Hey ya!
Well, I've heard about the upcoming first two dual-core Sony devices: Xperia S and Xperia Ion. They look really tempting and I consider buying one of them (Unlocked version). The thing is that I live in Israel (technologically it is considered as Europe by most of the companies) and I've understood that the Xperia Ion is AT&T exclusive. On the other hand, I've seen that an unlocked version is offered for pre-order.
What does it mean? Can I use an Ion in Europe with my own SIM card or do I have to buy the Xperia S which is international?
And another question: From what I've seen it is pretty difficult to decide which one of them to buy, mostly because they are very alike. Would you help me decide what to choose?
Thanks very much in advance,
MasterLinuxer.
Most probably they will release an unlocked version, and they will release it in the international markets few months after releasing it in USA.
Even if you bought a locked version, there are many ways to unlock it, search in google and you will find many tutorials
In addition I found an unlocked version available for preorder at this website
http://www.popularelect.com/Sony-Xperia-S-Unlocked-Quad-Band-GSM-Smartphone-p/xperias.htm
The Ion is the exclusive one, the s is international. The link that you posted is weird.. they offer an SD card although the S doesn't support it, and also it is written that it has 8 mp camera while it has 12 mp...
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Folks,
Right now we can get the Z2 No-carrier version here in the US (it was in the Sony store, but not anymore; still, you can get it from online US retailers). I know we are getting the T-Mobile branded Z3, so my question is: Do you guys think that the Z3 No-carrier version will be sold here in the US as the Z2 was/is?
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I believe so, as it's the first hit on Sony Mobile's US website:
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/
It makes sense for Sony to offer it unlocked in order to compete successfully with the other major players.
Incidentally, unlocked Z2 is available but backordered with a listed ship date of 10/8
http://m.store.sony.com/categories/unlocked-phones~cat-27-catid-All-Unlocked-Phones/products
Hmmm interesting. How much do you think it'll cost? 750?
Probably, that seems to be the ceiling with Sony direct.
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I believe so, as it's the first hit on Sony Mobile's US website:
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/
It makes sense for Sony to offer it unlocked in order to compete successfully with the other major players.
Incidentally, unlocked Z2 is available but backordered with a listed ship date of 10/8
http://m.store.sony.com/categories/unlocked-phones~cat-27-catid-All-Unlocked-Phones/products
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I am not so sure... This is where you get when you go to Mobile/Phones;
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
Just the T-Mobile... REally hope the Non-Branded Z3 comes to the US !!!
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting the Sony Xperia Z3. I just have one quick question.
A while back I purchased the Xperia Z (C6602) from sony directly and I used it on tmobiles network. After purchasing the phone I found out that tmobile sold the (C6603). These phones are similar, however they do have different specs.
My main question is, is there any difference between the Xperia Z3 that tmobile is selling compared to the Xperia Z3 that is sold directly by sony? (other than the available colors)
Thank you for your help!!!
jroberts1030 said:
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting the Sony Xperia Z3. I just have one quick question.
A while back I purchased the Xperia Z (C6602) from sony directly and I used it on tmobiles network. After purchasing the phone I found out that tmobile sold the (C6603). These phones are similar, however they do have different specs.
My main question is, is there any difference between the Xperia Z3 that tmobile is selling compared to the Xperia Z3 that is sold directly by sony? (other than the available colors)
Thank you for your help!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/t-mobile-z3-unlocked-z3-t2872122
Two things primarily: The T-Mobile model has 32 GB of RAM vs. 16 GB and its bootloader is locked.
Mashuri said:
Two things primarily: The T-Mobile model has 32 GB of RAM vs. 16 GB and its bootloader is locked.
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Also the T-Mobile one has LTE Band 12 which no other model has.
You mean 32gb storage, it has 3gb of ram
Tmobile version has band 12 and wifi calling.
And the T-Mobile is only in black and carrier branding...no thanks!
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Reason I would reccomend, TMO version is the 14 day replacement/exchange period. I went through 3 and on 4th and possibly final one. If you buy from Sony directly you will be stuck without a device for weeks if you send it in due to defects only to probably get a refurbished one.
The TMO emblem is pretty conspicuous unlike Verizon so that should not be an issue.
jroberts1030 said:
Hey guys,
I am looking into getting the Sony Xperia Z3. I just have one quick question.
A while back I purchased the Xperia Z (C6602) from sony directly and I used it on tmobiles network. After purchasing the phone I found out that tmobile sold the (C6603). These phones are similar, however they do have different specs.
My main question is, is there any difference between the Xperia Z3 that tmobile is selling compared to the Xperia Z3 that is sold directly by sony? (other than the available colors)
Thank you for your help!!!
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Try this thread, I have also replied there. There are some differences...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/international-d6603-vs-t-mobile-d6616-t2915894
abhinav.tella said:
Reason I would reccomend, TMO version is the 14 day replacement/exchange period. I went through 3 and on 4th and possibly final one. If you buy from Sony directly you will be stuck without a device for weeks if you send it in due to defects only to probably get a refurbished one.
The TMO emblem is pretty conspicuous unlike Verizon so that should not be an issue.
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I think you mean to say "inconspicuous" . Anyways I agree, looking at it, it's also a much lighter shade of gray/white than the Xperia or Sony logo, so it actually blends in quite well. There's also no T-Mobile branding on the front, which is really nice.
Hardware differences:
32GB Storage
T-Mobile Branding on back
Band 12
Software:
Bloat: http://imgur.com/oXLCzjj
Bloat not removed: wifi hotspot needs hotspot on plan, Device Unlock
Bloat that needs PM BLOCK: CarrierIQ
No bootloader unlock
I believe only the T-Mobile version has wifi calling.
