Smartphones with radio fm without headphones as antenna? - General Questions and Answers

hi,
will we ever see our devices with radio fm without the need of plugging in the headphones?
i want to listen radio through bluetooth...

rothariger said:
hi,
will we ever see our devices with radio fm without the need of plugging in the headphones?
i want to listen radio through bluetooth...
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YES its posible just install any internet radio application

kitomi98 said:
YES its posible just install any internet radio application
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ha ha ha!!!!!!!!! I have only seen the SE W8 with the INDIAN packaging get a external jack for listening to radios.

Then, use intenet radio.

annasu said:
Actually, I misspoke. I was thinking of digital radio, which many stations are now supporting and is gaining some popularity (as far as broadcast radio goes) in the US.
FM radio is a dying breed in the US, not just because of MP3, but because FM stations have been hijacked by corporate radio (i.e. Clear Channel) which limits stations to tightly playlist controlled "formats" - Emetic Easy Listening, Soporific Soft Rock, Headache Metal, Un-hip Hip-Hop, The-Same-30-Songs-You-Heared-3000-Times Classic Rock...
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yes i thought that...

you could use Tune-in Radio form market. Radio inet online without antena

If you want to listen to FM radio, you need an external antenna I think

You know, its funny, but i had a $99 LG prime, prepaid phone from att. It has an fm radio and doesn't need the head phones as an antenna. So it is possible. I don't know why all phones don't have it..... that was the only good feature about the phone, and its reception was awesome.

chrism.brunner said:
You know, its funny, but i had a $99 LG prime, prepaid phone from att. It has an fm radio and doesn't need the head phones as an antenna. So it is possible. I don't know why all phones don't have it..... that was the only good feature about the phone, and its reception was awesome.
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Because it's ineffective. Having an antenna equals more signal strength in radio. If you live in middle of a city, then I would not think that we need an antenna.

Looks like the 20 last years of my life the technology did great things but unfortunately the IQ of ppl drop dramatically.
The only thing that mobile phone companys should do is to create cellphones with build in antenas of the best quality materials and make those antenas able to extend. ffs. U can do it easy and ppl will buy easier.

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FM frequency transmitting software

