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Hi guys Rogers is getting the captivate next week is it worth the switch?
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Rogers has had the captivate for almost a year?
I don't understand your question.
I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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Lol that's right
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I think he means rogers is getting the nexus s next week. Wondering if its worth the switch from captivate.
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I've wondered the same thing. I bought my cappy off contract and now have an upgrade choice. Dont think its worth using my upgrade. Gonna wait for something better later (sgs2? )
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Ya I got mine week ago so I have option to return it since there is so many problems and battery life I don't like.
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I'd say get it. It has native gingerbread and a front facing camera. And Google support so you know it will get updates on time!
All the great roms on this forum have made my phone enjoyable. If you aren't into flashing custom roms and all that, you probably should take it back. But dont get the nexus s. I'd say wait and se what the xperia arc reviews are like. That should be launching next month. Looks like a nice phone, except the locked bootloader.
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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Ya ibhave x10 not much fun cause of lock bootloader and my cappy running di11is rom
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But if you are looking for a more customizable phone, get the nexus s.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Lol thank you and also thanks for translating. You read my mind haha
rnewton01 said:
but what I think he means is that he can return his captivate because he just got it. Then buy nexus s next week. I'd suggest doing that if possible. My 2 cents anyways
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Nexus S seems to have a locked bootloader(as mentioned), but another strike against it for me is no card slot: you are essentially stuck with 16GB, which should be enough for most people but it's nice to have to option to expand. Add to that an inability to shoot HD video and a less-flexible camera software and the Captivate still has the edge. You'd be better off holding out for some of the juicier dual-core whizbangs coming out this summer.
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If you have an upgrade, wait for something that is significantly better than the captivate. The Nexus S is almost the same phone with some minor differences... We'll have GB eventually anyway.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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Captivate already has GB, through CM7.
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you and many other people need to be corrected (your sig included)
CM7 is NOT stock 2.3.3
it is built off the stock but MODIFIED. it is not stock gingerbread. its is CM's mod of gingerbread.
and on top of that it is still beta.
short answer is captivate is for users and nexus is for developers. the proprietary drivers on galaxy s phones are quite nice with hd video recording and some other things, also like the lockscreens and notification bars that incorperate the music player. but the advantages of samsung software come at a cost. the bluetooth 3.0 driver limits the usefulness, ie very few game controllers work. gingerbread also has obvious performance advantages on the hummingbird chip. but i believe the graphics benchmark in quadrant crashes because the 3d drivers are not designed to work with something in quadrant.
neither is a bad phone for most people, they are both the better looking of the galaxy s series with no iphone like bezels and each has a uniquness. things like hd video are over rated because the sensor isn't quite good enough so 720p recording comes out a little darker, better for a bright day really. and the graphical advantages of the captivate are not important to most because the powervr540 chp is so far ahead of the curve in the first place. run graphical benchmarks on a captivate vs any other phone and you will see better frame rates and the picture quality is far better, but there are many reasons to look at other phones.
the advantages of the nexus are also not make or break, from a user standpoint you would have a hard time coming up with an advantage to gingerbread. it is faster but is the captivate slow? well it can hang briefly in some situations but i was using a live display at bestbuy, it was butter smooth and was still on jf7, no froyo. i think the lag is a myth and total placebo effect perpetuated by reading this forum, the power of suggestion goes a long way. jf6 may have been a buggy rom but the later models are not that bad.
the wp7 htc surround was showing the connect to pc sign, lol even there phones have a bsod equivelant, and the nexus s was locked up, needed a battery pull but that would set off the alarm so they left it that way.
if it comes down to making the decision decide based on feature set and ui. if you like twiz smart dialer feature and sweeping contact menus and music player or if you have a big library of high quality music recodings (cd quality or better) and need all the storage posible then get a cappy, if you like to video chat or prefer an aosp rom or gaming via external controller then go for the nexus.