You can opt out of Carrier IQ, the bloat is not so bad actually fewer than most carriers and they can all be disabled. For the extra 16GB its worth it. Only thing for you to care about is the boot-loader unlock. WiFi calling is also a plus.
Knowing how bad T-Mobile is with software updates, T-Mobile users will probably never get Android M update for Z3.
Wondering if there is a way to install Sony's International software version on t mobile's D6616, so we can get Android M update?
Is it gonna be stable?
Instruction would be helpful, I never done this kind of thing before.
Also, Sony might have new UI for Z3 in Sweden, maybe it will come with Android M in the future!!
What are you talking about? There has been no notice about Android M from Sony or T-Mobile. We'll probably get it 3 months after the international push.
There's no way to convert the T-mobile D6616 to an international model due to locked bootloader. But even if it were possible, you'd lose the 32GB and radio compatibility. At that point, it would be wise to sell your Tmobile model an buy the 16GB international model.
Hey all,
So Handtec just released what version they will be getting and its the E6603, seems to have all the bands necessary for AT&T. There is also a E6653 available from Clove, I looked at the developer thing from sony, there seems to be no difference in the bands. So what is the difference in model number.
With that said... I have been rocking an iPhone 6 Plus the last year. This is my first iPhone and while it is nice. I have been itching to get back to Android. I got an invite to buy a Oneplus 2 and bought it, now I'm regretting it. The sony seems like the device to get, I rocked the z3 for about a month when it came out. I have thought of using the Oneplus for a month until the Z5 comes out, but not sure... Thoughts?
only difference as far as the whitepaper goes is that the e6603 supports cat4 LTE, and the e6653 supports cat6
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Do we know which one will have an unlockable bootloader? Or is it too early to know?
Uclydde said:
Do we know which one will have an unlockable bootloader? Or is it too early to know?
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none of these seem destined to head to T-Mobile as a specific variant, so both can probably be unlocked, as per usual.
Ordered E6653 today, will be here next week.
HELP???
I live in the usa,and ordered the e6603 from handtec. Should I get the cat 6 capable e6653 from clove instead? Also I can't seem to find that model on clove.
mas5acre said:
I live in the usa,and ordered the e6603 from handtec. Should I get the cat 6 capable e6653 from clove instead? Also I can't seem to find that model on clove.
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Really a personal choice. If the only difference is cat 4 or cat 6 LTE it doesn't really matter. I ordered E6653 because its available now from a seller I have dealt with on numerous occasions in Taipei.
I assume this topic also goes for the compact models as the white paper shows the same differences. Still torn between z5 and compact but was considering doing it now from probably the same eBay seller. I'm in the USA anything I need to worry about ordering one of those phone such as it being stuck on another language or being locked (if they claim its unlocked which I do believe it is)
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I use eBay seller 23port. I have purchased a few phones from them and never had an issue. Always brand new unlocked devices. Shipped today, arriving Wednesday.
Are we able to use the cat6 lte on cat4 network? At&t still doesn't have a lot of cat6 lte band. If I buy E6653, will I be able to use the LTE for AT&T?
bcbulz said:
Are we able to use the cat6 lte on cat4 network? At&t still doesn't have a lot of cat6 lte band. If I buy E6653, will I be able to use the LTE for AT&T?
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Not sure but I'll let you know Wednesday
augie7107 said:
Not sure but I'll let you know Wednesday
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Thank you!!
Is anyone aware of any online retailers that sell the E6653 variant? I can't seem to find any expect bizrus oline which doesn't ship to the US apparent or at least I can't find that option.
For anyone who wanted to know, a reddit user confirmed that the E6653 model is bootloader unlockable.
Any way you could post the link? I've been searching for confirmation on this for days
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Thank you!!
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Device actually arrived yesterday, not bad for shipping from Taiwan on Friday. Anyway, took it out last night and this morning but not getting LTE on AT&T. LTE Discovery app shows band 17 available but the device is not connecting to it. Network setting is 4G preferred. Must have something to do with cat 6 vs cat 4. I am in a fairly rural area in New England. Anyone else get an E6653 on AT&T in a major metropolitan area that can chime in?
Hi
i really like to swap to using a sony phone.. and recently there's been a lot of promoting for second hand sonys and they're relatively very cheap... there's xperia 5 mark 3 for only 230 usd... but the catch is they're Docomo variant and i asked around , they don't get much love...
my question is are they that bad (docomo)? and why so cheap
problems with updates or stuff...
zanst1234 said:
Hi
i really like to swap to using a sony phone.. and recently there's been a lot of promoting for second hand sonys and they're relatively very cheap... there's xperia 5 mark 3 for only 230 usd... but the catch is they're Docomo variant and i asked around , they don't get much love...
my question is are they that bad (docomo)? and why so cheap
problems with updates or stuff...
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Docomo is Japanese variant (SO-53B). I also believe that SO-53B is network locked and also the bootloader cannot be unlocked either. I'm also not sure but it's possible that the hardware for the radio is slightly different too. Can't say for sure tho.
bentree said:
Docomo is Japanese variant (SO-53B). I also believe that SO-53B is network locked and also the bootloader cannot be unlocked either. I'm also not sure but it's possible that the hardware for the radio is slightly different too. Can't say for sure tho.
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do you think that they don't perform as well as the other variants?
zanst1234 said:
do you think that they don't perform as well as the other variants?
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I think the hardware difference is down to the NFC setup as japan uses a few different forms of tap to pay. Not so much bad performance but you are stuck with the carrier supplied firmware and Japan carriers have a poor reputation for regular updates.