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Was just offered a MT4G or Samsung Vibrant..

The speed on my Vibrant (I'm within my remorse period) is not an issue and it has been working just fine for over a week now. No freezes and no amount of lag to complain about at all. I don't have a data service since I'm usually always around spots with WiFI so the data features on the MT4G are nice and MIGHT come in handy whenever I decide to add a data plan but not at this moment. I miss the LED indicator which the Vibrant does not have and I would love a FFC and LED flash but I'm in LOVE with the Vibrants display and I guess I can live without the LED/FFC although it would be nice to have. Opinions?
BTW, I paid 50 bucks for my Vibrant from T-Mobile. I'll be paying the same amount for the MT4G.

honestly i thought i would miss the display too but after about a day i forgot all about it

From someone who has a Vibrant and MT4G (I will eventually have to pick one, but have both for now), you will find the MT4G screen is absolutely garbage infront of the Vibrant's. The LCD on the MT4G looks washed out and low quality when compared to the SuperAMOLED on the Vibrant. So, the Vibrant has its fair share of problems (one of my biggest problems is terrible battery life) but the screen is unmatched and if you have used a Vibrant, you will feel like you are downgrading when using the MT4G (in regards to the screen).
Oh and the MT4G is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. It isn't that the MT4G is "heavy", but rather it is that the Vibrant is light.

I actually like the MT4G's screen better. It displays text MUCH sharper. Text is very pixelated and blocky on the vibrant.
Anyway, the MT4G is the better phone. Faster all around and has many more features.

I personally don't get what all the hubub about the display is. Yes, it is incredibly nice. But it's not as though we had Nokia 6600 screens on our phones before the Vibrant. The screen on the MT4G seems to be just as nice to look at as the Nexus, Droid Incredible, Droid Eris, or any of a multitude of other phones out there, that people seem to be really happy about.
Why didn't we hear any of this back in the G1 days?
"Man, I like the G1. But I just can't give up the screen on my iPhone/3G."
or
"Man, the Nexus is really tight, and all, but after using the HD2, I just can't go back to a screen smaller than a PSP." (ok, that was hyperbole... but you get what I'm saying)
And I'm not accusing you of doing this. Thi sjust seems to be an argument that is made time and time again by hardcore Vibrant fans.

Kienz said:
I personally don't get what all the hubub about the display is. Yes, it is incredibly nice. But it's not as though we had Nokia 6600 screens on our phones before the Vibrant. The screen on the MT4G seems to be just as nice to look at as the Nexus, Droid Incredible, Droid Eris, or any of a multitude of other phones out there, that people seem to be really happy about.
Why didn't we hear any of this back in the G1 days?
"Man, I like the G1. But I just can't give up the screen on my iPhone/3G."
or
"Man, the Nexus is really tight, and all, but after using the HD2, I just can't go back to a screen smaller than a PSP." (ok, that was hyperbole... but you get what I'm saying)
And I'm not accusing you of doing this. Thi sjust seems to be an argument that is made time and time again by hardcore Vibrant fans.
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This is my biggest Issue, Will I miss the SAMOLED??

Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
My .02

Kienz said:
Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
My .02
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^ completely agree.
I'm coming from a Nexus One into G2 into the myTouch. When I first started using the myTouch, I couldn't help but frown as the screen didn't look as crisp or clear as the G2's. But this phone won me over with all it's other features and impressive hardware. That, and I actually like Sense whereas TouchWiz made me think I was playing with a toy.

Kienz said:
Ok, ask yourself this:
Do you have an HDTV? Is it 120Hz? 240? If so, does it make your stomache turn to look at a regular, or less-than-1080p tv? Do movies in theaters look like trash to you?
If not, then don't fall for the "This is the latest thing, and before you had this your life was meaningless" nonsense. Yes, if you read posts about how much better the screen is, on a daily basis, you will find yourself comparing the two. And, as such, you will probably start feeling as though you miss it. But were you really unhappy about your screen's display before you got the Vibrant? Did you find yourself longing for an S-Amoled screen, even though we had no idea what one would look like before seeing the Vibrant? Probably not.
I bet I can tell you what you WON'T miss, though.
A lack of led notifications.
A lack of Flash.
A lack of an FM radio.
A lack of pc sync. (Kies? Really?)
A data port/charging port that was brilliantly place on the top of the phone.
The drag-your-feet manner in which Samsung makes updates available to their customers.
The inexplicably convoluted RFS files system, which inevitibly causes lag on the phone.
And possibly a few other things. But, again, not trying to point fingers, or sound accusatory. Just sharing my opinion. And, by the way, I did love the display. But the only time I really miss it is when I read about how great it was.
My .02
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+1... and add to the list the HSDPA+, FFC (eventhough you won't use it, it's still better to know you have it in case you need it) and 256MB of extra RAM... phones are not meant for watching movies.. and it's not like movies are unwatchable on MT4G.. as it's still gorgeous! i think when it comes to phones, you have to look at the features and the sturdy feel on the device, which in my opinion the samsung lacks compared to MT4G.. now if you're comparing MT4G to DESIRE HD, now that's a different story.. that belongs to the other thread..

