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[Q] ClockworkMod Recovery, ROM Manager, and Nandroid confusion

So I'm trying to update my rooted 3.0.1 euro 3G xoom to the 3.2 Hammerhead ROM, and here's something that is really confusing me:
I've installed ROM Manager 4.3.3.0 from the Market. Then I downloaded and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery 3.2.0.0 R4c via this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979
So far so good: I can boot to recovery and it looks that everything is working nicely... with the exception of the following:
1) Even though I have CWM installed, ROM Manager won't recognize it. It keeps asking to install it. I haven't done that though because I don't want to overwrite the one I flashed... how can I get ROM Manager to recognize CWM? Or, if I install a different CWM version through the ROM Manager interface, will that overwrite the existing install, or even break something?
2) I can't find Nandroid in the recovery menu of 3.2.0.0 R4c. It says that it should be there in the Wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_backup_or_recover_via_Nandroid), but no sir. I only have the options Backup and Advanced Backup in recovery; it doesn't say Nandroid anywhere.
The thing is - I made a normal backup and it created a folder with .img files in it, along with a nandroid.md5 file. So is this a full Nandroid backup or not? And should it not be a zip file? Meaning - will I be able to revert to this backup through ROM Manager or CWM later if it's not a zip?
3) Lastly, I want to install the Tiamat 2.1 Hammerhead ROM. solarnz writes in the instructions in step 6 to "install the rom". So do I do that from recovery? Or from ROM Manager? Which brings me back to my first problem, that ROM Manager won't recognize CWM and won't let me install a ROM without it.
Also - can I install the Hammerhead ROM from my rooted 3.0.1 device at all, or should I install 3.1 first?
I know these are a lot of questions all at once, but after hours and hours of searching and reading (and learning a lot!), I still can't figure this part out.
Many thanks to anyone who can help me make sense of this!

bobblack said:
So I'm trying to update my rooted 3.0.1 euro 3G xoom to the 3.2 Hammerhead ROM, and here's something that is really confusing me:
I've installed ROM Manager 4.3.3.0 from the Market. Then I downloaded and flashed ClockworkMod Recovery 3.2.0.0 R4c via this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979
So far so good: I can boot to recovery and it looks that everything is working nicely... with the exception of the following:
1) Even though I have CWM installed, ROM Manager won't recognize it. It keeps asking to install it. I haven't done that though because I don't want to overwrite the one I flashed... how can I get ROM Manager to recognize CWM? Or, if I install a different CWM version through the ROM Manager interface, will that overwrite the existing install, or even break something?
2) I can't find Nandroid in the recovery menu of 3.2.0.0 R4c. It says that it should be there in the Wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_backup_or_recover_via_Nandroid), but no sir. I only have the options Backup and Advanced Backup in recovery; it doesn't say Nandroid anywhere.
The thing is - I made a normal backup and it created a folder with .img files in it, along with a nandroid.md5 file. So is this a full Nandroid backup or not? And should it not be a zip file? Meaning - will I be able to revert to this backup through ROM Manager or CWM later if it's not a zip?
3) Lastly, I want to install the Tiamat 2.1 Hammerhead ROM. solarnz writes in the instructions in step 6 to "install the rom". So do I do that from recovery? Or from ROM Manager? Which brings me back to my first problem, that ROM Manager won't recognize CWM and won't let me install a ROM without it.
Also - can I install the Hammerhead ROM from my rooted 3.0.1 device at all, or should I install 3.1 first?
I know these are a lot of questions all at once, but after hours and hours of searching and reading (and learning a lot!), I still can't figure this part out.
Many thanks to anyone who can help me make sense of this!
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Forget about Rom Manager. You have the correct recovery installed and you have made a "nandroid" backup when you used the backup option in CWM recovery 3.2.0.0 R4c. The Rom you want to flash needs to be on your MicroSD card and that needs to be in your Xoom when you boot into recovery. It is from the CWM recovery menu that you will choose to flash the zip file that will install the Rom. You will need to be able to boot into recovery and you can do it by pressing volume up and power to get to dual core screen, then after 3 seconds, press volume down then volume up and you should be in recovery. Or you could download Quick Boot from the market and use its boot into recovery option (that's what I do).
About the version you need to be on to flash Hammerhead...what does it say? I think you may need to be on 3.1 but just read the OP on the Hammerhead thread...it will tell you the requirements.
Good luck!