if i was to make a perfect phone it would be the nexus plus an hdmi port sd expansion slot and twiz dialer contacts and music player and samsung video drivers, i think the nexus looks better but i still envy phones with hdmi and the next generation of samsung phones are supposed to have a wireless equivalent to hdmi, not dlna that only plays files but a wireless link that transfers whats on your screen, this disappoints me because then you need a tv with the technology or a reciever. samsung tries too much to bring new things to the market without supporting old ways of doing things, a phone that can transmit hd but doesnt have hdmi is useless to most people, adding a new technology is great but taking out the world standard just reduces the usefulness. this is what happened with bt 3.0. ok wow it has a new bluetooth version great, but the bluetooth stack doesnt work with popular products on the market, although it is backwards compatable with bt 2.1 it lacks a meathod to pair certain products. not cool samsung! te same will happen to the galaxy s 2 and i would like to see if the infuse has hdmi. if it does i may get the infuse despite the galaxy s 2 being technically better. if no hdmi i will hold on to the cappy till something else comes out that i get excited over, maybe an htc if samsung doesnt get support for drm built into the chipset that is compatable with netflix.
I would wait for something better than the captivate.
The nexus S really isn't much better overall then the captivate, and has some major downsides.
If you just got the captivate and the question is whether to return it, then it depends what you need. For me the deal breaker is no SD card slot, and since I store all my music on my phone, I need the extra storage. The Nexus S on the other hand, has better long-term support, if you consider that google still updates the Nexus 1.
The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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The Captivate has enough problems that I would not buy one again, especially given that it is almost a year old and there are much better, newer phones. That said, I am not in a hurry to upgrade because I already went through the pain of having the TIB replaced and the remaining problems (no front-facing camera, no led indicator, mediocre battery life) are not bad enough to justify blowing a bunch of money before the end of my contract.
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I think thats really what it comes down to. Sure the cappy has problems, but most are fixed, all that is left are any hardware you want which it lacks (like a front-facing camera). Under these conditions, the phones on the market right now just aren't appealing enough. We're just starting to see tegra and dual core devices, so certainly waiting a year or more for these devices to become the standard is a good idea. Right now the cappy is a high-end phone, and the dual cores currently aren't much better. Waiting until there is a real difference is key.
I've got a year and a half before I can upgrade, but I know by the time that rolls around, there will be some very good devices on the market. And honestly, captivate development isn't slowing. we're getting 2.3, and it's smooth as butter on our device.
Its time to get a new phone. I haven't decide between the G2X and the sensation. So I ask if you would recommended the G2X. Please say why you would or would not.
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Once the bugs are fixed I'd stick this phone up against any phone out there. I like the phone a lot with bugs might love it without the bugs.
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No. I've warned people away from it already who have asked me. I don't want to be the person who advised the phone and they get one that has all the issues we read.
I fully recommend it. Its a great phone all around. Sensation has lots of issues you could encounter as well as the g2x. Personally I've barely had any problems with the phone at all. Its super fast and snappy and I'm thinking after using it I can't ever go slower without feeling inferior. I've read a lot about each phone and here's my take... if you want a phone that's got slightly better hardware and a stripped down ui (no sense) then go g2x. If your not so critical about quality and basic ui and want a more flashy yet slightly bogged down phone that's a little more user friendly go sensation. Neither phone is superior than the other, just personal preference. Personally I love my g2x and I think the sensation looks cheap in comparison.
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unique77 said:
I fully recommend it. Its a great phone all around. Sensation has lots of issues you could encounter as well as the g2x. Personally I've barely had any problems with the phone at all. Its super fast and snappy and I'm thinking after using it I can't ever go slower without feeling inferior. I've read a lot about each phone and here's my take... if you want a phone that's got slightly better hardware and a stripped down ui (no sense) then go g2x. If your not so critical about quality and basic ui and want a more flashy yet slightly bogged down phone that's a little more user friendly go sensation. Neither phone is superior than the other, just personal preference. Personally I love my g2x and I think the sensation looks cheap in comparison.
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Agree 100%
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The G2x is awesome if you have a little patience and don't mind doing a few tinkerings yourself to fix a bug or two.
The G2x is the best phone out on the fence with the Samsung Galaxy S II and the best, hands down, phone for games.
The phone itself is amazing but was rushed out of the gate with gimped software. Luckily we have great devs here that quickly came to the rescue. LG has also put out two test updates and preparing for a final release. We also have CM7.1 and Miui rooms, custom OC/UV kernels and the whole nine.
The G2x is a hackers delite right now but not at the point where it is ready for your grandmother. Once the final-stage update hits things will be smooth sailing for all.
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The G2x is awesome if you have a little patience and don't mind doing a few tinkerings yourself to fix a bug or two.
