LG Optimus 3D
my phone came with 48 applications. plus 10 3d applications.
there's a lot of crap I don't use and I want them gone.
I need to factory reset anyway just to install god damn skype again. but I want to know if will remove these apps.
I won't root AT ALL because I know nothing of it and can't take the chance of losing my warranty.
3d apps:
3d camera
3d gallery
3d games
3d games & apps
3d guide
3d space
asphalt 6
gullivers travels
lets golf 2
nova
apps:
alarm clock - i use
angry birds - i use
application manager - i use
browser - i use
calculator - i use
calendar - i use
call log - i use
camera - i use
car home - never used it but useful I suppose.
contacts - i use
email - i use
facebook - i use
finance - useless for me
gallery - i use
gmail - what is the point of gmail if I have email app already?
google search - i use
latitude - built with google maps I think.
LG world - no idea what this is.
mobile backup - no idea what this is. must be a subscriber? call 611? wtf?
maps - i use
android market - i use
messaging - i use
music - i use
rogers my account - i use
navigation - i use
yahoo news - i use
on demand (Rogers) - no idea what this is.
phone - i use lol.
places - i use
polaris office - used it once to open a pdf.
rich note - never used it.
rogers ringbacks - useless crap
rogers ringtones - useless crap. just links to a webpage like above.
rogers navigation - useless crap. google is better. rogers you have to pay for.
settings - i use
rogers shop - just links to a stupid webpage
smartshare - no idea what this is.
google talk - dont use
twitter - dont use
rogers urMusic - Horrible layout with ads. worse than the standard android music player.
video player - never used it but useful I guess if you copy movies.
nuance voice control - useful I suppose
voice recorder - useful I suppose
voice search - never used.
weather - useless.
what's new - never used
youtube - i use
flash player settings - never touched.
downloads:
google translate
soundhound
google earth
scanner radio
wifi finder
gstrings
mobile metronome
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WILL factory reset wipe these?
I cannot ROOT my phone. #1 because I don't know how. #2 because I can risk voiding warranty.
Factory wipe will only reset it back to how it was when you got the device... with all those apps. I know in ICS it lets you all but remove apps like hides them and kills them but your device doesn't have ICS.
I would suggest getting a third party launcher like Launcher pro or ADW EX and hiding the apps.
On android, no. Without rooting, the baked in apps are there to stay.
you need root you phone and then find some uninstall tool in MARKet.
how do i know for sure some of these apps are there to stay?
I meant to bold some of them I guess they didn't copy over.
Like all these useless rogers apps. pay for a worse navigation? I hope your joking!
crappy music player... no thanks.
If they were on the phone when you got it then they'll be on there after a factory reset, as that's exactly what happened to it prior to being put in the box.
Only rooting will allow you to remove them if they're system apps.
Alternatively you could try a different launcher. I only suggest this because many of the launchers on the Market will allow you to hide apps from your app drawer. Okay, they're still there, but you can just forget about them and carry on regardless.
ya you have to root to do any thing about it. If you do root make sure you make backups before you start uninstalling these programs just in case.
i have the thrilll 4g almost the same phone as you and i know what you mean what i did was get titanium backup pro has to be pro and froze all the apps i dont like so they dont eat battery or ram they still take up space on the card but o well
"I cannot ROOT my phone. #1 because I don't know how. #2 because I can risk voiding warranty."
i didn't know a thing about android a week ago now i'm rooted and doing all kinds of stuff to my phone if your worried about warrenty u can always unroot when you send it back.
check this page out has everything about rooting and clockworkmod for backups.
for rooting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412490
and CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365876
Root it if you can my friend, it will be the best choice you ever made
Android-UK said:
Root it if you can my friend, it will be the best choice you ever made
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if it breaks I can't afford to buy another phone for 3 years. I don't know **** about rooting.
Read read and then read some more but i been jailbreaking and hacking ps3/wii's for a long time so it wasent a big jump for me
How can one be sure if it is safe to remove a system app? Is there a list or something?
kulti75 said:
How can one be sure if it is safe to remove a system app? Is there a list or something?
