FM Radio tuner NextRadio (snapdragon) - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

they claim the snapdragon version of the note 20 ultra has FM radio, but NextRadio is dead and doesn't want to work on the phone even tho it comes preinstalled bloatware. Ive tried versions 3.xx/4.xx/5.xx ( i get frozen screen)/ and 6.xx, the closest i can get is one of the first builds of version 6 will let me get around the no network error or not supported screen but shows nothing tuner related,almost like there is no FM hardware enabled. I am using the samsung/akg provided usb wired headset and a cheap amazon throw away set just to be sure.
Has anyone gotten the FM tuner to work on this device?

Same on my note , no FM radio .
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It needs more than just the radio to make it work. The other stuff needed has not been present since Samsung(OEM's in general) moved away from headphone jacks. Also this requires testing as well as licensing(pay Qualcomm for licensing, and then governmental body for testing).

Tidbits said:
It needs more than just the radio to make it work. The other stuff needed has not been present since Samsung(OEM's in general) moved away from headphone jacks. Also this requires testing as well as licensing(pay Qualcomm for licensing, and then governmental body for testing).
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ive been out of the loop with this stuff for awhile, did Samsung disable the FM (software sided?) or did Qualcomm (hardware sided?)? Im kinda curious if a new developed app could get it to work. or is there a way to see what hardware is present or disabled?

outlawbiker said:
ive been out of the loop with this stuff for awhile, did Samsung disable the FM (software sided?) or did Qualcomm (hardware sided?)? Im kinda curious if a new developed app could get it to work. or is there a way to see what hardware is present or disabled?
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It's Samsung and hardware. If you don't connect the radio then it'll never work. Doesn't matter if the radio is within the chip. You also need an antenna which isn't present internally. Also in the US there is not Note 20 with testing done for the fm radio.
It's safe to assume Samsung didn't pay licensing, didn't connect the com for the radio with an antenna component connected, and didn't have FCC test the feature.

This is driving me nuts. I researched before this Note 20 Ultra 512GB came out and read that it will have the FM radio but only in the Snapdragon version which is what I have here in the US. I did a trade in of my Note 8 which worked fine with the FM radio. I even bought an adapter for the charge port for the wired headphones. Now I've lost the Note 8 with radio functionality to a trade in. I'm so mad. I used the radio to tune in at conventions to a local unused station that the convention used so I can listen without distraction and record the talks with voice recorder for later listening, it recorded the radio station directly. This was very important to me. Someone from SAMSUNG chat help said there is no FM chip in the US models. The NextRadio app says can't access the FM function and to tell my carrier I want access to it.
What is the deal? Does it have FM or not? If so, does Verizon need to activate it? I just can't seem to find a definitive answer and cannot find a code that works to find the secret menu for this phone via the phone app. Please someone help.

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This is driving me nuts. I researched before this Note 20 Ultra 512GB came out and read that it will have the FM radio but only in the Snapdragon version which is what I have here in the US. I did a trade in of my Note 8 which worked fine with the FM radio. I even bought an adapter for the charge port for the wired headphones. Now I've lost the Note 8 with radio functionality to a trade in. I'm so mad. I used the radio to tune in at conventions to a local unused station that the convention used so I can listen without distraction and record the talks with voice recorder for later listening, it recorded the radio station directly. This was very important to me. Someone from SAMSUNG chat help said there is no FM chip in the US models. The NextRadio app says can't access the FM function and to tell my carrier I want access to it.
What is the deal? Does it have FM or not? If so, does Verizon need to activate it? I just can't seem to find a definitive answer and cannot find a code that works to find the secret menu for this phone via the phone app. Please someone help.
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Sorry man, it doesn't look like it is the case. I went through this with my unlocked Note 10+. I was even hoping that the T-Mobile version would have FM because the previous CEO made it a mandate for phones on the T-Mobile network but they must have quietly let that one go once the headphone jack was gone. My S10+ has a connected FM Radio but not my A71 5g.

Thanks for answering. I just wanted to be sure as I don't always trust support people. Half the time, by the time I reluctanly call or chat support for anything it's because I just can't find the answer and it's something beyond what these "tech support" people have scripted for them. They just wind up frustrating me more.
After posting this I tested the adapter for the headphones in my mother's Note 8 with NextRadio. No sound with NextRadio. Only when plugged directly in to the 3.5mm jack. So, even if there was FM on the Note 20 Ultra, the charging port headphone adapter theory won't work.
Tempted to write the FCC to get this mandatory but will probably be a waste of time. I'll just get an mp3 player with FM radio that will record from the radio and have to carry another device around on those occasions (at least a clipon or armband). Most of the ones on Amazon seem to be Chinese made and I am concerned about the quality and reliability. We will see.
Thanks again.

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Stereo Bluttooth problem

Whenever I play music over bluetooth to my motorola s9 headset, it skips every 3-10 seconds. The music stops for a second or so, then starts again where it left off. It's the same as if someone were pushing pause and play all the time. It's very annoying!!
I found a fix using the search feature but it was created for the hermes, I moved it to my phone and when I tried to run it, it just opened the opera browser and didn't do anything. It was called A2DPFix v1.0.
Is there a fix for the Touch pro? Or anything else I can do to stop this problem.
I use WMP to play my music, if that matters.
Thanks!
the skip usually comes from heavy interference in the area. that means someone, somewhere in your vicinity is using a higher powered device that runs in a similar frequency.. I cant use my stereo bt for music when I connect it to my ipod video (via bt adapter) with all the staff running around with their high powered radio transmitters.
atleast this is my observation....
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the skip usually comes from heavy interference in the area. that means someone, somewhere in your vicinity is using a higher powered device that runs in a similar frequency.. I cant use my stereo bt for music when I connect it to my ipod video (via bt adapter) with all the staff running around with their high powered radio transmitters.
atleast this is my observation....
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It happens when I am running, I leave from my apartment and run about 1 mile toward the woods. Then I run through a dirt road in the woods for another 2 miles before coming back, so I don't think there is any interference..?
Thanks for the reply!
ah ok. I thought you meant using the stereo bt in a city environment.
Just to cover bases, did you buy the s9 via ebay or did you buy it from a store. The first time I bought a stereo bt headset, i made the mistake of buying it via ebay from a buyer from hk.. which is.. a bad idea, because it was fake and it sucked. If you bought it from an actual store in the US, then I think you can use advanced config to ramp up some settings under bluetooth to get higher performance. I hope that helps.
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ah ok. I thought you meant using the stereo bt in a city environment.
Just to cover bases, did you buy the s9 via ebay or did you buy it from a store. The first time I bought a stereo bt headset, i made the mistake of buying it via ebay from a buyer from hk.. which is.. a bad idea, because it was fake and it sucked. If you bought it from an actual store in the US, then I think you can use advanced config to ramp up some settings under bluetooth to get higher performance. I hope that helps.
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I did buy it from ebay actually. It doesn't seem fake though... How would I know?
there's a link out there that shows you the difference between the real and fake s9.
Here's the official motorola website showing (with pictures) the difference
http://www.motorola.com/content.jsp?globalObjectId=8627-10942
here's the ebay link that has a review in text.
http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot...Motorola-S9-Part-2_W0QQugidZ10000000008744317
goodluck. i hope yours isn't fake.

