[Q] DANGER: Freezing bloatware? - T-Mobile LG G2x

There is a system APP that I'm freezing that is putting my phone into a bootloop and requiring me to do a restore; I did it 3 times already. I thought it was wificalling, and I still think you can't freeze that, but it's something else. Please tell me which of the following (it has to be one or many of these) it could be? Or better yet, tell me which ones I shouldn't freeze:
Android Live Wallpapers
Backup
Bluetooth services
Bluetooth share
Gallery
Live Wallpaper Picker
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
Market
Market updater
Music
Music Visualization wallpapers
My Account
Settings
Settings Storage
Smartshare
SSH Tunnel
SpareParts
Titanium backup
Super Manager
Talk
Video Player
Voice Dialer
VPN Services
EB 1.05 Froyo, Faux's Kernel
Thanks!

All the live wp are gone on mine
G2X

Holy crap! You have all that frozen? I have to fiigure that anything that looks at the settings or is used during normal operation will cause some issues...
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Why have a smart phone if your going to freeze everything I understand freezing the bloat ware but freezing all the system services don't make sense I doubt it will make your phone any faster
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Dood there are at least ten threads on this subject.
Putting that aside, you are freezing system stuff. Why would you freeze the settings? Why Bluetooth? Why gallery?
Buy a dumb phone. Seriously you are freezing half the the phone. Just get a dumb phone.
ITS ALL WONKY!!!

Backup
Bluetooth services
Bluetooth share
Gallery
Live Wallpaper Picker
Market
Market updater
Music
Settings
Settings Storage
SSH Tunnel
Super Manager
Talk
Voice Dialer
VPN Services
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Don't freeze those, for a start! As others have said, built in services isn't bloatware!

Why market? That just defeats the entire reason for a smartphone lol.
ITS ALL WONKY!!!

You should have put the whole phone into the freezer, it would probably work better.

ok...
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
Android Live Wallpapers (get off my damn phone)
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)
Bluetooth stuff (almost never use, but will when I get the headset)
Gallery (always running in the background and you can view your pics right on the camera while this is frozen, so ... ).
Live Wallpaper Picker (get the f off my phone)
Magic Smoke Wallpapers (get off my phone)
Market (alright, you have a point...)
Market updater (doesn't this just update the apps?, the general consensus is that problems come with updates on APPs, although clearly, one can argue au contraire...)
Music (alright, touché)
Music Visualization wallpapers (No... I don´t need this..)
My Account, Settings, Settings Storage, spare parts (i don't go in there anymore after I got the phone all geared up)
Smartshare- what even is this?
SSH Tunnel- half of you probable don't know what this is...
SpareParts- ummmm... don't really ever go in this i forget what it is?
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
Super Manager (I only use for when I look up root **** which is almost never anymore since I got everything where I want it. )
Talk (I don't want this, I use Skype...)
Video Player (fine, touché)
Voice Dialer (it doesn't ever match the numbers correctly, so clearly I can freeze)
VPN Services (What is this??)
I don´t base my life around this crap, I just want to make my phone as good as it can be with the longest battery life and the stock kernel and rom obviously can´t do it...
peace:: V

el buho said:
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)...
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
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I'm far from a pro at Android, but the above, and the fact that you're trying to rationalize to a forum why freezing certain processes are putting you in a bootloop is hilarious. As if the people here can appeal to the G2X for you.
Talk sweetly to try and convince the device itself. Or just look at the list of apps that are safe to freeze.