Thanks a lot for explaining that okantomi, that's very helpful and reassuring!
The only thing I'm left with now is to figure out the version part... the rom OP doesn't say anything about a required version. Here's the thread btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203635
I made my way through the first 18 or so pages of the 434 total pages in that thread, but still couldn't find any info on that. I'll keep looking - not giving up

Quick update... I decided to just go for it. I flashed the 3.2 ROM onto 3.0.1 - it worked perfectly without any hiccups whatsoever. I'm now running Androud 3.2 with 3G and it works beautifully. Can you see that I'm smiling?

bobblack said:
Quick update... I decided to just go for it. I flashed the 3.2 ROM onto 3.0.1 - it worked perfectly without any hiccups whatsoever. I'm now running Androud 3.2 with 3G and it works beautifully. Can you see that I'm smiling?
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Me too! ;^ )
Enjoy your shiny new Rom!

[Q] ROM Manager bricking phones...?

Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!

Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.

Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?

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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me

ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.

jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!

so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?

[Q] *ClockWork Mod Recovery Issue.

Hi guys I really hope someone can help me with this. I was running CM7 Nightly rom and decided to try and flash eaglesblood 2.3.5 and it flashed ok but the problem is that when I tried restoring my back-up on it I get an clockworkmod recovery error. Any Ideas?

what does the error say?
most likely it was a bad backup and slim chance of restoration
did u do a full wipe before restoring?

Yes I did a full wipe before flashing and also before I tried to restore my black-up thru rom manager.I have flashed plenty of roms and this phone am not a total noob when it comes to this phone. I have never encountered this problem before. Before i tried going into recovery thru rom manager to restore back up thru CWm 4.0 etc, and it says I need CWM 5.0. I updated the rom manager to 5.0 etc and when I reboot and go into recovery (not thru rom Manager) and it says that it is the 4.0 etc version.Also is the 5.0 etc version blue? it jumps from 4.0 to 5.0 back to 4.0. This is a lil weird I went into recovery and did a restore from there and when I try in RM it comes up with error message Cannot restore cuz my CWm is 4.0 etc. thats when it jumps back from 5.0 to 4.0. I know this is confusing and by the way all the etcs you see are because I don't know the exact version. Any helps and thnx to whomever does.

deder21 said:
Yes I did a full wipe before flashing and also before I tried to restore my black-up thru rom manager.I have flashed plenty of roms and this phone am not a total noob when it comes to this phone. I have never encountered this problem before. Before i tried going into recovery thru rom manager to restore back up thru CWm 4.0 etc, and it says I need CWM 5.0. I updated the rom manager to 5.0 etc and when I reboot and go into recovery (not thru rom Manager) and it says that it is the 4.0 etc version.Also is the 5.0 etc version blue? it jumps from 4.0 to 5.0 back to 4.0. This is a lil weird I went into recovery and did a restore from there and when I try in RM it comes up with error message Cannot restore cuz my CWm is 4.0 etc. thats when it jumps back from 5.0 to 4.0. I know this is confusing and by the way all the etcs you see are because I don't know the exact version. Any helps and thnx to whomever does.
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You need to update thru NVFlash. Here is the link and everything should be fine after that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054492

Thanks guys u rock. I got the new CWM on there for nvflash. Now I am moving my saved back up zipped file from downloads to CWM on sd card after I zip it, so well see how this goes right now. THanks again

With the G2X don't use rom manager for your backup/restore. Boot directly into the clockworkmod that you installed with nvflash and do the backup/restore from there.

[Q] I messed it all up in nexus s!

First of all,
I updated to 4.0.3
then i would like to root my phone..
I used a guide found on the nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/ and then i installed rom manager free from market and i tried flashing cwm recovery inside rom manager.
But rom manager was fc and i decided to google it to find an other way to install cwm recovery.
Then i found this guide nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-force-your-nexus-s-into-clockworkmod-recovery/ and i followed this exactly, hoping that it could be easy to flash the new 4.0.3 rom again.
When i try to open bootloader mode and select recovery a sparking android is showing up an then only the lights from the touch keys are glowing.!
When i press either (Vol- and Power) or Power Clockwork Mod recovery shows up and when i try to install zip from sd it shows status 7 installation aborted. I searched forums that proposed to wipe all data and dalwik data.
I did all these and also status7 shows up every time i try to flash a rom.
I ask for your help!!!

updated your cwm recovery to 5.x.x.x. and dont expect help or no one will help, ask for help instead.

you are right i wrote by mistake.

simms22 said:
updated your cwm recovery to 5.x.x.x. and dont expect help or no one will help, ask for help instead.
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I did that and again status 7

konkostis said:
I did that and again status 7
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what rom are you trying to flssh?