Coming from the Vibrant I must say how extremely happy I am. I had a totally modded Vibrant to get the speed that the MT4G has right out of the box. The battery life of the Vibrant is horrible. The MT4G is a beast............extremely happy to have my MT4G.....oh yea after 3 to 4 days you get used to the screen, I dont watch movies on it so not that big of a deal me.

DADDYDC650 said:
The speed on my Vibrant (I'm within my remorse period) is not an issue and it has been working just fine for over a week now. No freezes and no amount of lag to complain about at all. I don't have a data service since I'm usually always around spots with WiFI so the data features on the MT4G are nice and MIGHT come in handy whenever I decide to add a data plan but not at this moment. I miss the LED indicator which the Vibrant does not have and I would love a FFC and LED flash but I'm in LOVE with the Vibrants display and I guess I can live without the LED/FFC although it would be nice to have. Opinions?
BTW, I paid 50 bucks for my Vibrant from T-Mobile. I'll be paying the same amount for the MT4G.
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You posted the exact same thing on the t-mobile forums. How many times you going to post this? Looking for a dog to throw you a bone?
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/Was-just-offered-a-MT4G-or-Samsung-Vibrant/td-p/541416
Same ****, same story.

Couldn't agree with you more and btw, the setup I have now with my vibrant gives me tremendous battery life (check sig )
DarkAgent said:
From someone who has a Vibrant and MT4G (I will eventually have to pick one, but have both for now), you will find the MT4G screen is absolutely garbage infront of the Vibrant's. The LCD on the MT4G looks washed out and low quality when compared to the SuperAMOLED on the Vibrant. So, the Vibrant has its fair share of problems (one of my biggest problems is terrible battery life) but the screen is unmatched and if you have used a Vibrant, you will feel like you are downgrading when using the MT4G (in regards to the screen).
Oh and the MT4G is noticeably heavier than the Vibrant. It isn't that the MT4G is "heavy", but rather it is that the Vibrant is light.
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kamasi36 said:
You posted the exact same thing on the t-mobile forums. How many times you going to post this? Looking for a dog to throw you a bone?
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/Was-just-offered-a-MT4G-or-Samsung-Vibrant/td-p/541416
Same ****, same story.
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Someone's parents didn't love them enough.
Note how the OP for both threads is the same, asking the same question. Now try to think why I would post the same answer.

DarkAgent said:
Someone's parents didn't love them enough.
Note how the OP for both threads is the same, asking the same question. Now try to think why I would post the same answer.
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Maybe I wanted opinions from different follks? Not everyone knows about XDA. My bad for being excited for my new 50 dollar device. =)

I came from the G2, I don't really notice the difference in the screen and I don't think you can unless you put them next to each other. I know the Vibrant has a better screen but all the new benefits and 4G and more RAM and now with root this is a great device. The feel is really good and the battery life is not better than the vibrant.

DADDYDC650 said:
Maybe I wanted opinions from different follks? Not everyone knows about XDA. My bad for being excited for my new 50 dollar device. =)
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Oh I don't blame you -- I understand why you did it. I probably would have done the same. I was simply replying to the guy *****ing about how I posted the same answer.

DarkAgent said:
Oh I don't blame you -- I understand why you did it. I probably would have done the same. I was simply replying to the guy *****ing about how I posted the same answer.
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I was actually replying to that guy. Guess I quoted the wrong post. Sorry about that!
BTW, how are you liking your MT4G?

DADDYDC650 said:
I was actually replying to that guy. Guess I quoted the wrong post. Sorry about that!
BTW, how are you liking your MT4G?
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I can't say, unfortunately. The one I got had dust underneath the screen so I returned it the next day, only playing with it for an hour or so. I am currently waiting on my replacement which should be here tomorrow (free express shipping ftw). There are advantages of ordering via retention, but the lead time on exchanges is not one of them.
That said, I was extremely disappointed in the screen of the first MT4G -- it looked very washed out and low quality. I hope it was a defective screen because otherwise I think I may just end up going back to the Vibrant.