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There are lists for some devices, but it varies from ROM to ROM and device to device. The best way to test is to use something like Titanium Backup and freeze an app. This is equivalent to uninstalling something, without actually uninstalling it. If anything goes wrong you simply unfreeze it.
I was in the same boat you were about a week ago. I started reading about rooting (even watched a few videos) and it seemed pretty straight forward. Since then, not only have I rooted it, I've also upgraded to the latest ICS v12 and did away with all the crap that was on my original Eclair OS. Happy camper now.
NeoCHoZen said:
I was in the same boat you were about a week ago. I started reading about rooting (even watched a few videos) and it seemed pretty straight forward. Since then, not only have I rooted it, I've also upgraded to the latest ICS v12 and did away with all the crap that was on my original Eclair OS. Happy camper now.
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^^^ exactly. It's very easy of you follow all instructions and don't cut and corners. You won't be disappointed when you realize your phone is way better rooted, and running a custom rom.
KayxGee1 said:
^^^ exactly. It's very easy of you follow all instructions and don't cut and corners. You won't be disappointed when you realize your phone is way better rooted, and running a custom rom.
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an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
umirin said:
an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
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I can understand how you might be leery of trying to root your phone for fear of "bricking" it. However, there's plenty of guides out there that can help you "unbrick" it as long as you do the research.
A simple google search came up with this tutorial that seems pretty straight forward.
androidauthority.com/how-to-root-the-lg-optimus-3d-p920-38038/
umirin said:
an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
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Check the optimus 3D forums here at xda and you'll find all the info you need.
I didn't flash a new rom as can't afford to buy new phone if I damage it but have rooted and its so easy you just run a program on pc called superoneclick connect your phone via usb and presd a button
Dave
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If you root it you can go to system/app folder and delete them,but u said u wouldn't so u cant
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Related
With the excitement taking place in the Official Huawei Ascend thread regarding the successful nandroid backup process. I felt it might be a good idea to start a thread regarding what apps/bloatware can be SAFELY removed from both the Cricket version and Metro PCS. Which should start us on the path of custom roms/themes, better performance etc. I think this phone is going to be way more capable than what we thought, at least I hope that turns out to be the case.
This way the "Official" thread can stay on topic with the progress of nandroid, clockwork, and Amon-ra procedures. I am willing to make edits to my original post to reflect the removals that can safely be done for each phone.
Tools Needed:
To root this phone I used Z4Root which can be found here:
Z4Root Link
Another method is Unrevoked but I did not try it, not sure why you would need to with this phone since Z4Root worked fine for me at least but here is link to get you there:
Unrevoked Link
A backup tool that is free in the market is Titanium Backup. I highly suggest using this as Wharmaster said it can "Freeze" the apps, essentially disabling the bloatware apps, but not removing them entirely so in the event something goes wrong you can just "defrost" them and put them back. As an original Droid user, I have been using Titanium Backup for a very long time, and this tool is highly valuable, as when you do a backup it not only backs up the app, but the data associated with it as well. Comes in handy when you restore Angry Birds and don't like the thought of loosing all your progress, not that Angry Birds plays well on the Ascend unfortunately, but as a Droid user I was very happy about having my data restored along with the application.
I know some of this may sound redundant to you seasoned veteran Android users, but some people coming here for the first time are entry level Android users and have picked up this economical Huawei Ascend phone. Knowing things like this is important until we get a final working nandroid backup process via Clockwork (Rom Manager) or Amon-Ra. So until we get a custom Rom that can hopefully be customized for the Huawei Ascend and a kernel that we can use to overclock it, anything we do to help speed up this little phone will make your experience that much better.
Wharmaster has also suggested a browser alternative in Miren, I have never used Miren myself but I am going to check it out and see if my son likes it.
Another browser I would suggest is Dophin Mini HD, it is free and has a smaller footprint than the full blown Dolphin HD browser, it seemed pretty snappy on the Ascend for the amount of time I tried it.
