Really annoying when it switches from H+ to 3G and vice versa since it loses connection whenever it does.
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Really annoying when it switches from H+ to 3G and vice versa since it loses connection whenever it does.
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So what do you want to happen instead? I'm not sure why its annoying, it's something that the phone should do since its an indication of what network you're on. Whether your stock or rooted that would happen. I guess you can just open up the ROM you're using and just turn the 3G symbol into the H symbol or turn the H symbol into the 3G symbol. I'm not sure if that's gonna work though but worth a shot.
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So what do you want to happen instead? I'm not sure why its annoying, it's something that the phone should do since its an indication of what network you're on. Whether your stock or rooted that would happen. I guess you can just open up the ROM you're using and just turn the 3G symbol into the H symbol or turn the H symbol into the 3G symbol. I'm not sure if that's gonna work though but worth a shot.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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What (s)he said. Also disconnects and stops videos I'm streaming, forcing me to begin at the beginning. Would prefer to just stick with the more widely available 3G.
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It is annoying to some people because they are in an area where they are picking up two different towers and it is switching between towers, which means dropped calls. This is usually a problem if you are in a marginal area. This is what would be happening to me at home if I didn't have my microcell. The ideal fix for this, without the microcell, would be to be able to lock on to the the tower that is providing the 3G signal.
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You just really like to poke holes or come at me don't you? Annoying, okay fine. I see how that can be annoying for those in marginals areas, to each their own. I'm more of a function over form type of guy and when it comes down to it, I'd rather just deal with the switching to know what network I'm on rather then changing icons or disabling it from showing the change in networks. Again to each their own which is why I offered my help. You're right, locking on to only the cell tower with 3G would be ideal but without said microcell, I think the OP is SOL for now.
Again, to the OP and to answer his questions, I don't know of anyway to prevent the change. I don't know of anyway to keep just 3G on or turn off 4G so it doesn't change so much. Like I said, I think the work around here would be to just change icons so that even if it does switch you'll only see one icon and thus eliminating the change in the status bar. If that works, you can always check the network in the about phone section.
by default it will latch onto 4g even if its a weaker (but usable signal) im trying to find the build.prop setting that will make it pick the stronger signal over speed. i remember seeing that before.
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ro.ril.hsxpa=2 should put it to 3g. i have no signal where i work so i cant test. backup, change it, reboot and see.
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by default it will latch onto 4g even if its a weaker (but usable signal) im trying to find the build.prop setting that will make it pick the stronger signal over speed. i remember seeing that before.
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ro.ril.hsxpa=2 should put it to 3g. i have no signal where i work so i cant test. backup, change it, reboot and see.
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I'll give this a whirl, completely forgot about the build.prop..since being on Abso I haven't had to mess with it in a while, I'll give this a whirl and let the OP know. Thanks Dar!
edit: just tried it, still sticking on H for me, but I believe it may be because of where I am located. I get 4G speeds/signal so it rarely needs to bounce to 3G, hope the OP can test this out.
as a super noob i was playing around in there not knowing what i was doing, and completely made it lock me to 3g/2g mode and i was rather upset lol.
thanks bacon!
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heres a good read
http://forum.smartphonegeeks.in/index.php?topic=2414.0
edit: OP is using an older radio too i see, might be worth going to 26.10.04.03_M, IMO has worked perfect for any rom ive used even ics roms.
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You just really like to poke holes or come at me don't you? Annoying, okay fine. I see how that can be annoying for those in marginals areas, to each their own. I'm more of a function over form type of guy and when it comes down to it, I'd rather just deal with the switching to know what network I'm on rather then changing icons or disabling it from showing the change in networks. Again to each their own which is why I offered my help. You're right, locking on to only the cell tower with 3G would be ideal but without said microcell, I think the OP is SOL for now.
Again, to the OP and to answer his questions, I don't know of anyway to prevent the change. I don't know of anyway to keep just 3G on or turn off 4G so it doesn't change so much. Like I said, I think the work around here would be to just change icons so that even if it does switch you'll only see one icon and thus eliminating the change in the status bar. If that works, you can always check the network in the about phone section.
