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So at this point I would like to think that I am no stranger to Android development, however, as I move into the world of ROMs this is clearly not the case. I have had a number of people suggest that as part of the Seven+ Project we developer a WP7/ Metro UI ROM. I think that is a great idea, but just do not know where to begin.
With that said I would like people's feedback on the following:
Would you use such a ROM?
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
What ROM/ source should it be based off of?
What is preferable, open or closed source?
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
With the unimaginable success of MIUI it has come to my intention that open source may not also be the way to go. Also, I would like to reach as many devices as possible but am not sure how. Basically, I am no ROM maker and that is why I really need people's feedback. This could be the next major ROM, or a novelty that few if any find valuable. So please, let me know what you think and who knows, perhaps we can get started on a ROM!
- Tom
http://sevenplusandroid.org
Founder and Developer
I'd use it,
I would like to see integration into social networks
maybe based on CyanogenMod, that way it may be easier to port to lots of devices?
Open source would be nice too
I would certainly try out the rom, I mean it would be a brand new experience. Now I would expect a full WP7 experience and with the innovations of Android (Take a look at HTC Sense, You can get some ideas what people like there). I agree this should be based off of Cyanogenmod. It has a large user base and should be easier to port from device to device. I tend to disagree with your view of closed sourced is better. Sure MIUI has been successful but it's no where near where it could of been if it was open, and also don't forget it's also based off cyanogenmod which is open sourced which allowed such creations as MIUI to be made. Open sourced allows software to become better and having it closed source just limits the rom. I don't have many if any skills for developing a rom, but if you needed testers I would be glad to help.
Would you use such a ROM?
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Definitely, I thought about even making one but lots of the items are paid for items and it's against XDA rules to add pay-for items into a ROM.
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
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Launcher, Status Bar (Native, not an app), contacts, phone, framework-res mods (so the WP7 look is universal, and not just limited to the app alone), WP7 style texting app, keyboard, Lockscreen, and more.
What ROM/ source should it be based off of?
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Cyanogenmod 7. However with MIUI's theme engine it would be a better choice, but then it would be more of a theme and less of a ROM. Also you might have issues if you're using the status bar + app, since for some reason, it appears under MIUI's status bar.
What is preferable, open or closed source?
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Anything Windows styled shall remain closed source, while Android itself remains open source.
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
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Sure, depending on the circumstances. Could simply port to myTouch 4G from DHD, or G2 (or it can be the other way around) and have a synchronized release.. or other options.
My 2 Cents.
Very Good!
Yes Please! WP7 with google apps? Who doesn't want that?
So it seems that either only people interested in such a ROM found this forum post and replied, or people really do want a Metro UI ROM.
The closed/ open source issue is one we could ultimately decide on in the future, but making the UI open source would essentially eliminate the profitability of my work, and if the absolutely impossible were to occur and M$ realizes that Android could be a better Metro UI platform than WP7 should it be open source it would simply become theirs.
As for framework modifications that is certainly my intent. There is no reason TabHost could not be replaced with a Pivot control, use the same API perhaps with a custom XML namespace for additional control, and simply ignore the icons. Much of the same goes for menus and contextual menus. Other features like Panoramic controls would be additional features that would need to be explitictly used.
Now the suite of applications is important, and likely leads to a potential profit area. The ROM could be on XDA because it would be free, and for a fee all applications could be unlocked to become the full featured version. I certainly think CM would be a great base because of its broad compatibility. Otherwise thanks everyone for the feedback, I hope to get more soon.
- Tom
Founder and Developer
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I would use it if made compatible with my Samsung Admire.
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I would use it. I was waiting for this.
Samsung Epic 4G.
Id' love this
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Being completely honest here, but no, I wouldn't use it no matter how good it was.
The simple reason being that I really don't like that people keep trying to emulate the look and feel of OTHER mobile OS's in Android. What's wrong with Android's OWN look and feel? We should be trying to make THAT stand out as much as possible, not pretend to be the competition!
marcos.lennis said:
I would use it if made compatible with my Samsung Admire.
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+1 too right mate, Samsung admire rocks if you have wifi and I would love to see this phone get this rom
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I would definitely use it!
I would definitely use it! I feel like it's very important though that it has the feel of your UI demo App. With the notifications being the same access color and coming from the top. Pop-up 7 just doesn't really cut it when it comes to that. The variable alphas and low res buttons make it seem quickly put together. That being said I've been wondering for a while when/how you were planning on putting together/implementing a rom that had ALL of the components together and meshing well. I'm really excited to see this and will be checking back often (if not daily). Thanks for all your good work!
