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This thread is actually aimed toward developers and advanced users, but anyone is welcomed to respond. I am curious about which OS is preferred by those that help us all. Overall, windows is more prevalent. But I suspect that a lot of people here use other things.
I will start off. Up until a few weeks ago, I used windows solely. Then I developed an interest in Linux. I just updated my dual booted Win XP/Ubuntu machine today. But, up until a month ago I used a Win7 machine. I still have a lot, and I mean a lot, of learning to do with Linux.
Now, who's next?
Ubuntu, might change with Windows 8 we will see.
I am not amused with your phones performance
Linux
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I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.
flashman2002 said:
I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.
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You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.
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You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.
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That is beyond my scope at the moment.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!
windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...
Pirateghost said:
windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...
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Do you have a computer for each phone?
At the moment I am dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8 Dev Preview but when I get the chance I plan on installing PCLinuxOS when the dev preview is locked out.
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Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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Do you have a computer for each phone?
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LOL....kind of. i got rid of some devices. just down to galaxy s2, captivate, aria, atrix, touchpad, ipad1 -64gb3g, iphone4, oh and i still have a mytouch4g or 2
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Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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b-eock said:
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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thats too much.
3gb video processor?? wtf is that? sounds like nvidia quadro which wont run games the same way a desktop card will.
somebody needs a lesson in PC building 101
I have a netbook with XP ...LOL...
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Captain_Nero said:
Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.
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It was a combination and just a little waiting for the right deals.
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b-eock said:
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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I don't know what you plan on doing with this PC but I'm positive you won't need 16gb of RAM ditch the 3gb video card and get something like a 6970 or a top notch nvidia card. Post the parts in detail you chose and what you will be using the PC for
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I dumped windows a few months ago for Ubuntu. My 6 year old desktop runs Ubuntu 11.10 and my two year old Laptop runs the same thing. I just wish I people would focus on Heimdall than Odin.
I'll use anything but Linux.
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I hear there are quite a few devs that are having frying hard drives, or have slow or old computers in general that take for time.
I was wondering if it would help out some people if I could give them remote access to my custom desktop.
Specs are Intel i7-80, 12 gigs DDR 3 ram, x58 saber tooth motherboard, 64 gig ssd, 1 tb of memory, liquid cooled, gtx 580 graphics card.
It's great for gaming but not sure if it could possibly help individual dev.
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I got my hopes up for nothing as the Charge did not make the list
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/24/samsung-rolling-jelly-bean-toward-most-of-its-smartphone-tablet/
It has already been said that jb and touchwiz would never fit on our system partition.
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I think the bigger issue here besides getting 4.1 is... the mobile market needs to follow the model of the PC for the enduser.
I would be willing to pay some money to upgrade to the next major OS updates for my devices. Whether its my tablets or my phone. I wouldn't mind if I could only get vanilla android either.
It would put the power in the consumers hands. For example, I bought a laptop with windows vista and later upgraded it to windows 7 since my laptop could run it well. I hope someday android is able to do this as well. And sooner rather than later.
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I think the bigger issue here besides getting 4.1 is... the mobile market needs to follow the model of the PC for the enduser.
I would be willing to pay some money to upgrade to the next major OS updates for my devices. Whether its my tablets or my phone. I wouldn't mind if I could only get vanilla android either.
It would put the power in the consumers hands. For example, I bought a laptop with windows vista and later upgraded it to windows 7 since my laptop could run it well. I hope someday android is able to do this as well. And sooner rather than later.
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The problem is that upgrading a phone will never be as straightforward as upgrading a PC. There's no one "Android Operating System" that exists as a general purpose OS. AOSP is the base, but even Google does more work to it before it goes on a Nexus device. Every phone has different hardware, which requires different drivers, and often, different close-source software and libraries, which means that every version of Android is a different embedded OS that is based on core Android. Making it generalized enough to run across the board on all hardware on the market would bloat it. It would make it memory, CPU, and power inefficient. We like to think of our phones as powerful miniature computers, but in reality, they don't even match the processor and memory capabilities of the average netbook. It's only through careful optimizations that it is able to run the way it runs, and you can't just slap a generic version of Android on a device and expect the same results.
Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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bubarub said:
Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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As Shrike said - the phones are too small and don't have the capacity that computers do for memory, disk and processor. Even if they did, the power draw would be excessive. Everything is extremely customized to fit within the phone's tiny footprint.