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Just giving info bro, especially since I have first hand experience with this. It was a problem for me even when it was switching between 3G and Edge, which is what prompted me to get the microcell. Not everyone's situation will be the same as yours. If you feel like that is poking holes, then so be it, but the holes already exist because of this. No poking needed. The icons displayed are really meaningless in comparison to the actual signal. If you were experiencing the constant drop calls, I feel you would think differently. The phone is switching due to the cellular signal, the data just switches along with. It would be more useful if the op could lock to a specific tower. This is why the microcell works. It is the strongest cell signal near the phone, so the phone stays locked to it as long as you are in the proper range.
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Just giving info bro, especially since I have first hand experience with this. It was a problem for me even when it was switching between 3G and Edge, which is what prompted me to get the microcell. Not everyone's situation will be the same as yours. If you feel like that is poking holes, then so be it, but the holes already exist because of this. No poking needed. The icons displayed are really meaningless in comparison to the actual signal. If you were experiencing the constant drop calls, I feel you would think differently. The phone is switching due to the cellular signal, the data just switches along with. It would be more useful if the op could lock to a specific tower. This is why the microcell works. It is the strongest cell signal near the phone, so the phone stays locked to it as long as you are in the proper range.
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im goin a lil offtopic, but i need more feedback to continue helping. anyways, how do you like the microcell? i been contemplating getting one where as if i sit down in my apartment i lose my calls and some rooms i get nothing. its annoying.
@ Darunion....I have had my microcell for a year and a half now and, while it has not worked flawless, it has worked good enough to be able to get rid of my home phone. I still get an occasional dropped call, but at least the cell phones in my home have been usable since getting it. I do recommend it in those really tough situations where there is lack of even a decent signal in one's area.
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@ Darunion....I have had my microcell for a year and a half now and, while it has not worked flawless, it has worked good enough to be able to get rid of my home phone. I still get an occasional dropped call, but at least the cell phones in my home have been usable since getting it. I do recommend it in those really tough situations where there is lack of even a decent signal in one's area.
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i think that may be my next buy. tired of having to sit next to a window to even send a text. lol
Oh having it swap between signals will be a huge battery drain as it is always bouncing back and forth. There is an Something somewhere that should be able to stop it from trying to connect to the 3.5g network. ATT has no 4g. A seach will tell you what you want to know.
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I got the phone on day one. The first thing I noticed as I looked at the phone as I walked out the door to my car was the 4g icon. Yay, I am on 4g! Wait, where did the icon go? It's pretty much been that way since I have had it. I keep it on Wifi at home. To put it on 4g, pretty much kills having a MOBILE smartphone. Data is the lifeblood of a smartphone and if it is not there, what's the point.
I have tried every single fix read here (and other forums). Including:
Rev A fix
Hard Reset
Pulling Battery and Sim card and placing back in
I have tried everything but take the phone back and complaining (rooted it).
Per the Verizon coverage map, I am (my house) in a 4g area. On the map, they ask for your address and it say's "I am covered" for 4g. I will note there are a few pockets on the map near my home that is 4g extended. I had been thinking it's just my area. As I would drive around, it would seem to lock onto 4g. But lately, no matter where I go, 4g goes in and out.
When the 4g goes in and out, it is killing all data. It's not like it quickly finds the 3g and resumes data transfer, it just stops. Goes to 1x after a while mostley.
So where I am at right now is that I have forced 3g (using Phone Info app) and now can get reliable mobile data.
Should I be patience with the network and wait it out or should I take this back and ***** (possibly being the device itself)? When does one suppose a possible software fix will be put out for the Thunderbolt?
Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
If thats the case I know you said you tried the Rev A fix but just to double check did you:
Use the ##778# menu (hit call after ##778#)-->password is 000000-->modem settings-->Rev A-->choose enable-->hit the menu button on the tbolt and commit changes
Also have you had verizon try to swap out your sim card and/or called them up and made sure your current sim card is provisioned correctly? If both of these are the case and you tried all the other standard stuff I would go get the phone swapped out for another new device before your time runs out. I had the same problem and the Rev A fix did it for me.
jvward
What city are you in?