[App Request] FM Radio transmit / full band receive

Hi all.... this is not your usual "I want to listen to FM on my otherwise unsupported ROM" request. What I'm requesting I think would be far more interesting, and if applied properly, could benefit many makes and models of phone. For that reason, maybe this belongs in an even more general forum, but I'm starting here because this is the phone I have and I don't know just how many other models use this same hardware.
I see that the HTC Doubleshot / T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide, along with several other phones, has a BCM4329-B1 radio chipset. This chip is reported in many places to be capable of not only FM Radio receive but also transmit. Unfortunately, that's as far as anyone goes with listing what it's capable of doing. Partly because of this (and partly because of search overload or maybe me not knowing what terms to use in my search), I can't find specs enough on the chip to know the full range of frequencies it receives. I have seen enough to imply that the same chip handles bluetooth, wifi, as well as FM broadcast band. Something as widespread as that might just be capable of extending receive capabilities outside of the usual broadcast band (for instance, maybe it can be used as a "police scanner" of sorts).
If nothing else, I think it would be fantastic to have an APK that can take MP3s or perhaps any kind of streaming media and retransmit it, low-power of course, to a nearby FM radio set to receive on the same frequency (much easier to get e.g. Pandora into every room in my house this way). I just figure if I'm going to ask for this I may as well ask for the world, right? Of course I don't expect a multiband ham radio to pop out of my phone, but if I could use it to maybe pick up a wireless microphone at 181 MHz, or act as a frequency meter (similar to WiFi Analyzer apk) for low-power transmitter troubleshooting, that would be phenomenal. Icing on the cake would be the ability to record what it receives, assuming it receives outside of band (record-to-file equals record-to-stream, here, meaning also record-and-serve-on-a-wifi-or-4G-link).
Any takers?
I wish I could offer time and skill but I just don't know enough about development nor does my life lend much in the way of free time for hobbies... I'm hopeful someone else has already thought of this.
Regards and TIA
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I'm hopeful someone else has already thought of this.
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I have a unique position on this, because it's a problem I run into consistently.
When i'm doing this and can't hear anything around me, and the camera gets no music when it records.
The only good way to deal with this without getting a noise disturbance violation at night is to use a couple of androids to sync all the music up - person(s) on camera has a device with headphones, sync up with the one playing music next to the camera.
There is no smooth way to handle that in random locations all over the place, way out of wifi range and possibly with no cell service as well.
There is no easy answer but there are ways of making it work. I'd write up a guide on how we do it now, but being down to only one device I can't run through it in front of me now, i'll have to wait until I see my friend again so we have two or 3 machines to use at once or I get my hands on another one (hopefully soon - this is my biggest aggravation with being temporarily down a device, no bluetooth or interacting with another device testing)
Since someone else in interested in the exact same issue here i'll take the time at some point to sit down and recap what worked or didn't work and link to the things that did. Have to be another day though, i'm pretty tired now and gonna catch some sleep soon.
Anyone else put effort into something like this?
Blue6IX said:
I have a unique position on this, because it's a problem I run into consistently.
When i'm doing this and can't hear anything around me, and the camera gets no music when it records.
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ah HAH! I WONDERED what you had for a "day" job!
Joking aside though, I'm surprised out where there's no cell signal they worry about noise violations... Here, there's a time limit (15 minutes at a time with at least I think a 5 minute break IIRC) but you can make noise pretty much any time at night. Just don't wake the neighbors up and nobody complains
Thanks for posting your thoughts. I'm willing to test insomuch as it won't risk the device. I just don't know enough to program my own app for this...
...if it's even possible: a guy at work reminded me today that just as CPU manufacturers use the same chip designation to indicate a CPU with and without features like L2 cache, phone mfgrs like Samsung (he has a not-so-new Galaxy phone) have been known to use this same chip with the FM radio capabilities completely absent to the point that someone in the know actually removed the chip from his device, hooked it up on a bench, and was completely unable to get it to do anything FM radio related. It may be that while some iterations of the chip overall are capable of being made with transmit, that it's quite likely transmit itself was left out of the hardware itself.
I'd still like to see if it's possible. Maybe if the chip identifies itself in the OS, we can see how it does, and maybe it will hint at whether transmit was included or not.
Found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042094
Which implies this was originally touched upon before the Evo... However, it also provides enough info as to say the only FM receive/transmit this chip will do OOB is FM broadcast band (76-108 MHz). Still, it can transmit...
Bump!!!!
That would be ill if you could transmit on FM band ...... anyone make any progress?
Although why not just stream via bluetooth? what would the advantage to transmitting on fm band be other than epic nerd street cred
Some_dude36 said:
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That would be ill if you could transmit on FM band ...... anyone make any progress?
Although why not just stream via bluetooth? what would the advantage to transmitting on fm band be other than epic nerd street cred
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Not all devices support a2dp
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Fm xmit might go farther, especially if the right antenna can be made.
Fm can be simultaneously received by multiple devices. Think here tv-out to a small portable projector showing the latest theatrical releases in full composite glory and stereo sound out of the viewers' battery operated headphone radios all while offering 4g data hotspot... :~/
Honestly, the real reason for me is the fm radios in the garage are louder than the portable computer speakers I've been playing Pandora through and I hate the dinky transmitter that came with my wife's ipod because it only does 4 stations high in the band. This would make that much easier (and I'm sure many others would find a use for this).
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HTC DoubleShot /T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Slide running Bulletproof
FM Transmit:
I get asked this question regularly, and my response is generally: "Forget about it, almost no Android phones connect the FM Transmit pins anywhere useful".
But a few months ago a helpful person sent me an HTC FM transmit app. Apparently it was meant for the T-Mobile/HTC Mytouch 4G, and apparently that device is supposed to have the transmit pins connected.
I have no idea (yet) if that is true or if this also applies to the "Slide" variant.
I'm sure this will only work on ROMs that use the Broadcom proprietary Bluetooth stack and that have sufficient parts of Sense present. IE, a stock or stock derived ROM. It probably requires Froyo or GingerBread.
If anyone has or can load such a ROM and wants to try, and will commit to reporting their results, email me at mikereidis AT gmail.com and I'll send the APK.
Thanks...
mikereidis said:
FM Transmit:
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But a few months ago a helpful person sent me an HTC FM transmit app. Apparently it was meant for the T-Mobile/HTC Mytouch 4G, and apparently that device is supposed to have the transmit pins connected.
I have no idea (yet) if that is true or if this also applies to the "Slide" variant.
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I had one tester who reported success, but on the non "Slide" version. Details and a link to the app are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31328070&postcount=4391
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I had one tester who reported success, but on the non "Slide" version. Details and a link to the app are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31328070&postcount=4391
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I installed it on a stock sense rom on the MT4GS and the app loads, but when I press transmit it just stays on the "FM Transmitter turning on" so I'm guessing that means that it won't work...
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I installed it on a stock sense rom on the MT4GS and the app loads, but when I press transmit it just stays on the "FM Transmitter turning on" so I'm guessing that means that it won't work...
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Thanks for trying.
That's exactly what happens on my Desire HD and Desire Z running stock derived Gingerbread.
The success report for the non-slide phone was on Android 2.2.1. I don't know if 2.3.x is possible, but I'll find out when I get my myTouch 4G HD hopefully by the end of the week.
I expect to add a transmit test function to my FM app Spirit at some point, and it will then likely work on any ROM, though audio routing could be a challenge.
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I installed it on a stock sense rom on the MT4GS and the app loads, but when I press transmit it just stays on the "FM Transmitter turning on" so I'm guessing that means that it won't work...
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I get the same exact scenario myself. I even went to the extent of making sure I had some audio playing to make sure that it wasn't just the fact there was no audio and it might have been waiting for it. still no joy. It appears that the slide variant of the MyTouch 4G does indeed not have the Fm transmit pins connected. then again, I have not looked at my logs yet, so I do not know exactly what it has been doing.
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The logcat doesn't show any errors with executing the FM Transmitter app. What I can see is the FM Reciever gets activated on the logcat. I should say that FMTx & FMRx cannot be run in the same time.
1. So the error could be the FMTx got killed by the FMRx intentionally.
2. BCM4329 driver doesn't have the code to interact with the FMTx chipset.
If the mt4gs does indeed have FMTx on it's chipset then I'm sure it's working/connected on the board else we wouldn't have any FM Radio on our device.
