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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
Instead, i wonder why i am running very low on memory when there is 2gb internal storage that android will see or use. I removed alot of the att crap using titanium backup.
Android install uses, really, that much for the rom and stuff that ONLY half (1gb) is free for us to use up?
I wonder if its possible to increase the internal memory seen?? Probably not. But i remember back using the hd2 with android we could increase the data file size to 2gb and it had alot more room to play with
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I know there are problems with android using or seeing over 2gb, so i wont bother with talking about that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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What do you mean? I've got the Captivate, and it has a 2GB ROM and has 1.42GB free, and then both the internal and external SD cards are approx 16GB each and Android sees that.
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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This has nothing to do with sd cards. Im only talking about INTERNAL memory. The inspire has 4gb INTERNAL and android only can work with 2. So the other 2 of internal memory is useless, right now anyways. I think maybe in the future a newer version of android may be able to use it ..... but whatever
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Ok, I'm not sure on the internal memory or not.
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See, thats what im wondering here. That captivate has 2gb internal and you have 1.42 free. So far it seems i can only get a hair over 1gb free. So it mkes me think the ROM is using almost an entire gig or the internal memory?????
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I've got a lot of apps installed. Including some that takes a lot of space like Need for Speed Shift.
The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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The Inspire 4G has 4GB of internal memory, 1GB of which is usable.
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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I don't understand that... Why? Is this a flaw in the ROM? Android? What is the other 3GB used for?
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Does anyone know?
This might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
I don't care about the other 2gb of memory. I want to know why the Rom uses almost a gig itself and we get left with almost nothing. I know I can move apps to storage card, but that's not what I'm looking for as an answer. Does the Rom actually use a gig and we get left with the other gig? I just don't get how a Rom can use that much.
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It has 1GB of usable storage. Froyo allows you to install apps on the SD card. If you can manage to fill 1GB of non-SD apps then honestly, you have to many apps. That's probably approaching the 3-digit number of apps. Don't worry about specs so much and just focus on actual performance.
I asked HTC why, on a device that's advertised with 4gb internal memory, no one sees more than a little over 1gb free. This was the official response I got from HTC regarding the issue:
Dear Greg,
I understand the importance of being able to use the fully memory capacity of your HTC Inspire 4G. The 4GB of ROM on your device is shared with the operating system and all programs that are pre-installed on the device. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced through this.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW09ENA001776.
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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I mean I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch about it. I have plenty of room on my SD...and if it's true that this space is used to optimize the OS, then OK. It would be nice to have access to all of that storage - but it's not necessary. I wish that this would be how they advertised it though, rather than just saying 4gb internal memory
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So, just to be clear. Only having that 1GB of space doesn't bother you?
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Doesn't bother me at all. I have over 850mb of it free.
Gotta love CM7.
So the OS is using a whopping gig of the internal storage. Ok, i already KNEW that. It still doesnt explain why this phone is using that much and my dell streak has a gig and a half available when reset to factory default and nothing installed.
With the HD2 running froyo off the sd card, and the img set to 2gb, same thing, it had alot more than a gig left. Heck, some roms for that were set with 1gb img file and froyo didnt use it all up from the geckgo.
It just doesnt make any sense to me. Im not looking for more space for apps, i have alot of space left, but when i dont, im going to be going ....... WTF
Im sure there are going to be some app monkeys running out of room and asking the same thing.
On a related note (just to clarify that I am not directly addressing the main issue at hand), I have 21 apps installed, 6 of which are games, and still have .96GB free. How many freaking apps do you guys have installed to be running out of space? At my rate, I would probably have to install over 200 apps to run out of space.
carhigh said:
Ok, since you cant read
IM NOT OUT OF SPACE !!!!!!!
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUNNING OUT OF SPACE
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Since you're not too good at this whole discussion thing, let me explain how we got here.
A) I realize that this thread is about the fact that we only see 1 of the 4GB of internal memory. I don't know exactly why that is.
B) You said in the first post "i am running very low on memory".
C) In a question relating to something you said in your original post, I asked how you could possibly be running low on memory.