The G2x is the best phone out on the fence with the Samsung Galaxy S II and the best, hands down, phone for games.
The phone itself is amazing but was rushed out of the gate with gimped software. Luckily we have great devs here that quickly came to the rescue. LG has also put out two test updates and preparing for a final release. We also have CM7.1 and Miui rooms, custom OC/UV kernels and the whole nine.
The G2x is a hackers delite right now but not at the point where it is ready for your grandmother. Once the final-stage update hits things will be smooth sailing for all.
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Copy that!
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Highly recommended. It's an awesome phone and I've always said that. Most problems you'll hear about are software related and as mentioned above there is great dev support for this phone. CM7 is very solid and fast and there are many other great roms too. If you're comfortable flashing basically anything other than stock, then you'll be very happy with this phone.
I have both the G2X and the Sensation. I would reccomend both phones and both phones do things better than the other. You have to make the decision yourself and if I were you, I would use both phones for a couple hours to figure out what you like the best.
Someone mentioned that the Sensation is boggy but its only boggy in the UI when running Sense. HTC did a terrible job optimizing it. I'm sure it will be updated soon though. When it comes to everything but the UI, the phone is actually faster than the G2X. It loads Google Maps faster, loads all apps faster, zooms and scrolls through web pages faster and takes pictures a lot faster due to continuous focus.
Most people don't know that the Sensation is faster than the G2X outside of the UI because they hanvnt had the time to actually sure down with it. They have only messed around with it in the store or watched videos.
When it comes to the UI, if you use ADW or Launcher Pro in place of Sense, the phone becomes as responsive if not more responsive than the G2X.
If you want, I can make a video for you backing all my statements up. Also, what kind of responses do you expect to get when you post this question in the respective phones forum? HAHA.
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jrwingate6 said:
I have both the G2X and the Sensation. I would reccomend both phones and both phones do things better than the other. You have to make the decision yourself and if I were you, I would use both phones for a couple hours to figure out what you like the best.
Someone mentioned that the Sensation is boggy but its only boggy in the UI when running Sense. HTC did a terrible job optimizing it. I'm sure it will be updated soon though. When it comes to everything but the UI, the phone is actually faster than the G2X. It loads Google Maps faster, loads all apps faster, zooms and scrolls through web pages faster and takes pictures a lot faster due to continuous focus.
Most people don't know that the Sensation is faster than the G2X outside of the UI because they hanvnt had the time to actually sure down with it. They have only messed around with it in the store or watched videos.
When it comes to the UI, if you use ADW or Launcher Pro in place of Sense, the phone becomes as responsive if not more responsive than the G2X.
If you want, I can make a video for you backing all my statements up. Also, what kind of responses do you expect to get when you post this question in the respective phones forum? HAHA.
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I'm gonna disagree. The sensation even with adw ex isn't faster than the g2x... Honestly I heard the browser with a special fix was also faster than the g2x browser.. Not true in my experience, the sensation was not much faster than my vibrant.
The sensation wasn't slow with adw, but you couldn't fly through the ui with as much ease and speed as the g2x. Ultimately that's what really brought me back to the g2x..
Just saying imo my 4 g2xs were faster than my 3 sensations even with adw ex. I will agree sometimes the sensation interacts with apps quicker, but straight ui browsing and must things the g2x wins. Also gaming, there was a huge difference in gaming from that extra resolution on the sensation...
No brainer, the g2x is all around better in my opinion.
jase33 said:
Its time to get a new phone. I haven't decide between the G2X and the sensation. So I ask if you would recommended the G2X. Please say why you would or would not.
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Yes, I would recommend. I have not had any problems with the phone. It's easy to handle and easy to root and update. If you buy a new one from T-Mobile and not off eBay or Craig's list you should avoid problems. I had no problems with mine, purchased June 9 from Amazon wireless.
bighulk666 said:
No. I've warned people away from it already who have asked me. I don't want to be the person who advised the phone and they get one that has all the issues we read.
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I guess ur the only one that wont recommend the g2x
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smashpunks said:
I'm gonna disagree. The sensation even with adw ex isn't faster than the g2x... Honestly I heard the browser with a special fix was also faster than the g2x browser.. Not true in my experience, the sensation was not much faster than my vibrant.