el buho said:
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
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Maybe, just maybe some of that stuff NEEDS to be running in the background...
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el buho said:
Wow, calm the F down u all, it's not like I don't use them. I unfreeze them if I need them. \
Android Live Wallpapers (get off my damn phone)
Backup (I don't need this, i use titanium backup, and it's always running in the bg)
Bluetooth stuff (almost never use, but will when I get the headset)
Gallery (always running in the background and you can view your pics right on the camera while this is frozen, so ... ).
Live Wallpaper Picker (get the f off my phone)
Magic Smoke Wallpapers (get off my phone)
Market (alright, you have a point...)
Market updater (doesn't this just update the apps?, the general consensus is that problems come with updates on APPs, although clearly, one can argue au contraire...)
Music (alright, touché)
Music Visualization wallpapers (No... I don´t need this..)
My Account, Settings, Settings Storage, spare parts (i don't go in there anymore after I got the phone all geared up)
Smartshare- what even is this?
SSH Tunnel- half of you probable don't know what this is...
SpareParts- ummmm... don't really ever go in this i forget what it is?
Titanium backup- it's backed up! why give it the chance to run in the background..?
Super Manager (I only use for when I look up root **** which is almost never anymore since I got everything where I want it. )
Talk (I don't want this, I use Skype...)
Video Player (fine, touché)
Voice Dialer (it doesn't ever match the numbers correctly, so clearly I can freeze)
VPN Services (What is this??)
I don´t base my life around this crap, I just want to make my phone as good as it can be with the longest battery life and the stock kernel and rom obviously can´t do it...
peace:: V
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+overclock it, and u will get there best performance don't forget to show benchmark results

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[Q] Uninstalling Cyanogen native apps? and other Q's

Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
Use titanium backup it uninstalls stock apps. But be careful which ones u uninstall they will mess ur phone up and cause foreclosures
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beholder121 said:
Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
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1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
2. Yes, gb is available in cyanogenmod flavor right here: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc It had some minor lag issues with the home screen, but camera and gps is working for me. Not sure if compcache and jit is, though.
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user7618 said:
1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
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I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
how about fotakill? don't know what it does, so I didn't remove it.
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FOTAKILL i believe is the cyanogen updater, do a google search
I removed it with no issues.
-- Sent from my Sprint SuperHero --
Here's link from Cyanogen wiki that gives a list of apps and some details about them - like what they are, can they be removed and such. Also, it documents ways to remove apps.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
ranger61878 said:
I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
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No, I think you may be right. For whatever reason, I was thinking google voice, which isn't even part of the gapps or cm apps. Leave talk installed.
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If you delete Google Voice Search, you will need something else (Vlingo, etc.) in order to have a mic on your keyboard I believe.
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Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
beholder121 said:
Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
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Press the menu key.
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[ROGERS] bloatware list?