Bluetooth, FMTx & FMRx is located in the same part of the chipset. One dies then all of them dies.
Now anybody here could link me to the stock kernel of the device which made this work? I could look at the bcm driver on that kernel and maybe I could hook it up on the mt4gs kernel to make it work.
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Ok guys confirmed! Hardware should be capable of transmitting fm frequencies.
Looking at the data sheet FM Tx & Rx are bidirectional which means as long as FM Rx is working so will be Tx.
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Now the problems left would be the driver & the Hardware Abstraction Layer(HAL). Since we already have an FM Tx app.
LOLcat ?
Yes, the 4329 has TX inside, no problem, but I'm pretty sure it can only transmit or receive at one time, never simultaneously.
Every time I've looked at the internals of the Broadcom proprietary Bluetooth stack I've seen the transmit function, and HTCs implementation tends to include that, and their own mods.
The biggest issue should be whether or not the Transmit pins are connected to the headset. Heck, most of the phones with this chip don't even connect the receive antenna pins. (IE no FM radio whatsoever, grrr, what a waste.)
That said, I'm not quite sure why the TX app hangs on most phones, other than the plain myTouch 4G. There might be some difference and I hope to get to the bottom of it.
And eventually, I should be able to make Transmit work on any BCM4329 device with the transmit antenna pins wired, but there will likely be very few such devices.
And before anyone asks, it will likely be completely infeasible to make the hardware mod needed, same as for FM receive antenna pins.
I see 28 downloads of the FMTx app now.
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LOLcat ?
Yes, the 4329 has TX inside, no problem, but I'm pretty sure it can only transmit or receive at one time, never simultaneously.
Every time I've looked at the internals of the Broadcom proprietary Bluetooth stack I've seen the transmit function, and HTCs implementation tends to include that, and their own mods.
The biggest issue should be whether or not the Transmit pins are connected to the headset. Heck, most of the phones with this chip don't even connect the receive antenna pins. (IE no FM radio whatsoever, grrr, what a waste.)
That said, I'm not quite sure why the TX app hangs on most phones, other than the plain myTouch 4G. There might be some difference and I hope to get to the bottom of it.
And eventually, I should be able to make Transmit work on any BCM4329 device with the transmit antenna pins wired, but there will likely be very few such devices.
And before anyone asks, it will likely be completely infeasible to make the hardware mod needed, same as for FM receive antenna pins.
I see 28 downloads of the FMTx app now.
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Hi! As I said if FMRx works then should be FMTx. So it's clear now that hardware wise FMTx should be fully working. Now software wise that I still don't know.
Regarding antenna I'm not quite sure if it's really necessary? You see I have a device here Nokia N900 which has a built in FMRx & FMTx feature which was really implemented by nokia. And I already dissassembled it alot of time to the point I know each and every part of it And I can activate it's FMTx without the need of a headset. I just need to play the music player select the Transmit FM option and select the frequency I want then I can channel the music to any radio reciever 1 to 2 meters away from me without the need of an antenna.
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_FM_Radio_Transmitter
Riyal said:
Hi! As I said if FMRx works then should be FMTx. So it's clear now that hardware wise FMTx should be fully working. Now software wise that I still don't know.
Regarding antenna I'm not quite sure if it's really necessary? You see I have a device here Nokia N900 which has a built in FMRx & FMTx feature which was really implemented by nokia. And I already dissassembled it alot of time to the point I know each and every part of it And I can activate it's FMTx without the need of a headset. I just need to play the music player select the Transmit FM option and select the frequency I want then I can channel the music to any radio reciever 1 to 2 meters away from me without the need of an antenna.
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_FM_Radio_Transmitter
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Yes, the CHIP has all the hardware needed. But the most important "hardware part" is the connection of something to the FM Tx antenna pin. Even if the pins aren't grounded (Which tends to kill all chance) and left floating, the chips are inside "RF shields" will just about kills any chance of reception/transmission.
Every radio receiver or transmitter MUST have an antenna. On some devices it may be internal and you don't see it, but it's definitely there. On old AM radios internal antennas were a LONG piece of wire wrapped around a bar (ferrite?).
In some cases, an antenna is just circuit board traces. For high frequencies, such as cell or GPS or Bt/WiFi only very small antennas are needed. For lower frequencies, like FM around 100 MHz, the best antennas are roughly the length of headset cables.
This could possibly be coiled and wrapped around something and hidden inside the phone. But it's there, no way around needing an antenna.
I have some phones that do remarkably well with no wired headset for an antenna. But an "antenna" of sorts is still there, even if it's only several millimetres to centimetres of circuit board traces meant to connect the antenna pins on the chip to the headset.
Yeah, LOLcat. when you go into command prompt, "adb lolcat" is the same as "adb logcat". Apparently, the team at Google said "logcat" so often and so fast it sounded like "lolcat" to them.
Mikereidis is correct, you do need an antenna, even if it's hidden. Otherwise you have extremely high standing wave ratio (SWR) that will eventually fry your transmit amplifier. This is basic radio theory at play, that one learns when becoming FCC licensed radio operators like General Radiotelephone Operator or Amateur Radio Operator (I'm the latter of these, KE4EDD, though I haven't picked up a transceiver in about a decade).
Like he said, it's not as critical at higher frequencies because wavelength (and therefore necessary antenna length) is shorter and can be hidden inside the device (take the cover off your MT4GS and you'll see three separate antennae all up around the camera lens -- they're just thin sheets of metal on this phone).
Still, the pinout of the chip itself is important. This I know nothing of as I haven't seen it. either way, if the spec sheet says Rx and Tx work on the same connections (e.g., they both require the same pins to be "high" in order to physically activate either mode) then all we need is to get the HAL and driver set up. I know nothing of this as well. Wish I could help. All I can do is offer my phone's lolcat services.
On that note, I received a <sisa:###:##:#::#> text message this morning, appears that it's a T-mo thing, that T-mo is trying to update my phone (which is running a custom ROM), and now my digitizer doesn't work, so I may need to hold off on even the lolcat until I get it fixed.
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"adb lolcat" is the same as "adb logcat". Apparently, the team at Google said "logcat" so often and so fast it sounded like "lolcat" to them.
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Learn something new every day. But I think it was more a joke about the very popular meme than mis-hearing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolcat
cj chitwood said:
you do need an antenna, even if it's hidden. Otherwise you have extremely high standing wave ratio (SWR) that will eventually fry your transmit amplifier. This is basic radio theory at play, that one learns when becoming FCC licensed radio operators like General Radiotelephone Operator or Amateur Radio Operator
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I know the theory, but I've never believed that low power, under 100 mw transmitters get damaged too often. But I imagine a final output transistor on a chip can't take as much abuse as an external one.
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Still, the pinout of the chip itself is important. This I know nothing of as I haven't seen it. either way, if the spec sheet says Rx and Tx work on the same connections (e.g., they both require the same pins to be "high" in order to physically activate either mode) then all we need is to get the HAL and driver set up.
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Documents about these chips are "very secret". I can't even find much on Chinese sites that specialise in proprietary documents. The official vague block diagrams can't be trusted either.
But if the transmit and receive pins were the same pins, I'm pretty sure we would have achieved FM transmit long ago on the most popular Broadcom chips, on devices that support receive. That said, I think the much rarer Qualcomm Tavarua chips use the same pins, and there are no transmit reports on them.
I've looked at schematics of some phones, and I've seen FM antenna pins specifically labelled as "Rx", so that's another clue in favor of the idea that Rx and Tx pins are different. This might also be easier to achieve on the chip.
I wonder too if it's easier to achieve FCC etc certification if the hardware design specifically makes FM transmit impossible.
I'm certain it is easier to achieve, as long as they can certify to the FCC that no more than so many milliwatts will be pushed out. Then again, with as many transmitters as there are that are available to the public, it can't be that hard to do.
We keep talking about Tx and Rx pins. In my limited experience with chips, I'm wondering if these are antenna pins, or activation pins. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was that some chips have a mode select pin (high is one mode, low is another) that could be labeled both as Tx and Rx, and each mode requires a separate other pin to have a certain voltage on it to provide power for that section of the chip. Alternatively, to have two mode select pins, again whichever one is hot selects the mode, and the third pin provides power for both modes, and thus is labeled Tx Rx even if the mode select pin isn't attached.
Either way, if pinouts are so secretive about this, it's pointless to discuss pins because they literally could be anything. I think however that you having seen the innards and/or schematics of these devices means that you would know more than I as I have yet to even crack mine open
Oh and the lolcat thing... no, you really can type "adb lolcat" in command prompt and it runs a logcat. The explanation for this was literally that they said "logcat" so fast it sounded like "lolcat". I am fully aware of the meme, http://icanhascheezburger.com and have forwarded quite a few on to the wife even.