BTW - every computer has it's own limits with respect to memory and cpu capacity. Yes, you can upgrade, but there is a point of diminishing returns. What's the point of installing the fastest processor if the bus can't handle it? It goes on and on.
Lastly, it will never be in their best interests (profits, new sales) to adopt the computer model. They don't like that you keep a computer for years. They want churn. They want planned obsolescence.
bubarub said:
Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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Impossible? No. Highly impractical? Yes
A computer has enough memory, storage, and processor power that the larger footprint of the "everything and the kitchen sink" model doesn't bog it down the way it would a phone. Just look at storage space alone...when you don't know exactly what hardware you're going to encounter, you have to account for all possibilities. Just the extra storage is going to add tangibly to the cost. Then you have the extra power drain required for the more efficient processors that will be needed to run the more generic OS correctly, and the extra RAM needed to load all of it's parts. A smartphone is a modern example of the classic embedded system. When you have limited resources to work with, your OS has to be more focused, customized, and efficient to work in an acceptable way.
So, yes, it's possible in the broadest sense, but do you want to pay $1500+ for the device that can be upgraded at will and be out of date within 2 years? Or would you rather pay $100-$500 every two years for the latest hardware and OS, at the expense of a more limited upgrade path? Personally, I know where I'll put my money.
Haha good point on that last paragraph! I agree.
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Specs
It doesn't take much to look at the default off the shelf Dell box's specs and compare them to that of any phone. The Intel Core i7 or AMD FX-8150 processors would smoke any ARM on the market for mobiles. Memory in the desktop is 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz. Again crushing the Droid Charge and every other phone. 1TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive, nuff said man won't be there for mobile for a while now. The power consumption would drain your mobiles battery in the time it takes to boot up. Let us also not forget that GHz and GB and TB don't all perform the same across the board. For instance a 1TB parallel ATA drive, 1TB SATA, and 1TB SSD differ vastly in performance. The NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad core, 1.2 GHz, ARM Cortex-A9 processor in the Nexus 7 just doesn't hold a candle to the Intel Core i7-640UM Dual Core 1.2 GHz. It's about more than cores and clock speeds.
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It doesn't take much to look at the default off the shelf Dell box's specs and compare them to that of any phone. The Intel Core i7 or AMD FX-8150 processors would smoke any ARM on the market for mobiles. Memory in the desktop is 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz. Again crushing the Droid Charge and every other phone. 1TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive, nuff said man won't be there for mobile for a while now. The power consumption would drain your mobiles battery in the time it takes to boot up. Let us also not forget that GHz and GB and TB don't all perform the same across the board. For instance a 1TB parallel ATA drive, 1TB SATA, and 1TB SSD differ vastly in performance. The NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad core, 1.2 GHz, ARM Cortex-A9 processor in the Nexus 7 just doesn't hold a candle to the Intel Core i7-640UM Dual Core 1.2 GHz. It's about more than cores and clock speeds.
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I could take the time to pick apart your post and make fun of you, but there isn't any point.
Kind of like your post.
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Time to just give up on JB or ICS for charge. I just upgraded to galaxy nexus. I love it and highly recommend it. Cheers!
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Hey guys, I've been around here for a while, and I've finally decided to try and start compiling and building from source myself. I know that it's possible to develop from there, and I've set up Virtual Box multiple times, but I'm not sure what to assign to it (hardware). As much as I'd like to dual boot my system, my computer was set up to have a dynamic partition, and so sadly it isn't possible to do so.
So here are my main questions:
How many gigabytes of storage do I partition for Virtual Box?
How many cores will I need to assign?
How much RAM do I allow my virtual environment?
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When answering, keep in mind that I will be compiling Jelly Bean.
Hardware Components on my PC
Quad Core 2nd Gen i7 Processor @ 2.2gHz (w/hyper threading)
2x 350gb 5400rpm hard drives
8 gb RAM
A normal rom data is about 20GB...
I dunno how much ram it require. Most of the developers run Linux. And even in i7 and SSD, it takes about 2 hours to compile a rom...
For apps, I'm not too sure. A 5MB app Is about 40mb after decompile.
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Awesome, thanks!
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Hello. I'm new on this forum, so please be gentle...
Can someone tell me how can I install Windows on a Tablet? I can't seem to find the answer on GOOGLE.