I'm slightly disappointed in the Thunderbolt

I had a Droid Incredible before my Thunderbolt. My girl now has my Incredible and, when she has any problems with it, I really enjoy picking up that phone to help, fix, or change some things for her. I miss my Incredible.
Sure, the Thunderbolt's larger screen is nicer and easier to look at in many respects, but the Incredible fits nicely in my hands. I never use protective covers, cases, or films... and I never will. That's just how I roll. I was able to flip the Incredible around and maneuver it in my hand like Tom Cruise handles liqueur bottles in 'Cocktail.' Sorry for the cheesy movie analogy. I feel clumsy with the Thunderbolt and I find myself grasping it tighter out of fear of it jumping out of my hands.
The power button and volume rocker is on the opposite side which is tough to get accustomed to. I understand that's because of the kickstand and maybe it's more ergonomically correct for right handed people. I don't know if the old way caters to us left-handed, left-eared people better or not, but that's what I was used to.
I really miss the AMOLED screen of the Incredible. When it's sunny out, I find it just as difficult to see the Thunderbolt's display, so that's a non-issue for me. I just REALLY miss the contrast, pop, and vibrant colors of the AMOLED. AMOLED's refresh rate doesn't leave fading gray trails when scrolling fine black lines or text like LCDs do. If I didn't love HTC and Sense so much, I would opt for a Samsung, but I'm too stubborn and I have succumbed to brand loyalty.
I see hints of the performance gain in the MSM8655 of the Thunderbolt vs the QSD8650 in the Incredible, especially with the newer Adreno graphics... but I'm not impressed at all. Honestly, I can't stand how choppy some of the Sense graphics are; for example, text message and email scrolling, and the notoriously clunky app drawer for Sense hurt my eyes sometimes. I have the Warm Z TwoPointTwo ROM on the Incredible and it seems to perform better, especially in those respects, than the Thunderbolt. And that's with the stock HTC kernel on the Incredible. Of course, actual benchmarks would beg to differ.
The Thunderbolt has 4g... and that's why I won't trade with my girlfriend. So far, my best upload and download speeds have been 44Mb/s and 19Mb/s respectively. I even get better overall reception (including LTE) at home with the Thunderbolt than the Incredible or any other Verizon phone, which would often drop calls unless we stood next to a window when I'm at home. I also think, as time goes on, the ROMs will get better, smoother, faster, and more stable for the Thunderbolt. I'm having trouble finding just the right skin, theme, and ROM for the Thunderbolt. I've tried BAMF Remixed, Thunder, and now I'm on VirusROM. I just need to learn some patience. Maybe Warm Z TwoPointTwo will come to Thunderbolt. I love that ROM.
Until then, I'll just continue to find reasons to spend some quality time with my old pal, Incredible. I know I just need to quit cold-turkey... rip it off like a band-aid... but it's so difficult when I still share the same home with that phone.

No choppiness here.
None. Not overclocked either.

I hate that the placement of the volume rocker. I feel the same way you do about your incredible as I did about my G2. I had the G2 for a month before I sold it. I miss the G2, but really do like the Thunderbolt.

adrynalyne said:
No choppiness here.
None. Not overclocked either.
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I do and have had for a while. Email scrolling, web surfing and XDA App. Doesn't matter what kernel whether it is normal, under volted etc... I also have short freezing while typing on both text and email. Two full wipes and no change. The freezing kinda reminds me of the way my Facinate acted on stock 2.1
I wish I knew why this is happening. : (
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I've never experienced the issues you outlined about the screen. Perhaps yours is defective?

Maybe the incredible 2 would have been a better choice for you?

I also came from an incredible to the tbolt because i had dropped my Dinc and the screen was shattered 60 feet to the concrete will so do that...lol and the insurance no longer has the inc. So they offered me a droid x and i fought with him to get the tbolt and i miss my old inc:.. lolI hope myn warm comes to the tbolt
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nerozehl said:
I've never experienced the issues you outlined about the screen. Perhaps yours is defective?
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Are you talking about the gray fade on scrolling? It's barely noticeable. I'm a perfectionist. Because I liked my Incredible so much, I'm likely blowing any flaws out of proportion.
dirtyfingers said:
Maybe the incredible 2 would have been a better choice for you?
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I was thinking about it... but since I was using up an upgrade discount, I wanted to make sure the phone was drastically different. Bigger screen and, of course, 4g. The Incredible 2 would have only been an upgrade in the chipset... and maybe a couple other things I don't really care about. As far as I know, it doesn't have AMOLED, either.
Don't get me wrong, though. I do love the Thunderbolt. I just wanted to rant about the little nuances after having the Incredible for a year.
The four capacitive back-lit buttons on the Thunderbolt are dimmer and have spotty hotspots compared to the Incredible, too. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

