Help to test a radio player - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm looking for some WP7 owners to help test a radio player I'm developing for these phones.
It's browser-based, so there's no need to install anything.
I'm basically interested in which phones play which audio formats.
So far, I've noticed the Samsung phones play AAC+ radio streams, yet the Nokia phones do not (despite listing AAC+ as a supported codec!)
Please drop me a line at www.radiofeeds.co.uk/form.html if you'd like to help out.
Any HTC/LG phone owners are especially encouraged.
Thanks!

OK, the player is now live. Just point your phone's browser towards www.radiofeeds.co.uk and you should see an additional link at the top of the page.
Any further comments and feedback are welcome, either as replies on this thread, or directly to me through the email form at www.radiofeeds.co.uk/form.html
I've not had any testers with LG phones yet, so if you can report on whether AAC+ streams work with LG phones or not, that would be fab.

They all worked (MP3 and AAC) on my HTC Trophy (U.S.) The first radio station took under a minute to load but the rest loaded with in a second or so. All stations did not buffer and the sound quality was great; not bad for a stream all the way from London.

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shoutcast mobile

hi everyone. i ve searched for mobile version of shoutcast.com with no luck so i ve created my self. http://mobilust.net/shoutcast is the address for now its basic. got genre listings and you can start listening by clicking to the radio names. system is live and uses shoutcast's xml feed data to create internet radio listings.
i will add more features to it eventually. just wanted to let people know
thanks. I'll use this from time to time....
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is there a shoucast player for WM5/6 devices?
nokia has one for S60 devices - http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html
GSPlayer will allow you to play the Shoutcast streams
does Conduits pocket player 3.2 support shout cast?....and if so how do I add it?
Or if you would like to use a shoutcast for mobile but don't want to see a porno picture you can use http://mobile.treobits.com/index.php?ind=shoutcast
I want to make something without any adds. so where I get those xlm's?
or can it be done?
batesie said:
is there a shoucast player for WM5/6 devices?
nokia has one for S60 devices - http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html
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Please make sure you read all my articles - I've listed all the SHOUTcast-capable clients in the chart of my dedicated article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350181
Maybe not the most efficient way, but the way I went after this was to install Core Player then, on my PC, go to the Shoutcast website and right click the Tune In link and select 'Save As'. I then named the .pls file after the station. Once I saved a bunch of stations I was interested in, I copied the (very small) .pls files to my device (AT&T Fuze). I now just launch Core Player, Click Menu, Click Open File, and select the .pls file for the station I want to listen to.
It is a bit of hassle to gather up all the .pls files you want, but this works very well for me. I work in a cubicle at work where our proxy blocks everything enjoyable, so with my HTC ear buds and my phone plugged into USB for power, my work day is much more enjoyable with music to listen to.
Edit: I just tried jamespaulritter's link above, and it works fabulously. I just click Tune In on the station I want, and it goes right to Core Player and gets down to business. Thanks, jamespaulritter!
Kinoma Play
Comes with SHOUTcast , and Live365 in the services menu.
I went ahead and bought Kinoma Play. Holy cow, man! This thing is the holy grail of portable entertainment!
Yeah, it is really versitile and I love the guide content. I just wish the menu system worked better. back, back, back, back to get to the main menu gets old.
Thanks! love this site
jamespaulritter said:
Or if you would like to use a shoutcast for mobile but don't want to see a porno picture you can use http://mobile.treobits.com/index.php?ind=shoutcast
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This is the only site you need. Basically a reproduction of the actual shoutcast site.
great man
1. thanks for the site.. u did a great job
2. Kinoma works Great on HD2 with the WIFI.. but with 3g Kinoma couldn't stream any sounds.. so i use this site to stream with TCPMP player..
realy good job.
now what do we do for phone 7. love to have something pinned to the start page but pls seems not supported

