What ChaCha is this? - HTC ChaCha

I just got a HTC ChaCha and its very different from what I saw in shops and expected.. I think its a test model or something like this.
- the backplate is not original (i think)
- the facebook button is smaller and different color
- the keyboard has a different blue color, more lightish
- the light behind the home, menu and back button is blueish and for the search button is white
What do u think?

Did you buy this in a store? Ro store? Or second-hand?
You should email HTC with these pics attached; I have a feeling that this is a test phone/display phone.

I got it from "baieti" aka black market. I will email HTC but I would like to keep the phone, if the lock it or something this is not good
Anyway i saw that its S-OFF and now I am trying to flash a lighter custom ROM

Ah ok, don't worry, they won't be able to lock it.
If it's already S-OFF then you can flash CWM and a custom ROM (SuperOSR or CM).

For sure I will be flashing something. thx Alex C

Looks like a pre-release model to me - the Facebook button was changed from that rectangular button to the square one we all have and there's a code of some sort on that device (which also points towards a pre-release device).
What's the software version? Also the Hardware Info in Settings > About Phone > Hardware Information? If my thoughts are right, its software version should be less than 1.xxx.xxx.x and the CPU should be 600Mhz, as the CPU was changed to 800Mhz on retail devices just before launch.

qzfive said:
Looks like a pre-release model to me - the Facebook button was changed from that rectangular button to the square one we all have and there's a code of some sort on that device (which also points towards a pre-release device).
What's the software version? Also the Hardware Info in Settings > About Phone > Hardware Information? If my thoughts are right, its software version should be less than 1.xxx.xxx.x and the CPU should be 600Mhz, as the CPU was changed to 800Mhz on retail devices just before launch.
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Actually the CPU is the same, it was software overclocked to 800Mhz on released devices.

Alex C. said:
Actually the CPU is the same, it was software overclocked to 800Mhz on released devices.
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Ah right - well I was close, kind of
Either way, this Chacha should still say 600Mhz right, if it is indeed the prelease model?

Well the CPU is stated working at 800 but this I think is because the phone has 2.3.3
What else do u need to know (also i think is a test model or prerelease or some sorts)

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[PROJ] Overclocking the Adreno GPU on Snapdragon Devices