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What city are you in?
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
Maybe return it and get a new TB?
I didn't have 4G in my home although Verizon's little "insert address" said I would. When I called, however, they said that I was on the border and it's a tough call for now.
When I started driving around to different areas, however, it picked up 4G signal just fine. When driving back into a 3G area it switched with no issue.
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What city are you in?
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And thats the right question to ask.
My 4G, in Los Angeles, is amazing. But Verizon is just starting to get 4G up and running in many cities right now, cant expect to have great coverage for many more months.
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Hey Man,
I read your post and I am a little confused. In summary is your issue that you dont have great 4G coverage by your house and 3G isnt picking up when 4g drops off?
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When the 4g drops, data stops. No icon. Sometimes 3g shows up. Mostly 1x. Lately, nothing. No icon, no data.
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Cincinnati area. Northern suburb. Close to towers and major highways.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
Almost, but hanging on by a thread....
I am new to Verizon and I picked this up the day after launch. My two weeks are up. I am not in the 4G area (home), but spend most of my waking moment in a 4G area (work). While the phone itself doesn't have a hard time switching between networks on the handheld (I've watched it go from 3 to 4G while driving, I can almost pinpoint the switching area), it does have a hard time when in WiFi Hotspot Mode.
Here's what I mean. I'll be on wireless tether in a 4G zone and then without notice, the phone reports (via Hotspot App) that there is no mobile network ready and there is no data connection icon on the top menu bar. My Xoom is much more reliable on maintaining a connection (3G of course).
This is my only complaint about the 4G network, but it's a small one. The handheld itself is wonderful. I'm keeping both for now.
Check out my speed test on WiFi tether.
Verizon confirmed on the phone with me that there is in fact a bug in HTCs software switching from 4G to 3G when coverage drops. It should be fixed... In the mean time make sure you are using an app from the market to switch to 3G only unless you need 4G.
Other than that, just return it and wait for something else.
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I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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LOL. I live straight down 747 in Liberty Twp. (few miles up from Beckett Ridge). Driving around would get me a better connection (4g) at first but lately, as I drive around, it's all over the board. Most the time there is no data icon. I have another app (Phone Info) that has a toggle.
It gets frustrating in that I don't know if the issue is the phone, network or both. Hard to troubleshoot. I suppose I should mosey on down to the mall for anything and see what kind of 4g I get.
I am in almost the same situation as the OP, I have 4G everywhere but my home which I have confirmed with VZW is in a 4G coverage area, not an extended coverage area either. I have narrowed it down to my street exactly. Right after I turn down imy street I lose 4G.
I then once I am home and no I don't mean indoors just at my house I frequently go between nothing, 1x, and 3G(Very Weak) with sporadic data. Will not get 4G back unless I drive around. This is my second device, and second trouble ticket with VZW this time giving more detailed information.
I have also tried every possible solution but unfortunately switching to Rev. A is not a "solution" for me as I am in a 4G area and if I wanted 3G I probably would have just kept my Droid X.
I sure hope this bug if it is one in the software will be fixed with an update or VZW can sort it out if it is my network.
ridobe said:
I'm in northern Cincinnati too. Contact me before you do anything.
Hey, I have had problems too. I work in the Tri-county area and have GREAT 4G coverage. If you look at the 4G map I am right on the cusp (Maineville) of coverage. In my house, it will rotate between 4g/3g/1x constantly. I downloaded the "LTE OnOFF" app from TeamAndIRC and will toggle 3G only when I'm at home. For some reason I STILL HAVE TO DO THIS even though I'm using wi-fi 100%. When I get to work I toggle to 4G. Doing this, my battery life is exceptional. Before I figured it out I was draining my battery overnight every night. I don't know why the wi-fi requires that 3G only be on but it works.