Yes You Can Stream Live Internet Radio

So this is now my 2nd official post (1st was apps2sd for newbies) and i know many people have been trying to stream live internet radio stations (.pls,.aac,.aac+,.asf,.asx & .m3u files) on the Android OS.
As of now there really isnt a way to play all of those files but yes you can stream them.My last phone was the T-Mobile Wing an i was accustomed to streaming tuned.mobi on my TCPMP and so i was determined to find a way of getting me local radio stations back because i can't live without my sports radio WFAN 66 (NY station).Heres the instructions of getting this to work:
INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Download StreamFurious from the android market (Theres a free and paid version,i use the free version)
2. Go to tuned.mobi from your phone browser and from there just choose your country you will find your EVERY local radio stations to stream.
3. To stream the station you want just click on the stream bit for the station
example: 64kb,128kb (will be highlighted in blue)
WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT PLAY:
You can ONLY stream stations with MP3 (.PLS,.M3U & .AAC) or OggVorbis links
You CANNOT stream any links that says AAC+ or WMP next to them (Windows Media Player formats is not support on Android through streams as of yet. (.asf or.asx etc..))
That's it folks.Good Luck...Now all i need is my Slingplayer for Android OS and i have everything i had on my Wing and more
If anyone has a way of getting WMP formats to stream live radio please let me know because of all my favorite radio station there's 2 that i can't have on the go due to this issue. (Hot97 & Z100 NY stations)
Hey good looking bro. I was wondering if this was possible. I know Tunewiki says you can get local radio but that app leaves much to be desired. Im gonna try this and see what happens.
My friend just turned me on to StreamFurious I love it. Thank for letting posting about tune.mobi i will have to check it out
Dude you are a awesome. I was able to find the two local stations I listen to and streamfurious loaded them just fine. I was already using streamfurious before this and loved it and now it's perfect. So my friends with FM tuners in their cell phones can go to hell...lol
I love StreamFurious. Your post actually prompted me to make this Way, Way Too May Reboots thread because when I run SF my phone loves to reboot.
Does anyone else's do the same? If so and idea why and how to fix?
I like friskyradio.com in SF for electronic music.
I dont know how i could have ever overlooked an app like this. I been wondering for the longest if something like this was eveb available. Much thx to the op.
Quick question tho, anyone know where i can find a site or something that can stream Howard 100. I ask because i noticed that within the app you can select Howard 101 but they usually dont broadcast the re-runs etc of the show on the channel. I been out of the loop with the show for a while. Would like to take advantage of this app thx again
Thanks for the heads up on the tuned.mobi service. I have been using SF for a while already but some local channels don't have mp3 streams available (many CBSRadio stations) and this let me tune into them with SF.
BTW, maybe this thread belongs in the apps subforum?
I got windows media streams on my G1 by using the AndrOrb app and setting up the stream as a custom radio station on the orb website.
dunno if thats any good to you.
Streamfurious is the best one I've seen for Android.
The other two I have found are FlyCast and AntPlayer. FlyCast has the benefit of showing album covers. It rotates between album cover, song info and ads. It's a little annoying, but it's easier to see what is playing than the tiny text on Streamfurious.
I just found AntPlayer today. It has a very nice search feature. You don't need to know the URL.
tekkyjim said:
I got windows media streams on my G1 by using the AndrOrb app and setting up the stream as a custom radio station on the orb website.
dunno if thats any good to you.
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That sounds interesting,i will try that because 2 of my fav stations are WMP formats.Thank you.
Streanfurious is good but OR Player is better
Awesome app. Thanks for the heads up!

Question for a Fuze/Rapheal user about vid playback

I did some digging on this subject, couldn't really find a definite answer on the subject. I currently own a tilt, and am considering purchasing a fuze, since with the announcement of the tilt 2, they are dropping in price. But my concern is power! You might know, that the Tilt has some video driver issues, as in can't play h.264/mp4's too well, i.e. any video podcasts i download. I'm also hoping to get emulators running smoothly with sound, but thats not too important. So my question is this, is this issue resolved on the Fuze? I noticed a thread stickied discussing touch pro performance, but nothing really says "it's fixed". Saw a few posts saying the drivers are still crap though. Thanks for any help! (and sorry if it's already posted, and i just couldn't find it)
Fixed - no!
Watchable - yes, depending on the files you're starting with of course.
Being VGA (tilt is qvga) everything on the screen looks much better and coreplayer does make most things play quite well.
Basically I have found that you can play any format video on this device very smoothly, AS LONG as it doesnt use the dolby AC3 Codec for audio as coreplayer wont play this and you need to revert to the older, non hardware supporting TCMP. Luckily this means about 5% of my media
im hsving problems with the coreplayer key
HTC Album/full screen player plays .mp4's pretty well. Unfortunately, it has a sucky UI (rather, it doesn't have an interface).
you can use newer version of full screen player and htc album which have better interface controls. i would still spring for core player. plays my divx videos perfectly, full visual framerate and matching audio. much better than divxplayer.
Thanks for the replies you guys! So, just to clarify, if I bought a fuze, and downloaded any random video podcast, which is usually mp4, 640x480, I wouldn't be disappointed?