The sensation wasn't slow with adw, but you couldn't fly through the ui with as much ease and speed as the g2x. Ultimately that's what really brought me back to the g2x..
Just saying imo my 4 g2xs were faster than my 3 sensations even with adw ex. I will agree sometimes the sensation interacts with apps quicker, but straight ui browsing and must things the g2x wins. Also gaming, there was a huge difference in gaming from that extra resolution on the sensation...
No brainer, the g2x is all around better in my opinion.
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I've said it before in recent posts but out of the 4 Sensations I had, all of them have been different in speed. The first 2 I had were pretty slow but the last two were fast. Right after you gave up on your Sensation we found a fix that makes the UI a lot faster and more responsive. It was as simple as turning "Tell HTC off". When it comes to gaming, I can only speak for two games and both of those games look better and run better in the Sensation. They are Angry Birds and HomeRun Battle. A UI can only be so fast before it doesn't really matter anymore and both of the phones (once ADW is on the Sensation) are pretty much at that level. In my opinion it is more important to have a faster web browser and faster app interaction than it is to have a fast UI. On the G2X, Google maps takes a while to load when moving it around but on the Sensation it is instant. Also my contacts pictures take a couple se ones to load while scrolling on my G2X but there already there as you s roll on the Sensation. Finally, when scrolling through the market, the app pictures take a while to load on the G2X but are also instant on the Sensation.
Seriously though, I can't tell which UI is faster when running ADW on the Sensation. Maybe I have my settings different than what you did. You know I don't have any problems making a video to back up my statements. Would you like me to make another video for you showing the speed of my Sensation while using ADW?
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Yes. Especially now with MIUI giving it a sexy UI to match the hardware.
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If you want, I can make a video for you backing all my statements up. Also, what kind of responses do you expect to get when you post this question in the respective phones forum? HAHA.
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Hey if you can do that and don't mind i will really use that info. The g2x and Sensation will be the next phone i will get. They have what i want in a phone:
Dual core
4inch plus screens
and dev support(once the bootloader is unlocked sensation will have plenty)
My concerns are that it seems the g2x doesn't run smooth without rooting and flashing a custom rom? Now if that's the case then that's fine.
Also another question do any of these phones have NFC? which also makes me want a Nexus S(Not a deal breaker, but i always wanted to try out the NFC tags)
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and dev support(once the bootloader is unlocked sensation will have plenty)
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I hope you are right but I'm not so convinced. If there are devs out there who are holding off on buying a new phone until a monster with an unlocked bootloader comes along, I don't know that they will be getting the Sensation later this year when it finally gets unlocked. If they see the Hercules or Nexus 3 next to the 5 or 6 month old Sensation I think they will choose newer. It would be cool to see support for the Sensation, so I hope I'm wrong.
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player911 said:
The G2x is awesome if you have a little patience and don't mind doing a few tinkerings yourself to fix a bug or two.
The G2x is the best phone out on the fence with the Samsung Galaxy S II and the best, hands down, phone for games.
The phone itself is amazing but was rushed out of the gate with gimped software. Luckily we have great devs here that quickly came to the rescue. LG has also put out two test updates and preparing for a final release. We also have CM7.1 and Miui rooms, custom OC/UV kernels and the whole nine.
The G2x is a hackers delite right now but not at the point where it is ready for your grandmother. Once the final-stage update hits things will be smooth sailing for all.
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Concur
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Suprah said:
I guess ur the only one that wont recommend the g2x
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Someone had to. I like my phone, lucky enough to get a great one on launch day. The GPS really pisses me off about it.
People I know with Android devices never heard of rooting or loading custom roms. The phone almost requires you to do so to work properly; thus, I don't recommend it for the average user.
bighulk666 said:
Someone had to. I like my phone, lucky enough to get a great one on launch day. The GPS really pisses me off about it.
People I know with Android devices never heard of rooting or loading custom roms. The phone almost requires you to do so to work properly; thus, I don't recommend it for the average user.
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Then again, "average user" probably isn't browsing XDA for advice.
My g2x is great it will hold me over until they release project kal-el devices
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I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
the 4s is not bad and the only thing i think apple products have is the fact that they get all thier needed updates always. The 4s had the same ios as the 3gs. I really wish Google would force this with our phones too!
I really want to see how much more power is inside this G2x but because we dont have ICS yet, I will have to wait!