Was wondering if anyone has made a comprehensive list of bloatware that is safe to uninstall for the I727R yet? I've used a couple of roms, and they're great, just not as stable as the stock.
Would love to remove *all* the bloat from my device, just don't know which ones are 100% safe to trash yet....
Also, from what I've read, I can just change the kernel if I want to oc, right? What's a good kernel for that? Da_og?
Sent from my rooted SGS2 I727R using stock, until something really stable comes along using xda-app
Two that come to mind off the top of my head
Da_G oc kernal
or
faux123 oc kernal
I've had no problems with either one, but only have limited experience with them.
And those are pretty stable on the Rogers offering? Sorry for the 20 questions, but I'm a novice at best with Android... and this device in particular doesn't seem to have a lot of material that lends itself to inspire absolute confidence in someone of my level of understanding, lol
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the k9 said:
And those are pretty stable on the Rogers offering? Sorry for the 20 questions, but I'm a novice at best with Android... and this device in particular doesn't seem to have a lot of material that lends itself to inspire absolute confidence in someone of my level of understanding, lol
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I have not tried these kernals with stock rogers gingerbread, but from what I have read around these forums it sounds fairly stable.
if it were me I would just try it; and see if you can get it nice and stable thats the fun of flashing around.
the k9 said:
Was wondering if anyone has made a comprehensive list of bloatware that is safe to uninstall for the I727R yet? I've used a couple of roms, and they're great, just not as stable as the stock.
Would love to remove *all* the bloat from my device, just don't know which ones are 100% safe to trash yet....
Also, from what I've read, I can just change the kernel if I want to oc, right? What's a good kernel for that? Da_og?
Sent from my rooted SGS2 I727R using stock, until something really stable comes along using xda-app
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If you think it might be bload but you aren't sure just go into titanium backup and freeze it. It is the exact same but if you run into problems later just unfreeze it and its right back on your phone. If it turns out you really dont need it then just unistall it
I'm running the ATT bln mod kernel on ATT hardware but a rogers rom and I have no issues.
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So no one has made a bloat list for the I727R?
Sent from my rooted SGS2 I727R using stock, until something really stable comes along using xda-app
Hope no one minds, but I'm gonna keep this bumped till a list is made, our I compile a good list to share... Might be hard though... The urge to flash is getting pretty severe
Sent from my rooted SGS2 I727R using stock, until something really stable comes along using xda-app
After flashing the TPC v3 rom, here are my list of frozen apps. I've also got a lot of third party apps to replace stock launcher/dialer/keyboard/etc.... so I've frozen the stock ver of those.
I'll repeat the advise stated earlier in the thread, use Titanium Backup to freeze the apps instead of removing them completely until you're sure you don't need those.
AllShare
Buddies Now
com.samsung.app.playreadyui
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
Days
Digital Clock
DRM content launcher
DRM Protected Content Storage
DSMForwarding
DSMLawmo
Dual clock
Email
EncryptApp
Error
Helv Neue
Home Screen tips
IM
Kies Air
Let's try, panning!
Market Feedback Agent
Microbes
Mini paper
Mobile Print
My files
Nfc Service
NFC Test
Ocean weather
Pico TTS
Preconfig
Samsung Apps
Samsung keypad
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Self Test Mode