I would use it! if it's compatible with HTC wildfire, nobody work on ldpi device neither roms nor themes, only cm give somenthing compatible for us, an alternative would be appreciated, especially if it is somenthing light such as the wp7 ui
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Being completely honest here, but no, I wouldn't use it no matter how good it was.
The simple reason being that I really don't like that people keep trying to emulate the look and feel of OTHER mobile OS's in Android. What's wrong with Android's OWN look and feel? We should be trying to make THAT stand out as much as possible, not pretend to be the competition!
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Why? It is simple: Android has a terrible user experience and from the looks of things (Honeycomb, ICS leak) it is not getting any better. That, and who even gets to see Android anymore? Carriers even with Honeycomb slab their UI and suite on top of Android to the point were frankly it no longer is Android.
I guess then the question is why make a WP7 ROM. Well the Metro UI is simple and effective, not to mention it could be easily done more performant than other (cough, Sense) UIs. Also, I have a great deal of code for Android that can give it that look and feel.
While a suite of applications is great it does not cut it. There is simply too much that can only be done as a ROM. Lately Android has been becoming more closed (no HC source, removal of APIs and permissions from the SDK), so before its too late I should think most would be happy that they get the best of both worlds: Android has a large application catalog and WP7 a great UI.
Just my though process, and if I can find developers to collaborate with I would love to begin a fork of CM7 for this ROM.
- Tom
Founder and Developer
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Why? It is simple: Android has a terrible user experience and from the looks of things (Honeycomb, ICS leak) it is not getting any better. That, and who even gets to see Android anymore? Carriers even with Honeycomb slab their UI and suite on top of Android to the point were frankly it no longer is Android.
I guess then the question is why make a WP7 ROM. Well the Metro UI is simple and effective, not to mention it could be easily done more performant than other (cough, Sense) UIs. Also, I have a great deal of code for Android that can give it that look and feel.
While a suite of applications is great it does not cut it. There is simply too much that can only be done as a ROM. Lately Android has been becoming more closed (no HC source, removal of APIs and permissions from the SDK), so before its too late I should think most would be happy that they get the best of both worlds: Android has a large application catalog and WP7 a great UI.
Just my though process, and if I can find developers to collaborate with I would love to begin a fork of CM7 for this ROM.
- Tom
Founder and Developer
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i would definitely like to help on this ROM, and I totally agree cyanogen should be used as a base.
but, it wouldn't be that hard to compile everything on top of cyanogen, but building the replacing apks is a lot harder. for those, I should knock on the door from the devs from www.wp7android.com they have already a great start with several applications. And maybe they are interested too in creating a ROM.
So if you would like to let me join you, you got your chef for the desire s.
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And because I don't know everything, I'd learn from this too.
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djpbx said:
i would definitely like to help on this ROM, and I totally agree cyanogen should be used as a base.
but, it wouldn't be that hard to compile everything on top of cyanogen, but building the replacing apks is a lot harder. for those, I should knock on the door from the devs from www.wp7android.com they have already a great start with several applications. And maybe they are interested too in creating a ROM.
So if you would like to let me join you, you got your chef for the desire s.
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And because I don't know everything, I'd learn from this too.
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Most of the devs in Seven+ project are from Wp7android.com which kinda collasped as far as I can see
A WP7 Rom would be great. I would use it. CM7 is probably the best AOSP platform to adapt, imho.
Would you use such a ROM?
Of course
What features would you expect in such a ROM?
Speed and less CPU consumption.
What ROM/source should it be based off of?
Nexus Prime or Sony Arc S
What is preferable, open or closed source?
Open Source
Would you be interested in working on a ROM?
I try my best to give suggestion or design a few things for it.
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If you are looking for developer, there are plenty to be listed bro.
People,
If you don't know yet, TeamBBQ is the people behind a numerous Android initiatives that now brings one more hot stuff for you:
A fresh brand new hot and awesome CM changelog with improved features and way more acurrate then the changelog you are used too since we fetch changes straight from GIT not from Gerrit. It really shows all the changes.
We kindly present to you, BBQLog:
http://changelog.bbqdroid.org
BBQLog Android app coming soon.
xplodwild, nebkat, chadouming and others worked hard on this one. You gonna luv it!