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Update:
Per my experience yesterday, if you are within the 275 loop, you are golden. Once I hit West Chester/Beckett Ridge, LTE started dropping. At my house, it is almost non-existent.
I was curious if anyone thinks that HTC's impending Gingerbread update for the Inspire 4G will fix the issues with the crappy speaker volume and tinny sound?
Probably not being as the DesireHD still suffers from it I believe even after the GB update.
I am not really into rooting, so the rooting arguments aren't valid. I prefer to stay stock.
Also on a different note, how do you tell if you are on 4G? Eventhough I am in a so-called 4G area, my network status always says HSDPA. I though I read somewhere if you are on 4G it says HSPA or HSPA+.
thanks for the info.
It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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It might have a new radio that will fix bugs, but if I were to take a guess I would say no since the ROMs out there now do not.
If it says H+ then you're running 3.5/4G.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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Acutally no, the H+ does not mean you are on 4G. It always says that, even in areas i know for a fact are still 3G. I remember when I got the phone it had the H+ even when AT&T didn't have the 4G network up yet.
I'm pretty sure when you look at the Network status under about phone it changes there. I noticed yesterday that an Atrix with the new GB update now says HSPA under network status.
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That's weird, because mine switches back to 3G sometimes. Maybe it's due to the ROM I'm running. Sorry if I provided wrong info.
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You could always check into getting a warranty replacement cause even before I rooted my speaker hasn't suffered from any sound problems so maybe you have a bad speaker. Also you say you want to stay stock, there is a rooted stock rom in the developers thread.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. The reason AT&T put it like that as to make u believe that their 4g is everywhere and better. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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In reality the H+ will always be on regardless of if ure actually on 3.5, 3.0 or 4.0, atleast with the inspire. The only way is to look under about phone under settings. But in reality it really doesn't matter as At&ts 4g is not 4g regardless of what they call it.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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Well regardless of it not being true 4G, there has to be an indicator somewhere on what 3G variant you are on.
Being as the Atrix now displays HSPA on the new GB rom, unlike when it still said HSDPA in the same area with an Atrix which was still on 2.2 leads me to believe the radio in GB must be more accurate in showing what network you are on.
I am guessing that the Inspire is currently not displaying correctly being as it still says HSDPA sitting right next to an Atrix on GB which says HSPA under About Phone and Network.
My Inspire always says HSDPA regardless if I am in a so-called "4G" area or not.
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It is most likely that the inspire just wasn't configured to show the HSPA. Att might have thought they were gonna get an update out first. Could be the atrix is set if the data speed hits a mark it changes the HSPA and the Inspire isn't set for it yet. The only true test would be doing a speed test on both.
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I know it's not a bad phone. I've had mine before the general public got them. Everyone I know that went to that HTC conference complained about the bad speaker volume and clarity. Actually there are many threads on here and other forums with a ton of people complaining about it. Even the Devs made patches to try and fix it.
So I know it's a design issue.
Here's an example. If my iPhone is sitting downstairs on the table and I am upstairs, I can hear if I get a text or email. With my Inspire, I can't even hear it if it is on my belt and I am standing outside. If I didn't have it on vibrate I wouldn't even know I received a text. A few co workers who have the Inspire have the same issues, and their from different batches.
Bluetooth is also weird. If I have my BlueAnt on and get more than 10 feet from the phone it disconnects. With my iphone I can be on the other side of the house away from my phone and it still stays connected.
But anyway, I'm still trying to figure out the 4G indicator to know when I'm actually in 4G. I thought I remembered people here talking about it awhile back, but can't find any threads on it.
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Its not just you, the speaker is crap and so is the bluetooth, and so is the cell radio,and so is the battery, and the screen pops up, and.... LOL
I have 2 inspires and have had nothing but trouble. First htc that has let me down. I had a friend that went through 3 inspires trying to get the bluetooth fixed and they were all the same, he has since moved on. Hell I can put my phone right next to my radio and cover the bluetooth ant with my hand and get it to break up, pure crap. If I use a bluetooth headset it will start to get staticy if I put the phone in my pocket.I honestly think it has allot to do with the metal body.