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the 4s is not bad and the only thing i think apple products have is the fact that they get all thier needed updates always. The 4s had the same ios as the 3gs. I really wish Google would force this with our phones too!
I really want to see how much more power is inside this G2x but because we dont have ICS yet, I will have to wait!
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the reason for google not having updates for every single android phone while apple does is simple:
Apple only has to worry about a handful of unique phone models while android has many more, each with different hardware which makes writing firmware updates difficult since they have to be tailored to way too many phone models.
therefore, in the android world it's easier for companies to make money by releasing a new android phone rather than updating old ones.
G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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95Z28 said:
G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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Well in all fairness, TMO's SGSII is terrible compared to the Exynos versions. The S3 processor in that is probably the weakest out of all of the dual cores. But the G2x doesn't even hold a candle to the real SGSII's which have the Exynos processor and the all powerful Mali-400 GPU.
With that said... I still love my G2x.
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the reason for google not having updates for every single android phone while apple does is simple:
Apple only has to worry about a handful of unique phone models while android has many more, each with different hardware which makes writing firmware updates difficult since they have to be tailored to way too many phone models.
therefore, in the android world it's easier for companies to make money by releasing a new android phone rather than updating old ones.
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Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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jetbruceli said:
Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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you basically repeated what i said...
you're right its no excuse but android depends on the developer community due to its very nature that it is open source. Also since phone companies are able to make more money by marketing new phones, they do that instead
Longevite said:
I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
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What program do you use to overclock and what are your settings I can't find the settings for overclock apps on g2x
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I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
jetbruceli said:
Well still, there are a lot of different phones and hardware but that's no excuse to keep our systems behind the curb. They release the source and should require companies to enforce updates.
Apple has more control of its hardware and software.
Like I said they do a great job keeping their stuff up to date. Even the older 3gs.
I love my g2x just tired of waiting for an update and using in official roms that all seem to have issues.
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Enforce updates are definitely the key words. I'm surprised no one has opened lawsuits about phones with security flaws not being patched by the carrier/manufacturer, etc. I hope in the future the carriers and manufacturers will take updates a little more seriously, or maybe the pure android and manufacturers' code can be updated independently of each other. You may say I'm a dreamer...
95Z28 said:
G2X is king of performance. Of course it will beat iphone 4s, maybe iphone 5 will finally catch up.
My G2X beats my buddys tmobile sgs2 in everything except internet speeds. In gaming is where the difference is most noticeable, but even in simply scrolling through pages my G2X is the smoothest phone I've ever played with (and I play with about every new high end tmobile phone, and anything Best Buy puts out a live model of).
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I disagree here, the tegra 2 is at the bottom of dual core phones when it comes to memory bandwidth with only 2.4GB/s. The S3, isn't much higher above it at 2.7GB/s. Both of those SOC's are way behind the likes of the Omap 4460, Exynos 4210, and the A5 which all have 6.4GB/s. So I'd hardly call anything with a tegra 2 powering it the king of performance.
asuradaMobile said:
I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
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smart guy
Just busted out the g2x while trying to raise funds for galaxy nexus, I do miss this phone. G2X is smooth and faster than the sensation I just sold.
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What program do you use to overclock and what are your settings I can't find the settings for overclock apps on g2x
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
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I got my hand on Sprint Iphone 4s, and tried couple of things out, and G2x faster in most of web browsing, (Iphone 4s favor in nfl.com, apple.com, buy.com...). Only game I tested is Angry Birds, and G2x a few sec ahead. Why people overrated Retina display when the color is not as good as IPS? Also with the resolution that high make some game have blury looking, but when browsing internet the text look awesome, unbeatable.
Really not fare to compare an overclocked phone with stock phone, oh well, just for fun and made up a reason not to upgrade a new phone
G2x @ 1.4Ghz, Nightly 201, Faux CM 0.4.4, Opera is the main browser use for test.
Iphone 4s, stock browser (Safari), FW 5.0.0.
All test over wifi.
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The Retina Display in the iPhone 4/4s uses IPS technology, the iPod Touch 4G is the only one that doesn't use IPS.
And I completely disagree, the A5 is much better than the Tegra 2, processor wise they are almost identical (note: Tegra 2 does not support NEON), but GPU wise it's really no comparison, I still like the G2x better though.