Important: TeamBBQ and it's products are nowhere affiliated with CyanogenMod.
*****[UPDATE 16/06/2012]*****
Well people, TeamBBQ has been silently working for a while since we released BBQLog. We are far away from been sleeping. We are doing our best to bring you the best tools around and thats why you gonna hear a lot about us from now on. So it comes the time we brake the silence a bit and thank you all.
We proud to announce that on June 15th BBQlog has reached 1 million page views. Thats a very important milestone for us. It points out that we are reaching our goals. We are managing to bring you the best xperience and you are feeding us back by using our tool. And you are using it a lot. If my memory doesnt fails we started on may 22th so its a lot achieved on a short time. Thank you all very much. I speak for the whole BBQ team. Xplodwild, Nebkat, Chadouming, Datagutt and all other contributors. We all happy for how this whole thing is going, for the community feedback and for what we will bring to you on sometime ahead.
To thanks to all the users that have been supporting us we are doing something special today. TeamBBQ is proud to bring you today the BBQLog Android App. Enjoy you all. Its a very initial release with basic functionality so expect updates with new features very soon. Thanks again.
TeamBBQ
BBQLog App - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm9yZy5iYnFkcm9pZC5sb2ciXQ..
*****[UPDATE 14/09/2012]*****
Ohai everybody!
During last night BBQLog has gone through a massive internal update. Team has done serious improvements in our interfaces with github and we are very proud of the results. In fact, where we used to take 15 minutes to fetch and know if there was changes on all the 1100 repos for cyanogenmod project, we managed to achieve an amazing drop down to just 2 minutes. This was a legendary non precedent work by TeamBBQ awesome devs.
Also, we are more precise than never on filtering the repos by device and project. This means that now is very unlikely to find out a change list for your device that is not supposed to be there. Translations are filtered too, so no more of them flooding the list. You can have them back if you want on the very bottom of the page. Finally there was a gazillion minor optimizations and code cleaning.
We really hope you enjoy this new era and i want to warn you all to stay tunned cause this is just a preparation for even bigger steps by TeamBBQ. There is more to come cause we are here to stay.
As usual, feel free to report bugs and comment.
Cheers,
TeamBBQ.
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Stay in touch for other TeamBBQ releases.
- OpenDesign (http://opendesign.bbqdroid.org)
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Looks great.
Seems like changing the CM Version always reverts back to CM9 after clicking on another link. Maybe thats intended.
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Looks great.
Seems like changing the CM Version always reverts back to CM9 after clicking on another link. Maybe thats intended.
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Thanks for the report, the bug is being adressed!
Shouldn't changes made to CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210 also show up in the Galaxy S 2 changelog?
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Shouldn't changes made to CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210 also show up in the Galaxy S 2 changelog?
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The changelog is updated every hours. So wait a little bit
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Shouldn't changes made to CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210 also show up in the Galaxy S 2 changelog?
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There was a problem this repo was not synced. Its fixed now. Enjoy.
CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210 is shown for Galaxy S (and some other Samsung devices which are not Galaxy S II ).
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CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_smdk4210 is shown for Galaxy S (and some other Samsung devices which are not Galaxy S II ).
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Only device trees are filtered for now, not kernels. We're going to fix this in the next hours
I hope it will be better than the old stuff because yahoo api kept crashing all day long
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I hope it will be better than the old stuff because yahoo api kept crashing all day long
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we will not crash.
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Looks great, some inprovements and it will hopefully be a more stable alternative to the Yahoo API.
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Looks great, some inprovements and it will hopefully be a more stable alternative to the Yahoo API.
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What kind of improvements?
Very nice, already adopt it.
Nice to see French Guy in this project
F.
It's great
Thnaks.
But the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v (p3) is missing
Grat job.
Droid 3 is not on drop-down list.
android_device_samsung_aries-common is missing for galaxy s devices in devices.xml (not sure what exactly are the devices it's used for, galaxysmtd and galaxysbmtd are definitly there)
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Droid 3 is not on drop-down list.
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http://get.cm/
It is not there either. No nightly = no changelog.
XlAfbk said:
android_device_samsung_aries-common is missing for galaxy s devices in devices.xml (not sure what exactly are the devices it's used for, galaxysmtd and galaxysbmtd are definitly there)
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Going to add it.
Is there a way to show multiple days at once? I kind of liked to see the changes from previous days to compare them with the current ones.
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http://get.cm/
It is not there either. No nightly = no changelog.