I already posted this in the Nexus dev forum, and I hate to clutter the boards, but I know that there are a bunch of talented devs here that may not see it on those forums. If we can bust the 30fps cap for good, and get the GPU overclocked, then we could see some serious gaming performance out of our Snapdragon devices.
I'm sure we all heard about being able to overclock the GPU on some of the old MSM devices, but the Snapdragon handles the graphics chip in a different way. The goal of this thread is to try and overclock the GPU on Snapdragon devices as well.
There is nothing GPU related in acpuclock-scorpion.c (the Snapdragon cpu clock settings) at least for setting gpu clock speed as far as I can tell.
In board-mahimahi.c (Nexus board file) and board-supersonic.c (Evo board file) there is some kgsl init code, but so far as I can tell it isn't setting the clock there, instead it seems to be pointing to PWR_RAIL_GRP_CLK to set the clock in both devices. It defines the variable in each of those files but I'm not sure where that variable is set, since it doesn't seem to be in any of the other board files as far as I can tell. I could be completely off here too though.
In drivers/video/msm/gpu/kgsl/kgsl.c there is a method called kgsl_clk_enable that seems to be called whenever the GPU is enabled. It looks like this:
Code:
/* the hw and clk enable/disable funcs must be either called from softirq or
* with mutex held */
static void kgsl_clk_enable(void)
{
//clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 128000000);
clk_set_rate(kgsl_driver.ebi1_clk, 245000000); // Looks like it sets the GPU clock, right? Wrong.
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.imem_clk); // Enable the clock
clk_enable(kgsl_driver.grp_clk); // Enable another clock, but why?
}
The line that's been commented out is the original value, I replaced it with my value on the line below it in a failed attempt to overclock it. Probably a stupid effort on my part, I doubt it's that simple, but it was worth a shot. The comments at the end of the line are also my additions.
According to the clk.h files in the standard linux kernel, clk_set_rate is obviously a method to set the clock rate. The first variable is a struct that tells it which clock to set, and the second variable is a long value that is the rate you want it set at. Is it setting the right clock there for Snapdragon chips? Or is it only the clock for older chips?
I'm in way over my head with this source, I'm but a lowly Java dev, but I really wanna solve this. Can anyone with a little more experience than me throw in a little more info? Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, if it isn't clear just ask me & I'll try to explain a little more.
Regards,
Jesse C.
EDIT: Okay I did a little more digging and those kgsl settings should work for QSD8x50 chips. In the config file, under Drivers, Graphics Support, it allows you to enable 3D accelleration for QSD8x50 & MSM7x27 chips. The tag for that is CONFIG_MSM_KGSL_MMU. If you check in kgsl.c it checks to see if that is enabled in the config, and if it is then it compiles and uses kgsl.c & all of the kgsl code. That tells me that the clock is either not being set, or the wrong clock is being set. I'm adding some debug code right now so I can see in dmesg what code is actually being run.
Dude I have no idea how to do this but bump and best of luck
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Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..
fstluxe said:
Isn't this Helping ? http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/kernel.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-7x00.c;h=ef178abfcd46cf78dd47962d75298691f887ebf2;hp=d68fea09d1996daeff99365ced9785d65b1cb001;hb=23ff83048726252bc785699fc749a3e364a3bdb0;hpb=110e73c591db3fd23d8558659f8a6a0dfe5ba912
It looks like here he sets the clock writel(grp,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0x84); 0x84
And here is the Orginal topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697673..
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Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.
Geniusdog254 said:
Yeah I saw that, but that won't work for us, because it is for one of the old MSM7500 chips instead of the new QSD chips we have in Snapdragon devices.
I am working on a few things now and I recommend you check the Nexus forum since that thread is a lot more active.
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okey, But as far as I know that code is not standard... Becouse the Vugue msm7500 device is originally WM device.. so the Smart dzo managed this custom code.
I wil follow the nexus form .. This is Damn interesting !
i wish you guys the best of luck..wish i could help..i love xda..lol
I'm going to bump this, would be nice if more people were working on this.
Man... I absolutely love my phone. It really sux that this even needs to be asked. This device is so much more capable and I cannot understand why HTC would cripple it so badly. Look at the Samsung galaxy s or the Droid x. Or even a more similar phone like the nexus or incredible. They all stomp this phone when it comes to anything graphics wise even if it is just swiping home screens. It makes me sad. Lol
I love how it makes you sad, but you still lol. Lol (correctly placed)
This is big but first let's get a true cap fix!
Sent from my Evo 4G
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
jigglywiggly said:
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?
psych2l said:
I'm thinking this is also one of those things awaiting source. Even the overclocked kernals make my phone reset so I'm waiting for a more stable release myself. Since you're still posting here does that mean you decided to keep your evo?
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I don't know, yet I am in deep havoc lol. I activated my phone on the 20th. I have till 13th of July to pay my bill, so don't know.
I mean the locked bootloader of the Droid X is kind of lame. Also on the Evo, I have a 10$ discount because of the IO conference... unlimited texts too, and I bought two batteries for it with a charger(for 10$ lol, and they actually last a long time 1500ma, I put the 2 extras in my wallet)
Also I think I can upgrade my phone right away already if I read things right, so if Sprint gets an awesome phone I can upgrade to that whenever.
Verizon is more expensive, but I like how they let me do a 1 year contract. The Droid X is also nicer, I mean it has a better camera, and the mic quality when taking videos isn't piss, hopefully someone fixes that. It also has a real graphics card.
So yeah, it's hard to decide. A better phone, vs saving me some money. Though I plan to attend the IO conference once again. I'm still porting my distrubuted prime client onto Android, hopefully it will be high performance. So it's not like I just go there for a phone ^^. Hell I didn't even know about the phones till they said "Where do you want the Droid delivered" I lol'd. Though my time is limited, summer classes at UC Berkeley are tough : /
jigglywiggly said:
How is there such little interest in this subject? This intergrated gpu will probably overclock like a beast... and maybe we can get actual fps.
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Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list
some of the source for the OpenGL ES GPU core was announced as being released today
Qualcomm releases open-source 3D Snapdragon driver
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-releases-open-source-3d-snapdragon-driver
havent looked at it yet, but im sure in the very least this should at least help shed some more light on overclocking the GPU and add another piece to the puzzle!
git location -
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...b819424af4be;hb=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32
topdnbass said:
Yep, looks like til we get the kernel in our hands they're tied.
Also what's the point of overclocking if their is still a limit on FPS..
Eventually this will be the next thing on our todo list
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There isn't really a fps cap with the novatek kernel hack. It made the display much smoother for me and I am using it on EvolutionX. So beast.
Good news about the drivers, maybe we can actually see some overclocking now.
I want this to happen!
Nova runs pretty well on the Evo. Gameloft updated it recently.
I would just like for iphone ports to run well.
I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?
patelkedar91 said:
I hear the Palm Pixi has the same GPU. It is clocked at 190mhz. What about the Evo?
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The Pixi doesn't have the same GPU, it has one of the low/mid-range MSM7227 (I think thats the model?) chips. It's similar as it's one of Qualcomms latest gen chips, but it is NOT a Snapdragon so it's different.
Also, the Snapdragon GPU's on HTC devices are clocked as follows:
GRP_CLK: The actual graphics clock, 256mhz
IMEM_CLK: The gpu memory clock, 256mhz
EBI1_CLK: As best I can tell, the bus that the GPU is on is EBI1, this is the clock for it, 128mhz
If you want more info, look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710850 since that thread is a lot more active, but please don't clutter it, there's actual devving going on there
Thanks for the info. I just wonder how they're going to get 3d games to work on the Pixi then... weird.
It was announced that the Pixi would get 3d gaming with the 1.4.5 update.
Much better (Y)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ck-overclocking-tuning-snapdragon-s1-t2883708