D) Relax. Breath. It's going to be ok. Discussions sometimes lead to other questions on related topics. You can't let those questions weigh on you... the burden is too much for a single man to carry. You just have to answer these related questions to free yourself from the awful stress.
what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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what about other phones with more then 4gigs like 8gigs of internal memory? do they still only have about 2gigs worth of space to play with? that's gotta be pretty bogus.
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The galaxy s series has 8-16gb but about 3 is set aside for OS and apps. There's one example.
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What I meant for running low on memory is more geared at the Rom taking a whooping 1 gig and out of the 2 gigs Android will see, out of the stupid 4 installed, and that leaves me with a whooping 1 gig. Not a whole lot. As it stands, I have about 800 mg left and I wouldn't consider that running low. We should have about a gig and a half available, if not more. Roms really are only about 250mb. REALLY?????
I guess I need to be a little more clear with my wording
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.
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pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which five me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
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Some people don't need a lot of space. I much prefer larger internal storage over SD card any day. Though i need 64 for all my music which is an issue with nexus devices. For many people 16 is enough though. 1 backup, decent amount of apps, little to no music, and all is well. Some people just have different needs. SD storage is slow and limited anyways. I wish it was completely rid of and larger internal storage options were offered for all devices. Google has been trying to get rid of SD card storage for quite a while.
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Some people don't need a lot of space. I much prefer larger internal storage over SD card any day. Though i need 64 for all my music which is an issue with nexus devices. For many people 16 is enough though. 1 backup, decent amount of apps, little to no music, and all is well. Some people just have different needs. SD storage is slow and limited anyways. I wish it was completely rid of and larger internal storage options were offered for all devices. Google has been trying to get rid of SD card storage for quite a while.
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can't store much porn on a 16gb phone...
Stream music and porn, streaming is the best. But you must have a good connextion where you live. For trips seagte wifi or OTG ftw.
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Stop hoping for SD Card storage, hope for return of USB On-The-Go is better!
In USB Flash drive, you can store so much HD Porn and tons of music and many more (impossible to super application there) using USB OTG!
But for me, 32GB is enough for everything
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I don't store music or movies on my phone so it has never been an issue.
At least on my SGS3 using a sdcard is pain because it always disconnects from the device.
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At least on my SGS3 using a sdcard is pain because it always disconnects from the device.
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never had this problem on sgs3 and nowadays on sgs4
This thread needed to be deleted, there has been at least 10,00 threads like this in the past. Nexus never had sdcard after the Nexus One. It never will get sdcard again in one million year, stop asking. Use cloud storage or USB OTG or get the 32gb version or buy a different phone. I wish it was against the forum rule to make these threads.
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This thread needed to be deleted, there has been at least 10,00 threads like this in the past. Nexus never had sdcard after the Nexus One. It never will get sdcard again in one a million year, stop asking. Use cloud storage or USB OTG or get the 32gb version or buy a different phone. I wish it was against the forum rule to make these threads.
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^ Exactly
x111 said:
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.
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You're right.
You deserve to treat yourself better.
If you don't like it get another phone.
Get a google play edition phone.
You have plenty of options nowdays.
How do people live without SD storage? Easy. Steam music, use cloud storage.
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^ Exactly
You're right.
You deserve to treat yourself better.
If you don't like it get another phone.
Get a google play edition phone.
You have plenty of options nowdays.
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Give that man a cookie!
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x111 said:
pls, someone explain how you guys who are using nexus 4 and going to get nexus 5, how you guys can possible use your phone without sdcard?
I just cannot image a using without sdcard which give me much extra space and freedom to change it and make backups.
sdcard is not just extra space, it is separate disc in your phone.
Also, the speed of micro sdcard such as "Kingston microSDHC/SDXC Card Class 10 64gb" never been issue for me on sgs4 i9505.
And for me it is terrible idea to use any external storage, while I can have everything inside my phone, all the time.
Here some talking about much more terrible idea, using cloud or stream services instead micro sdcard, this insane for me.
I cannot understand why Google is doing it, and why you folks follow this rule.
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It's called cloud storage...
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32gb is a good amount of storage on a phone. Need to make backups USB-OTG all the way for that and use cloud storage for allot of things. anything under 32gb for me is not enough.
cloud service is a crap to keep files to which you need access most of the time, I do not want pay for unlimited mobile internet which not every where available and have the same speed.
cloud service can be used just maybe for backup and sync, and of course for the files which you wanna share.