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Thanks, I guess the CM9 on the Droid 3 is not official then.
Great job, thanks very much for this.
Request, please: would you consider indicating the timezone when times are printed, e.g. MERGED, Built, etc?
thanks much indeed.
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Should CyanogenMod/android_dalvik project also be included?
Since I can't post to the dev thread, I'm forced to post it here.
Latest version - JellyBelly Omega-Total Customization-CM10 (unofficial)[Updated 1/28/13]
No Flash or Flash is broken - tested using w w w .adobe.com/products/about-flash.html
Voice Search crashes out of the box. Had to do an update from the market to get it to work.
Wifi throughput is poor. Using the prior release, I could easily get 20mbit, now I can't get over 5mbit.
I read through the entire thread, and didn't see this...
Would like to request the modified contactsprovider.apk be included. I know I can do it myself, but would be nice if it worked out of the box.
There was one more thing, but it slipped my mind now. I reverted to MikShiftedG for usability. This thing is so close, it hurts!!
If I missed anything... kindly let me know. That was a very long thread to read over. I do appreciate the work that has been done so far!
Modified contacts thread is here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064859
headcronie said:
Since I can't post to the dev thread, I'm forced to post it here.
Latest version - JellyBelly Omega-Total Customization-CM10 (unofficial)[Updated 1/28/13]
No Flash or Flash is broken - tested using w w w .adobe.com/products/about-flash.html
Voice Search crashes out of the box. Had to do an update from the market to get it to work.
Wifi throughput is poor. Using the prior release, I could easily get 20mbit, now I can't get over 5mbit.
I read through the entire thread, and didn't see this...
Would like to request the modified contactsprovider.apk be included. I know I can do it myself, but would be nice if it worked out of the box.
There was one more thing, but it slipped my mind now. I reverted to MikShiftedG for usability. This thing is so close, it hurts!!
If I missed anything... kindly let me know. That was a very long thread to read over. I do appreciate the work that has been done so far!
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Flash doesn't work unless you side load the apk and a compatible version of a web browser
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headcronie said:
Since I can't post to the dev thread, I'm forced to post it here.
Latest version - JellyBelly Omega-Total Customization-CM10 (unofficial)[Updated 1/28/13]
No Flash or Flash is broken - tested using w w w .adobe.com/products/about-flash.html
Voice Search crashes out of the box. Had to do an update from the market to get it to work.
Wifi throughput is poor. Using the prior release, I could easily get 20mbit, now I can't get over 5mbit.
I read through the entire thread, and didn't see this...
Would like to request the modified contactsprovider.apk be included. I know I can do it myself, but would be nice if it worked out of the box.
There was one more thing, but it slipped my mind now. I reverted to MikShiftedG for usability. This thing is so close, it hurts!!
If I missed anything... kindly let me know. That was a very long thread to read over. I do appreciate the work that has been done so far!
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It might help to install adobe flash if you want flash. I included it in v6 but left it out here because we stripped it down as much as possible. I did absolutely nothing that would effect WiFi from the previous version. If anything it should be faster. Did you flash the patch?
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headcronie said:
Modified contacts thread is here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064859
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That is for cm10.1 (JB 4.2.1) this ROM is cm10 (JB 4.1.2)
Odd. I used that patched file and it works. . Did not get to the patch. Will try later tonight after darts league.
Thanks for the info. Was going off what I read in your OP. Didn't see that Flash got stripped out, or my memory buffers dumped that info.
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Flash doesn't work unless you side load the apk and a compatible version of a web browser
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Yeah, i figured that. I use Dolphin which still supports it.
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Feeling like a dolt. While I was running the same speed test on my home computers, I forgot to set the speed test location. As soon as I set them both to the same location, I got over 20mbit again. Terribly sorry about that.
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It might help to install adobe flash if you want flash. I included it in v6 but left it out here because we stripped it down as much as possible. I did absolutely nothing that would effect WiFi from the previous version. If anything it should be faster. Did you flash the patch?
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That is for cm10.1 (JB 4.2.1) this ROM is cm10 (JB 4.1.2)
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I'm 99% sure this is the file I used, and it worked on my device, and sync'd my contacts photos, phone, etc.
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Feeling like a dolt. While I was running the same speed test on my home computers, I forgot to set the speed test location. As soon as I set them both to the same location, I got over 20mbit again. Terribly sorry about that.
I'm 99% sure this is the file I used, and it worked on my device, and sync'd my contacts photos, phone, etc.