I got all those issues he mentioned. I believe that htc will release a fw upgrade to ease some of those issues. There's more issues on top of those too like not being able to talk when plugged into a stereo with audio Jack. Something that is possible on the dinc. Sometimes when exiting apps it takes me to app drawer instead of default home screen. And the most annoying work the stock sms app not giving me the option to send without saving as a draft first. Htc can't allow that to linger. Ill be damned if I'm the only one having those issues. But I'm still in love with the phone. The button orientation takes some getting used to but ill get over it. And the lag with the sense widgets are tolerable. I've weaned away from launcherpro for a while but with those issues, I'm thinking about reusing it again. Its way faster than sense. I'm sure there can bea home replacement app that can satisfy us more than launcherpro go launcher & adw. One that will replicate some of sense 2.0 or even 3.0 features. I've been convinced so after trying out Regina launcher.
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My only complaint is the power button. I seem to have a hard time hitting it.

Well, there are other phones out there
Me:
No lag.
No performance hitches.
No battery issues.
No oversaturated all to hell amoled screen.

adrynalyne said:
Well, there are other phones out there
Me:
No lag.
No performance hitches.
No battery issues.
No oversaturated all to hell amoled screen.
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Battery is definitely better in the Thunderbolt. I use my old TP2 battery (1500mA) in the Incredible and battery life is tolerable. The AMOLED screen could be to blame for some battery issues.
I use your your kernel with the Thunderbolt and battery life is quite good so far even though it's stock battery is 1400mA.
One thing I can say I'm looking forward to with the LCD screen vs AMOLED: I don't have to worry about burn-in (or burn-out, so to speak). I haven't had that problem on the Incredible but, eventually, it would happen.

I've been surprised with the Thunderbolt. I came from a Droid and then a Droid X and only bought the Thunderbolt because I wanted an upgrade to play with until the dual-core qHD's show up in the summer.
I still consider it to be a "hold-me-over" phone, and I expect the Bionic is going to be the likely replacement, but Thunderbolt has been very pleasing. The HTC build quality is good, and Sense is less maddening than Blur was, but in truth, we really aren't stuck with the junk the manufacturer puts on the phone so they don't really matter very much.
I didn't expect the Thunderbolt to be faster than the X. I expected the battery life to suck. I expected LTE to be marginal for me.
Well it is faster than the X--a lot faster. Perhaps it's RAM or perhaps the processor is just more advanced, but the difference is quite noticeable.
I also haven't had any problems with the battery, although I'm not a heavy user or a heavy talker. Battery life was acceptable before I started rooting and ROM'ing, and has been quite good since then
I don't get LTE at my home and I work from here, so I only see it once a week when I go down to Orlando to see my bro's, so it's still not a big deal to me now. But a year from now it will. Of course I'll be on the big powerhouse phone then, but whoever on my account gets the phone from me will appreciate it (probably my daughter).
Btw, does anyone realize how expensive a five-phone plan is with 2000 minutes and five smart phones? Yikes. I could cause Verizon to have a bad quarter by switching to AT&T with all the money I'm paying them. If I didn't care about my phone doing things like making calls and sending/receiving data, I might consider it.
I've looked at all those sexy phones coming in for T-Mo and AT&T and even Sprint, but I've been with Big Red for a lot of years now and I have faith they will bring the hardware this summer. They may never have the dominance they had last year, but they will be a player.
As for the Thunderbolt, it is an evolutionary phone, pushing yesterday's technology into a fully satisfactory form for today and doing a superb job of it. I'm glad I pulled the trigger on it, rather than waiting for the Charge or DInc2.

adrynalyne said:
Well, there are other phones out there
Me:
No lag.
No performance hitches.
No battery issues.
No oversaturated all to hell amoled screen.
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I second this. This phone is great. Sure I miss some of the things about my "adrynalyned" fascinate, but still I wouldn't trade back.
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Volume buttons on the right are driving me mad.
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Immolate said:
I've been surprised with the Thunderbolt. I came from a Droid and then a Droid X and only bought the Thunderbolt because I wanted an upgrade to play with until the dual-core qHD's show up in the summer.
I didn't expect the Thunderbolt to be faster than the X. I expected the battery life to suck. I expected LTE to be marginal for me.
Well it is faster than the X--a lot faster. Perhaps it's RAM or perhaps the processor is just more advanced, but the difference is quite noticeable
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With the X you have to use Autokiller if your rooted so it doesn't lag, at least I did, and with autokiller the X was a hell of a phone. I finally found a rom (was released yesterday) for the TB that makes my TB run Better than my X.

Immolate said:
Btw, does anyone realize how expensive a five-phone plan is with 2000 minutes and five smart phones? Yikes. I could cause Verizon to have a bad quarter by switching to AT&T with all the money I'm paying them. If I didn't care about my phone doing things like making calls and sending/receiving data, I might consider it.
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This made me laugh so hard
I do not think I will go back, I just miss my Incredible's trackpad... I hate these damn arrows

gbmitchell said:
My only complaint is the power button. I seem to have a hard time hitting it.
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Yea that's my only complaint as well. Then again the incredible's wasn't that great either my fav power buttons were droid and droid x.