On my phone 16gb internal storage and 32gb micro sdcard and this amount very close to be full. And not going to manage my files just because google want it.
Then a NEXUS device is not for you. Use a phone that does support micro sdcard storage. I just hope, for your sake, that other device manufacturers don't follow suit and get rid of that old technology. :good:
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cloud service is a crap to keep files to which you need access most of the time, I do not want pay for unlimited mobile internet which not every where available and have the same speed.
cloud service can be used just maybe for backup and sync, and of course for the files which you wanna share.
On my phone 16gb internal storage and 32gb micro sdcard and this amount very close to be full. And not going to manage my files just because google want it.
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I disagree. Cloud is great..there is no way I'm getting my 500GB music collection on my phone while still using it as a phone, without the cloud. I use Subsonic, Google Music, and Pogoplug Cloud, as well as the usual Drive/Dropbox/Keep solutions for everyday junk. 16 or 32 becomes insiginificant once you move your mind into the cloud, either personal (subsonic,Pogo) or service provider (Google,Dropbox,etc.).
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I disagree. Cloud is great..there is no way I'm getting my 500GB music collection on my phone while still using it as a phone, without the cloud. I use Subsonic, Google Music, and Pogoplug Cloud, as well as the usual Drive/Dropbox/Keep solutions for everyday junk. 16 or 32 becomes insiginificant once you move your mind into the cloud, either personal (subsonic,Pogo) or service provider (Google,Dropbox,etc.).
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Thats it. I think google push cloud services a bit forward with every single release (Android, ChromeOS) and thats good in my eyes.
More users + more devices = increasing demand for faster mobile internet speed.
Only some mobile operators need to follow - their main purpose is still the same - pull from our pockets as much money as possible.
Just think what happend with CromeOS, great stuff but 70% people around the glob can't use OS for normal operations.
Again problem, slow internet connections. Google was sure in year 2012 world will be more hi-speed covered with optical internet.
I don't know if u know for project FLAG (Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe). Almost all world countrys are covered with optical
internet the main fu*king problem are our stupid internet providers. They still selling old technology.
Don't believe cloud storage will be a plausible alternative until mobile phone providers stop being money hungry power giants. On at&t its 10 bucks for a single gigabyte of data I believe. At least their 3gb plan is $30. That's insanely expensive if you plan on relying on cloud services to keep your media. I listen to music 2+ hours a day. I would be spending at least $100 on data overcharges a month. There is no way I plan on making a switch to cloud storage for at least the next 3-4 years. Even then I doubt mobile data charges will have gone down, at all. Maybe $7.50 a gigabyte but even that is way too much.
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Does the os really take up the much space?
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xXghostXx313 said:
Does the os really take up the much space?
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Yep, the OS and all the apps decompressed.
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Does the os really take up the much space?
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It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
If you want to read more, see http://lifehacker.com/5950506/why-doesnt-my-new-hard-drive-show-the-right-amount-of-space
Hard Drives Are Measured One Way, But Marketed Another
Why Doesn't My New Hard Drive Show the Right Amount of Space?
Here's the bigger reason you have less space: computers are based on binary math, which means storage is counted using base 2—not base 10, which is what you see on the box. So, while we measure a kilobyte as 1,000 bytes, Windows actually refers to a kilobyte as 1,024 bytes. Similarly, a megabyte is actually 1,024 kilobytes, a gigabyte is 1,024 megabytes, and so on. That means the actual amount of space on the drive is going to be lower than what you're told, with the difference being bigger as you get to bigger drives. In general, for each gigabyte reported on the box, you'll have about 70MB less space when you plug it in—which means that your 1TB drive has closer to 900GB as measured by Windows.
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It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
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Yea I know about the size not being actual 64gb but I thought the OS and apps were taking up to much space but its all good.
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xXghostXx313 said:
Yea I know about the size not being actual 64gb but I thought the OS and apps were taking up to much space but its all good.
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Oh your OP post was just a bit misleading/confusing ...... you can minimize the space it uses, a lot of the bloatware Google Apps are in the /system/ partition so it uses a lot of space on apps that you most likely won't even be using like Google Videos, Google Books, etc.