Cricket Section:
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Bowling
Uno
***Download another launcher to replace Canvas launcher, I put Launcherpro (can be found in Market, there is a free version) on my sons phone, once new launcher was put on I did the following "Freezes" with Titanium Backup rather than uninstall. Thanks to Wharmaster for the tip***
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype
Metro PCS Section:
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my extras
uno
virtual card
mobile banking
boingo wifi
moco space
free games
easy wifi
pocket express
Also bigjoe25ss posted the following, so if you dont use them I guess it is safe to remove them. In his case he uses the following programs so he kept them:
bigjoe25ss said:
you can also remove mail at metro and metro nav and metro back up but i use those so i left them
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A special Thank You to those who have worked long and hard thus far on the Ascend! As a OG Droid owner, I am hoping to give my son a better experience on his phone.
Bowling and Uno can safely be removed from a Cricket phone.
If you replace Canvas with another launcher than it's safe to remove
Photobucket
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype(although i like swype)
For Cricket Phones
I suggest using Titanium Backup to freeze the apps you don't need or want....very easy to simply defrost them if something goes haywire.
Launcherpro makes a great replacement for canvas, IMO. Very fast, and smooth.
Might want to check out the gingerbread keyboard that has been ported over to 2.1 ....you can find it on this forum.
And so far the fastest browser that I have found is Miren....might want to turn marquee mode off in the options though.
Sent from my M860 using XDA App
Wharmaster said:
I suggest using Titanium Backup to freeze the apps you don't need or want....very easy to simply defrost them if something goes haywire.
Launcherpro makes a great replacement for canvas, IMO. Very fast, and smooth.
Might want to check out the gingerbread keyboard that has been ported over to 2.1 ....you can find it on this forum.
And so far the fastest browser that I have found is Miren....might want to turn marquee mode off in the options though.
Sent from my M860 using XDA App
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Thanks for the tip Wharmaster, I actually did this last night before I read your post. I was too afraid of removing something that might break the Ascend and then I wouldn't have a way to put it back.
I really hope those guys working on this phone dont give up and we get something really cool in the weeks to come!
If anyone else has any suggestions please feel free to drop a line here. There are quite a few Huawei Ascend users, and at the price point this phone is at I can only think the number of users is going to grow.
I know my kid likes his phone.
Personally his phone frustrates me, and I can't wait for something custom to make it a bit faster.
If any Metro users could post their bloatware or metro specific stuff that would be much appreciated.
The more info we have the better. It might help the devs with streamlining the ROM.
i have safley removed these from my metro ascend
Documents to go
my extras
uno
virtual card
mobile banking
boingo wifi
moco space
free games
easy wifi
pocket express
you can also remove mail at metro and metro nav and metro back up but i use those so i left them
Actually unlike I first stated it is not safe to remove poynt for Cricket, if you do so you'll loose your data connection... Sorry about that!
I removed it and i don't have any data problems i know of.
S.I.™ ©®77
selfinflicted1 said:
I removed it and i don't have any data problems i know of.
S.I.™ ©®77
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Yeah i deleted also and I've been playing Xbox live for hours, from Barnacle.
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I froze poynt on my sons Huawei and he has had no issues so far.
I wonder what this means?
Umm....I removed poynt weeks ago with no issues.
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joenathane said:
If you replace Canvas with another launcher than it's safe to remove
Photobucket
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype(although i like swype)
For Cricket Phones
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Can you please tell me how to remove the canvas?
jadden said:
Can you please tell me how to remove the canvas?
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Make nandroid back up then:
1.First make sure you have another launcher program
2.Make sure canvas is NOT the default
3.Use titanium back up to freeze or uninstall the canvas app.
4. Enjoy
S.I.™ ©®77
papawiskas said:
I froze poynt on my sons Huawei and he has had no issues so far.
I wonder what this means?
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Strange, I froze poynt and my data connection went away, reset the phone still gone, unfronze poynt and it came back immediately...