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I didn't test it, just noticed it said cm10.1 at the top. Not saying it doesn't work, but it might not work for everybody... Those are the kind of things you gotta think about when putting together a ROM. You want to use the most stable stuff so you don't have to tell people how to fix this and that all day long. But glad you got most of it sorted out. I think we got all your problems covered. BTW Flash is not actually included in any JB ROM (without the dev putting it in there) because it was dropped in favor of HTML5 (Thank the iTurd). I put it in previous versions cuz I know a lot of people still use it... But it is a bit of a space hog. You should be getting close to your ten posts now tho.
Yes, you did. I'm foaming at the mouth at the idea of having this run full time. I really love it!
My work environment uses flash heavily, thus I still have continuing need for it. The installation of Flash shouldn't cause a general slowdown of the device though, just to make sure?
One last question then. Is there a recommended contactsprovider apk for CM 10, or more specifically one that will work with your build?
Sorry for being noobish. I understand the basics and some advanced stuff, but all the naming conventions and numbering schemes kinda messes me up.
Thanks for being responsive to my questions! As someone who hasn't a clue to what it takes to build one of these, I'm sure my suggestions and comments can seem naive. I don't mean them to be tho!
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Yes, you did. I'm foaming at the mouth at the idea of having this run full time. I really love it!
My work environment uses flash heavily, thus I still have continuing need for it. The installation of Flash shouldn't cause a general slowdown of the device though, just to make sure?
One last question then. Is there a recommended contactsprovider apk for CM 10, or more specifically one that will work with your build?
Sorry for being noobish. I understand the basics and some advanced stuff, but all the naming conventions and numbering schemes kinda messes me up.
Thanks for being responsive to my questions! As someone who hasn't a clue to what it takes to build one of these, I'm sure my suggestions and comments can seem naive. I don't mean them to be tho!
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I would rather you learn than keep asking the same things over and over.
Here is something to help you out with the naming conventions:
Sense is the UI your phone shipped with. AOSP (Android Open Source Project) is what JellyBelly is. Most AOSP ROMs are based on one of a few different works. CyanogenMod (CM) is one of them. AOKP and Evervolv are a few others. AOSP is stripped of any of the phone manufacturers UIs (Touchwiz, Sense, MotoBlur, LG UI, etc). Basically what the Nexus phones are shipped with. Although the UIs can be added back in to an extent when making a ROM. For example I made a MotoBlur ICS ROM for the Shift from AOSP.
CM7=2.3 or GingerBread. CM9=4.0 or Ice Cream Sandwich. CM10=4.1 or Jelly Bean. CM10.1=4.2 which is the newest, most current version of Jelly Bean from the Nexus 4.
No flash shouldn't cause any slowdown, like I said I just removed it for space. And for the contactsprovider.apk, no i don't have a recommendation but if that other one works for you... Go with it! It's your ROM, set it up how you want... That was kinda the theme of Omega... To give the maximum amount of control and options to the user. hope all this helps.
Here's a link that I have referred to quite often: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod After your read about halfway through the article, under 'Version history', click 'expand' to see a very handy reference table. Using this, you can narrow down the flashable ROMs to certain Android/CM versions.
....and the last of the group I have been working on....
P.A.C. - Man ROM v22.4.0 &v23.0.0 {HALO}Based off of Jellybean 4.2.2
for the HTC One S from source...brought to you by atrus5
ported to the MyTouch 4G Slide....brought to you by WeekendsR2Short
Paranoid + AOKP + CyanogenMod = PACman
Features• based off of AOSP Jellybean 4.2.2
• latest CM10.1
•latest AOKP
• latest AOSPA (ParanoidAndroid 3.1+)
• all settings from CyanogenMod 10.1, Android Open Kang Project MR1, and AOSPA 2.99+
• PIE navigation controls
• Hybrid Settings
• Per-App Layout
• Per-App Color
• OTA updates
• much more...flash and find outHow to InstallSURELY By Now, You Know How
Check One of My ROMs, Or Go Ask Your MomSpecial Thanks Credit to darknites for headphone fix
Credit to LLegoLLaS for the logo
rmbq for his Bubba Kernel v3.6b
szl.kiev, OldDroid and Team
CyanogenMod Team
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ParanoidAndroid TeamVERY Special Thanks....To Atrus5 For His Help In My Aquiring Permission From The Original Developers To Bring This ROM To The DoubleShot
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PacMan v22.4.0GappsPacMan v23.0.0 + {HALO}
...for Justin Kase
The porting machine at his best, eh. This ROM looks so exquisite. Downloading, right, now!