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It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
If you want to read more, see http://lifehacker.com/5950506/why-doesnt-my-new-hard-drive-show-the-right-amount-of-space
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Why is it always like this? Kinda sucks Advertize 64Gb, but only get 54. Where did 10GB go?
I remember when SSD first came out: 80GB only gave you 60GB, but there was one company that actually advertised the correct amount when customers got theirs I forget the company name.
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Why is it always like this? Kinda sucks Advertize 64Gb, but only get 54. Where did 10GB go?
I remember when SSD first came out: 80GB only gave you 60GB, but there was one company that actually advertised the correct amount when customers got theirs I forget the company name.
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I copy pasted a little snippet of a article on why its like that. But I agree, its crappy that its like that because you don't see the full amount. Yeah you could do the calculations and look it up on actual size but its definitely misleading.
apps space in one plus one
Can you please confirm how much space is reserved for apps? Or the entire storage less android system can be used please? Thanks and regards
It's a really funny key to push the new smaller SIM card out, so I guess the back cover does not come off? What about the memory card - did not find any slot for it?
Lol. Troll much
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Lmao man it sucks to be you.
I see a bunch of BS artists having nothing else to do than crapping in other people's posts...
Yes I paid $750 for the phone with no memory card - did not even ask the salesperson assumed it's there.
You get 100gb of free cloud storage with onedrive when you activate it on the note 5. So even though you lose on device storage, that's still a bonus to have space to put stuff when needed but not used daily.
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You get 100gb of free cloud storage with onedrive when you activate it on the note 5. So even though you lose on device storage, that's still a bonus to have space to put stuff when needed but not used daily.
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You wouldn't happen to know how long you get the free storage before having to pay for it do you?
2 years
Is there a way to move oculus apps to sdcard? I've just started using this thing and only 14.81 Gb is left . Reminds me Htc desire times, when we had ~140 mb of internal storage.. Well apps on those days were 100 kb - 2 mb in size Now oculus eats gazillions bytes of precious internal storage.
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
If it cannot move the Oculus apps to SD, then VR is going to flop. As 32 GB (24GB actually) is really insufficient to hold regular + VR apps.
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vukis said:
I skimmed few articles about adoptive storage, but as far as I understand Samsung throwed this away
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Give this a try http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
I went to one of my games for example and changed the storage location and it moved everything. I had to go to the application manager to do it. when you open the application in there just select the storage type which mentions internal and select internal and click move. worked like a charm
Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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Thank you @peachpuff I will try that
@milesk182 I know this feature but it does not work on oculus apps
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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@vukis, can you confirm that @peachpuff's solution works? I've only had my phone for about a month and am already out of space!!! I'll be more than happy to go buy a larger SD card if this method will work.
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Yes it works, make sure type out the disk stuff properly and migrate data at the end.
Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Didn't work for me - many Oculus games and apps don't give you the option to move them to the external storage (yes, even with adoptable storage configured).
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Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
Can confirm. With latest Samsung update can move regular apps to sdcard but not a single oculus app or game can move to adoptable storage.
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ned4spd8874 said:
Well crap! Haven't bought my card yet. Waiting for a good deal on a 200GB, I only have a 32GB now. Maybe by then they'll fix this. I have about 6 or so VR apps/games and it's killing my space! How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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The phone should have come with 64GB option really. The SD card, even the Samsung Evo Pro+ is slow. Actually, the internal memory controler for the SD card is half the speed of what the Pro+ supports on a PC. Sad really, and it's such a sweet phone. What a shame!
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How did they miss this? Seems like such a blunder to give these headsets out on a phone with limited memory and not give people the ability to add more!
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Probably on purpose because running huge VR games off a (possibly) slow SD card would cause performance issues.
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skywalkr2 said:
I thought you could move most apps to SD card, have you tried?
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To use the adaptable storage method you need at least a U3 card. I was about to buy one when I came across this app on google play:
Link2SD allows you to move Gear VR apps to external storage. I have moved 3 successfully and have not encounter a problem. There is a plus version which allows you to link after moving but I'm loving the free version so far!