Setup Wizard
SIM Toolkit
SNS
SNS Disclaimer
SNSAccountFb
SNSAccountLi
SNSAccountTw
SnsImageCache
Social Hub
Tags
TTS Service
TwLauncher (Touchwiz.. don't freeze unless you have another launcher installed)
TwWallpaperChooser
Videos
Windy Weather
WlanTest
wssyncmlnps
tom0927 said:
After flashing the TPC v3 rom, here are my list of frozen apps. I've also got a lot of third party apps to replace stock launcher/dialer/keyboard/etc.... so I've frozen the stock ver of those.
I'll repeat the advise stated earlier in the thread, use Titanium Backup to freeze the apps instead of removing them completely until you're sure you don't need those.
AllShare
Buddies Now
com.samsung.app.playreadyui
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
Days
Digital Clock
DRM content launcher
DRM Protected Content Storage
DSMForwarding
DSMLawmo
Dual clock
Email
EncryptApp
Error
Helv Neue
Home Screen tips
IM
Kies Air
Let's try, panning!
Market Feedback Agent
Microbes
Mini paper
Mobile Print
My files
Nfc Service
NFC Test
Ocean weather
Pico TTS
Preconfig
Samsung Apps
Samsung keypad
Samsung TTS
SamsungAppsUNA2
Self Test Mode
Setup Wizard
SIM Toolkit
SNS
SNS Disclaimer
SNSAccountFb
SNSAccountLi
SNSAccountTw
SnsImageCache
Social Hub
Tags
TTS Service
TwLauncher (Touchwiz.. don't freeze unless you have another launcher installed)
TwWallpaperChooser
Videos
Windy Weather
WlanTest
wssyncmlnps
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Nice list
One suggestion: TwLauncher, I'm pretty sure if you were to do a factory reset phone would crash after the inital setup(language blah blah).
Second thing, I've frozen secphone.apk for some time with no ill effects(not sure what it does). Could be screenshot service?
big thanks tom! Now if I can only figure out why this bleeding device keeps frying SD cards... 3rd one onside of a month! WTF?!?
xda1zero said:
Nice list
One suggestion: TwLauncher, I'm pretty sure if you were to do a factory reset phone would crash after the inital setup(language blah blah).
Second thing, I've frozen secphone.apk for some time with no ill effects(not sure what it does). Could be screenshot service?
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Thanks! I've just frozen secphone as well.
Groovy, thanks xda, tom. I was holding off flahing any new roms... but with the card issues, as well as reading the rave reviews of TPC's rom, I'm going to give it a run tonight.
Also, I'll name my first partition after you~
Great
Great list - just rooted, purchased TB, and froze almost all of the above mentioned (except TwLauncher and related).
Seemed to free up a lot of available ram on my SGS2 LTE.
Next step would be trying out 'roms', which I have next to none knowledge of.
Or just wait for the official OTA update coming up in a month or two...
honestly rogers doesnt put as much bloatware on the phone as att does to their version. I removed more Samsung bloatware then rogers bloatware when I was running stock. I'm now running CocaColaClassic and it works flawlessly on my Rogers GS2LTE i727r plus when he updates his rom he includes a update zip. I've tried every single rom and thats the best, cyanogenmod 7 is the second best rom available. Though this is my opinion. Also I use LauncherPro instead of twlauncher (find it much more efficient and faster)
Whats better on Coke than TPCs? Just curious
Titanium Backup
JHK1984 said:
... and froze almost all of the above mentioned (except TwLauncher and related).
Seemed to free up a lot of available ram on my SGS2 LTE.
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Freezing apps with TB doesn't free up any memory:
here is a relevant excerpt from TB Technical Guidline
17. Does “freezing” apps free space from phone memory ?
No, it doesn’t. The “frozen” app remains on the phone with its data, it’s just that the app gets completely disabled until you “defrost” it.