The stock sms on the tbolt is horrible. It lags bad. It will gray out the send button mid text. Every other text is failed and have to resend. The word suggestion covers up the message text. The whole design is not very user friendly in my own opinion. But...other than the sms my tbolt is great. And handcent took care of the crappy messaging.

Immolate said:
Btw, does anyone realize how expensive a five-phone plan is with 2000 minutes and five smart phones? Yikes. I could cause Verizon to have a bad quarter by switching to AT&T with all the money I'm paying them. If I didn't care about my phone doing things like making calls and sending/receiving data, I might consider it.
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Yes, I know exactly how expensive this is!!! Me, wife, son, 2 x step kids, every one has a smart phone. And the cable company wants me to pay for a home phone???
I came from an Incredible also. I don't miss it. Once I saw the size of the TBolt screen I was sold.

Post Your Sensation User Reviews Here

It might be a good idea for members who already have the Sensation to post a review here. Give us your thoughts, opinions and general observations...good and bad.
I'm tempted to get one of these myself, but would love to hear opinions from people who already have them

Sensation is an amazing piece of hardware saddled by a crappy build of Sense. If this phone ran stock GB, it'd be hands down one of the best phones out.
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My own HTC SENSATION 4G FOR T-MOBILE REVIEW on Youtube http://youtu.be/jnvhPjJdnHE
Please keep the negative comments down...I have Lupus and i was having a bad pain day and couldnt walk...So i did the review in a chair. So what..lol

Don't shoot me for this as this is my personal opinion but here is my post in the mini comparison review that i posted in the GSII forum
I stopped by the TMO store near work today and checked out the sensation. I spent a good 10minutes with it (no one else was at the store)
Despite being thicker, it felt thinner in hand. I actually do like the overall design and feel better than the boxy feeling of Galaxy S II. That being said, if i hear another HTC fanboi whine about the Galaxy S II being too plasticy(lol), I will snap the plastic pieces from the back cover of the sensation and shove them in their mouth. Outside of the little center piece, construction material is very similar
Now to the device performance. It was sad to see the device run so slowly with the sense overlay. Maybe i spent too much time with the GS II but it's very noticeable. I even asked the store rep when the device was rebooted and she said earlier today I don't think i rebooted my GSII since the reflash to KE2 from KE7. When i handed her my phone to the rep while i played with the sensation, she said the samething about the quickness of the device.
I enjoyed the sense in the old days of winmo but now it just seems overly complicated. On my captivate, i ran the stock android launcher over TW3 and TW4 was pretty refreshing until i ran into a few limitations and swapped it out with LP.
There are many more things needing comparison but that would happen soon when i recommend the sensation for my co-worker who's using TMO.
Edit: Screen was pretty decent. It wasn't as bad as some of the review said it was but it wasn't great either. Also the web browser and TMO service ran pretty smoothly but it did choke slightly during the scroll while browsing engadget
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Got mine in the hype of the "early" release by wally mart. Being an avid N1 user since inception, and trying different roms and settling on the stock MIUI roms I must say the Sense 3.0 is a refreshing change IMO. Don't get me wrong, once MIUI can get this I'm all over it LOL....
As for the plus side of things, I do like the Sense launcher. It works for me and how it should. The screen is a little longer than my N1 but I do like it's display. The heft to the phone is great. The feel for the phone feels just sexy in my hand. Wifi connects for me and as for the 4g speeds....it really depends where you are, period. But generally where I had 3g+ in the office, I get 3 bars of 4g. Calls connect without an issue on the network, but the wifi calling which uses minutes as well works well but sounds very low in speakerphone mode. Another cool thing is that the wifi calling featured, when enabled turns automagically on everytime a wifi connection is established. It may be annoying to some, but I like it. You can disable it at any time.
As the negatives go, I would say the s-on. I know its all about timing but they should have gotten something out in a form of a small update either to download or OTA to unlock the thing. Another thing is the volume levels. Ringtone and speaker is low. I am guessing rooting can solve some of the volume issues. Another thing I am missing that the N1 has is the screen off animation. Cosmetic yes, but that's what made GB, GB IMO. As for 4g connection, and speeds, I am happy with it, but I hear it's more quicker on other 4g devices.
Bottom line, is it a good upgrade from a Nexus One? Yes IMO, once it's rooted, this thing will indeed become a beast.

