You have to let it boot up and then let it sit for a while and let it finish do whatever it needs to do. It gets frustrating when you hit/tap a button multiple times and nothing happens because the delay is so bad. People will just bark out screen resolution but in reality the screen isn't that good at all. The colors are very weak and nothing pops.
The Samsung even though is all plastic is a fantastic tablet. It runs smooth and quick. It is just a great all around tablet.
The ipad has a gorgeous screen. Best screen i've seen on a tablet anywhere. I put all these 3 tablets on a table and ran some videos and different things and by far the ipad has an awesome screen.
I really would LOVE if the Asus tablet was faster. Maybe I'll try to wipe it again and see what happens?
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I have access to the Samsung note 10.1, the ipad 3 and the Asus infinity 700.
For some reason the Asus is the slowest in the bunch by far. I'm constantly making sure i'm in performance mode and even after that it just runs slow, slow and slow. It is like an old Windows ME machine. You have to let it boot up and then let it sit for a while and let it finish do whatever it needs to do. It gets frustrating when you hit/tap a button multiple times and nothing happens because the delay is so bad. People will just bark out screen resolution but in reality the screen isn't that good at all. The colors are very weak and nothing pops.
The Samsung even though is all plastic is a fantastic tablet. It runs smooth and quick. It is just a great all around tablet.
The ipad has a gorgeous screen. Best screen i've seen on a tablet anywhere. I put all these 3 tablets on a table and ran some videos and different things and by far the ipad has an awesome screen.
I really would LOVE if the Asus tablet was faster. Maybe I'll try to wipe it again and see what happens?
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Hmm... Strange. I have iPad 2 and had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks. I agree that infinity is slowest (in particular browsing) but otherwise I didn't notice much difference in speed e.g. loading other applications. And even when things are slower I wouldn't say way slower. When I compared browser page loading time side by side, most pages loaded similar speed if simple; whereas, flash heavy site or some other whatever heady site took almost twice as long but that is 10 seconds vs. 20 seconds.
If you have all three, perhaps it would be nice to have comparison video posted by having three unit or two side by side and perform the exact same task.
*Note: I have turned bloatware off, and browser2ram installed.
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I agree that infinity is slowest (in particular browsing) but otherwise I didn't notice much difference in speed e.g. loading other applications.
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People will have different experiences based on the apps and syncs they have set up; especially those that perform a lot of concurrent background processes. The sequential IO scores on Asus tablets are nothing to write home about but if you don't have a lot going on in the background performance should be adequate. The moment a bunch of stuff is going at the same time reads/writes become random (vs. sequential) and things go south pretty quick. So if you loaded Opentoe’s apps and set up his syncs on your TF700 you’d get his results. So you’re both right.
Personally, I would go for the first Windows RT tablet that is full HD, if Microsoft lets them make one that is.
Otherwise the ipad 3. I sold my replacement one because I grew to despise them for their lawsuits and over pricing. But if you can live with getting raped by the $300 profits then the new ipad is the best for now.
Windows tablets look crazy fast and smooth and functional though. Kind of like Playbook, webOS, and Android swipe gestures with IOS fluidity.
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I have access to the Samsung note 10.1, the ipad 3 and the Asus infinity 700.
For some reason the Asus is the slowest in the bunch by far. I'm constantly making sure i'm in performance mode and even after that it just runs slow, slow and slow. It is like an old Windows ME machine. You have to let it boot up and then let it sit for a while and let it finish do whatever it needs to do. It gets frustrating when you hit/tap a button multiple times and nothing happens because the delay is so bad. People will just bark out screen resolution but in reality the screen isn't that good at all. The colors are very weak and nothing pops.
The Samsung even though is all plastic is a fantastic tablet. It runs smooth and quick. It is just a great all around tablet.
The ipad has a gorgeous screen. Best screen i've seen on a tablet anywhere. I put all these 3 tablets on a table and ran some videos and different things and by far the ipad has an awesome screen.
I really would LOVE if the Asus tablet was faster. Maybe I'll try to wipe it again and see what happens?
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thanks to u and thanks to all for ur real nice suggestions and true to life sincere advises. i really love u all and xda!
but guys u know what, i have Galaxy S3 and its JUST PERFECT! i only have 2 issues,
1- the built material is way flimsy for such a beast
2- i just wish they would have put some better audio recording chip for the video to make the audio recording better in the camera video mode
thats it! no more complaints!
i just love samsung and its products because from screws to high tech processors, every thing in samsung's products is made by themselves which is the reason they have the best products and again, SAMSUNG WINS MY HEART! i am gonna buy Note 10.1
my bad luck i called the store and they said the white version is out of stock...
that will be available next week so i will have to wait till next week... sucks
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