Its just an idea. I dont know if it is possible with kaiser or not. But I have feeling that it might be possible.
Is it possible to make a software that can transmit a song using kaiser on FM frequency just like those external FM transmitters for car? I think it is possible coz Kaiser already have the radio wave transmitting device inside it since GSM network works on radio frequency. But I might be wrong. So just a question for those genius minds here at XDA
Life would be so easy if this is possible. You go into the car start a song on your kaiser and bingo!! it is connected to your car's music system without any hassle of wires.
Just an idea,
Regards
dude u need fm transmitter - something like this http://www.solware.co.uk/fm-transmitter/
it is a hardware issue not software!!
this thread should be in kaiser general or at most kaiser software
hardik119 said:
Its just an idea. I dont know if it is possible with kaiser or not. But I have feeling that it might be possible.
Is it possible to make a software that can transmit a song using kaiser on FM frequency just like those external FM transmitters for car? I think it is possible coz Kaiser already have the radio wave transmitting device inside it since GSM network works on radio frequency. But I might be wrong. So just a question for those genius minds here at XDA
Life would be so easy if this is possible. You go into the car start a song on your kaiser and bingo!! it is connected to your car's music system without any hassle of wires.
Just an idea,
Regards
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Man... you are completely wrong. Kaiser (like any other cell phone) have radio for communicating with GSM / UMTS baseband stations, BUT. But that radio operates on ABSOLUTELY different frequency! FM radio works on 89-108 MHz, GSM works on 800/900MHz - 1800/1900MHz and UMTS even higher! Despite of this great frequency difference it operates with different modulation, different width of channel and especially it operates in digital mode (instead analog as in case of FM radio).
So... it would be nice, right, but it is absolutelly impossible. It is possible as you would try to beam a light with microwave oven (light is electromagnetic radiation and microwave oven produces that, right?)... just forget it
Motorola T505 Bluetooth to FM
Check this out....
MOTOROKR™ T505 Bluetooth® In-Car Speakerphone with Digital FM TransmitterMOTOROKR™ T505 Bluetooth® In-Car Speakerphone with Digital FM Transmitter
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/t505/
Got ya!! It was just a thought you know. and good example of microwave oven.
@Jahrami & Xboomer55
I know about those hardwares but I was talking something different. Probably I wrote it confusing so you couldn't understand my point. But anyways it is not possible. Wish it was possible. You can't imagine how easier life would be with that thing possible.
Andy_S said:
Man... you are completely wrong. Kaiser (like any other cell phone) have radio for communicating with GSM / UMTS baseband stations, BUT. But that radio operates on ABSOLUTELY different frequency! FM radio works on 89-108 MHz, GSM works on 800/900MHz - 1800/1900MHz and UMTS even higher! Despite of this great frequency difference it operates with different modulation, different width of channel and especially it operates in digital mode (instead analog as in case of FM radio).
So... it would be nice, right, but it is absolutelly impossible. It is possible as you would try to beam a light with microwave oven (light is electromagnetic radiation and microwave oven produces that, right?)... just forget it
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I dont believe it is absolutely impossible, just highly unlikely. It has to do with whether or not there is an oscillator in the phone capable of creating something as low as 88MHz. I have no doubt the phone could do something as simple as fm modulation, am modulation would be even easier.
we all wish that but we also know its impossible
but if four of us (kaiser owner) met we can build a baby microwave rom our phones check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg_dyD0Nsjw
hardik119 said:
Wish it was possible. You can't imagine how easier life would be with that thing possible.
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Nokia has this feature?
I think the newer Nokia phones have this FM transmitter capability. Although it's really just another "feature" to hammer the already p¡ss-poor battery life on Nokias!
Don't worry... I won't be heading back to Nokialand for this. The N80 was enough to send me to Windows Mobile for the forseeable future.
mastaworm said:
It has to do with whether or not there is an oscillator in the phone capable of creating something as low as 88MHz.
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There are baseband filters to cutout noise and harmonics to maximize phone output and minimize those bad harmonics (ever heard about SAR? ) so... NO is the simpliest answer. The best choice is to either buy that motorola gadget / Car Radio with bluetooth receiver, or build your own car audio system (i am planning to do so)

Why flash radios?

What is the purpose of flashing a different radio?
Do radios help wifi signal strength?
Anybody???
#1: Better reception, less battery consumption, better GPRS/3G connection quality... lotsa reasons
#2: Nope, don't think so
well whats a good radio for att fuze?
I want to try the xperia radio but I haven't heard back from olipro. wish I had a way of donating to him but I'm only 14
sammypwns said:
I want to try the xperia radio but I haven't heard back from olipro. wish I had a way of donating to him but I'm only 14
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Google Checkout or Paypal accept debit cards.
I'm sure as you've got a Touch Pro you could afford the £15 and use your parents card to pay and then give them the money.
The radios can affect WiFi signal strength, too. But IMO it was definitely worth it flash the Blackstone radio which gave me much better battery life. I'm testing the Xperia radio now.
Hey all can a radio flash improve or strenghten ear speaker amplification and overall sound quailty through the ear speaker?
tia
bump, anyone?
SportsFans said:
Hey all can a radio flash improve or strenghten ear speaker amplification and overall sound quailty through the ear speaker?
tia
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A radio can improve (or degrade) the sound quality during a phone call or the bluetooth quality f.e. But as far as I know not the overall sound output.

Hows the FM Radio?