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
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im sorry i should have put it better do you guys use SetCPU or Tegrak but im using SetCPU I was just wondering if I overclock it to 1.5 should I change the voltage and if so to what settings.
asuradaMobile said:
I just had a chance to play with iphone 4s then sold it for more money and bought a used G2X. Apple stuff is defintely better there is no way around it but its definitively not as cost effective when comparing to g2x
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Lets put it this way... I wouldn't make the G2X an ambassador for Android phones. I had an iPhone4 but had to get rid of it when I changed carriers because Wind Mobile doesn't support any of the frequency's that the iPhone4 supports. The iPhone4 (or now the 4S) both kill the G2X! even though the 4 is not dual core. The retina display kills all of the Android phones that i have seen with its superior clarity. Only phone that I havent tested is the Galaxy Nexus, Can someone confirm if retina display is better or Galaxy Nexsus screen?.
If u try zooming in on a picture like X5 the iPhone4 will keep the picture crystal clean. U even start noticing hairs on ppls bodies lol. G2X screen on the other had gets blurry & blocky almost instantly.
As for web browsing on 3G... Iphone4 opens larger web pages (pages with ots of pictures or galleries for example) way faster than the G2X, but on wifi both phones are fast. I would love to be able to hack an iPhone 4 & install ICS on it.
Just sharing my experiences of both phones w u guys
Dave778 said:
Lets put it this way... I wouldn't make the G2X an ambassador for Android phones. I had an iPhone4 but had to get rid of it when I changed carriers because Wind Mobile doesn't support any of the frequency's that the iPhone4 supports. The iPhone4 (or now the 4S) both kill the G2X! even though the 4 is not dual core. The retina display kills all of the Android phones that i have seen with its superior clarity. Only phone that I havent tested is the Galaxy Nexus, Can someone confirm if retina display is better or Galaxy Nexsus screen?.
If u try zooming in on a picture like X5 the iPhone4 will keep the picture crystal clean. U even start noticing hairs on ppls bodies lol. G2X screen on the other had gets blurry & blocky almost instantly.
As for web browsing on 3G... Iphone4 opens larger web pages (pages with ots of pictures or galleries for example) way faster than the G2X, but on wifi both phones are fast. I would love to be able to hack an iPhone 4 & install ICS on it.
Just sharing my experiences of both phones w u guys
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Try to run Angry Birds on Iphone 4/4s and see how "clear" it look, I didn't mean retina display is bad, I just saying some games don't support that high res, and make the game look blurry, but Infinity Blade look bad ass on Retina, I never seen any game on mobile look that good.
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using Set CPU. you can find it for free in xda.
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What kernel are you using? I have SetCPU but the CM7 kernel doesn't support overclocking.
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What kernel are you using? I have SetCPU but the CM7 kernel doesn't support overclocking.
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Using Faux Kernel, you can download the lastest verson at rootzwiki
Is scrolling the Web or.facebook or.google play as smooth as the gs2.
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My GS2 wasn't smooth at all...One X is almost iPhone-esque.
Did you have the skyrocket or the original because the exynos is smoother the iPhone
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Did you have the skyrocket or the original because the exynos is smoother the iPhone
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I had the Exynos...international unlocked version of the GS2. If you think it is smoother than the iPhone then you've never used an iPhone. That's not to say the iPhone is better b/c it's not even close. But if we're just talking about smoothness of the OS and the apps then there isn't an Android device on the planet that can compare to iOS...it's just the way the two OS's are built.
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Did you have the skyrocket or the original because the exynos is smoother the iPhone
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You are delusional.
You really can't build an android phone that's going to beat the smoothness of an OS built specifically for the hardware and vice versa (in regards to iPhone.)
That being said, from the GS2's I've messed around with, the HTC one X is a bit smoother with scrolling etc.
I will say that sense isn't flawlessly smooth, though. When the bootloader is unlocked and the rom floodgates open, I have no doubt in my mind that it will surpass most anything on the android market in fluidity. It's a powerful, powerful phone.
OneX is just as smooth as the GSII out of the box. Enabling 2D hardware acceleration will help even more.
The issue is that unlick phones like the iPhones and new Windows phones, the UI is CPU rendered instead of GPU...and for some stupid reason it doesn't have a higher priority level then other apps. This means that backgroud apps will still be running behind the UI, and the CPU won't always process the UI's requests first. Enabling the phone to use GPU rendering for 2D stuff like the UI instead of just fancy 3D graphics will make it smooth as glass...but will most likely have a negative effect on the battery life.