USELESS apps that came with my phone

LG Optimus 3D
my phone came with 48 applications. plus 10 3d applications.
there's a lot of crap I don't use and I want them gone.
I need to factory reset anyway just to install god damn skype again. but I want to know if will remove these apps.
I won't root AT ALL because I know nothing of it and can't take the chance of losing my warranty.
3d apps:
3d camera
3d gallery
3d games
3d games & apps
3d guide
3d space
asphalt 6
gullivers travels
lets golf 2
nova
apps:
alarm clock - i use
angry birds - i use
application manager - i use
browser - i use
calculator - i use
calendar - i use
call log - i use
camera - i use
car home - never used it but useful I suppose.
contacts - i use
email - i use
facebook - i use
finance - useless for me
gallery - i use
gmail - what is the point of gmail if I have email app already?
google search - i use
latitude - built with google maps I think.
LG world - no idea what this is.
mobile backup - no idea what this is. must be a subscriber? call 611? wtf?
maps - i use
android market - i use
messaging - i use
music - i use
rogers my account - i use
navigation - i use
yahoo news - i use
on demand (Rogers) - no idea what this is.
phone - i use lol.
places - i use
polaris office - used it once to open a pdf.
rich note - never used it.
rogers ringbacks - useless crap
rogers ringtones - useless crap. just links to a webpage like above.
rogers navigation - useless crap. google is better. rogers you have to pay for.
settings - i use
rogers shop - just links to a stupid webpage
smartshare - no idea what this is.
google talk - dont use
twitter - dont use
rogers urMusic - Horrible layout with ads. worse than the standard android music player.
video player - never used it but useful I guess if you copy movies.
nuance voice control - useful I suppose
voice recorder - useful I suppose
voice search - never used.
weather - useless.
what's new - never used
youtube - i use
flash player settings - never touched.
downloads:
google translate
soundhound
google earth
scanner radio
wifi finder
gstrings
mobile metronome
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WILL factory reset wipe these?
I cannot ROOT my phone. #1 because I don't know how. #2 because I can risk voiding warranty.
Factory wipe will only reset it back to how it was when you got the device... with all those apps. I know in ICS it lets you all but remove apps like hides them and kills them but your device doesn't have ICS.
I would suggest getting a third party launcher like Launcher pro or ADW EX and hiding the apps.
On android, no. Without rooting, the baked in apps are there to stay.
you need root you phone and then find some uninstall tool in MARKet.
how do i know for sure some of these apps are there to stay?
I meant to bold some of them I guess they didn't copy over.
Like all these useless rogers apps. pay for a worse navigation? I hope your joking!
crappy music player... no thanks.
If they were on the phone when you got it then they'll be on there after a factory reset, as that's exactly what happened to it prior to being put in the box.
Only rooting will allow you to remove them if they're system apps.
Alternatively you could try a different launcher. I only suggest this because many of the launchers on the Market will allow you to hide apps from your app drawer. Okay, they're still there, but you can just forget about them and carry on regardless.
ya you have to root to do any thing about it. If you do root make sure you make backups before you start uninstalling these programs just in case.
i have the thrilll 4g almost the same phone as you and i know what you mean what i did was get titanium backup pro has to be pro and froze all the apps i dont like so they dont eat battery or ram they still take up space on the card but o well
"I cannot ROOT my phone. #1 because I don't know how. #2 because I can risk voiding warranty."
i didn't know a thing about android a week ago now i'm rooted and doing all kinds of stuff to my phone if your worried about warrenty u can always unroot when you send it back.
check this page out has everything about rooting and clockworkmod for backups.
for rooting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412490
and CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365876
Root it if you can my friend, it will be the best choice you ever made
Android-UK said:
Root it if you can my friend, it will be the best choice you ever made
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if it breaks I can't afford to buy another phone for 3 years. I don't know **** about rooting.
Read read and then read some more but i been jailbreaking and hacking ps3/wii's for a long time so it wasent a big jump for me
How can one be sure if it is safe to remove a system app? Is there a list or something?
kulti75 said:
How can one be sure if it is safe to remove a system app? Is there a list or something?
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There are lists for some devices, but it varies from ROM to ROM and device to device. The best way to test is to use something like Titanium Backup and freeze an app. This is equivalent to uninstalling something, without actually uninstalling it. If anything goes wrong you simply unfreeze it.
I was in the same boat you were about a week ago. I started reading about rooting (even watched a few videos) and it seemed pretty straight forward. Since then, not only have I rooted it, I've also upgraded to the latest ICS v12 and did away with all the crap that was on my original Eclair OS. Happy camper now.
NeoCHoZen said:
I was in the same boat you were about a week ago. I started reading about rooting (even watched a few videos) and it seemed pretty straight forward. Since then, not only have I rooted it, I've also upgraded to the latest ICS v12 and did away with all the crap that was on my original Eclair OS. Happy camper now.
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^^^ exactly. It's very easy of you follow all instructions and don't cut and corners. You won't be disappointed when you realize your phone is way better rooted, and running a custom rom.
KayxGee1 said:
^^^ exactly. It's very easy of you follow all instructions and don't cut and corners. You won't be disappointed when you realize your phone is way better rooted, and running a custom rom.
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an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
umirin said:
an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
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I can understand how you might be leery of trying to root your phone for fear of "bricking" it. However, there's plenty of guides out there that can help you "unbrick" it as long as you do the research.
A simple google search came up with this tutorial that seems pretty straight forward.
androidauthority.com/how-to-root-the-lg-optimus-3d-p920-38038/
umirin said:
an what is a custom ROM?
I would take chances if I had money. If this phones bricks it's game over.
where is a legit guide and download for my phone? - lg optimus 3d.
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Check the optimus 3D forums here at xda and you'll find all the info you need.
I didn't flash a new rom as can't afford to buy new phone if I damage it but have rooted and its so easy you just run a program on pc called superoneclick connect your phone via usb and presd a button
Dave
Sent from my LG P920 using Tapatalk
If you root it you can go to system/app folder and delete them,but u said u wouldn't so u cant
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Root when Marshmallow is out?