Well my pair of fuzes should be arriving on Monday or Tuesday so I'm beginning to wonder about some of the other hardware parts. I keep reading that the FM Radio uses the headset as an Antenna. I have a Hermes and the included abysmal headset that came with that, and I have so little intention of using the one that I'm about to get it might make small children cry, so heres the question of the day:
Does the FM Radio work acceptably without the headset? If not, does it work with an adapter and *REAL* headphones?
Not a deal breaker either way, but it would be cool to know.
Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!
gezzy said:
Hi, I've a Touch Pro on Vodafone UK flashed with ROMeOS² Italian Rom (just to let you know ). I'm using on it the headset controller that i had with my previous phone, an O2 Stellar (Tytn2) and a Sennheiser CX300. Absolutely no problem, and the sound looking great!
Now on your other questions.FM Radio is not working without headset, so you have to put them in the plug, and then FM Radio program will start. Otherwise, if for you is a problem having headset inserted in the phone, you can buy an headset controller (on ebay have a really low price!).
About the headset quality, I had before of Touch Pro, a tytn and a tytn2, and can confirm that the quality is the same, so I never used those!
PS: sorry for my english, I hope you undertand what I'm saying!
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Thanks alot! that actually answers everything.
Dont worry, I've read my fair share of very broken english, you're miles ahead of many people.
I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.
kgbeezr1 said:
I've had trouble getting stations in clearly using a variety of headphones, but it does work.
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I live fairly close to New York City, so this may in fact be a YMMV. How far off are most of your radio stations?
better then the diamonds radio
Radio program works great for me. It just depends on what kind of area you are in like the poster said a few above me with buildings in NYC. Headphones are ok that I got with my Hermes.
The other route to take of course is streaming radio but that will probably take more battery life than FM.
i DL the one for the fuse and my headset doesnt work as an antenna..... i wonder if i used another phone headset if i could pick up any other radio stations????
is there a cab file for the fm radio?
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is there a cab file for the fm radio?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=116132&d=1222374257
I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat
It works great, you need a adapter for your headphone though. It comes with the phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykBhbiOg1mY
Here's how it look, my fuze
Patrick Reily said:
I recently was passing by Phoenix AZ and picked up an FM station when I was about 150 miles away and held it until I was 150 mile past Phoenix. Maybe the conditions were just perfect, maybe my headphones are a very effective antenna but whatever the reason, I was impressed with the performance.
Pat
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same thing here. i live on the outer edge of houston and can barely get my 2 favorite stations with my car but with my fuze its loud and clear full signal. ive been thinking of ways of hooking my phone into my car just for fm radio. poor iphone users dont know what they are missing.
Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.
dieKatze88 said:
Got my Fuze, Loving the hell out of this thing but the FM Radio isnt quite what I had hoped. Its not awful, its just not great either. Oh well.
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whats wrong with it? fm radio isnt the most expansive tool. i use musicid with it and make lists of music i want to download. ^_^
gezzy said:
...FM Radio is not working without headset...
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Strictly speaking that's not true - mine works fine on 'speaker mode' with just one of these in it.
I use some retractable ear buds (also from ebay) & it works fine. I get a good signal on most UK stations of note.
I also stream world radio from the links posted here here, which is fine for talk radio even at GPRS "2 bar" speeds using Windows Media Player and in comparison of course, the FM player is much better.

FM Radio tuner NextRadio (snapdragon)