Edit: Lagging frequently, encountering FCs here and there. I guess my phone does not like it as much as I do. But still, great work!
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The porting machine at his best, eh. This ROM looks so exquisite. Downloading, right, now!
Edit: Lagging frequently, encountering FCs here and there. I guess my phone does not like it as much as I do. But still, great work!
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You might install Kernel Tuner & Seeder & once set up she gets REALLY smooth. Also, once I flash Gapps I will go to advanced & wipe Dalvik & set permissions before booting back up. It's always seemed to help tame a rambunctious ROM.
Something else I discovered a couple of ROMs ago is Deep Sleep Battery Saver. I installed it & set it to "Aggressive" & am sitting on 67% at 16 hours with about an hour screen time & an hour phone calls. It DOES work & make a difference.
Porting Machine? LOL :laugh:
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You might install Kernel Tuner & Seeder & once set up she gets REALLY smooth. Also, once I flash Gapps I will go to advanced & wipe Dalvik & set permissions before booting back up. It's always seemed to help tame a rambunctious ROM.
Something else I discovered a couple of ROMs ago is Deep Sleep Battery Saver. I installed it & set it to "Aggressive" & am sitting on 67% at 16 hours with about an hour screen time & an hour phone calls. It DOES work & make a difference.
Porting Machine? LOL :laugh:
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Hmmm didn't know about deep sleep I'll go check that out cause even on my anker I don't be getting those awesome stats like some people on here get.... Then again I do play ff8 a lot on the epsxe emulator
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butch87402 said:
Hmmm didn't know about deep sleep I'll go check that out cause even on my anker I don't be getting those awesome stats like some people on here get.... Then again I do play ff8 a lot on the epsxe emulator
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Now I'll admit I play very few games but I think you'll still be pleased with it.
Its nice to see pacman got an update.
I swear one of these days I don't have much going on I'm gonna sync and source build a thing or two. But my time is so limited right now.
I almost had sabermod built but said something about missing the makefile and then I got busy so I just trashed that source so I didn't have any hiccups building for the N4.
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Strapped, that is the very one I ALMOST installed on the wife's Nexus Sunday. But I opted for RootBox at the last minute since it was several versions further along than the one I ported. You're going to have to teach me a few things about building from source too. I've decided to take my desktop & make it a dedicated build server here REAL soon. It can sit in the bedroom & compile away while I'm messing with the laptop.
How's the kernel experimentation been going?
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Strapped, that is the very one I ALMOST installed on the wife's Nexus Sunday. But I opted for RootBox at the last minute since it was several versions further along than the one I ported. You're going to have to teach me a few things about building from source too. I've decided to take my desktop & make it a dedicated build server here REAL soon. It can sit in the bedroom & compile away while I'm messing with the laptop.
How's the kernel experimentation been going?
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Well SaberMOD is one of the top optimized ROMs we mako users have, along with sparksco kernel, so usually what I do is just cherry-pick stuff in and compile his kernel with whatever it is I kang elsewhere lol.
Some of the recent cherry-picks broke the compile so I got to keep at it because its adding options visible to the user without interfering with how the kernel performs.
I'm almost out of room on the partition I installed Ubuntu on, so I'm thinking of trying to run it from one of them 1TB portable drives, and never worry again.
Building JellyBean takes a lot of space, hell the source alone is like 10-12GB to download, then there is something about needing 80GB for a set of builds ( I'm guessing multiple devices ) blah blah.
Right now sparksco has blessed us with absolutely everything needed to build, right down to build scripts that you just run, choose a couple options then build.
I mostly find myself just flipping through the source though, looking at the massive amounts of files and trying to get an understanding of how source is structured in terms of where -X- file is located for SystemUI before its built so I can edit source level. Starting small with what's already there and hopefully I can learn way more in the process
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Good Grief it takes a lot of system just to start! I DO have plenty of HD space on the desktop though. I'm going to have to do some research & get more involved VERY soon myself. But at the moment I'm tinkering around with a flashing tool I was given the idea for. I believe it's going to be pretty cool....eventually. LMAO
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The porting machine at his best, eh. ...
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Well put, abe5!
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Hey, Weekends, thanks for another yummy one!