Midi

Hi.
Just in case anyone starts shouting at me, I think I've searched everywhere for an answer so now I'm asking (feel defensive today - sorry)
Are WM phones capable of MIDI synthesis? I've been a little bit envious of the various instruments that are available for certain fruit-related machines that synthesise the sound, not play recordings and I am surprised that I can't find something similar on for WM.
Any ideas?
Cheers
p.s. current phone is HTC HD2 with 1.6 Stock ROM
Moved as not software release.
kinsago said:
Hi.
Just in case anyone starts shouting at me, I think I've searched everywhere for an answer so now I'm asking (feel defensive today - sorry)
Are WM phones capable of MIDI synthesis? I've been a little bit envious of the various instruments that are available for certain fruit-related machines that synthesise the sound, not play recordings and I am surprised that I can't find something similar on for WM.
Any ideas?
Cheers
p.s. current phone is HTC HD2 with 1.6 Stock ROM
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YES! I have been using commercial software that is a bit dated but still very usable on the past two generations of WM devices. You may still be able to buy it, but I must admit I have not seen it around for some time. It is by a company called IntelliArt, and is called "IntelliArt Midi Player". It was written in 2004/2005 and I think I must have bought it around that time. The web-site is www.intelliart.com (surprise!) and I have what think was the last version, version 4.0.0. It works with midi files and the intstrument sounds are pretty good. The GUI is a bit non standard in places, but very usable indeed. It has 16 channels, and a full set of standard GM Midi sounds. You can vary the tempo, mute channels etc. Played through speakers or headphones the sounds are pretty good but are never going to equal better PC samples. I use it for learning piano, creating midi files on a PC score writer. It is handy to have a portable midi player to carry about.
This might sound too enthusiastic but it is good - and NO, I do not work for them!
Hope you can find it?
http://www.google.com/search?source...etpc&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=lr=&aq=null&oq=
tried some of these?
Rudegar said:
http://www.google.com/search?source...etpc&btnG=Google-søgning&meta=lr=&aq=null&oq=
tried some of these?
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Sorry to pop up again..... yes, I had tried all these and all found wanting compared to the one in my post above! I was into music/midi in a big way and investigated and trialled somewhat exhaustively. For example the midi sound samples that you can find to work with the GS Player are not great sounding. The IntelliArt player even has playlists which the others have not implemented as successfully.
I find that the enthusiasm for midi seems to have deserted the WM market place. There is a dearth of any good and new products. The Apple marketplace is buzzing, although it is not one I need to get into, despite the midi offerings. Like others, I have a big investment in WM software.

Is it possible to encode a DVD for the HD2 that doesn’t have “lip sync” issues??