I hate to be debbie downer but its true. You will be hard pressed to find allot of negative posts here because we have pride in ownership. I personally dont care. I call a spade a spade, and this phone has some serious issues. Not to say I dont like the phone because I do. But without the dev support I would have chucked this flacker a long time ago. With the proper rom its just so fast.
Now I will say that ever since I moved to virtuous unity my speaker is worlds better. I have flashed a **** ton of roms and vu has the best speaker performance for my inspires by far. I tried +20% kernels,dsp manager,volume apk and all that stuff. sure it made the volume louder some but it sounded like ass and still wasnt even close to being loud. with virtuous unity I am actually somewhat satisfied. Youtube videos and stuff still lack, but its worlds better.
As for actually being on the hspa+ signal or not, I dont know. On the stock rom I am almost certain the 3g,hspda, and hspa+ are all signified by h+. I know that allot of dev roms differentiate between 3g and hspa. But quiet honestly the speed difference is not night and day anyway. Your iphone probably gets damn near the same speeds. Some guys are getting 8megs and ****, but I have yet to go over 5 and I can get that with an iphone or other 3g android. And yes I am in a hspa+ area with increased backhaul.
I live in an area mostly covered by "4g" LTE. My charge will sometimes connect to LTE in my bedroom, but most of the time it can't. Every time it briefly connects to 4g in my home, however, it does not hand back off to 3g for a good 5 minutes or so. Instead, I lose all data connectivity. I've tried turning data mode off then back on, but it doesn't work. After about 5 minutes or so with no data signal, it'll reconnect to 3g. Does anyone know what could be causing this? Is there a way to fix it without just turning the LTE off (switching to CDMA only)? I get LTE in most areas around my house but apparently I live in a Faraday cage or black hole or something.
This is a 100% stock ROM, not rooted, never flashed any new ROMs or Modems.
Man, I have the same issue. I feel ur pain. I was downloading files on 4G and at around 34 percent, it cut out and went on 1x. Stayed there. And I was outside in a wide open spot. It happens man, I was told there's something wrong that causes the data signal cycling like that. I've tried what u tried also. If u can get a straight answer, let me know too lol. And to top it all off, HORRIBLE BATTERY LIFE.
Sent from deez nutts. Oh, and my Gummy'd up Charge!!!!
The handoff process from LTE to CDMA is still pretty cagey. Fortunately, it's mostly software, so updates should help this process.
I haven't done any research on whether EP1F or EP1H (the leaked Gingerbread builds) are any better at it, but I would have to assume that it's part of the process they're working on with modem updates, etc.
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The handoff process from LTE to CDMA is still pretty cagey. Fortunately, it's mostly software, so updates should help this process.
I haven't done any research on whether EP1F or EP1H (the leaked Gingerbread builds) are any better at it, but I would have to assume that it's part of the process they're working on with modem updates, etc.
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when i was with ep1f the radio worked better for me. i was able to connect more frequently to 4g and switching was hassle free (no time outs). it's possible that the problem is on verizon's side since my cousin, who's on stock, is having the same problems in an entirely 4g area.
You might have a ****ty SIM card.
When I first got my Charge it was very similar to your situation. I had poor 4G connectivity in my supposed "fringe" area. Then a week ago it was losing connectivity from 4G to 3G and eventually stopped getting 3G all together.
I got a new SIM and now I get 4G in places where I only get 1 to 2 bars of call signal.
And I also stay on 4G a lot longer. Almost never does it switch over on long downloads or streaming vid.
PS: HAHAHA "long downloads". Sometimes a 300MB download will take much less than a minute depending on where it's coming from.
It must suck to make believe you have fast data. Right, AT&T? HAHAHAHA WiMax!!!
OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
I too have noticed this issue. I'm sure it will be fixed quickly. Such is the penalty to being an early adapter.
Doesn't affect my calling in no way whatsoever. Does mess with my browsing a bit, and after connecting to my home wifi i can say that the switching is definitely the cause.