Bluetooth issue when audio jack connected

I am wondering if any of you fellow Verizonites would be willing to help me test this out, as I have already asked my friend with the AT&T version if his does this, and it does not:
When connected to the aux in (very common on cars and stereos nowadays, you know, so you can listen to music off your phones and iPods and MP3 players, etc.) I now have the SAME incredibly aggravating problem I could never resolve with my Fascinate. As usual, I have my bluetooth connected to take the call. When I answer the call, I hear NOTHING over my bluetooth unless I disconnect the audio cable out of the headphone jack!!! This is a huge safety hazard, as it takes your hands and eyes off the road, requiring you to disconnect a cable every time you get a call!!
I called Verizon and complained about this with my Fascinate to no avail. I never had this issue with my Droid X, HTC Eris, or my Galaxy Nexus, another dual core Snapdragon based Verizon LTE phone made by Samsung.
Not to mention the SGS III is laggier and less responsive than my Nexus, although not as bad once you disable S Voice (S is for stupid, by the way, at least in my opinion ... I can't get it to work worth a darn!! Could be that I'm the stupid one, but I've certainly given it a lot of effort in a very quiet environment.)
This is horrible because the screen is incredible, and the battery life far outpaces every other smartphone I've ever had by a ridiculous margin, so PLEASE, fellow Verizon SGSIII friends, help me out if you can!! I don't want to have to return this phone, but reasons to do so are stacking up.
If there's no fix for the audio cable thing, that is a definite deal breaker, and enough to make the phone "defective" in my opinion. That is such a blatant safety hazard. I do NOT want a "Fascinate 2". The other issues pale in comparison to the audio cable issue.
Here is a video of the AT&T version NOT having this glaring safety and functionality issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A37p4fF-h-k
This is a glaring safety issue you are right. I planned to have bluetooth on my ear to take calls but have the phone plugged in for music on my car speakers.
The other thing is I bought a Samsung HM7000 thinking it would work with the SAMSUNG S III. Pff. I guess FreeSync App doesn't support the S III yet. I will definitely express to Verizon/Samsung why I have to return this headset if this isn't solved in a few weeks. I will contact Verizon on this.
So this doesn't affect other US Galaxy S III units only Verizon? That's so weird but it also suggests it's an easy fix.
I tested it with Bose Bluetooth earpiece and that works, somewhat. If you have the Aux plugged in and get a call, the phone picks up your voice from the Bluetooth and plays the other guys voice through the Aux. Unplugging the Aux mid-call will route the other guys voice back to the Bluetooth. In both cases both me and my friend could hear each other.
There is a problem though. When the Aux is plugged in, with Bluetooth our not, the call quality will drop significantly. It will sound as if you're in a horrible signal area and will cut out every other second or so making it impossible to carry on a conversation. Funny thing is as soon as I unplug the Aux the call is back to normal and we can hear each other just perfect. It's as if with Aux the noise cancellation kicks in and starts cancelling out everything, including your and the other guys voice, lol. Not sure if that's just my phone or SGS3 in general. I actually intentionally used this "glitch" to avoid taking to annoying person. Just tell them "I'm in a bad area and can't talk" and plug in the aux mid-call and they will stop bugging you as soon as they hear the voice glitch up
My bluetooth headset works fine with the audio out through the "dock" connector.
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This is a glaring safety issue you are right. I planned to have bluetooth on my ear to take calls but have the phone plugged in for music on my car speakers.
The other thing is I bought a Samsung HM7000 thinking it would work with the SAMSUNG S III. Pff. I guess FreeSync App doesn't support the S III yet. I will definitely express to Verizon/Samsung why I have to return this headset if this isn't solved in a few weeks. I will contact Verizon on this.
So this doesn't affect other US Galaxy S III units only Verizon? That's so weird but it also suggests it's an easy fix.
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Same here
Using bluetooth in a 2009 infiniti, AUX jack prevents proper bluetooth calling or receiving. I had come to rely on this in my other phones (HTC).
same here too
I upgraded from a fascinate to a s3 and have the same problem on both phones. It is really annoying and I'd love to find a fix for it.
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Using bluetooth in a 2009 infiniti, AUX jack prevents proper bluetooth calling or receiving. I had come to rely on this in my other phones (HTC).
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I think I am having the same problem with the Bluetooth in my 2010 G37. It seems like if u connect via Bluetooth for media audio, I can't get calls and vice versa. Plus when I connect to media audio and try and switch back to just phone, it doesn't auto connect when I get in the car.
My Rezound didn't seem to have any of these issues.
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This was the case with my 1st generation galaxy s epic 4g. Looks like Samsung still hasn't recognized this as an issue. The smart developers here ultimately fixed this on my epic but my s3 is still suffering from this... Btw I'm on synergy. I would love for someone smarter than me to figure this out. Please, please....
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This was the case with my 1st generation galaxy s epic 4g. Looks like Samsung still hasn't recognized this as an issue. The smart developers here ultimately fixed this on my epic but my s3 is still suffering from this... Btw I'm on synergy. I would love for someone smarter than me to figure this out. Please, please....
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I don't know who to blame, Samsung or Verizon. I have the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and it does NOT have this issue. Never had that issue, with stock or custom ROMs. A good friend has the SIII on AT&T and it also does NOT have this issue, as the video above demonstrates. He also owns the Galaxy SII, which also does not have this issue. I used to rock a Droid X. At least my Droid X did not have this issue, although I have read reports of other Droid X owners' phones having this problem. My old HTC Eris also didn't have this issue. But, as mentioned above, my Fascinate does have this issue.