But what else have you uninstalled or froze? You might want to restore them all and freeze just poynt...then test. Then unfreeze poynt and repeat that sequence with each app.
I would be interested to know those results.
As I have had no data issues.
I removed Poynt with Root Explorer and have had no issues since. It's been about 2 weeks ago.
Are you sure it wasnt gtalk? I know that one causes problems if you remove iy
AAARG! Deleted canvas now what?
Ok so i didnt pay for the freezing and defrost option. So i deleted canvas so I could use a better browser. NOW MY PHONE WONT GET PAST THE CRICKET SCREEN TO FIX. Any suggestions anyone? I did back it up btw before i did anything....
rvp1025 said:
Ok so i didnt pay for the freezing and defrost option. So i deleted canvas so I could use a better browser. NOW MY PHONE WONT GET PAST THE CRICKET SCREEN TO FIX. Any suggestions anyone? I did back it up btw before i did anything....
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Did you install Launcher Pro before deleting Canvas?
There is a system APP that I'm freezing that is putting my phone into a bootloop and requiring me to do a restore; I did it 3 times already. I thought it was wificalling, and I still think you can't freeze that, but it's something else. Please tell me which of the following (it has to be one or many of these) it could be? Or better yet, tell me which ones I shouldn't freeze:
Android Live Wallpapers
Backup
Bluetooth services
Bluetooth share
Gallery
Live Wallpaper Picker
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
Market
Market updater
Music
Music Visualization wallpapers
My Account
Settings
Settings Storage
Smartshare
SSH Tunnel
SpareParts
Titanium backup
Super Manager
Talk
Video Player
Voice Dialer
VPN Services
EB 1.05 Froyo, Faux's Kernel
Thanks!
All the live wp are gone on mine
G2X
Holy crap! You have all that frozen? I have to fiigure that anything that looks at the settings or is used during normal operation will cause some issues...
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Why have a smart phone if your going to freeze everything I understand freezing the bloat ware but freezing all the system services don't make sense I doubt it will make your phone any faster
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Dood there are at least ten threads on this subject.
Putting that aside, you are freezing system stuff. Why would you freeze the settings? Why Bluetooth? Why gallery?
Buy a dumb phone. Seriously you are freezing half the the phone. Just get a dumb phone.
ITS ALL WONKY!!!
Backup
Bluetooth services
Bluetooth share
Gallery
Live Wallpaper Picker
Market
Market updater
Music
Settings
Settings Storage
SSH Tunnel
Super Manager
Talk
Voice Dialer
VPN Services
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Don't freeze those, for a start! As others have said, built in services isn't bloatware!
Why market? That just defeats the entire reason for a smartphone lol.
ITS ALL WONKY!!!
You should have put the whole phone into the freezer, it would probably work better.
ok...
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
Android Live Wallpapers (get off my damn phone)
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)
Bluetooth stuff (almost never use, but will when I get the headset)
Gallery (always running in the background and you can view your pics right on the camera while this is frozen, so ... ).
Live Wallpaper Picker (get the f off my phone)
Magic Smoke Wallpapers (get off my phone)
Market (alright, you have a point...)
Market updater (doesn't this just update the apps?, the general consensus is that problems come with updates on APPs, although clearly, one can argue au contraire...)
Music (alright, touché)
Music Visualization wallpapers (No... I don´t need this..)
My Account, Settings, Settings Storage, spare parts (i don't go in there anymore after I got the phone all geared up)
Smartshare- what even is this?
SSH Tunnel- half of you probable don't know what this is...
SpareParts- ummmm... don't really ever go in this i forget what it is?
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
Super Manager (I only use for when I look up root **** which is almost never anymore since I got everything where I want it. )
Talk (I don't want this, I use Skype...)
Video Player (fine, touché)
Voice Dialer (it doesn't ever match the numbers correctly, so clearly I can freeze)
VPN Services (What is this??)
I don´t base my life around this crap, I just want to make my phone as good as it can be with the longest battery life and the stock kernel and rom obviously can´t do it...
peace:: V
el buho said:
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)...