So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?
Is your bootloader already unlocked?
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Nope not yet.. i dont want to void my warranty yet
Then u may as well wait
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Never know someone might find a bug in marshmallow to allow locked bootloader root. Anything is possible
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calvinerico said:
So i was wondering, should i root my Xperia Z5 dual now with Unlocked BL method on Lollipop or should i wait until Marshmallow is coming out to Xperia devices and root with Marshmallow on board? suggestion anyone?
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Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait
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Ive unlocked my device's bootloaders, rooted them all.. And i can honestly say, i dont regret it at all. Ive debloated the phone completely, ive even removed core system apps and services that i dont need or use.. I removed everything related to nfc (the NFC chip is actually used as a tracking device and stuff). Im very pedantic when it comes to blocking anything with hidden permissions and blocking apps from having open unrestricted access to my files, location, info etc etc.. My firmware is. Very clean, to give you an idea of how much ram and storage space i freed up.. Before debloating my phone and cleaning out unnecessary system apps from my device.. The the system was using up anywhere from 2.2-2.7GB RAM... Thats extremely high considering thats more than 75% of your total ram..
After debloating my device..
System only uses 1.4-1.7GB RAM..
And to put the icing on the cake. The battery now lasts aaaaages even when playing games and doing a lot of heavy use., the phone barely even gets warm as well. Which is an added bonus.. When my phone is in sleep / doze state (screen off) my device has lastest up to almost 10hrs with only 1% battery left ... Loll
But if youre worried about voiding warranty, then just gotta be patient and wait for an exploited firmware with rootable system.
I suspect it wont be too long of a wait
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Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?
ChristianLetti said:
Hey,
Would you mind telling us what apps/core apps did you remove?
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Certainly
Removed The Following from device.. on a (Rooted Xperia Z5, Unlocked Bootloader)
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Browser (small app) --- (this app is so useless, it just doesn't belong)
Explore (Sony) ---- (Not interested)
Facebook ---- (I dont use facebook)
Linked in ---- (Dont use / need it)
Playstation App ---- (Dont need / use it)
Account Manager (Sony) ---- (Useless, Not needed)
Creative Effect --- (I Dont bother with camera effects and photo editing, i just take photos as they are)
Drive --- (Google, Again- I Dont need / use it.. cloud storage on google.. no thanks!)
File Commander ---(Don't like it) (I use ESFileExplorer instead)
Google Lyrics Extension --- (Like seriously, Wtf is the point of this useless app) its legit, useless. haha..)
Google Play Books ---(Dont need/use it.. pointless app, waste of space/ram)
Google Play Games --- (I dont sign in with my information to play games) (Problematic App, Just delete it) even after deleting it i play every game fine, without any problems.. (Safe to get rid of it)
Google Play Movies --- (AGAIN, unwanted bloatware, Who The. **** would even consider using this, pay to watch movies, HAHA yeah right!)
Google Play Music --- (Yet AGAIN, unwanted useless bloatware, when i can use Youtube/TubeMate instead)
Google Play Newsstand --- (GET OFF MY DEVICE, Extremely Useless bloatware AGAIN.) I hate anything google relation UNLESS it's needed (Play store, Play services, like thats fair enough)
Google+ ------(Hell no, GONE.. I dont need it and dont want it, To me it is considered BLOATWARE) most google related APPS also ask for unrestricted / Excluse access to your entire device.. Like wtf.. NO thanks!
Hangout ------(bye bye bloatware)
Movie Creator ------( Dont need / use it ) simple video recording is plenty for my use..
News & Weather ------( Don't Want it on my device, When i can simple check everywhere else with consuming ram / space) drains battery aswell.
Photos ------(Dont need it, WHy would i use it when I have an App called ALBUM that works good enough) (And I'm not in to the whole photo sharing/social crap that goes along with it.. (Bloatware in my eyes)
Playstation Video ------(Dont use / Need it)
*****ALSO, I removed the default theme Colors that i did not like/want.. I kept Dark & Red.. I deleted the rest though "Orange, Purple, Blue, Green, White" each one was 8MB .. (Dont need things on my device that i wont be using, Right?? ****
Socialife ------( Blah blah blah, Gone!!!)
Sound Photo ------(ahhh yeaaah--nahhhhh) useless to me.. Considered bloatware.
TalkBack ------( Gone )