Samsungs stock browser on the galaxy s ii (gingerbread) was the smoothest browsing I've ever experienced. Smoother than the iPhone I think. Use any other browser, including chrome, and you're in lag country.
the gs2 browser is the smoothest I have ever used had a iPad 2 and new iPhone not as smooth
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I have both, the One X and SGS2 on ATT. I have the SGS2 rooted and running the Shostock rom. The SGS2 is absolutely more smoother in every aspect on that rom. I'm sure the One X will equal it and possibly surpass it (not sure how much better it can get than the SGS2) with custom roms.
my GSII with AOKP + siyah seems smoother than the one x. could just be my phone, but it seems to stutter. it'll scroll smoothly and then just stutter for a second... so damn annoying.
Yeah, I thought my one x was smooth, then I picked up my 4S again after a couple of days
Oh, well. At least the 720p screen does some good for movies just run out of storage space, fast
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I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and before that a GS2 (E4GT) and can honestly say that the One X is noticeably smoother than the GS2 and just as smooth as the iPhone in *most* instances. The One X is easily the smoothest Android phone I have ever used.
And yeah, anybody who says the GS2 is as smooth as the iPhone is on crack. It is definitely very smooth but iPhone smooth it is not.
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I would say that its just as smooth. Given the fact that it has to push a 720p screen (vs wvga on sgs2) its really impressive. GPU acceleration helps a lot as well thanks to ICS which gave a huge advantage to the GS2 compared to other phones back then due to the powerful gpu and low res screen to push when it comes to smoothness
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So uh... Does anyone else have that stutter when scrolling? If yes then its normal and probably fixable with a custom kernel. If no then I don't know, already replaced the phone... Don't want to do it again.
So I think it may help to define "Smooth" since it's used so sparingly in this thread. It seems to ambiguously refer to hopping between home screens, transitions and app drawer launching. Is there anything else you guys are adding in for the loose term of "smooth" that maybe we could put in a direct comparison amongst the likes of the S2, HOX and Iphone 4s?
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Samsungs stock browser on the galaxy s ii (gingerbread) was the smoothest browsing I've ever experienced. Smoother than the iPhone I think. Use any other browser, including chrome, and you're in lag country.
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Absolutely. The Galaxy S 2 ( exynos version) Browser IS smoother than the iPhone browser that's a fact. Nothing compare to it. Again we're talking about the browser not the entire OS.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and before that a GS2 (E4GT) and can honestly say that the One X is noticeably smoother than the GS2 and just as smooth as the iPhone in *most* instances. The One X is easily the smoothest Android phone I have ever used.
And yeah, anybody who says the GS2 is as smooth as the iPhone is on crack. It is definitely very smooth but iPhone smooth it is not.
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I'm a 100% sure that the one x cannot beat the SGS2 browser smoothness. No freaking way.
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I had the Exynos...international unlocked version of the GS2. If you think it is smoother than the iPhone then you've never used an iPhone. That's not to say the iPhone is better b/c it's not even close. But if we're just talking about smoothness of the OS and the apps then there isn't an Android device on the planet that can compare to iOS...it's just the way the two OS's are built.
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Yep. I used to use iPhone and nothing I've touched since then has been close in terms of seamlessness of touch response and smoothness of OS. That said, this HOX and ICS are about as close as you can get in terms of seamless movements. I personally am infatuated with this phone. I can't put mine down...
I see cheap Chinese android phones with single core CPU not any better than nexus, 512mb ram and a really weak GPU having better gaming performance than the nexus S. We have such weird stuttering in a lot of games that is not found with other 1Ghz phones. On the other hand nexus S seems to give great framerates but just the performance is so inconsistent.
So what exactly is wrong? Does nexus S have poor ram speed or flash memory speed? If that is the case then I wonder why Google cheaped out as nexus S was a very expensive phone at launch!!
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I see cheap Chinese android phones with single core CPU not any better than nexus, 512mb ram and a really weak GPU having better gaming performance than the nexus S. We have such weird stuttering in a lot of games that is not found with other 1Ghz phones. On the other hand nexus S seems to give great framerates but just the performance is so inconsistent.