[Q] How to recognize z520 and z560

Hello,
A friend of mine liked my phone and wants the exact same one. I have the S4 (z520) and in my country all the operators sell the S3 version - z560. The dealer that sold me mine is out of stock now...
We found a re-seller that sells the S4 version, a 100 euro cheaper in stock package with all the stuff, but it seems a bit shady to me.
So the question is how can I check if it really is the S4 or S3 version if it has the stock android? I can compare with mine,still no JB.
Will System->hardware tell any different then mine's Dual core?
The box will tell you. The S3 got 1.7Ghz CPU, while the S4 has 1.5Ghz.
Also, the box also shows the model, z520 in the S4's case.
To check within the phone you need an app that shows the system info (mainly cpu clock). If its 1.5Ghz = S4 and if its 1.7Ghz = S3.
I dont think theres any way to check the cpu clock on the phone without an app for it.
Goatshocker said:
The box will tell you. The S3 got 1.7Ghz CPU, while the S4 has 1.5Ghz.
Also, the box also shows the model, z520 in the S4's case.
To check within the phone you need an app that shows the system info (mainly cpu clock). If its 1.5Ghz = S4 and if its 1.7Ghz = S3.
I dont think theres any way to check the cpu clock on the phone without an app for it.
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Do they have exact the same housing? I have the villeC2 variant. I want to replace a heavily scratched housing and the ebay has only for 520 while the others don't mention anything.
stsaerox said:
Do they have exact the same housing? I have the villeC2 variant. I want to replace a heavily scratched housing and the ebay has only for 520 while the others don't mention anything.
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Yeap, for more confirmation, the cover where you have to slot in your SIM will state the model you have.
CM11 Powered G-Wonder
TiTAN-O-One said:
Yeap, for more confirmation, the cover where you have to slot in your SIM will state the model you have.
CM11 Powered G-Wonder
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Mine beside the voltage states: PJ40200
FCC ID:NM8PJ40200
How can I use this information? I bought it june 2013 and it came with android 4.1.1
Sorry for the bad images I use scanner for them I don't have any other camera.
Menu
Settings
About phone
Antutu, or otther software that will show you, CPU speed.
stsaerox said:
Mine beside the voltage states: PJ40200
FCC ID:NM8PJ40200
How can I use this information? I bought it june 2013 and it came with android 4.1.1
Sorry for the bad images I use scanner for them I don't have any other camera.
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I suggest you go to ROM threads on both S3 and S4 One S. I bet the Devs wld put in the Build of your phone for the ROMS.
Like the guy above me said, you can check ur CPU clock speed by installing a CPU app or just by settings etc
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It doesn't make sense... Neither 1.5 or 1.7. I know that it is villeC2 because bootloader states it and I have viperC2 Rom installed, the one compatible C2 variant.
http://valid.x86.fr/a/8smius