Video------- (Unwanted Bloatware)
Weather Widget -------(No Thanks, As small as this app Appears to be) It is a god damn battery killer.. Thats A fact!!!! Location>
And that should pretty much be it for now, unless i have missed anything..
Hope that was enough info for you mate ..
Then,
A few others i removed, are a few pointless key modules as well (mainly camera related)
(Lips, sunshine etc) these modules are obvious to spot.. Their icons are of little smiley faces each module with a different color smiley face.. Get rid of all the ones you dont need / want..
Also remember to always restart your device when disabling / force stopping / deleting apps/services / modules / core services etc so that any remaining residual files are removed completely and the new (device spring clean) takes effect.
So restart once you have removed everything you dont want or need..
FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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millicent said:
FYI, removing some of the bloatware resulted in reproducible 'random' restarts on LP.
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It never did that to me on LP..
TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)
Hey man,
Don't worry about your warranty ! It's not a problem voiding it as soon as you know how to repair a bootloop or those sortr of things. It will (of course) won't void your technical warranty and, trust me, it worth it (see @TheTecXpert , he done a lot of great things )
Of course this is your choice to wait. It's a good solution too, but rooting is very cool on Android. Think twice
Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)
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Hi cab13,
Z5 is already running mm, flashed it and now rooted and bl unlocked so not concerned about warranty. I have found it near impossible to brick these things lol, just not sure how to remove all the apps that TheTecXpert did, Wether it was done with programming or something as simple as root Explorer(if so what directory)
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TheTecXpert or any of the others, forgive me for my ignorance or stupidity lol, but rather new to playing with my phone, I have always rooted my Sony's mainly for custom roms to get extra options etc, but now looking to expand my horizons.
I'm not a complete newly to programming (have done my share 13 years ago) lol but also have a fairly I.T knowledgeable background.
Are you able to explain or advise or point to another thread that explains how you removed all the excess system apps etc (yes I have looked but usually at work with limited Time)
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Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.
theprince1991 said:
Hey, I usually just use ADB to get rid of apps I don't want/need. The ADB shell commands are very similar to *nix commands.
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@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
Anyway, Once you launch the APP (of your choice) , you will be in a menu with ALL APPS that you can remove.. they will be in categories and alphabetical order.. the App will specif things like "could remove", "should keep", "Key Module" etc etc...
From there you can just uninstall all the crap that is not need and anything else you dont want.. In an earlier post I have a long list of APPS and modules that I removed from my phone which gave me an OVERALL stable, clean, fast and Battery Life improvement on the device.. I'm happy with it.. And Warranty is never an Issue for me since i've always rooted ALL of my Sony Xperia devices and have never had any issues with them..
But everyone is different and has their own preferences on how they do things ..
TheTecXpert said:
@smiley.raver
The simplest way that I went about removing all the excessive apps/bloatware was by using a program from the google play store called "System App Safe Remover" or "System App Uninstaller", anything that gives you direct access to ROOT SYSTEM APPS.. You can use ADB, for but for those not completely technically savvy in the "Command Shell" I would highly recommend not using ADB..
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Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:
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Dude nice find! Thanks WAY more convenient than ADB :good::good::good:
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No worries bro. Any time [emoji6]
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Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?
thedude90 said:
Hy!
So,i have a z5 dual e6683 marshmallow
What imei should i use to unlock bloader?
After that,what guide do i follow to root it ?
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You need to supply your device's imei which is located in Settings>About phone.. Pretty straight forward bro.
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While awaiting Android N for our Pure (XT1575)...

