[Q]Building the perfect android device. - General Questions and Answers

I often wonder about building the one.
But i'm also a realist so here goes.
My description of the perfect android device would be:
-Tegra 3 Chipset. "right now i love this chipset..
-4" screen O-led. 32bit's, 1024 x 640 resolution.
-3200mA cell.. 6400mA sold separately.
-It should have modular connectors on the sides so it can be transformed to a android handheld console with the control pads just sliding into place on the sides.
-Instead of a set of rom chips for the NAND there should be a small removable SDD drive. "way faster and makes swapping roms a breeze"
-Must run ICS all source must be fully open.
-No locked BL
-Must have: Hdmi out&in, audio out&in, USB 3 controller, multitouch and usual Gsm/2G/3G/4G/Wi-Fi/BlueTooth support.
Compatibility, Stability, Performance, Battery Life, Support.
^^^
All these conditions should be met with the highest respect.
Result profit.
Let me keep dreaming.
The reason why i posted here i want to hear opinions of other software AND hardware developers with out 4chan down there having a field day.\
I'm up for intelligent debate.

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It was less of a question and more a discussion.

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[Q] Soo, Whats the current or upcoming Smartphone pick?

Ive been out of the phone loop for a bit, due to buying a new computer and researching all the parts for that
So im trying to get back into the phone swing of things. My phone is pretty dated and slow. Last time i was around, i had my eyes on the HTC Sensation, tho it appears the Amaze has out done it alittle bit, however word on the street is that phone is on its way out. So this maybe a really broad question, but whats a good phone to pick with the following
* Can work/Does work on AT&T Network
* qHD disaply
* Multi-Core
* Flash (leds)
* Runs Android
I've been an HTC fan for awhile, but have seen some recent complaints. Im also not overly happy with them releasing the phones i prefer, on only T-mobile. I prefer the more rounded ones like Sensation and Amaze, yet they more square bricks are what gets dumped on AT&T (sorry, i dont like the Evo design)
So can anyone offer up some suggestions, current or future, or should i hold off for a while longer?
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Well it didnt feel like a "i have a problem, heres my question" thread to me, which is why i didnt post it in the Q&A. I felt it more like a general discussion to gather opinions..
Thanks for scolding me like a child in public tho. I will post every thread that has any kind of question in the Q&A tho from now on. So my apologies.

"Roku Development"?

Please note: title should read: "Roku HD Development." Not sure what happened there.
Hello all,
After a recent Roku HD purchase, I began thinking about potential underdevelopment for this device. Since they encourage development via the Roku SDK (Sorry, I cannot post links yet), I'd bet that creating an XDA channel to air among other thing, XDA-TV could have far reaching effects. Additionally, as far as I have seen thus far, nobody has uncovered a way to develop a quality Internet channel to enable functional web browsing. For my purposes, I'd like to steam webcasts offered on a website. One of my favorite web casts is currently underway and without a Roku, I'm confided to my Amaze.
Any thoughts?
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Understood. I intended it to me more of a discussion about the potential to undertake such a project rather than a simple question. Hopefully i can shake the green or "noob" fairly quick.
Back to the aforementioned topic, I wonder if it's possible to get the market up on this device. Talk about cool!
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[Q] Bricking

As a noob I am interested in a lowest common denominator definition for the reason a device "bricks".
The Wicki definition is very good indeed but I'd love your thoughts on an even more direct approach.
Is a phone designed to brick out of the gate by inadvertent and unintelligent use (come hell or high water): or is the device absolutely incapable of not bricking itself no matter how it is developed?
Dan
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Cross-Development Vs Development?