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
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I'm far from a pro at Android, but the above, and the fact that you're trying to rationalize to a forum why freezing certain processes are putting you in a bootloop is hilarious. As if the people here can appeal to the G2X for you.
Talk sweetly to try and convince the device itself. Or just look at the list of apps that are safe to freeze.
el buho said:
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
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Maybe, just maybe some of that stuff NEEDS to be running in the background...
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el buho said:
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
Android Live Wallpapers (get off my damn phone)
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)
Bluetooth stuff (almost never use, but will when I get the headset)
Gallery (always running in the background and you can view your pics right on the camera while this is frozen, so ... ).
Live Wallpaper Picker (get the f off my phone)
Magic Smoke Wallpapers (get off my phone)
Market (alright, you have a point...)
Market updater (doesn't this just update the apps?, the general consensus is that problems come with updates on APPs, although clearly, one can argue au contraire...)
Music (alright, touché)
Music Visualization wallpapers (No... I don´t need this..)
My Account, Settings, Settings Storage, spare parts (i don't go in there anymore after I got the phone all geared up)
Smartshare- what even is this?
SSH Tunnel- half of you probable don't know what this is...
SpareParts- ummmm... don't really ever go in this i forget what it is?
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
Super Manager (I only use for when I look up root **** which is almost never anymore since I got everything where I want it. )
Talk (I don't want this, I use Skype...)
Video Player (fine, touché)
Voice Dialer (it doesn't ever match the numbers correctly, so clearly I can freeze)
VPN Services (What is this??)
I don´t base my life around this crap, I just want to make my phone as good as it can be with the longest battery life and the stock kernel and rom obviously can´t do it...
peace:: V
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+overclock it, and u will get there best performance don't forget to show benchmark results
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
Zadeis said:
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
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You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
StingerDog said:
You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
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Ah thank you. Now in terms of doing that isn't there a list somewhere that lists all the "safe" apps to freeze? I have found lists pertaining to other tablets but not specifically the Tab 7 plus yet. Unless I'm just blind and it's been right in front of me (which is very likely) xD
I have not seen such a list but I haven't looked for one either.
Ah OK. I think I had found one for the Galaxy Tab (which I am assuming is the 10.1) and another one (which I forget what it was) so I figured I would ask.
Thank you all for your input though!
what bloatware are in your gtab?
Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
Zadeis said:
Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
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If for any reason you boot into recovery there is a "hidden" partition that will re-install all that crap. If you install garyd9's CWM recovery it will not do this.
I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use. Its stripped down to a bare tab. I HATE unwanted un needed programs.
antiochasylum said:
I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use.
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50? Can you list these apps?
I cleaned (froze with TB to be exact) and it's not even close to 10, but I am overly cautious so not to break the Tab. For example, I froze Polaris Office, AP Plus widget, etc.
Yes I will. Ill compare it tomorrow and post what I removed about to go to bed for now.
Sent from my ICS'd themed Galaxy Tab 7+
Is it OK to freeze these apps with Titanium Backup:
1). Apps
- Media Hub
- My files
- Samsung Apps
- Social Hub
- Talkback
- SNS related apps:
- Disclaimer
- Facebook
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
2). Built-in widgets, such as:
- AccuWeather.com (widget)
- AP Mobile (widget)
- Buddies now (widget)
- Digital Clock (widget)
- Dual Clock (widget)
- Yahoo! Finance
3). Built-in wallpapers (live or static)
- Aurora 2 (wallpaper
- Blue sea (wallpaper)
You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
gregy74 said:
You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
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that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
str8addicted said:
that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
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I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
jblade1000 said:
I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
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I think this is an issue with SuperUser itself.
The problem is, I cannot set the Automatic Response to "Prompt". If I do use that, then ANY apps that requires root access will be automatically DENIED. The only solution is to set the Automatic Response to "Allow", which I don't want to.
I tested this with LBE Privacy apps. With "Prompt" set in SuperUser, after every reboot, 2 out of 3 times LBE failed to start. I had to open SuperUser and start LBE again and it works. When I set to "Allow", no more problem.