So what exactly is wrong? Does nexus S have poor ram speed or flash memory speed? If that is the case then I wonder why Google cheaped out as nexus S was a very expensive phone at launch!!
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yeah its strange. the performance on this phone is very inconsistent. Cant really understand why the messaging app has some microlag in the opening animation for example. Its a really simple animation, it should not have microlag... if i set the animation to "ics animation" on nova launcher, animations do not have microlag anymore when opening apps. It seems that the animations and overall performance on JB is somehow broken
Another example is the app ANY.DO...on my girlfriends phone(galaxy s2), upon opening any.do, when the list of notes is displayed the animations are fluid. On my Nexus S, when the list of notes is displayed it is not fluid at all. I know the S2 is much more powerfull but still, it is just a simple list of notes loading and it should be as fluid as the S2 i think...
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yeah its strange. the performance on this phone is very inconsistent. Cant really understand why the messaging app has some microlag in the opening animation for example. Its a really simple animation, it should not have microlag... if i set the animation to "ics animation" on nova launcher, animations do not have microlag anymore when opening apps. It seems that the animations and overall performance on JB is somehow broken
Another example is the app ANY.DO...on my girlfriends phone(galaxy s2), upon opening any.do, when the list of notes is displayed the animations are fluid. On my Nexus S, when the list of notes is displayed it is not fluid at all. I know the S2 is much more powerfull but still, it is just a simple list of notes loading and it should be as fluid as the S2 i think...
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A friend told me that the galaxy S and nexus S have slow internal memory even by 2010 standards which is really pathetic since Samsung is the biggest manufacturer of flash memory.
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Gambler_3 said:
A friend told me that the galaxy S and nexus S have slow internal memory even by 2010 standards which is really pathetic since Samsung is the biggest manufacturer of flash memory.
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My confusion comes from the fact that I have both a Galaxy S and a Nexus S and I find that the Galaxy is noticeably snappier and less laggy than the Nexus regardless of ROM. I was under the impression they largely have the same basic hardware. Go figure. I would prefer to use the Nexus because I make use of the camera flash every now and again, but the lag is just enough to aggravate me.
My Nexus ran circles around my uncles and mother in laws Galaxy S when it was configured as I had it below. And that was with a soon-to-be-fatal memory error. I had a bunch of weird performance problems with certain kernels, and spent an unusual amount of time getting it set up to be snappy with decent battery life, but eventually found it with the combo in my sig. Then 2 weeks later it died because of a bug in CWM Touch v6 :crying:
Jellybean animations are optimized more for the newer dual and quad core phones, although it is supported on the Nexus there is no way to make it as smooth IMO. Google has been doing this "Butter Project" for awhile now, which is basically it's name for the efforts they have placed on making Android run smoothly via the screen and touch interface. Program to program performance relies on the person writing the app.
Honestly this thing is a marvel. Any other phone I had that is 2 years or more older was nowhere near as relevant as this thing still is. It is still my favorite phone out, because of form factor. I feel they are getting too big for my tastes. Really wish they would drop another Nexus that is still this same size, with at least a snappy dual core and a couple gigs of RAM. Let's get serious, this thing is super out-dated but still has every feature you could ever want, it can't stay fast forever while cramming all this crap into it.
Want it fast? Put Gingerbread on it. I had it on mine for awhile, and it was blazing fast. Awesome if you only use it for a phone and light browsing, sucks if you use a lot of random apps because of compatibility issues though
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Honestly this thing is a marvel. Any other phone I had that is 2 years or more older was nowhere near as relevant as this thing still is. It is still my favorite phone out, because of form factor. I feel they are getting too big for my tastes. Really wish they would drop another Nexus that is still this same size, with at least a snappy dual core and a couple gigs of RAM. Let's get serious, this thing is super out-dated but still has every feature you could ever want, it can't stay fast forever while cramming all this crap into it.
Want it fast? Put Gingerbread on it. I had it on mine for awhile, and it was blazing fast. Awesome if you only use it for a phone and light browsing, sucks if you use a lot of random apps because of compatibility issues though
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I agree with this statement entirely. Form factor is going from phone to tablet and I don't like it. NS to me, has the best size and form. Good size of screen, holdable and fit nice in the pocket. Sadly, good bye are the days of 'phone-phones'.