I'm sorry if these questions are in the wrong place and/or covered in other places... feel free to scold and educate me as necessary.
1: I've been using XDA for a while, and never seen the "Cross Development" forums until recently (specifically the OnePlus devices). What exactly is the difference between Development and Cross-Development. Is the "cross" referring cross-device, cross-nationality, cross-team, or the more ubiquitous form, cross-platform?
(I'm assuming it means cross-device, i.e. the 8 (non pro) x 8 Pro devices, or in the case of the 7, the 7 x 7t, x 7pro x 7t Pro).
2: If my assumption about cross-device is correct, why is this separation of forums necessary? If the roms, bootloader, etc are cross-compatible... isn't this separation superfluous?
Again, sorry if this is a very ignorant question... asking because I want to educate myself.
Rabid-Cabbit said:
I'm sorry if these questions are in the wrong place and/or covered in other places... feel free to scold and educate me as necessary.
1: I've been using XDA for a while, and never seen the "Cross Development" forums until recently (specifically the OnePlus devices). What exactly is the difference between Development and Cross-Development. Is the "cross" referring cross-device, cross-nationality, cross-team, or the more ubiquitous form, cross-platform?
(I'm assuming it means cross-device, i.e. the 8 (non pro) x 8 Pro devices, or in the case of the 7, the 7 x 7t, x 7pro x 7t Pro).
2: If my assumption about cross-device is correct, why is this separation of forums necessary? If the roms, bootloader, etc are cross-compatible... isn't this separation superfluous?
Again, sorry if this is a very ignorant question... asking because I want to educate myself.
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Your assumption is indeed correct, it means cross-device i.e. the published code (ROM's, kernel, mods etc.) are compatible to or suitable for all devices under the umbrella of this x-device sub-forum.
And technically, such a x-device forum exists only once as a sub-forum to a specific device forum; all other respective device fora are just bearing a link to the x-device forum. The purpose of the x-device fora is that a thread with the code, which is suitable for multiple platforms, is published only once and not two, three or four times through duplicate threads. Without precedence, first XDA likes not to have duplicate threads but second - and probably more important - it allows the thread owner and developer to focus for support, assistance and update on a single thread and withdraws the requirement to monitor multiple threads. This (except for the update portion) also applies to our great XDA members who always live the spirit of XDA and try to help and support other members.
Please advise if my explanation wasn't sufficient or if I misunderstood your question. I'm very happy to elaborate more if required.
Oswald Boelcke said:
Your assumption is indeed correct, it means cross-device i.e. the published code (ROM's, kernel, mods etc.) are compatible to or suitable for all devices under the umbrella of this x-device sub-forum.
And technically, such a x-device forum exists only once as a sub-forum to a specific device forum; all other respective device fora are just bearing a link to the x-device forum. The purpose of the x-device fora is that a thread with the code, which is suitable for multiple platforms, is published only once and not two, three or four times through duplicate threads. Without precedence, first XDA likes not to have duplicate threads but second - and probably more important - it allows the thread owner and developer to focus for support, assistance and update on a single thread and withdraws the requirement to monitor multiple threads. This (except for the update portion) also applies to our great XDA members who always live the spirit of XDA and try to help and support other members.
Please advise if my explanation wasn't sufficient or if I misunderstood your question. I'm very happy to elaborate more if required.
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You explained it perfectly, thank you!
It also explains why I haven't really seen the X-Device sub before, as most of my devices have been A) Carrier specific, or B) Samsung's typical Samsung nonsense which is about as un-crossable as they come from my experience.
Rabid-Cabbit said:
You explained it perfectly, thank you!
It also explains why I haven't really seen the X-Device sub before, as most of my devices have been A) Carrier specific, or B) Samsung's typical Samsung nonsense which is about as un-crossable as they come from my experience.
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I'm glad to hear that I could answer your question.
My first Android device was a Motorola Milestone 2 but since then all devices in our family are Samsungs; even our first ones, S3 LTE GT-i9305, are still in use with great satisfaction. I never buy the lastest but only used ones in good conditions, and my current daily driver is a Galaxy S8+, SM-G955F. But I've to say I was so far pretty happy with the x-device development available in the S8+ forum. However, I'm currently no longer actively monitoring development there as it seems that all have moved to Android 10 and above. And for different reasons, I'm not willing to go beyond Pie - even if security patches aren't anylonger available; but this has also to do with my personal use of a smartphone or better with what I will never use it for.
Enjoy the day - but stay safe and stay healthy!
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Oswald Boelcke
Oswald Boelcke said:
I'm glad to hear that I could answer your question.