I've got two other family phones on different versions of PacMan, but this one is even better! I'm having a great time playing with it. I love the "Permissions" menu in "settings," for one.
Sorry to ask, but could you help me find how to turn on the navbar? I found a lot of navbar settings, but there's no "Enable Bar" check box/button/radio.
I also found a problem that probably dates back a long time. At least I remember having it in ROMs I tried a long time ago: "Settings > Storage" FCs. I believe there was no cure, but there were workarounds.
I haven't loaded it up with all the apps I usually do, but so far it's great. After wiping, fixing permissions, booting between flashes, etc., I've had no problems at all.
Again, THANK YOU!
(I'm also having a heck of a time reading the small fonts on the settings menus. But, then again, that's why God invented optometrists!)
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strapped365 said:
Its nice to see pacman got an update....
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Hey Strapped, good to hear from you!
It's been a while.
LOL! ME TOO! My eyes aren't as young as they used to be and that about the only thing I DON'T like about the Paranoid side of PACMan. I set my font to huge & just grin and bear it bro. You can get some bigger in the apps by tinkering with the dpi but the internal functions seem to be a bit different since the default is a tablet format. I COULD be wrong though But am still playing around with it too.
As the Storage function goes, I've always written that one off as one of the things that AOPK & CM10.1 can't agree on & they just say the heck with it. If you CAN find a workaround...or if I do...Let's please share it & I'll serve it up in the OP.
Let me check on the NavBar thing.....
After taking an in depth look myself, I can't find it either Jesterfell. But it could be that it just wasn't put in there because it conflicted somehow with pie. It DOES work really well in this one so you might just use that as your replacement. I COULD make you a flashable fix that will put that line of code into build.prop that activates the NavBar. OR, you could add it yourself. Your call buddy....just let me know.
Tried this ROM today
Gotta say, i dont like that side of paranoid too xD
Well, besides that i personally didnt find any glitches so far, but somehow i dont like the ROM itselve at all :/
Thanks for the port though, could take a peek xD
Back to your samsung port
Maybe in some weeks ill try sense again but till then, either its your new ports if you make some, or your samsung port
Greets Vauvenal7
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... about the only thing I DON'T like about the Paranoid side of PACMan...
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Same here! Love all the settings, but sometimes just can't read them to know WHAT I'm setting! With Paranoid, I always found that when I improved the readability of settings, I distorted something else.
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... it could be that it just wasn't put in there because it conflicted somehow with pie. It DOES work really well in this one so you might just use that as your replacement ...
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Now that you mention it, I do remember reading that PIE had to be turned off for the navbar to work. I didn't find a way to do that either--probably a compromise choice had to be made to leave both settings out.
Embarrassingly, I forget PIE is there, LOL! Another problem is that, after a while of use, I somehow managed to get it to rotate counterclockwise just enough so that the "BACK" button is off the screen. I don't think that should even be possible!?
Then again, I did manage to turn OFF the search button in pie by checking the settings box as if I wanted to turn it ON!
I did remember an old workaround that's doing the job for now: I re-mapped the "SEARCH" hard key as another "BACK" key.
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... I COULD make you a flashable fix that will put that line of code into build.prop that activates the NavBar. OR, you could add it yourself. Your call buddy....just let me know.
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Thanks, Weekends. I appreciate the offer.
I tried the "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" line, but it didn't do anything. Is there another mod for navbar?
Like I said, though, it's still too much fun to put down--especially now that I've got my wife's phone to play with. That still leaves mine as the DD!
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...As the Storage function goes, I've always written that one off as one of the things that AOPK & CM10.1 can't agree on & they just say the heck with it. If you CAN find a workaround...or if I do...Let's please share it & I'll serve it up in the OP....
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I can't find my notes on it, but thinking back on it, I don't think there was a real workaround. It was just a way to turn on USB storage by tapping the "USB connected" bar in notifications, and choosing storage there.
Now I can't even find a "USB connected" notification! There's a debugging notice, but no connected one... I really have to learn to stop changing things BEFORE I break something!
Which clock app does this one have? I love the one on all of the other apps and was a bit disappointed this one didn't have the one I'm used to. Can anyone post a screenshot?
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Which clock app does this one have? I love the one on all of the other apps and was a bit disappointed this one didn't have the one I'm used to. Can anyone post a screenshot?
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I'd say you could download the one you like best. The "cLock" one is the one that comes with it (see 1st screenshot) The others are from "one more clock" which I downloaded. But they just scratch the surface of the over 30 that you can choose from.