Was wondering if anyone has made a comprehensive list of bloatware that is safe to uninstall for the I727R yet? I've used a couple of roms, and they're great, just not as stable as the stock.
Would love to remove *all* the bloat from my device, just don't know which ones are 100% safe to trash yet....
Also, from what I've read, I can just change the kernel if I want to oc, right? What's a good kernel for that? Da_og?
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Two that come to mind off the top of my head
Da_G oc kernal
or
faux123 oc kernal
I've had no problems with either one, but only have limited experience with them.
And those are pretty stable on the Rogers offering? Sorry for the 20 questions, but I'm a novice at best with Android... and this device in particular doesn't seem to have a lot of material that lends itself to inspire absolute confidence in someone of my level of understanding, lol
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the k9 said:
And those are pretty stable on the Rogers offering? Sorry for the 20 questions, but I'm a novice at best with Android... and this device in particular doesn't seem to have a lot of material that lends itself to inspire absolute confidence in someone of my level of understanding, lol
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I have not tried these kernals with stock rogers gingerbread, but from what I have read around these forums it sounds fairly stable.
if it were me I would just try it; and see if you can get it nice and stable thats the fun of flashing around.
the k9 said:
Was wondering if anyone has made a comprehensive list of bloatware that is safe to uninstall for the I727R yet? I've used a couple of roms, and they're great, just not as stable as the stock.
Would love to remove *all* the bloat from my device, just don't know which ones are 100% safe to trash yet....
Also, from what I've read, I can just change the kernel if I want to oc, right? What's a good kernel for that? Da_og?
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If you think it might be bload but you aren't sure just go into titanium backup and freeze it. It is the exact same but if you run into problems later just unfreeze it and its right back on your phone. If it turns out you really dont need it then just unistall it
I'm running the ATT bln mod kernel on ATT hardware but a rogers rom and I have no issues.
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So no one has made a bloat list for the I727R?
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Hope no one minds, but I'm gonna keep this bumped till a list is made, our I compile a good list to share... Might be hard though... The urge to flash is getting pretty severe
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After flashing the TPC v3 rom, here are my list of frozen apps. I've also got a lot of third party apps to replace stock launcher/dialer/keyboard/etc.... so I've frozen the stock ver of those.
I'll repeat the advise stated earlier in the thread, use Titanium Backup to freeze the apps instead of removing them completely until you're sure you don't need those.
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com.samsung.app.playreadyui
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
Days
Digital Clock
DRM content launcher
DRM Protected Content Storage
DSMForwarding
DSMLawmo
Dual clock
Email
EncryptApp
Error
Helv Neue
Home Screen tips
IM
Kies Air
Let's try, panning!
Market Feedback Agent
Microbes
Mini paper
Mobile Print
My files
Nfc Service
NFC Test
Ocean weather
Pico TTS
Preconfig
Samsung Apps
Samsung keypad
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Self Test Mode
Setup Wizard
SIM Toolkit
SNS
SNS Disclaimer
SNSAccountFb
SNSAccountLi
SNSAccountTw
SnsImageCache
Social Hub
Tags
TTS Service
TwLauncher (Touchwiz.. don't freeze unless you have another launcher installed)
TwWallpaperChooser
Videos
Windy Weather
WlanTest
wssyncmlnps
tom0927 said:
After flashing the TPC v3 rom, here are my list of frozen apps. I've also got a lot of third party apps to replace stock launcher/dialer/keyboard/etc.... so I've frozen the stock ver of those.
I'll repeat the advise stated earlier in the thread, use Titanium Backup to freeze the apps instead of removing them completely until you're sure you don't need those.
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com.samsung.app.playreadyui
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
Days
Digital Clock
DRM content launcher
DRM Protected Content Storage
DSMForwarding
DSMLawmo
Dual clock
Email
EncryptApp
Error
Helv Neue
Home Screen tips
IM
Kies Air
Let's try, panning!