[Q] Buying a used One S - admin mode check?

I will be buying a used One S this week, and would to to check if the hardware and software are ok while handling the phone in person.
I had a Samsung Wave and it was possible to go in admin menu with a special code and test the hardware + firmware.
Is it possible to do this with the one s / android?
I have heard of 1 bug with the one s, where the capacitive keys go a little crazy because of some GSM radios, is it possible to verify this?
Thanks!
AW: [Q] Buying a used One S - admin mode check?
I didnt noticed the helicopterbug anymore since the jellybean update.
What do you mean with testing hard and firmware?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
NQNH said:
I didnt noticed the helicopterbug anymore since the jellybean update.
What do you mean with testing hard and firmware?
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium
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I was thinking about a check of the sensors (acceleration, light, touch) and some firmwares (camera, radio).
For example here is the "service menu" for my samsung wave where i can run test on audio, video, etc.
samsungbadaapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Device-Test.jpg
*#*#3424#*#*
Type that into the dialer, and the HTC Function Test program should come up.
Sent from my One S using Tapatalk 2
usaff22 said:
*#*#3424#*#*
Type that into the dialer, and the HTC Function Test program should come up.
Sent from my One S using Tapatalk 2
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Thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Will it show if the CPU is s4 vs s3 , or can I see that in the android about setting?
newschool said:
Thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
Will it show if the CPU is s4 vs s3 , or can I see that in the android about setting?
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It should say on the box. z520e is S4, z560e is S3.
A quick benchmark with Antutu should also say if it is 1.5GHz (S4) or 1.7GHz (S3)
usaff22 said:
It should say on the box. z520e is S4, z560e is S3.
A quick benchmark with Antutu should also say if it is 1.5GHz (S4) or 1.7GHz (S3)
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Hmm I will not have the box since im buying it used, theres no way to see it in the menu?
newschool said:
Hmm I will not have the box since im buying it used, theres no way to see it in the menu?
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The menu varies largely - some say dual core, some say 1.5GHz Dual Core, some say 1.7GHz Dual core. No good way to tell. Easiest way open antutu benchmark and check the info tab at the bottom of the screen. Adreno 225 means S4, Adreno 220 means S3.