It's horrible. I have messaged Samsung, and they have responded that they are looking into it. It's the same response they gave me several weeks ago when I first posted on the support page on Facebook about this issue. I have also called and complained, after which their support tech said she wasn't yet fully trained on the SGS III yet, and they had a special number for me to call, which of course wasn't open at the time.
If a dev can figure this out, he can at least count on a donation from me.
I am sick of this ... I decided to keep this phone despite this issue, because of all the other goodness it brings to the table (especially battery life!! Wow!!) But this is still a horrible issue.
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I don't know who to blame, Samsung or Verizon. I have the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and it does NOT have this issue. Never had that issue, with stock or custom ROMs. A good friend has the SIII on AT&T and it also does NOT have this issue, as the video above demonstrates. He also owns the Galaxy SII, which also does not have this issue. I used to rock a Droid X. At least my Droid X did not have this issue, although I have read reports of other Droid X owners' phones having this problem. My old HTC Eris also didn't have this issue. But, as mentioned above, my Fascinate does have this issue.
It's horrible. I have messaged Samsung, and they have responded that they are looking into it. It's the same response they gave me several weeks ago when I first posted on the support page on Facebook about this issue. I have also called and complained, after which their support tech said she wasn't yet fully trained on the SGS III yet, and they had a special number for me to call, which of course wasn't open at the time.
If a dev can figure this out, he can at least count on a donation from me.
I am sick of this ... I decided to keep this phone despite this issue, because of all the other goodness it brings to the table (especially battery life!! Wow!!) But this is still a horrible issue.
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I have the same problem - my 2008 Tundra does not have A2DP for audio streaming, but does have BT for phone calls (and works great). On my previous Droid2, I could use the AUX jack for music and the BT for calls no problem. Now, with the S3, if I hook up AUX for music and BT for calls, then when a call comes in the phone keeps the audio out going to the AUX jack while my truck switches to BT for sound. Therefor, I can't hear the other person (but they can hear me) unless I unplug the audio jack.
From what I've found on the net, it seems it's something in the bluetooth settings/drivers in how Samsung has them implemented on the phone, which is not the same as how they are implemented in the Motos and HTCs. I was unaware that other carrier versions and/or certain other Samsung phones (S2, Nexus) did not have this problem.
For now, I've solved it by getting my hands on a car dock for the ATT Infuse 4G, which has the "dock" mode built into the USB connector with both power and audio output. I dock my S3 into this dock and changed the settings to output audio out the dock. Then I plug my AUX cable into the dock and it works like I expected it to from the start.
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I have the same problem - my 2008 Tundra does not have A2DP for audio streaming, but does have BT for phone calls (and works great). On my previous Droid2, I could use the AUX jack for music and the BT for calls no problem. Now, with the S3, if I hook up AUX for music and BT for calls, then when a call comes in the phone keeps the audio out going to the AUX jack while my truck switches to BT for sound. Therefor, I can't hear the other person (but they can hear me) unless I unplug the audio jack.
From what I've found on the net, it seems it's something in the bluetooth settings/drivers in how Samsung has them implemented on the phone, which is not the same as how they are implemented in the Motos and HTCs. I was unaware that other carrier versions and/or certain other Samsung phones (S2, Nexus) did not have this problem.
For now, I've solved it by getting my hands on a car dock for the ATT Infuse 4G, which has the "dock" mode built into the USB connector with both power and audio output. I dock my S3 into this dock and changed the settings to output audio out the dock. Then I plug my AUX cable into the dock and it works like I expected it to from the start.
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Does the S3 fit into the dock ok? Any stability problems? And you get proper 3.5 inch output for your car's input, plus your bluetooth call works? I have the same kind of deck in my Freestyle. Installed it myself. It does bluetooth for calls but not A2DP. Thanks for your responses so far! I am willing to buy a dock if it works like that. I would just appreciate any reassurance you could give me that it will work out ok ...
but that's a really nice idea that i didn't consider. I would really like to get this thing working and willing to apply any dev fix. what's interesting is that skype calls work fine, yet regular phone calls do not i'll give this doc a try.
Ok, I have the dock now, and wanted to update everyone on this. Audio quality is good, better than bluetooth, but an ever so slight downgrade from just plugging straight into the headphone with an audio cable, but it's certainly good enough.
The one thing that is annoying enough to prevent me from using it is that there is an audible click between each song. I haven't a clue how to get rid of this!! ARGHH!!! I haven't tested the dock with video or pandora output to see if the clicks persist, but as of right now, it's a bit annoying on a long trip. Otherwise, this would work really nicely, and is a pretty cheap fix for $18, not to mention getting a fully functional windshield/dash mount to use your phone as a GPS with.
Hoping my new ROM I installed might solve the audio issue. It has a custom kernel, and possibly improved car dock compatibility. We shall see...
Hello everyone!
I just upgraded to the SIII from my Droid 4 and am having this same issue. Does anyone have a fix? It seems silly to have to buy additional items to get it to work when it worked fine on other phones.
I like the stock ROM, but will flash if necessary to get this to work, as its very distracting while driving.
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Hello everyone!
I just upgraded to the SIII from my Droid 4 and am having this same issue. Does anyone have a fix? It seems silly to have to buy additional items to get it to work when it worked fine on other phones.
I like the stock ROM, but will flash if necessary to get this to work, as its very distracting while driving.
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SoundAbout Pro is an app that will override Samsung's stupidity when it comes to BT/AuxJack audio routing. Well worth the price of admission.