Market Feedback Agent
Microbes
Mini paper
Mobile Print
My files
Nfc Service
NFC Test
Ocean weather
Pico TTS
Preconfig
Samsung Apps
Samsung keypad
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Self Test Mode
Setup Wizard
SIM Toolkit
SNS
SNS Disclaimer
SNSAccountFb
SNSAccountLi
SNSAccountTw
SnsImageCache
Social Hub
Tags
TTS Service
TwLauncher (Touchwiz.. don't freeze unless you have another launcher installed)
TwWallpaperChooser
Videos
Windy Weather
WlanTest
wssyncmlnps
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Nice list
One suggestion: TwLauncher, I'm pretty sure if you were to do a factory reset phone would crash after the inital setup(language blah blah).
Second thing, I've frozen secphone.apk for some time with no ill effects(not sure what it does). Could be screenshot service?
big thanks tom! Now if I can only figure out why this bleeding device keeps frying SD cards... 3rd one onside of a month! WTF?!?
xda1zero said:
Nice list
One suggestion: TwLauncher, I'm pretty sure if you were to do a factory reset phone would crash after the inital setup(language blah blah).
Second thing, I've frozen secphone.apk for some time with no ill effects(not sure what it does). Could be screenshot service?
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Thanks! I've just frozen secphone as well.
Groovy, thanks xda, tom. I was holding off flahing any new roms... but with the card issues, as well as reading the rave reviews of TPC's rom, I'm going to give it a run tonight.
Also, I'll name my first partition after you~
Great
Great list - just rooted, purchased TB, and froze almost all of the above mentioned (except TwLauncher and related).
Seemed to free up a lot of available ram on my SGS2 LTE.
Next step would be trying out 'roms', which I have next to none knowledge of.
Or just wait for the official OTA update coming up in a month or two...
honestly rogers doesnt put as much bloatware on the phone as att does to their version. I removed more Samsung bloatware then rogers bloatware when I was running stock. I'm now running CocaColaClassic and it works flawlessly on my Rogers GS2LTE i727r plus when he updates his rom he includes a update zip. I've tried every single rom and thats the best, cyanogenmod 7 is the second best rom available. Though this is my opinion. Also I use LauncherPro instead of twlauncher (find it much more efficient and faster)
Whats better on Coke than TPCs? Just curious
Titanium Backup
JHK1984 said:
... and froze almost all of the above mentioned (except TwLauncher and related).
Seemed to free up a lot of available ram on my SGS2 LTE.
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Freezing apps with TB doesn't free up any memory:
here is a relevant excerpt from TB Technical Guidline
17. Does “freezing” apps free space from phone memory ?
No, it doesn’t. The “frozen” app remains on the phone with its data, it’s just that the app gets completely disabled until you “defrost” it.
I've had ICS installed on Desire S for the past week. I'm a bit disappointed at some features being missing. I was using standard GB with Sense 3.0 - nothing special.
Well here's my list of troubles - maybe someone can help me with them, or at least they'll be out there for the benefit of anyone taking the dive.
Browser no longer opens default app: Whenever I've installed a special purpose application (Wikipedia, IMDb, Google Play) and I search on the browser, I no longer get the option to open the page in its dedicated app - instead the page loads and I end up using the browser. Most of you might remember the browser on GB used to ask the standard which-app-would-you-like-to-use question, and whether you'd like it defaulted or just once, but it no longer does that.
The mail widget doesn't show the same as the app - I've got Mail configured to sync with Exchange on 6 folders. The widget has stopped showing the different folders - the app still shows them when I select "All Messages" and this was the default view on GB. I've looked for settings near and far, but can't find any to control this.
HTC Sense no longer has widgets to download: I miss the hourglass timer (countdown) and the battery widget.
Youtube widget now occupies 3x2 instead of the sleaker 4x1. Is it YouTube or Sense, I don't know - but I'm not completely satisfied by this change.