Had my Rogers One X for a week - impressions

Been lurking on these forums for a long time, finally decided to register to share my thoughts on the One X..
I've predominantly been an iPhone user since the launch of the 3g here in Canada. With a jailbreak and length of usage, I have my iPhone set up to do everything I need it to do almost perfectly. In the last half a year or so, however, I've become tired of looking at iOS. Every time I'd look at android devices with their big screens and useful widgets I'd feel a little pang of jealousy. Thus, I started purchasing Android devices non stop and within the last year, I tried the:
Nexus S
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy S2
HTC Sensation
and
Galaxy Nexus again
I ended up returning / selling each of these phones for a variety of reasons, the two biggest factors were the lack of comparable pixel density and battery life. After getting rid of the Sensation I bought an iPhone 4S and was disturbed by how much worse the battery life was vs the iPhone 4. My 4 would never come close to dying and the 4S was struggling to make it through a day.
The second galaxy nexus with 4.0.4 was almost perfect BUT the samsung build quality bothered me as it just didn't "feel" like a premium device should in the hand..
I knew as soon as I saw the One X I'd have to give it a try. HTC is known for putting together phones that feel great in the hand and this is a factor for me. So far, this phone has been outstanding! I find myself unlocking it regularly just to look at the display. The battery life has been incredible, I have not come close to having the battery die on me on any given day. Granted, I do more texting, twitter, facebook, browsing and text based things vs playing games. The longest day I've had on it so far is 19h 51m with 4h 18m of screen time and I still had 11% of battery left.
Not being a hardcore android enthusiast as of yet, I don't have too much of an issue with sense 4.0. It's pretty to look at and adds some decent functionality. The downside is the minor lag when flicking between homescreens. I would hope that on a flagship, powerful device they'd be able to have virtually no noticeable lag whilst performing such tasks.
This phone does most things flawlessly, I have zero complaints regarding phone performance, call quality, text msging etc. As a phone, it seems to be working extremely well thus far. It also feels great in the hands, the polycarbonate shell almost has a ceramic feel to it. The size is a bit shocking coming from an iPhone but is easy to adapt to.
However, the device isn't without it's bugs, these are the ones I've noticed so far:
-Display: I know HTC is using two different LCD panels, mine is definitely the warmer of the two being used and the whites have a bit more of a yellowy than a blueish tinge to them. I'm not sure how much this bothers me as of yet as in every way the display seems great to look at, I run auto brightness and don't expect it to be extremely bright. I'd be interested in knowing whether anyone with a Rogers unit has a whiter or yellower display?
-Wifi seems to be an ongoing issue. At first it seemed like it would barely hold onto a solid wifi connection at home. I googled like mad and saw a suggestion regarding hard coding the IP vs using DHCP to solve the issue. I didn't think that would be the solution and found another person saying the phone seemed to work better with a wireless network mode of b/g vs b/g/n so I disabled N on my router and the wifi seems to be much more consistent now but not perfect. At times the wifi bars will just disappear for no apparent reason. I've never had an issue like this with any other wifi device at home. Also attempted a channel change. Hoping it's a software issue that gets sorted with an update
-Camera seems pretty average to me.. This is one area where I think the iPhone still excels beyond any other phone I've ever tried. Its simple camera tends to take pretty good 95% of the time. With the One X so far I had a buddy attempt to snap a quick picture of me and it wasn't great. Have tried a few test pictures around the house and the quality seems okay but not great. Keep in mind, I haven't messed with settings, just literally point and shoot. I don't feel as if though you should have to adjust settings to produce a good quality image with a camera phone, I'm not a photographer and have no real interest in learning about photography. I just want to capture a moment on demand and have it captured fairly well without much effort
-Status bar icons: Last night was the first time I've set an alarm on the phone. The icons in the status bar seemed to be going a bit nuts, the alarm icon would disappear and reappear for no apparent reason. Not sure if I just need a reboot because I haven't heard anything about this anywhere
-Call volume display: When I adjust the volume during a call, the volume display is still on the screen when I'm ending the call, which could be minutes later. For some reason it doesn't seem like it's automatically closing off the screen
Anyway, sorry for the long winded intro and thoughts. Would love to hear feedback regarding the issues I've experienced and would be glad to answer questions regarding the device for those of you still waiting to pick yours up.
Cheers!

Thanks for taking the time to give us info. Good to know.

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+1. Can't wait until Friday!

Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!

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Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!
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Good to know about the screen. It doesn't really bother me too much until I hold it next to a device with more of a blueish tinge.
I noticed the camera focusing sound too, very odd. Never had a phone that makes any type of audible noise when focusing.
I haven't used the music app so can't really help you on that one.
I'll try and take some good pics and upload them and we can compare!

My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.