Hope it gets a quick and tidy fix soon.
yep I see it all the time, doesnt bother me though
I think this is a bug in all HOS
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The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between 3G and H based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on 3G, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
Agreed with the OP, this is annoying, because while the device is in this period of switching there is no data transfer possible, it can stay like this for a long time, sya a few minutes not just a few seconds.
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The Galaxy Nexus does this. It switches between H and H+ based on what is being done. If you're not browsing it is on H, and if you're browsing and actively using the connection it switches to H+. My One S doesn't do this at all unless I'm in a fringe area.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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I understand haha and I haven't had a single problem except one place where I frequent is a fringe area and it will go from one bar or "4G" down to 2G but that's about it.
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You sir... are wrong or lying.
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No, it's nothing like that at all. I came from a Nexus S, which had HSPA (not +), and it would switch from 3g to H, and it was never a problem. The issue here is that once it gets to H, it suddenly dies out, switches back to 3g, goes for a sec, dies, switches to 4g, and over and over again. It's nothing like what you're describing, because I'm very familiar with your situation.
In your situation, as you described, it switches based on usage. So, if you're using data a bunch, it'll switch to HSPA+ and stay there until activity dies down. On the One S, it switches back right in the middle of doing data-intensive work. And it ruins the connection.
Let's put it this way: I cant even perform the Speed Test app half the time because the connection gets interrupted and dropped. I've had less than 50% success rate with finishing that test, and I usually only succeed by timing it based on the switching.
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Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
yech22 said:
Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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The Nexus S shows H when using the connection and 3G when not.
AOSP sees UMTS as 3G and HSDPA/HSPA/HSPA+ as H. It will sit on UMTS until you are using mobile data, then it will switch to H.
So yes, the phone can switch between 3G and H while being used. HSPA and variants ARE 3G, but are seen as 4G, thus H. It doesn't even sound like you had a Nexus S so how would you even know what the status bar does?
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yech22 said:
Lets see... HSPA and 3g = the same thing. You claiming your Nexus S switches between H and 3g is total utter BS. The H moniker in the notification bar is ONLY a reference to HSPA+ otherwise known by carriers as 4G.
Nexus S does not, never did, never will, switch between H and 3g. It just doesn't have the hardware. Since you are obviously a liar or just wrong, I discount the rest of your post as well.
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LOL, with all due respect, you just made yourself look like a fool. If you actually owned a Nexus S or looked up its specifications, it is capable of 7.2mbps HSDPA (H, or sometimes described as 3.5G), whereas UMTS is described at traditional 3G. HSDPA was and has never been considered 3G. It's definitely a step up.
Traditional 3G has never been capable of 7.2mbps downstream. I invite you to do some research here regarding the differences. I'll assume since you had time to time to craft a clever little response, that you can take time to read up on it.
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that it typically stays on regular 3G (UMTS...NOT HSPA) when not very active, and switches to H (HSDPA).
Again, had you actually owned a Nexus S or researched it, you would have found that in the System Settings, that network mode is easily found, and either displays HSPA (H/3.5G) or UMTS(3G).
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
SFP said:
Another links for explanations....scroll to the bottom for this statement
"Three has now backed down and agreed that HSPA+ is not 4G"
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/20...rk-with-42mbps-capable-evolved-hspa-tech.html
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I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
Apologies, I wasn't challenging what you'd written, think I'm confused too :rolleyes
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I don't think that's ever been up for debate. However, the stock ROM displays HSPA and HSPA+ connections as "4G", and so do some of the modded ROMs. I'm not here for a debate on what's true 4g. This thread has somehow transformed....
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I'm only here because of the know it all on the first page
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I have this problem with my phone as well. I just want to throw something else out there also.
On my Nexus one when I had CM7 depending on what I was doing it could display 3g change to H. The thing is though that when 3g was displayed you actually had no data connection.
It seems something similar is going on here because the behavior isn't a slow down in the connection speed rather it's an actual break in the connection (downloads stop, speedtest does nothing, etc.)