cm9 or stock ICS

konkostis said:
First of all,
I updated to 4.0.3
then i would like to root my phone..
I used a guide found on the nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/ and then i installed rom manager free from market and i tried flashing cwm recovery inside rom manager.
But rom manager was fc and i decided to google it to find an other way to install cwm recovery.
Then i found this guide nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-force-your-nexus-s-into-clockworkmod-recovery/ and i followed this exactly, hoping that it could be easy to flash the new 4.0.3 rom again.
When i try to open bootloader mode and select recovery a sparking android is showing up an then only the lights from the touch keys are glowing.!
When i press either (Vol- and Power) or Power Clockwork Mod recovery shows up and when i try to install zip from sd it shows status 7 installation aborted. I searched forums that proposed to wipe all data and dalwik data.
I did all these and also status7 shows up every time i try to flash a rom.
I ask for your help!!!
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I managed to revive my beloved nexus!!!!
All that i've done is to also force my nexus to boot from the latest cwm found at its website and also downloaded stock ics rom found at rom manager site and all ok!!!

konkostis said:
First of all,
I updated to 4.0.3
then i would like to root my phone..
I used a guide found on the nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/ and then i installed rom manager free from market and i tried flashing cwm recovery inside rom manager.
But rom manager was fc and i decided to google it to find an other way to install cwm recovery.
Then i found this guide nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-force-your-nexus-s-into-clockworkmod-recovery/ and i followed this exactly, hoping that it could be easy to flash the new 4.0.3 rom again.
When i try to open bootloader mode and select recovery a sparking android is showing up an then only the lights from the touch keys are glowing.!
When i press either (Vol- and Power) or Power Clockwork Mod recovery shows up and when i try to install zip from sd it shows status 7 installation aborted. I searched forums that proposed to wipe all data and dalwik data.
I did all these and also status7 shows up every time i try to flash a rom.
I ask for your help!!!
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I suggest you to download the stock gingerbread for your model from Rom Manager and install it as update.zip. That will unroot your phone. So root it again and try flashing new roms (cm9 or ICS). You should flash kernel after flashing the rom.
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[Q] Rom flash fail----Help

I have a lg g2x that I previously rooted and installed clockwork mod on. Today I tried to flash the weapon rom and it failed. I followed the directions posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207125
Instructions on flashing
1. Download zip and place on sdcard
2. Reboot into clockwork recovery
3. Perform a factory reset
4. Navigate to mounts and storage and format /system
5. Choose Install zip from sdcard <-----This is where it failed. I got the message installation aborted. Now the phone hangs on the lg start up screen (with the blue bar)
the file on the sd card weapon g2x_30_r1-1022.zip (didn't unzip or edit name)
I have clockwork mod 3.1.0.1 on my phone and can hold the volume down & power to boot to clockwork.
EDIT: what format should the card be formatted ? I pulled it out the phone to add the file so I doubt that's it J/W
I ASSUME I can flash other roms....but I want this one and I got a feeling since I did everything right with this rom others would fail also.
any help is greatly appreciated

you need to update the Clock work mod first of all, and second you messed up by attempting boot a phone that has no rom on it... just redownload the rom and update the CWM to 5.0.2.0

the phone hangs at lg start up screen and doesn't start......how do I update clockwork mod?....so by saying I had no rom on the phone that file (weapon g2x_30_r1-1022.zip) is an update to a rom ?
Can I download another rom to the SD card from a computer and boot from clockwork mod?

I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?

Mjc189 said:
I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?
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if you already backed up you don't need to do it again if it's the same rom. but yea update your clock mod recovery i'm on 5.8.1.3 it's touch clock mod words good. and weapon g2x really you might as well stay with stock rom. try cm7& cm9 nice battery lots of tweaks
here is the 5.8.1.3 clock mod rec
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054492

Mjc189 said:
I fixed my phone. I downloaded the stock gingerbread LG-P999-V21e file and my phone is up and running with root.
Before I tried to flash my phone I had a stock froyo when I did my nandroid backup with clockwork mod 3.1.0.1
Before I try to flash more roms I will download the newest clockwork mod. Do I have to perform the nandroid backup again? Or is the current backup sufficient ?
EDIT: I just noticed the camera folder (NOT saved to SD) and some ringtones from soundboards are still on my phone...but how? a cache?
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delete the last backup and nandroid again. The last backup you did was with another version of the CWM so it won't restore with the new version of CWM that you just updated.