I still haven't experienced any issues with WiFi on mine. It's rock solid.
The only thing I can think of, is that I've disabled Packet Aggregation on my router (Asus RT-N56U) due to some incompatibilities with my D-Link AP (constant disconnections). Perhaps it's the same issue.

Don't own one yet, but I've played with the demo unit at AT&T numerous times. About half the time I've had the wifi drop out on me. This is concerning and hope it can be fixed with an update. Regardless, I will be preording my unit tomorrow.

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My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.
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I *HAVE* to assume this is a software issue. It's ridiculous how bad it is. Changing my router to just b/g did make it much more consistent but still not even close to 100%. It's constantly slower than my iPhone testing from the same spots of the house. Could always try to enable the "Best wifi performance" option or whatever but it apparently sucks down quite a bit more battery.

I can also say i have the same issues regarding the wifi! Seems to be a widespread issue.

Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.

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Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.
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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.

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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.
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I never have gps on since it sucks so bad on my captivate I have just given up on it for now lol

I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
I've had many flagship android phones and had an iphone at 6 different times (from 3G to 4S) so I would say I've had my fair share.
This HTC One X is the first android phone I've had that truely feels high end - I LOVE the screen and its all around a great looking device. No complaints from me actually - its also the first android phone I've had I didn't immediately want to flash a new rom on. I will likely flash AOSP on it though at some point, whenever that is possible.
in short - it's a FANTASTIC phone! battery life blows the 4S out of the water.

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I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
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If you are an avid ROM flasher, you know that on new phones, and after ROM flashes, the battery meter is not calibrated. The actual battery consumption is not changing. Just the % battery that is being displayed is changing (getting more accurate).

kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.

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kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.
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On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."

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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."
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Trust me. When you get this phone. You won't be dissappointed. Esp in camera area. But again, its a phone, not a dedicated camera, so its kind of silly seeing people dis phone makers because areas like cameras, gaming, screen reso is not stelllar. Want a great camera? Lol buy a camera, want a great gaming console? Buy a game console. Want great display? Go get a 55 LCD screen tv. Maybe I'm just excited about this phone.
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I have to agree the only two complaints I have with mine. The first is the Wi-Fi it seems spotty unless I am less than ten feet from my router. The only other complaint I have is with the sense keyboard. I am testing a few alternatives so its more a preference than anything. Bottom line though the One X is probably the best device I have used in a long time.
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Post Your First Impressions

Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:

Got mine yesterday as well. Extremely nice screen! Gorilla Glass 3 resists finger prints better then advertised in my opinion and the overall 5 inch display is incredible. Super zippy but yes, comes loaded with Samsung and AT&T Apps but this shouldn't be too surprising as Samsung did advertise there software quite a bit. Only natural they put there mark in it. On the flip side all this is easily fixable once a root is out but EVEN with this stuff the phone manages to handle it's memory well and work fast.
Overall I am glad I waited and after a couple of weeks I think there people freaking out are really gonna kick themselves for getting all worked up over stupid problems that are easily dealt with.

Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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WMguy said:
Always curious to hear.
Got mine yesterday.
It's all screen! Lighter, thinner than GS3. Feels more like a small, thin Note 2 which is a good thing to me. Not so bubbly as GS3. Screen is amazing. Bloatware is out of control. The back looks kind of like snake skin.
The speaker is much louder than GS3. So far, I love it. Haven't even tried the features yet!
Anyone else?:good:
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screen is mind blowingly good, i had a HTC one for 3 days before i got my GS4 and honestly the one was closer to the s4 then i thought it would be. the one had less bloat and it stutter a bit less (after freezing bloat my phone has gotten ALOT better). camera is awesome love the quality and wow this phone is so small for 5 inches. coming from a note 2 and a temporary lumia 920 this thing feels tiny and light, honestly one of the major selling points of the gs4 is it's bezel less design (imo). if bootloader stays locked for long i am selling it or trading it for the one or octa core version.... its a shame that the stock rom is so bloated, i traded the one back because i thought sammy software would blow htc out the water but it didn't . One more thing, the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better then the htc one. htc could not sync to my sound bar or u-verse box no matter what i tried, the GS4 had that working in seconds. i have 3 remotes just for my bed room and the fact that i do not need them is a huge plus.

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Got mine yesterday. see my bloatware thread.
Hardware is amazing and top notch. Software is so bloated and bogged down that, when combined with locked bootloader, I will strongly consider returning.
People might flame me for this, but even with the bloat disabled and using Nova launcher, my gs3 running slim bean is faster on everyday tasks.
Just hit 5% battery life and the phone just automatically reduced brightness to a point that I can barely use it, and phone won't let me crank it back up. Just way too much garbage.
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You might need to play with the settings some more for the auto brightness settings. As for the lag, AOSP ROMs have always been faster (in my experience) to Touchwiz Roms. I'm going to put up with the stock Touchwiz for as long as I can before trying out the first releases of AOSP on the GS4. I'm hopeful we will see some crazy development action if it's true the Quad-core international version ROM's can easily be ported to the US versions and vice versa. The international GS3 had so much to chose from. I was perfectly happy on my GS3 using AOKP, but I'm sure I'm not going to regret moving over to the GS4. I had the same debate when switching from the GS2 to the GS3.