I decided to try out simplifying my phone and reduce issues that I've come across when using various custom ROMs, modified stock ROMs, etc... and used the Restore-To-Stock tool found in these forums. I then updated the phone via Settings, About, System Updates... then once that was done (Several times...) I was fully updated and ready to go. I flashed the latest TWRP & then installed the latest SuperSU for MM via TWRP... went into the file system and removed the APPs I did not want or need on my phone, wiped the caches and rebooted... I did this a few days ago and am insanely impressed by it. I forgot what stable and issue-free felt like... There's no fancy custom edits, no oddball quirks randomly from whatever was modified from various ROMs and after I installed xPosed, a few basic modules, setup Nova Launcher and all my APPs (Did a full fresh no restore of anything run through of it all)... I am the happiest I've ever been with my Moto X Pure (XT1575).
Once N pops in, I'll go through the whole process again, of course... but I think I might start sticking out simplified setups from here on out. I wanted to get the next Google "Nexus" phones released this year, but after seeing the Pixels and the prices... no thank you, I'm staying with my Pure for a while. I'm VERY happy with it... Dual front facing speakers are pretty much a necessity now for me. Internal Storage and Removable Batteries (prior to my Pure) are no longer my requirement. I've adjusted to pretty much using Google Drive and Google Play Music for all of my Files & Music with T-Mobile's no-data-cost of Google Play Music Streaming, I download my favorites (All I ever need would fit on a 32GB phone easily)... and Google Photos auto-backup has prevented me needing tons of storage options anymore... Battery you say though? No... I've YET to have a phone I wasn't able to charge on-the-go or even have a battery go bad.
Rambling here, this post was probably more for me than anyone who might read it, lol... I wanted the Moto Z so bad... but if I can't get an unlocked one that has the shatterproof display to use on T-Mobile... I don't see myself getting one at all. I want my next phone to have a fancy AMOLED hopefully shatterproof display with dual-front facing or at least a mod for sound / speakers like the Z and perhaps smaller top / bottom bezels. Not sure if I care about a fingerprint sensor yet or not. Anyway, have a great day everyone!!!
Have you compared debloated stock to tru pure x?
I've been thinking about doing something similar for the last few days. I've been running the latest TruPure since it came out several months ago. It might be the longest I've ever had an Android device without doing a clean flash of something, and things are degenerating.
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
CJ-Wylde said:
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
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You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
HaggisIV said:
You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
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What I've always done is go into TWRP and remove them myself. Going full fresh no restore means no real need for Titanium. Return-To-Stock first, then OTA your way up to current... THEN TWRP and SuperSU... then boot in, make sure everything is working and jot down on a piece of paper or Google Keep from your computer a list of the APPs you don't want.
Then power off, get into TWRP and mount /System, go into Advanced, File Manager and within /system/APPs and /system/PrivAPPs (Or something like that, memory just blanked) and find what was on your personal list... enter the folder for it, hit button bottom right, choose delete, done, go back and do the others... then wipe Cache / Dalvik and power off / boot up for the absolute freshest experience you can have with a stock ROM.
The trick is to NOT restore ANYTHING... install all your preferred Google APPs first, do the whole Google Phone install if you removed the stock Phone app, etc... (I remove it and the messenger, and a bunch of other stuff like the gallery, mail, etc... because I solely use Google services now).
I removed my case cover and have been carrying the phone around bare.
It's like I bought a whole new phone.
Have you guys tried a quality AOSP based ROM like Dirty Unicorn or BrokenOS?
Super stability. Nothing at all like running a CM ROM.
Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
nobreak1970 said:
Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
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cant get it to recognize my sim
unitz0mbie said:
cant get it to recognize my sim
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10/11 build will I bet. :highfive:
What apps/services did you remove? I'm running stock rooted myself and honestly I only see a couple of things I'd get rid of, nothing that would have any real impact on battery/storage though. This phone's stock ROM really is close to AOSP.
same too what apps did you remove tnx.. im not rooted .. tried uninstalling apps and guess what it got temp bootloop.. did hard reset using stock recovery and got fix again started tru welcome menu.... may i know guys what apps not to unistall tnx
Did a side by side comparison of apps in TruePure and stock. I counted 39 apps deleted from TruePure.
Android Live Wallpaper, Basic Daydreams
Bubbles, Calculator
Cloud Print, Com.Android.wallpaper.holospiral
Com.Motorola.audiomonitor.helper
Com.Motorola.bug2go
Com.Motorola.motgeofencesvc
Com.qualcomm.atfwd
Config Updater, CQATest
Demo mode, Device help
DiagMdlog Settings , Entitlement
Google Indic Keyboard , Japanese Input
Google Launcher Config , Korean Input
Pinyin Input , Play Movies
Play Music , Hangouts
Input Devices , Messaging
Moto Care , Moto Care int
Motorola Boot Services , Motorola Checkin
Motorola Notifications , Motorola One Time Init
Motorola Update Services
Native Drop Box Agent , Phase Beam
Rescue Add-on: Motorola
Sheets , Slides , Talk Back
I only deleted the extra Keyboards, Play Movies, Music, Hangouts, Sheets, Slides and Talk Back to be sure I had enough space for Xposed.

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