This is the Tablet and it's specs:
Name: Serioux S102TAB
Display: 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600, 5 point multi-touch, Capacitive
CPU: ARM, Cortex, A9, 1.2Ghz Dual Core, Rockchip RK3168
RAM: 1Gb DDR(3?)
HDD: 8Gb
External HDD: 32Gb microSD
GPU: ARM Mali 400
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 3G
Multimedia: Speaker, Microphone, Web Cam 0.3 + 1.3 Mpx
OS: Android 4.2.2
Battery: Lithium Polymer 5000mAh
I appreciate any kinds of help and anyone who tries to help.
Have a nice day/night!
If you want install Windows like a PC (desktop apps...) it is impossible because are different platforms (ARM VS X86-64).
If you mean Windows RT, actually is it not possible
What do you mean I can't install Windows on a Tablet? There are Tablets that have Windows on them. I saw a tablet that had Windows and Android on it. They were two separate Tablets, but they were both the same model with the same specs.
I'm not talking about PC version of Windows. I'm talking about the version that is on Tablets and Phones, Windows Mobile or something. There has to be a Custom ROM with that kind of Windows for me to flash it on the Tablet. But I don't know where to look for it.
EDIT: I just found out that there is Windows 8.1 RT for ARM based devices.
If you mean the Asus Duet, it's an x86 , not ARM.
There aren't custom ROM with Windows RT inside. Cotulla is working on it with HTC One.
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Damn it, just search the net! Windows 8.1 RTM works with ARM cpus. The thing is I have no clue how to install it on android. It is an iso file that boots from the usb, but that only works on pcs(I think). They don't give us the instructions on how to install it on the Android. :crying::crying:
Gordon2013 said:
Hello. I'm new on this forum, so please be gentle...
Can someone tell me how can I install Windows on a Tablet? I can't seem to find the answer on GOOGLE.
This is the Tablet and it's specs:
Name: Serioux S102TAB
Display: 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600, 5 point multi-touch, Capacitive
CPU: ARM, Cortex, A9, 1.2Ghz Dual Core, Rockchip RK3168
RAM: 1Gb DDR(3?)
HDD: 8Gb
External HDD: 32Gb microSD
GPU: ARM Mali 400
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 3G
Multimedia: Speaker, Microphone, Web Cam 0.3 + 1.3 Mpx
OS: Android 4.2.2
Battery: Lithium Polymer 5000mAh
I appreciate any kinds of help and anyone who tries to help.
Have a nice day/night!
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You cant run windows or even windows RT on your tablet/ majority of tablets out there (unless you create a virtual engine to mimic it which will work like crap) but i can suggest you side load Ubuntu with your android device which will work well. The OS is very malleable in that it is extremely open source AND is linux based, search for that instead... Good luck.
Quote RamRaja. Try to install that.
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Are you yelling and cussing at people to figure out what you cant?
Right now tablets dont really come as blank personal computing devices that you can unstall what ever OS and boot loader you want. The windows system would need drivers for all the on board hardware which may not be possible...
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This app might help you if needed for Microsoft windows core apps. It runs off a server... even gives you 2GB free cloud storage if they havent changed it yet. Onlive desktop app for android. Hope that helps.
BTW: Yes RT can run on ARM, but currently does not work for yours as detailed above.
scryan said:
Are you yelling and cussing at people to figure out what you cant?
Right now tablets dont really come as blank personal computing devices that you can unstall what ever OS and boot loader you want. The windows system would need drivers for all the on board hardware which may not be possible...
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First of all, sorry for yelling. I just said to him that there's already a windows that can run on arm cpus. But he didn't believe me...
Second, there aren't a large variety of components for tablets, most of them have the same crap. So it wouldn't be needing so many drivers.
RamRaja said:
This app might help you if needed for Microsoft windows core apps. It runs off a server... even gives you 2GB free cloud storage if they havent changed it yet. Onlive desktop app for android. Hope that helps.
BTW: Yes RT can run on ARM, but currently does not work for yours as detailed above.
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Well it says ANY arm based device. So my cpu falls into that category. Why are you saying my tablet can't run it?
BTW: I don't want to offend anyone. I just hoped that someone knew about it and how do do it. There is on now, but it's made for a surface tablet...
It would be nice if we could flash it though custom recovery.