i'm back :}

had MotoQ, BlackBerry Storm, iPhones starting from the 3G... 2 years or so ago i ventured and used a HTC One X for about 3 months.. mainly due to battery life (and the Apple eco system in my house) i went back to iOS and got rid of the HTC. currently have the iPhone 5s.. purchased a HTC One S (this time i am keeping iPhone.. might be switching from time to time), should receive HTC One S on this wednesday, kinda anxious.
Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.
TheEndHK said:
Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.
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I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8
already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()
roeiboot said:
already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()
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Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4
lorddavid said:
Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4
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thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]
roeiboot said:
thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]
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I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use
lorddavid said:
I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use
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thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.
roeiboot said:
thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.
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S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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lorddavid said:
I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8
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There are indeed many of S4 models, they got different of camera, cpu and RAM.
TheEndHK said:
S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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does not come with box.. here's the listing (if it works for you), nothing mentioned by seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/321402139316
thanks.
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
Operating System:
Android
Storage Capacity:
16 GB
UPC:
4710937382075
and:
Product Identifiers
Brand HTC
MPN ONESTMB
Carrier T-Mobile
Family Line HTC One
Model S
UPC 4710937382075, 610214629968
Type Smartphone
Key Features
Storage Capacity 16 GB
Color Black
Network Generation 3G
Network Technology GSM / HSDPA
Band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Style Bar
Camera 8.0 MP
Battery
Battery Capacity 1650 mAh
Display
Display Technology Super Amoled
Other Features
Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
Internet Browser Yes
roeiboot said:
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
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T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.
TheEndHK said:
T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.
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thanks... eases my mind a bit, i will for sure let you know!
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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its s4, ure lucky
roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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thats great man enjoy the phone. I really like the one s