I dont get mine till tonight, but I found one in a best buy mobile store and was surpised at how much stuttering I saw just going through the homescreens.
Im hoping that when I disable all the eye tracking stuff that will all run better.

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the GS4 tv remote works 10000 times better
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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?

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I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend

SysAdmNj said:
I'm sold
I tried the htc one remote control feature and liked it. Only thing I really liked, glad to hear the gs4 one is better. Definitely comes in handy.
How is the camera? Especially the dual shot feature(I feel I'll be using this alot )? And the other camera features?
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.

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just got the phone yesterday but i have not played with it a lot, studying for finals . but i did dual shot and it is cool and i could see it being fun to use. have not tried all the shooting modes but i am flying to NYC tonight and i plan on taking a bunch of photos and playing with the camera in depth over the weekend
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Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
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Here are some photos I snapped this morning in challenging conditions: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oll6vneulv13mz6/TZcApg0pCD
Overall, better than Galaxy S3 by a decent margin. But I used to have an iPhone 5, and my initial impression is that the IP5 takes better pictures than the GS4, at least in these conditions. I feel like it was extremely rare that I got a bad photo out of that phone, even in a relatively dark room as in these pictures, but as you can see in my link, several of these are pretty bad.
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Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?

SysAdmNj said:
Well good luck with that, and post some of the pics when you can
Your pics look pretty good to me. I'm viewing them on my 24" monitor at work though. Cute dog btw. I'm sure compared to the ip5 the gs4 will have better detail due to the higher resolution in normal conditions? Is there an exposure setting? Or other settings to help low light conditions?
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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!

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Now that I've taken a second look, I guess you are right that they are pretty decent, except for one of them. I'm so used to looking at things on a small screen that when I blow it up on a big monitor I expect it to be just as sharp on a big screen as it was on a small screen!
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i agree. those pics you posted dont look that bad. that's the problem with the htc one camera (i own one) when you increase the resolution of the pic, the quality suffers due to only being 4mp. the gs4 is 13mp so it wont be as bad when you increase it's resolution (although there will still be some kind of quality drop off).

Just frickin' awesome. After having the Note this "cheap" plastic feels luxurious

Got mine today. Coming from an LG Optimus G. Here's a few thoughts.
1. I really like the keyboard. But since I've been a swiftkey user for a long time that's no surprise.
2. Screen is very good. Wish it was a little brighter when using auto brightness, but it is very good nonetheless.
3. Maybe I'm just not that picky, but I don't notice any lag. At least not anything bad enough to complain about.
4. Seems to charge pretty fast with the included 2 amp charger.
5. It might be plastic, but I can tell you I like the light weight and the feel in my hand better than my LG Optimus G...
6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I have a few questions,
1. Does the speaker have 'stereo sound' like the HTC one? Can you hear the base? What about hooking up to the headphone? Does it sound better than S3?
2. Anyone here uses Allshare cast? I have a Samsung LED Smart TV that I stream movies directly from my phone to the TV with a touch of a button on the S3. It does have occasional lags, however. Does the S4 do the same?
3. Does the S4 have the same amount of ringtones like the S3?

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6. I thought the 'swapped' menu and back buttons would bother me. But to be honest, I kind of like it better...
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I actually really like the button setup. When I got my first smartphone like three years ago, it was a Blackberry, and it had a similar button arrangement. It went [PHONE][MENU][HOME/SELECT][BACK][END CALL]. My current Galaxy S2 is [MENU][HOME][BACK][SEARCH]. So the S4 will be the same as I am used to, and I will appreciate not having to get used to a new setup.

two issues.
1)wifi keeps on disconnecting... very annoying
i have another device on the same wifi, but it's not disconnecting at all.
2) RAM. even if i clear everything, i'm at 1.2GB ish.. i always notice the homescreen widgets refreshing themselves due to low RAM.
anyone else?
everything else is fine.
speedy, beautiful screen, good speaker, very nice camera, etc.

Speaker is very good; coming from S2
Bloat... Blah
Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.

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Android without root, is like a day without sunshine.
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This is a great comment! I agree 100%.

rsmolen said:
This is a great comment! I agree 100%.
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I honestly dont feel a need to root with the One S4 I can see being pretty much the same. Too me stock is way more boring =/