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Having some very annoying BT issues. Phone pairs fine with pretty much anything. But when streaming audio it cuts in and out pretty frequently but never lost its connection. Called ATT and they sent me a new one. Phone does they same thing. This one actually looses its connection periodically, some days are worse than others. Main issue is in my 2013 Subaru Outback. Does it sometimes with my Phillips BT speaker but not as consistently.
I'm not rooted and have tried both ART and dalvik and the issue is present no matter what.
Since this has happened with two phones I figured I can't be the only one. Anybody else have this problem?
I drive a semi all day, I connect my phone via BT to the stereo and listen to audiobooks/slacker radio for 12 hours a day and have never had this issue. In the BT menu there is an option to 'Turn on Audio Channel Mode' have you tried that? I don't have it on but perhaps it will help? Also I know this phone supports some new BT standards for low power, perhaps this is causing an issue with you devices, I don't know if you can turn that off, or if it's something that is just not very backwards compatible?
i have a similar connect/disconnect issue but only if its not in use it seems. like when its just connected but not streaming i'll notice my car will say it disconnected and reconnected. sometimes when i'm on the phone it gets all staticky and robot sounding...but only with my cars bluetooth. never had an issue with my og pro on 4.4 so i dont think its 4.4. havent done a factory reset yet, hopefully thats all it is cuz there are some other little quirks too
I don't experience audio cut outs, but I do experience severe cracking no matter what tweaks/adjustments I make.
Another problem is that it doesn't read my texts to me while connected to my car. Works fine with my Nokia Lumia 1520 and HTC One x. Its pretty annoying.
You guys should post details on the bluetooth devices you're connecting to. I had a white G3 and now have a black one and both did nothing you guys are talking about when connected to Pyle, Klipsch, Logitech or Chrysler Uconnect bluetooth audio devices. I use Spotify, Car Home Ultra, Google Maps Navigation, make calls via the phone and the Uconnect system will pick up the activity and play the audio correctly, initiate and receive calls in UConnect, Send/Receive Texts via UConnect, control audio volume and tracks. None of that causes disconnects or static for me.
I do have serious problems when playing music with the stock music app over bluetooth. If I try to rewind or ff the G3 starts freaking out and will begin playing the music slower despite not having touched the advanced audio controls. It really sucks. Luckily it doesn't do that with Poweramp or Subsonic clients. Doesn't happen with headphones directly connected either.
If this is not a problem with the G3 when paired to certain devices I think your bluetooth radios are defective. There would be way more complaints if this was prevalent.
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I don't experience audio cut outs, but I do experience severe cracking no matter what tweaks/adjustments I make.
Another problem is that it doesn't read my texts to me while connected to my car. Works fine with my Nokia Lumia 1520 and HTC One x. Its pretty annoying.
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Text reading will depend on your device and your car's bluetooth stack compatibility. My GS5 could do everything but call out in my car. It worked good for a month then an update broke it. iPhone 5S could do everything but read and send texts. My G3 does everything great. If you research your car radio model and the G3 I'd bet you'd see that nobody has it working with the AT&T G3. You may see people with variants have it working especially international. Sometimes there are weird tricks to get things working. I had to disconnect and reconnect my GS5 a few times in order for it to work.
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You guys should post details on the bluetooth devices you're connecting to. I had a white G3 and now have a black one and both did nothing you guys are talking about when connected to Pyle, Klipsch, Logitech or Chrysler Uconnect bluetooth audio devices. I use Spotify, Car Home Ultra, Google Maps Navigation, make calls via the phone and the Uconnect system will pick up the activity and play the audio correctly, initiate and receive calls in UConnect, Send/Receive Texts via UConnect, control audio volume and tracks. None of that causes disconnects or static for me.
I do have serious problems when playing music with the stock music app over bluetooth. If I try to rewind or ff the G3 starts freaking out and will begin playing the music slower despite not having touched the advanced audio controls. It really sucks. Luckily it doesn't do that with Poweramp or Subsonic clients. Doesn't happen with headphones directly connected either.
If this is not a problem with the G3 when paired to certain devices I think your bluetooth radios are defective. There would be way more complaints if this was prevalent.
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Text reading will depend on your device and your car's bluetooth stack compatibility. My GS5 could do everything but call out in my car. It worked good for a month then an update broke it. iPhone 5S could do everything but read and send texts. My G3 does everything great. If you research your car radio model and the G3 I'd bet you'd see that nobody has it working with the AT&T G3. You may see people with variants have it working especially international. Sometimes there are weird tricks to get things working. I had to disconnect and reconnect my GS5 a few times in order for it to work.
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I found this, but my 2014 FJ Cruiser isn't on the list, neither is my G3.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&so...woHcO6CgPFvWsEew&sig2=QZyBxl51eRFrONj056uGBg
Still looking.
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I found this, but my 2014 FJ Cruiser isn't on the list, neither is my G3.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&so...woHcO6CgPFvWsEew&sig2=QZyBxl51eRFrONj056uGBg
Still looking.
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I'm guessing you don't have the JBL radio. http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/features.html#!/interior I love FJCs especially for offroading. They're beasts.
I can't find the model info for your radio. You can check Toyota parts for it. Should be the only one besides the JBL. The notes on that interior page reference needing to have a compatible bluetooth stack. I went through similar crap with my 2013 Durango. Nothing past the Galaxy S 2 from Samsung on CDMA (Verizon or Sprint) works with UConnect stereos for placing calls which can suck really bad if you're moving around during the day. No texts read aloud on my radio will say the number or name because of some issue with the was texts in the US are sent as opposed to international ones.
The G2 works well with the Entune Toyota radios so it looks like you just got screwed with that FJC radio. Those Fj radios have always been kinda outdated and more durable looking if not in function. It's kinda like Wrangler radio systems. They don't want a little mud or water to break em or something.
You could try a work around. You could just toggle Settings >Sound> Message/call voice notifications. It's at the bottom of the Sound page. When it's on its supposed to read the texts for you. If the stereo can pause music during a song to allow navigation commands to be heard it may announce the texts for you. Some radios and phones have problems with that too.
If that works maybe use a shortcut to the Sound settings in an app like Car Home Ultra or use something like Tasker to switch it on when bluetooth connects to your car. That second option would be pretty seamless.