My first Android device was a Motorola Milestone 2 but since then all devices in our family are Samsungs; even our first ones, S3 LTE GT-i9305, are still in use with great satisfaction. I never buy the lastest but only used ones in good conditions, and my current daily driver is a Galaxy S8+, SM-G955F. But I've to say I was so far pretty happy with the x-device development available in the S8+ forum. However, I'm currently no longer actively monitoring development there as it seems that all have moved to Android 10 and above. And for different reasons, I'm not willing to go beyond Pie - even if security patches aren't anylonger available; but this has also to do with my personal use of a smartphone or better with what I will never use it for.
Enjoy the day - but stay safe and stay healthy!
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
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I totally understand. I hated android 5 and 6 with a fiery passion previously unbeknownst to mankind. I refused to upgrade and stuck with 4.4.2 pretty much until android 7/8. To be honest, I still prefer the mod scene and rom scene from good ol' 4.4 days. I really dislike Material (Most would say my opinion is "unpopular" at best, and downright stupid to most). Whether I like it or not, Android, Carriers, Manufacturers, and Developers are changing, and right along with them, XDA is as well. ( If you notice my -signature- the devices don't upgrade by model or release, they pretty much coincide with android upgrades that I liked, lol)
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I totally understand. I hated android 5 and 6 with a fiery passion previously unbeknownst to mankind. I refused to upgrade and stuck with 4.4.2 pretty much until android 7/8. To be honest, I still prefer the mod scene and rom scene from good ol' 4.4 days. I really dislike Material (Most would say my opinion is "unpopular" at best, and downright stupid to most). Whether I like it or not, Android, Carriers, Manufacturers, and Developers are changing, and right along with them, XDA is as well. ( If you notice my -signature- the devices don't upgrade by model or release, they pretty much coincide with android upgrades that I liked, lol)
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Absolutely correct, and we could continue this discussion or these talks for days - all flavoured with own experiences.
By the way: I think this is not device i.e. OP 8 Pro related. Would you mind if I move the thread to the general Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
Oswald Boelcke said:
Absolutely correct, and we could continue this discussion or these talks for days - all flavoured with own experiences.
By the way: I think this is not device i.e. OP 8 Pro related. Would you mind if I move the thread to the general Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
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Tbh id like to see device specific treble ROMs within device development sections or a sticky in discussion.
The treble sections although busy are littered with poor souls who have specific questions and many don't get answers.
There's a strength in treble which hasn't been explored or exploited as much as it should have been due to a lack of clarity between devices.
Even a known issues or knowledge base section would work.
It'll end up with everyone simply ignoring treble due to a lack of info on each GSI..
dladz said:
Tbh id like to see device specific treble ROMs within device development sections or a sticky in discussion.
The treble sections although busy are littered with poor souls who have specific questions and many don't get answers.
There's a strength in treble which hasn't been explored or exploited as much as it should have been due to a lack of clarity between devices.
Even a known issues or knowledge base section would work.
It'll end up with everyone simply ignoring treble due to a lack of info on each GSI..
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The decision if and when a device receives its own forum solely rests with the administrators (as far as I know in close coordination with the site owners). I'm also aware that they take multiple aspects into consideration but I'm lacking details. And same applies to dedicated sub-fora or sections.
I'm not familiar with treble ROM's or GSI's due to my devices but more my personal requirements especially regarding privacy. I guess I haven't changed the system on my daily used device for more than one year. Why to change a running horse?
Consider to provide your suggestions to the site's admins via the XDA Contacts & Help. It carries a specific form for (private) suggestions to make XDA better: https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#suggestion. But if you want to go publicly I suggest this thread that you already know and where also we both communicated: [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA
Oswald Boelcke said:
The decision if and when a device receives its own forum solely rests with the administrators (as far as I know in close coordination with the site owners). I'm also aware that they take multiple aspects into consideration but I'm lacking details. And same applies to dedicated sub-fora or sections.
I'm not familiar with treble ROM's or GSI's due to my devices but more my personal requirements especially regarding privacy. I guess I haven't changed the system on my daily used device for more than one year. Why to change a running horse?
Consider to provide your suggestions to the site's admins via the XDA Contacts & Help. It carries a specific form for (private) suggestions to make XDA better: https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#suggestion. But if you want to go publicly I suggest this thread that you already know and where also we both communicated: [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA
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Aye I'll suggest it
In a nut shell what will happen is, someone will make a treble ROM. Then everyone from all corners of XDA and wider will turn up and say will this work on this device or this device..
9/10 they won't get an answer. That's what I'm driving at..

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