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I'd say you could download the one you like best. The "cLock" one is the one that comes with it (see 1st screenshot) The others are from "one more clock" which I downloaded. But they just scratch the surface of the over 30 that you can choose from.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I meant the Android Clock/Alarm app, not the widgets. You know where you set your alarms...
Looks like the same one that I've been used to seeing Rory.
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Looks like the same one that I've been used to seeing Rory.
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Oh excellent! That wasn't in the last version for whatever reason. How about the option to add a little AM/PM to the clock on the notification bar. Yes, I am neurotic!
Hi everyone,
Another heads up with respect to a Mi A1 project -- one which will be of special interest to the webOS refugees among us.
The LuneOS project has just announced that the Mi A1 is their new target device. You can read all about it over at PivotCE: https://pivotce.com/2018/11/28/luneos-november-stable-release-doppio/
The LuneOS project is an effort to create an open-source webOS distribution for smartphones (and possibly other devices). It has recently received a major helping hand from LG, which has open sourced a lot of new webOS code developed for their smart TVs. That being said, LuneOS is not suitable for everyday use. There's a lot left to do and the project is run entirely by a group of volunteers who don't do timelines. So don't ask them when it will be ready!
What I really love about this decision is that they were looking for an inexpensive development device to replace the Nexus 4. That's exactly why I bought my Mi A1 -- and I think it's shaping up to be next in the line of great development targets, like the HTC HD2 and the Nexus 4. I couldn't be happier about that.
Yep, very interesting os
But can u give me link for the install tutorial
Coz i saw only for nexus phones, not for our
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Yep, very interesting os
But can u give me link for the install tutorial
Coz i saw only for nexus phones, not for our
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Yeah, they haven't posted the instructions on the wiki yet. But Herrie posted a set of basic steps over on webOS Nation: https://forums.webosnation.com/lune...vember-stable-release-doppio.html#post3454659
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Yeah, they haven't posted the instructions on the wiki yet. But Herrie posted a set of basic steps over on webOS Nation: https://forums.webosnation.com/lune...vember-stable-release-doppio.html#post3454659
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Aww, ye
Last evening i was trying to flash like this tutorial, but i used as base Pie and Oreo
Not working, black screen
Will wait
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Not working, black screen
Will wait
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Have you had any success yet? Oh, and nice to see a new face at webOS Nation. That's a rare thing these days!
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Have you had any success yet? Oh, and nice to see a new face at webOS Nation. That's a rare thing these days!
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Maybe this is was trouble in 3.2.3 twrp, trying now with 3.1.1
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Booted for now~~
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Works:
Wifi
Bluetooth
System not crashing
All smooth as far as I tested
Bugs:
RIL
Calls
Keyboard
Camera
Maybe more
bad that RIL and calls not working
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Works:
Wifi
Bluetooth
System not crashing
All smooth as far as I tested
Bugs:
RIL
Calls
Keyboard
Camera
Maybe more
bad that RIL and calls not working
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Bad? It's a project in development. As I mentioned, it's not suitable for everyday use and there's still a lot to do.
But the RIL and calling not working is a regression. Both used to work on the Nexus 4. The regression is likely the result of adopting a new device and the recent work to integrate with the Halium project. That's just me speculating, though.
Thanks for providing the test results. I'm looking forward to giving it a go and seeing what does and doesn't work at this point (and which of the old webOS apps I can install, etc.).
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Bad? It's a project in development. As I mentioned, it's not suitable for everyday use and there's still a lot to do.
But the RIL and calling not working is a regression. Both used to work on the Nexus 4. The regression is likely the result of adopting a new device and the recent work to integrate with the Halium project. That's just me speculating, though.
Thanks for providing the test results. I'm looking forward to giving it a go and seeing what does and doesn't work at this point (and which of the old webOS apps I can install, etc.).
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yep, i think we need some roms like web os and sailfish to port, because android is good, but any other os is better
just for new experience
Installation
Hello,
I would like to test LuneOS on my Mi A1 but don't succeed in installing it.
Which stock ROM (7.1.2, there are quite a few) do I have to flash, and where can I obtain a working TWRP bootable with this stock rom?
I'm somehow not able to boot suggested TWRP image with latest 7.1.2 stock rom, maybe you could provide some links?
By the way: Is latest stable update >>stable<< enough to make phone calls and access LTE internet already?
Thank you in advance!