I would be really, really greatfull if anybody could point me in the direction of any video/audio encoder software for a pc that I will convert a DVD to MP4 that will play on the HD2 with out BLOODY LIP SYNC issues??? (I don’t mind paying for it if it works)
I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to play any MP4 material on the HD2 with out the video/audio sync being out.
I used to own a HD1 and used protection’s great free app for this and the results were very good. Video was a little bit jerky but the lip sync was spot on
The audio is about a second behind when I play those files on the HD2???????, (When playing them on a PC sync is also spot on, so the video is not artificially delayed for the purposes of being in sync for the HD1)
I have tried Videora HTC Converter; trial version of DVD Catalyst 3, Handbrake, and Mp4ForHD and no matter how I set them up the lip sync is always out???
The main reason I upgraded to a HD2 was because of the large screen and fast processor for playing back video but it is worse that the HD1 due to lip sync. (also the video is still not any where near as smooth as the iphone and it has a 1GHz processor!!!!)
I am beginning to get very disappointed in the HD2 and any help would be much appreciated.
(P.S, this is using stock rom and various Cooked roms and the results as the same)
Thanks
Jason
Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
Neo XL said:
Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
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Cheers for reply Neo XL, will give it a go
I had the same problem, but got good results from: mp4forHD. There is an update/add-on for the HD2 which gives good picture and sound. Easy to use and all the settings are there for you.
Plays back perfectly in the standard HD2 video player.
Search this forum for the link....
this is the answer to your request
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649798
enjoy!
I use Handbrake 0.9.4,
Settings : MP4 , i dont use H.264,
Use FFmpeg, bitrate : 1500Kbps for anime, 2000Kbps for movie/songs.
Plays flawlessly on HD2.
converted 1080p, 720p, DVD, Youtube HD Vids, all to mp4 and plays well on HD2. no problem.
Thanks for all the answers, I have tried them all and I find that the lip sync is still out?
On mp4forHD, I used the HD2 profile and the sync was still way out.
I found that Handbrake 0.9.4, was the best using MP4, instead of H.264 but it is still not perfect.
I am playing the material using both WMP and HTC player. What I am doing wrong?
The HD2 is a bit if a disappointment to me in the video play back department considering its spec it promised so much.
I already used protections Video encoding GUI for my HD1 and don’t recall any lip sync issues on that device.
hi all,
3/4 of synchronization problems come from encoding when it is done with a variable rate codec VBR, for greater compatibility, it is recommended to use a fixed rate compression call CBR when encoding audio
Ok, but what I don’t understand is why files that are perfectly in sync when played on a pc and on the HD1 are out of sync when played on the HD2???
It’s as if the only way to get them in sync is to artificially delay the video when encoding...
I could sort of understand it more if it was the other way round as video generally takes longer to process than audio, but why should the audio be around 0.5 to 1 second delayed??? Don’t make sense to me.
Another thing I have noticed is that videos plays a lot smother when using WMP than using the HTC player, which is a shame as the HTC player is nicer to use in my opinion. The disappointing thing is I really didn’t expect any juddering of video on the HD2 after using the HD1 considering that it has a 1ghz processor which is FOUR times fast than the HD1, and I certainly wasn’t expecting this annoying lip sync issue.
People I know with iphones just laugh when I show them the never 100% smooth and, at best, slightly out of sync video performance on the HD2. The only thing they are jealous of is the bigger screen, which rumours say the next iphone will address.
Oh well, I suppose you have to put it down to the HD2’s main handicap, Windows Mobile. Hope version WM7 is better (if we can even use it on our HD2’s) sorry rambling onto a completely new subject now.
Never really had any massive problems with Handbrake. Ripped Top Gun and it was perfectly in sync for the entire movie.
If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
i use imTOO ultimate video converter. converted Spiderman, great quality and great sound. 10/10. file size was about 1.2gb. around the same size of transformers that it came with. but it looks the same
curiousGeorge said:
If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
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What programs can you use that will create an audio delay?
Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
cMMY69 said:
Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
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Sorry, but it's not a software issue at all. The only way "SPB Mobile DVD" or any other conversion program can produce files which play without the audio delay is if these programs ruin the video by delaying in the opposite direction. Yes, there are programs that you can use to introduce a negative delay--ffdshow will do it if you can get directshow to use it. Avisynth has a delayaudio(float) function which accepts negative values.
But none of these workarounds solves the problem of why all audio is delayed on the HD2. Not just videos--Games, etc all have the problem. Coreplayer is a software decoder you can use to set a manual delay decoder-side... but this means you can't use the powersaving video acceleration of the device, and the files don't play back properly (skipped frames, reduced colors, no HE-AAC support, aliasing).
I have tried just about every bit software and settings on this forum and I am unable to get any decent quality in sync results.
Thought I would try SPB Mobile DVD, don’t what I am doing wrong, but I can’t seem to get it to convert from a DVD. It gets al the way to the last screen then just “freezes” and doesn’t start converting. Have tried with a number of DVD’s.
It starts converting ok when I pick a single file to convert, (it for some reason will only let you select one file and not multiple DVD files from this option??) but I don’t want to do that, I want to convert a DVD.
Any Ideas?????
That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
curiousGeorge said:
That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
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Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DVD Encode
I've found there is no need to encode Dvds specifically for the hd2. I've downloaded films from the net and copied them straight to the sd card. Played them through coreplayer and they play perfectly. Divx play with great quality.
jab1972 said:
Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because that video was encoded with a audio delayed added. It's a system flaw of the HD2 to play normal in synced video with a slight audio delay. Not really that audible to those who ain't looking for it, but it's there. And unless HTC does something to solve it, posting it in every thread out there isn't gonna change anything but sound irritating.
Do you know how to use the DVD encoding portion of winmenc? That could account for your wrong outputs. Or are the dvds CSS protected? Only non-protected dvds can be decoded direct. If not, you should use an app like DVDShrink to extract and decode those dvds to your pc, then use those source files in winmenc. Those will encode fine.

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