they claim the snapdragon version of the note 20 ultra has FM radio, but NextRadio is dead and doesn't want to work on the phone even tho it comes preinstalled bloatware. Ive tried versions 3.xx/4.xx/5.xx ( i get frozen screen)/ and 6.xx, the closest i can get is one of the first builds of version 6 will let me get around the no network error or not supported screen but shows nothing tuner related,almost like there is no FM hardware enabled. I am using the samsung/akg provided usb wired headset and a cheap amazon throw away set just to be sure.
Has anyone gotten the FM tuner to work on this device?
Same on my note , no FM radio .
Sent from my Samsung SM-N960U1 using XDA Labs
It needs more than just the radio to make it work. The other stuff needed has not been present since Samsung(OEM's in general) moved away from headphone jacks. Also this requires testing as well as licensing(pay Qualcomm for licensing, and then governmental body for testing).
Tidbits said:
It needs more than just the radio to make it work. The other stuff needed has not been present since Samsung(OEM's in general) moved away from headphone jacks. Also this requires testing as well as licensing(pay Qualcomm for licensing, and then governmental body for testing).
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ive been out of the loop with this stuff for awhile, did Samsung disable the FM (software sided?) or did Qualcomm (hardware sided?)? Im kinda curious if a new developed app could get it to work. or is there a way to see what hardware is present or disabled?
outlawbiker said:
ive been out of the loop with this stuff for awhile, did Samsung disable the FM (software sided?) or did Qualcomm (hardware sided?)? Im kinda curious if a new developed app could get it to work. or is there a way to see what hardware is present or disabled?
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It's Samsung and hardware. If you don't connect the radio then it'll never work. Doesn't matter if the radio is within the chip. You also need an antenna which isn't present internally. Also in the US there is not Note 20 with testing done for the fm radio.
It's safe to assume Samsung didn't pay licensing, didn't connect the com for the radio with an antenna component connected, and didn't have FCC test the feature.
This is driving me nuts. I researched before this Note 20 Ultra 512GB came out and read that it will have the FM radio but only in the Snapdragon version which is what I have here in the US. I did a trade in of my Note 8 which worked fine with the FM radio. I even bought an adapter for the charge port for the wired headphones. Now I've lost the Note 8 with radio functionality to a trade in. I'm so mad. I used the radio to tune in at conventions to a local unused station that the convention used so I can listen without distraction and record the talks with voice recorder for later listening, it recorded the radio station directly. This was very important to me. Someone from SAMSUNG chat help said there is no FM chip in the US models. The NextRadio app says can't access the FM function and to tell my carrier I want access to it.
What is the deal? Does it have FM or not? If so, does Verizon need to activate it? I just can't seem to find a definitive answer and cannot find a code that works to find the secret menu for this phone via the phone app. Please someone help.
pinkBEAT said:
This is driving me nuts. I researched before this Note 20 Ultra 512GB came out and read that it will have the FM radio but only in the Snapdragon version which is what I have here in the US. I did a trade in of my Note 8 which worked fine with the FM radio. I even bought an adapter for the charge port for the wired headphones. Now I've lost the Note 8 with radio functionality to a trade in. I'm so mad. I used the radio to tune in at conventions to a local unused station that the convention used so I can listen without distraction and record the talks with voice recorder for later listening, it recorded the radio station directly. This was very important to me. Someone from SAMSUNG chat help said there is no FM chip in the US models. The NextRadio app says can't access the FM function and to tell my carrier I want access to it.
What is the deal? Does it have FM or not? If so, does Verizon need to activate it? I just can't seem to find a definitive answer and cannot find a code that works to find the secret menu for this phone via the phone app. Please someone help.
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Sorry man, it doesn't look like it is the case. I went through this with my unlocked Note 10+. I was even hoping that the T-Mobile version would have FM because the previous CEO made it a mandate for phones on the T-Mobile network but they must have quietly let that one go once the headphone jack was gone. My S10+ has a connected FM Radio but not my A71 5g.
Thanks for answering. I just wanted to be sure as I don't always trust support people. Half the time, by the time I reluctanly call or chat support for anything it's because I just can't find the answer and it's something beyond what these "tech support" people have scripted for them. They just wind up frustrating me more.
After posting this I tested the adapter for the headphones in my mother's Note 8 with NextRadio. No sound with NextRadio. Only when plugged directly in to the 3.5mm jack. So, even if there was FM on the Note 20 Ultra, the charging port headphone adapter theory won't work.
Tempted to write the FCC to get this mandatory but will probably be a waste of time. I'll just get an mp3 player with FM radio that will record from the radio and have to carry another device around on those occasions (at least a clipon or armband). Most of the ones on Amazon seem to be Chinese made and I am concerned about the quality and reliability. We will see.
Thanks again.

Question Which UIS7862 unit should I buy?