Chinese android phone questions - Xpoko Z8

Hi guys.
First if this isnt the best section for this please move it to where it needs to go.
I was looking around Aliexpress and saw an octo core phone with mtk 6595 cpu, 4gb ram, 13mp camera etc and for the equivalent of £54 cost it seemed too good to be true. unfortunately that now seems the case. i noticed it was quite laggy which you wouldnt think an octo core phone would be and the photos were poor which a 13mp camera shouldnt produce.
so i downloaded some hardware identifying apps. some state the same details that the seller did. some state however - dual core 6572 cpu, 6mp camera. it also shows only 2 point multitouch where as more modern phones would allow more point multitouch. also when i downloaded google camera and went into the resolution settings, 6.2mp is the max allowed.
so i'm having a battle back and forth that either he refunds most of what i paid and lets me keep this poor phone as a spare for my son at a much lower price or pays the return postage costs and shows me some sort of guarantee i'll get my money back when he receives.
So....the question is, how has he or someone else set it so that it can fool some apps into reading incorrect data? and, even if i turn off data all together it still shows 4g for both sims even though 1 isnt even a 4g sim/data plan?
cheers guys.
marc.knuckle said:
Hi guys.
First if this isnt the best section for this please move it to where it needs to go.
I was looking around Aliexpress and saw an octo core phone with mtk 6595 cpu, 4gb ram, 13mp camera etc and for the equivalent of £54 cost it seemed too good to be true. unfortunately that now seems the case. i noticed it was quite laggy which you wouldnt think an octo core phone would be and the photos were poor which a 13mp camera shouldnt produce.
so i downloaded some hardware identifying apps. some state the same details that the seller did. some state however - dual core 6572 cpu, 6mp camera. it also shows only 2 point multitouch where as more modern phones would allow more point multitouch. also when i downloaded google camera and went into the resolution settings, 6.2mp is the max allowed.
so i'm having a battle back and forth that either he refunds most of what i paid and lets me keep this poor phone as a spare for my son at a much lower price or pays the return postage costs and shows me some sort of guarantee i'll get my money back when he receives.
So....the question is, how has he or someone else set it so that it can fool some apps into reading incorrect data? and, even if i turn off data all together it still shows 4g for both sims even though 1 isnt even a 4g sim/data plan?
cheers guys.
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He probably just changed the specs in the build.prop files so it shows that the phone is more powerful than it actually is and changed some images for the sim 4G.
janekmuric said:
He probably just changed the specs in the build.prop files so it shows that the phone is more powerful than it actually is and changed some images for the sim 4G.
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Is there any way to prove this or revert it back to stock without the false info?
If your phone has the mtk 6595 CPU your antutu benchmark must be 40000 or more if not then its probably a scam phone download and run the latest antutu benchmark 35000 is fine too but not 25000
Bigbossyousef said:
If your phone has the mtk 6595 CPU your antutu benchmark must be 40000 or more if not then its probably a scam phone download and run the latest antutu benchmark 35000 is fine too but not 25000
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it fails to finish the test saying something about failed network something or other yet still shows 48695 score. it actually doesnt mean much whatever the score is as it runs sluggishly, wont run any games like dead trigger 2 or similar and stutters playing youtube vids. also google camera shows max camera resolution allowed is 6.2mp rather than the 13mp claimed.
marc.knuckle said:
Is there any way to prove this or revert it back to stock without the false info?
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It's possible but there is no point in that since it won't do anything to the speed of the device. You would just be wasting time.
janekmuric said:
It's possible but there is no point in that since it won't do anything to the speed of the device. You would just be wasting time.
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Part of the reason is for proof to get a refund and the other reason is if i keep it and eventually sell it, I'd want to have the correct details on it
marc.knuckle said:
Part of the reason is for proof to get a refund and the other reason is if i keep it and eventually sell it, I'd want to have the correct details on it
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Just download CPU-Z it shows all the correct specs. Then edit the build.prop file so the specs are matching. Make sure to do some research before you cahange anything in the build.prop and always remember to make a backup.
janekmuric said:
Just download CPU-Z it shows all the correct specs. Then edit the build.prop file so the specs are matching. Make sure to do some research before you cahange anything in the build.prop and always remember to make a backup.
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cpuz shows it as octa core but specifically that only 2 cores are working and only at 1.2ghz which is further confirming that it is actually a mt6572.
also, any ideas if there are custom roms that i could install and would this then wipe the fake build.prop details?
thanks again
marc.knuckle said:
cpuz shows it as octa core but specifically that only 2 cores are working and only at 1.2ghz which is further confirming that it is actually a mt6572.
also, any ideas if there are custom roms that i could install and would this then wipe the fake build.prop details?
thanks again
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I didn't find any roms for your phone, but you don't need to install a rom to change build.prop details. Also build.prop does not contain most of the specs. A lot of them are in the hardware and in the kernel.
janekmuric said:
I didn't find any roms for your phone, but you don't need to install a rom to change build.prop details. Also build.prop does not contain most of the specs. A lot of them are in the hardware and in the kernel.
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I couldn't find a rom either. I didn't know if there was such a thing as a generic lollipop rom that could be flashed to any mediatek phone.
I didn't want to just edit the build.prop myself to the specs that i think it should have, i wanted to do some sort of wipe that would then correct it automatically.
Thanks again.
marc.knuckle said:
I couldn't find a rom either. I didn't know if there was such a thing as a generic lollipop rom that could be flashed to any mediatek phone.
I didn't want to just edit the build.prop myself to the specs that i think it should have, i wanted to do some sort of wipe that would then correct it automatically.
Thanks again.
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Well, there isn't such a thing as a generic rom, but you still can make a recovery with MTKDroidTools or Easy Magic TWRP Installer (Recommended)
Try an app called hardware info also try asphalt 8 and beach buggy racing and gt racing too you can't judge a device playing one game if all games lag even on low graphics then its a scam and about ( CPU z) showing only two cores working might be due to the fact that most phones disable most of the cpu cores in idle mode but all core do work while gaming I have a lenovo a3500 with four cores( set CPU) shows only two cores working in idle but it reads 4 cores total so it doesn't mean that the cpu is fake if all cores are not active in idle in fact if all cores work in idle it would be a huge waste of battery and no mobile os wants to do that my last advice is to try several games and see
And remember gaming performance depends heavily on the GPU ( the graphics card ) and your phone might have the Mali mp you and its not good enough for most games nowadays
A quick list for you explaning performance rating asphalt 8 1280 x 800 high
Mali mp ( 4 fps )
Mali mp2 ( 7 fps )
Adreno 305 (17 fps )
Power vr 6430 ( 24 fps )
So run hardware info app and see if you have Mali or power vr 6430 if you have Mali then it explanes the bad performance due to what I said earlier

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