We might not have a problem with the phone switching back and forth between 3g and 4g. Rather the phone could be switching from 4g to nothing to 4g. Only it's so fast the icons don't display the whole story (this is my personal belief)
You can see the same type of behavior when switching from WCDMA only to GSM Only
It starts at H
Then briefly 3G
Then no letter
Then E
I've tried to find a way to get the phone locked on 3g but I can only get 2g or 4g.
nickmv said:
OK, so as I'm sure some of you are seeing, there's an issue with the HSPA/UMTS switching. Like a LOT. I've tried to do Speed Tests, but simply am not able to, because the connection wants to switch from 3g to 4g and back over and over again.
I wanna see how many of you are aware of this and are fed up with it. It's kind of silly. C'mon HTC.
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I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
majalo said:
I can't remember whether you've mentioned this somewhere else, but what radio are you using? I'm curious as to whether you received a phone that didn't get an updated to release radio? I haven't had any problems.
I'm on 0.16.31501S.02
Also, I NEVER see 3G on my phone. I wonder if that actually helps my situation. I'm mostly always at full 4G, but will sometimes drop to 2G, or even G, depending on whether I'm in a shielded area or passing through a dead zone. I wonder if this could actually be working for me/against you?
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I only go between 4G and 2G when in fringe areas as well. Haven't seen 3G once.
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Solved my problem
I had the same problem of my Galaxy SII switching back and forth between data types. I had tried putting my iPhone 4 SIM into my Android (with an adapter). Turns out that my problem was with the SIM. I needed a different SIM for this type of phone.
Just positing this in case it helps anyone. Try visiting your carrier and ask for a different SIM.
Flash my T-Mobile ROM and it'll fix the issue.
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.
jell3d said:
I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.
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Sweet, thanks
Yes, I was just about to create a thread asking the same thing. The signal icon turns to an empty triangle randomly for no more than a minute. It's been happening all day =/
The phone is locked and 3G is working. Not sure about LTE just yet.
Edit: Here's a pic (lasted ~30 seconds)
http://i.imgur.com/mS4EUgd.jpg
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I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.
KiNG OMaR said:
I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.
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I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
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Cheater912 said:
I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
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I have experienced random signal drops, even when I have full bars. It might only happen when it's switching between LTE/HSPA, but I haven't really payed attention.
Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.
I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
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Cheater912 said:
I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I have been having the same problem at work and I can trace it to switching between network types. LTE to 3G to 1x. At home I'm good to go. I think it may be because Sprint installed a micro cell in our building and it's not LTE compatible.
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Might just be a not so great radio software/firmware at the moment. Most likely future updates will make it better. Now, that doesn't help you in the interim but that's most likely it.
my worst fear.. LG's are notorious for dropping signal. I know this because my old LG Optimus G did it, and many others had this problem as well. You can google or look at my old posts.
I ran a Network Signal Pro log last night and it was a constant signal/no signal. Not sure if it was just voice or voice and date. I have attached it, if someone who knows how to read that better than me could look at it that would be great. I'm running another log right now, will be 60 minutes with a 30 poling rate. I'll post that later. The signal is pretty weak since I am in a hangar at an airport. So we will see how it is.
TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I'm having this issue -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516543
I thought it was a bad sim/the fact that sprint doesn't even recognize the device. I plan on waiting until the 8th to take any action personally.
lilotimz said:
Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.
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Why should any "tweaking' be required? GSM networks have let on all phones for years. It would seem that once Sprint allows a phone on the network, it should be in the same position as a GSM network with respect to phones that it did not sell.
Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?
Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
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Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?
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Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.
TempeDuck said:
Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.
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Ah - other side of the country. Didn't see you had it in your profile as well, my bad.
Other side of the country which makes me nervous that it's not a sprint issue - I'm in Detroit near campus martius and still having similar issues.
it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG
dicecuber said:
it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG
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I feel it may be a sprint issue only due to it constantly losing connection of EHRPD but it being fine now that I on on EVDO A at work. It is the same radio and antenna for EHRPD and EVDO A, right?
I'm going to Salt Lake City this weekend, I'll have to see how it preforms there.