Im looking to get a new head unit for my car (Corsa D 1.2 2009), and was planning on getting the Teyes CC3. I then found out through this forum and elsewhere that its essentially just being resold? I then found other units like the Mekede M6 Pro, etc. Im not sure which one to get, does anyone have any suggestions? Or information that can help me decide between all of the UIS7862 out there?
Im leaning towards the Teyes even if it is slightly more expensive, as ive heard good things about their support and firmware updates.
But ive seen units for £180 (6+128gb) with better spec than the teyes at £250 (3+32gb)!
I mainly want good audio (so a good DSP and AMP chip), and i want polished looking software and not having to deal with the android stock menus as much.
For someone in the UK, what are peoples suggestions?
Thanks
Gershy13
Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
surfer63 said:
Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
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Thanks,
Would you be able to tell me what the main differences between going with teyes and their closed apps (some examples of why theyre worse) compared to something that isnt locked down? Like mekede or anything else.
Another one i found is OSSURET? I was thinking of the S8
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004870713836.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.27a42034V35IGh&algo_pvid=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c&algo_exp_id=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000030828861416%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21GBP%21168.28%2184.14%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a187b16722620012128392e6e8f%2112000030828861416%21sea&curPageLogUid=f8YkC5oOv6ja
It seems to have a slightly higher clocked processor too. And for the same price as the mekede i can get maxed storage and ram. Thoughts?
Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
Gaugamela said:
Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
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Curious as to why? But no never planning on using the radio. (Spotify only)
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
Gaugamela said:
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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Ahh okay thanks. That's fine I don't mind using WiFi for internet sharing. Or even usb if it's supported.
And yeah no plans to use the radio so we're good.
Gaugamela said:
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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are you sure about that, have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nd-sc9853i-fyt-devices.4387965/#post-86251871
Also, the BLuetooth on these units, comparatively, is very good, with proper BLE support via dual Bluetooth to support things like radar detectors (Valentine One.)
marchnz said:
are you sure about that, have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nd-sc9853i-fyt-devices.4387965/#post-86251871
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Yes, I am sure. Go over the thread and Kotix explains it why he can't fix AF.
He made a work around for an user to easily switch between saved frequencies of the same radio station. But this is manual switching that an user needs to do by himself, not automated. This is not optimal when you're driving.
Gaugamela said:
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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My Bluetooth connects immediately every time I enter the car.
I also find FM radio to be excellent using NavRadio+
AF isn't a deal breaker for me. I only have 1 station that jumps between frequencies occasionally (BBC Radio 2) and Kotix workaround is intuitive and easy to use.
The fact that it doesn't affect doesn't mean the issue isn't there.
Bluetooth works well. Bluetooth 2 doesn't. There's the simple work around of automating an wifi hot spot when your phone connects to Bluetooth.
It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
Battoussai said:
It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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Same here - second phone never connects automatically. Really annoys me because we are two daily users of the car :/
Yeah, I know your pain lol. I suppose the manufacter would need to invest on a better bluetooth chip for two phones to work. I come from a Pioneer with bluetooth from 2008 and it already allowed to pair 2 distint phones at the SAME time!!! And it still works.
Battoussai said:
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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A recent thread addressed this and a reseller replied with a config.txt that seemingly results in the Bluetooth trying the last phone used and failing that trying the next phone in the list.
Does Bluetooth only reconnect to the last device used?
My unit allowed me to pair multiple phones (my wife and daughter also drive) but the Bluetooth system would only reconnect to the last phone used. So if I drove the car last, and then my wife drives, it won't connect to her phone without manually...
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I can see a few lines that might be relevant but I've no idea what the secret sauce is to change the behaviour.
Backup your current config.txt and give a few of them a try if you're confident.
Lines I can see that "might" relate to Bluetooth pairing...
ro.build.go_lasttop=true
sys.fyt.bluetooth_show_voice=true
persist.btpair.ssp=1
persist.fyt.enablebtvoice=true
persist.btautoconnect.count=3
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Hum... thats interesting stuff. Thanks. I'll do a little more digging and give it a try if I discard the chance of bricking something.
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