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I'm guessing you don't have the JBL radio. http://www.toyota.com/fjcruiser/features.html#!/interior I love FJCs especially for offroading. They're beasts.
I can't find the model info for your radio. You can check Toyota parts for it. Should be the only one besides the JBL. The notes on that interior page reference needing to have a compatible bluetooth stack. I went through similar crap with my 2013 Durango. Nothing past the Galaxy S 2 from Samsung on CDMA (Verizon or Sprint) works with UConnect stereos for placing calls which can suck really bad if you're moving around during the day. No texts read aloud on my radio will say the number or name because of some issue with the was texts in the US are sent as opposed to international ones.
The G2 works well with the Entune Toyota radios so it looks like you just got screwed with that FJC radio. Those Fj radios have always been kinda outdated and more durable looking if not in function. It's kinda like Wrangler radio systems. They don't want a little mud or water to break em or something.
You could try a work around. You could just toggle Settings >Sound> Message/call voice notifications. It's at the bottom of the Sound page. When it's on its supposed to read the texts for you. If the stereo can pause music during a song to allow navigation commands to be heard it may announce the texts for you. Some radios and phones have problems with that too.
If that works maybe use a shortcut to the Sound settings in an app like Car Home Ultra or use something like Tasker to switch it on when bluetooth connects to your car. That second option would be pretty seamless.

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Yes, they are! That's the main reason for purchasing one; and that it's the last year that they are being sold in the US, so I thought I'd pull the trigger on one.
But, no, I don't have the JBL head unit. I have the stock FJammer unit, but at least it's an upgraded model of those that were being sold in prior years.
I tried that work around when I first got my phone. Didn't work. I've gone through all Google, Google Now and all LG settings that have anything to do with Bluetooth and TTS. The nagivation works, but when it wants to. Sometimes, it will pause music, whether the music is playing through a CD or Bluetooth, and sometimes it won't pause the music, and it's barely audible. Even though I can hear it, it doesn't mean it's working how it should. When I should be hearing, "In a quarter mile, make a left turn at blah blah..." I really end up hearing, "ake left turn at bla..."
I think I'm just gonna live with it. Hopefully there will be a Bluetooth fix for this when LG releases an update.
Thanks for the replies.
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Yes, they are! That's the main reason for purchasing one; and that it's the last year that they are being sold in the US, so I thought I'd pull the trigger on one.
But, no, I don't have the JBL head unit. I have the stock FJammer unit, but at least it's an upgraded model of those that were being sold in prior years.
I tried that work around when I first got my phone. Didn't work. I've gone through all Google, Google Now and all LG settings that have anything to do with Bluetooth and TTS. The nagivation works, but when it wants to. Sometimes, it will pause music, whether the music is playing through a CD or Bluetooth, and sometimes it won't pause the music, and it's barely audible. Even though I can hear it, it doesn't mean it's working how it should. When I should be hearing, "In a quarter mile, make a left turn at blah blah..." I really end up hearing, "ake left turn at bla..."
I think I'm just gonna live with it. Hopefully there will be a Bluetooth fix for this when LG releases an update.
Thanks for the replies.
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Yeah I read about it being the last year. If I had it to burn I'd buy one and import a 2014 rereleased 70 Land Cruiser.
Damn that sucks. My Nexus 4 wouldn't make those pauses in music or other audio apps for navigation at all. It really sucked after having it with HTC and Samsung phones for a few years.
There's always those Jabra Freeway & Tour units. Not the best builtin option but a lot cheaper than an upgrade of radio. In my experience counting on a manufacturer fix for stuff like that hasn't worked out for me. That's why I am cancelling my Sprint account this week. I got stuck with a phone that wouldn't work and they wouldn't cut me any slack at all. It's probably because I just moved over from T-Mo.
I hope it works when ATT finally updates us. Rock climbing in that FJ should take your mind off things.
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Yeah I read about it being the last year. If I had it to burn I'd buy one and import a 2014 rereleased 70 Land Cruiser.
Damn that sucks. My Nexus 4 wouldn't make those pauses in music or other audio apps for navigation at all. It really sucked after having it with HTC and Samsung phones for a few years.
There's always those Jabra Freeway & Tour units. Not the best builtin option but a lot cheaper than an upgrade of radio. In my experience counting on a manufacturer fix for stuff like that hasn't worked out for me. That's why I am cancelling my Sprint account this week. I got stuck with a phone that wouldn't work and they wouldn't cut me any slack at all. It's probably because I just moved over from T-Mo.
I hope it works when ATT finally updates us. Rock climbing in that FJ should take your mind off things.
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It's a damn blast!! Sucks it's my daily driver; I want to mod it out more and more. Thanks for the help. If I ever get this resolved I'll let you know.