To be fair to ICS tho, I believe it's quicker and lighter on the battery - I haven't felt the common complaints of slower. Also, a browser issue that some people had complained about is non-existent in my case - Good for me!
dont know about the mail question ,, but for browser , clear data and clear defualts in setting>apps>browser,,,
htc-sense : yes it is a little wierd but unfortunately , u cant download more htc widgets on sense 3.6 ,
youtube : since i moved to ICS youtube widget is shown like this , on any ics rom,,, so its youtube, not sense
As far as I remember you can set default apps for actions somwhere in the settings. But the truth is that ICS from HTC is really annoying and battery life was worse for me than on GB.
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Browser no longer opens default app: Whenever I've installed a special purpose application (Wikipedia, IMDb, Google Play) and I search on the browser, I no longer get the option to open the page in its dedicated app - instead the page loads and I end up using the browser. Most of you might remember the browser on GB used to ask the standard which-app-would-you-like-to-use question, and whether you'd like it defaulted or just once, but it no longer does that.
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Are you rooted ? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865756&highlight=build+prop
Before i had problems with crashing links and apps weren't opening correctly.
Now for example i click youtube video in facebook app, it opens browser loads that address and asks what app to use. Checked youtube and don't ask in future.
Now works correct ;]
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but for browser , clear data and clear defualts in setting>apps>browser,,,
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Unfortunately this doesn't work.. but thanks for the idea
VnnAmed said:
As far as I remember you can set default apps for actions somwhere in the settings. But the truth is that ICS from HTC is really annoying and battery life was worse for me than on GB.
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The one you're talking about is in Settings > Apps association.. but that doesn't include the apps I'm installing.
Apparently the response below from remusator is the right way to go... At least it sounds right to me. I'll try it and report back.
To Root? Or not to Root? That is the question.
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Are you rooted ? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865756&highlight=build+prop
Before i had problems with crashing links and apps weren't opening correctly.
Now for example i click youtube video in facebook app, it opens browser loads that address and asks what app to use. Checked youtube and don't ask in future.
Now works correct ;]
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Its sounds very likely that this is the right solution to follow... However, I'm not rooted. Would you recommend for or against (well, I think since you're rooted you probably will recommend it) but what are potential losses from rooting. I was against early in my warranty and OTA was still an option, but I'm not sure I have a case any more. Shall I just go ahead and root?
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Its sounds very likely that this is the right solution to follow... However, I'm not rooted. Would you recommend for or against (well, I think since you're rooted you probably will recommend it) but what are potential losses from rooting. I was against early in my warranty and OTA was still an option, but I'm not sure I have a case any more. Shall I just go ahead and root?
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root it now !! no risk , it is very, very easy ,, u can get rid of the stock buggy ics , and can have latest android 4.1 jellybean ! ,Sense 4 ! ur phone will be very fast and lighting , can play any HD game bceause u can overclock your cpu ! ,,, but you may lost ur warranty :silly:
You will loose your warranty, however there are methods how to put the phone in original (afaik).
Anyway, most of Desire S phones are probably out of warranty already.
Rooting doesn't exactly mean installing custom roms, btw...
But it comes hand in hand, and it means freedom. You can make whatever you like with your phone.
Rooting on gingerbread was pretty easy and straightforward.
You root only once and install custom recovery. Then you can flash every rom you like (Desire S Development section), even prerooted, so no need to root again ;]
I've started my investigation on rooting, but I'm wondering about S-on/off are those needed also. Would those be enough to modify the build.prop file? What about upgrading bootloader.
Apparently I have too many questions so if you can redirect me to a guide about all those... The 101 of everything root/bootloader etc. Is appreciate it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Everything u need
islamomt said:
I've started my investigation on rooting, but I'm wondering about S-on/off are those needed also. Would those be enough to modify the build.prop file? What about upgrading bootloader.
Apparently I have too many questions so if you can redirect me to a guide about all those... The 101 of everything root/bootloader etc. Is appreciate it.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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You can also find a complete guide thread here. Read as much as you can before you're confident about rooting. If you follow instructions carefully and read the tips to avoid bricking your device then there is very little risk to rooting.