Question Which UIS7862 unit should I buy?

Im looking to get a new head unit for my car (Corsa D 1.2 2009), and was planning on getting the Teyes CC3. I then found out through this forum and elsewhere that its essentially just being resold? I then found other units like the Mekede M6 Pro, etc. Im not sure which one to get, does anyone have any suggestions? Or information that can help me decide between all of the UIS7862 out there?
Im leaning towards the Teyes even if it is slightly more expensive, as ive heard good things about their support and firmware updates.
But ive seen units for £180 (6+128gb) with better spec than the teyes at £250 (3+32gb)!
I mainly want good audio (so a good DSP and AMP chip), and i want polished looking software and not having to deal with the android stock menus as much.
For someone in the UK, what are peoples suggestions?
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Gershy13
Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
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Mekede M6 Pro (Youtube, another UK guy like you). Personally I would never buy a T'eyes. Too much closed source and paid software.
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Thanks,
Would you be able to tell me what the main differences between going with teyes and their closed apps (some examples of why theyre worse) compared to something that isnt locked down? Like mekede or anything else.
Another one i found is OSSURET? I was thinking of the S8
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004870713836.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.27a42034V35IGh&algo_pvid=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c&algo_exp_id=bd602265-4596-42b3-a13b-f1fa8a31ac3c-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000030828861416%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21GBP%21168.28%2184.14%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a187b16722620012128392e6e8f%2112000030828861416%21sea&curPageLogUid=f8YkC5oOv6ja
It seems to have a slightly higher clocked processor too. And for the same price as the mekede i can get maxed storage and ram. Thoughts?
Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
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Are you planning to listen to FM radio? If you are I advise you to stay away from any FYT based head unit. If not go ahead.
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Curious as to why? But no never planning on using the radio. (Spotify only)
AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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Ahh okay thanks. That's fine I don't mind using WiFi for internet sharing. Or even usb if it's supported.
And yeah no plans to use the radio so we're good.
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AF function (changing frequency of radio station when signal gets too weak to a stronger signal) doesn't work on FYT head-units. If you're in a country that doesn't use DAB this should be a deal breaker.
Wish I knew that before ordering mine, but I didn't even know it was an FYT head unit. xD
Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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are you sure about that, have you tried https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nd-sc9853i-fyt-devices.4387965/#post-86251871
Also, the BLuetooth on these units, comparatively, is very good, with proper BLE support via dual Bluetooth to support things like radar detectors (Valentine One.)
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Yes, I am sure. Go over the thread and Kotix explains it why he can't fix AF.
He made a work around for an user to easily switch between saved frequencies of the same radio station. But this is manual switching that an user needs to do by himself, not automated. This is not optimal when you're driving.
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Also be aware that the Bluetooth pairing functionality is quite unintuitive to work if you plan to share data via bluetooth from your smartphone. It does not connect automatically so you need to connect manually every time.
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My Bluetooth connects immediately every time I enter the car.
I also find FM radio to be excellent using NavRadio+
AF isn't a deal breaker for me. I only have 1 station that jumps between frequencies occasionally (BBC Radio 2) and Kotix workaround is intuitive and easy to use.
The fact that it doesn't affect doesn't mean the issue isn't there.
Bluetooth works well. Bluetooth 2 doesn't. There's the simple work around of automating an wifi hot spot when your phone connects to Bluetooth.
It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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It's true the NavRadio+ is a big improvement but the AF doesn't work at all.
My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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Same here - second phone never connects automatically. Really annoys me because we are two daily users of the car :/
Yeah, I know your pain lol. I suppose the manufacter would need to invest on a better bluetooth chip for two phones to work. I come from a Pioneer with bluetooth from 2008 and it already allowed to pair 2 distint phones at the SAME time!!! And it still works.
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My bluetooth always connects to phone 1 but if you have phone 2 it will not link to it, you have to pair it manually even if it has been conected previously. That's a shame.
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A recent thread addressed this and a reseller replied with a config.txt that seemingly results in the Bluetooth trying the last phone used and failing that trying the next phone in the list.
Does Bluetooth only reconnect to the last device used?
My unit allowed me to pair multiple phones (my wife and daughter also drive) but the Bluetooth system would only reconnect to the last phone used. So if I drove the car last, and then my wife drives, it won't connect to her phone without manually...
forum.xda-developers.com
I can see a few lines that might be relevant but I've no idea what the secret sauce is to change the behaviour.
Backup your current config.txt and give a few of them a try if you're confident.
Lines I can see that "might" relate to Bluetooth pairing...
ro.build.go_lasttop=true
sys.fyt.bluetooth_show_voice=true
persist.btpair.ssp=1
persist.fyt.enablebtvoice=true
persist.btautoconnect.count=3
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Hum... thats interesting stuff. Thanks. I'll do a little more digging and give it a try if I discard the chance of bricking something.
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