Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!
Now if you don't know what DSP manager is, well it is an application used to enhance music experience!
It has 5 options.
-Dynamic Range Compression
(Compresses loud sounds and amplifies quieter sounds for a "balance")
-Bass Boost
(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))
-Equalizer
(Changes the sounds or levels of a song more on this later)
-Loudness Compensation
(Makes the track or sound louder leading to possible distortion)
-Virtual Room 3D effect
(Mimics a "3D" effect (think toy microphone))
Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"
Well not exactly.
I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.
These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.
These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!
Now for the settings.
For the first DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION: You want to turn this completely off. And I'll explain why.
This makes the sounds leveled but amplifies or makes the track louder which leads to distortion at high levels. And one REALLY IMPORTANT REASON. Unless you have a 80's or 90's or lower song that is NOT mastered (updated) then this option is bad. All modern songs are already really compressed and most people agree.
Bass Boost:
Leave it at Slight or Medium.
some headphones have little bass and some have a lot.
Equalizer
You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.
Loudness compensation:
It is like Dynamic range compression but doesn't change sounds or levels them it just makes it louder...I use Voodoo Sound so its not needed but if you have an HTC or Motorola phone then set it to weak or strong to prevent distortion.
Headphone Virtual Room effect.
This option tries to make the song feel surround soundy, but it just doesn't work for most. It takes some sounds and covers them as all it does it just produce an echo effect so off.
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Thanx Allan, its really useful information
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Searching for the best equalizer setting I finally found one.. Hope this will help to bring out the best in your earphones!
plz upload export file what we can easily import in our poweramp
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Will try out soon..
Each system and user are different; no one size fits all!
That curve would sound horrible with the Buds+ if your hearing is still good and even if it wasn't.
Read: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/eq-explainer/?amp
When you change a slider it alters not just those frequencies between it and the adjacent sliders but others down the line. Try to start at zero and pull down offending ranges, then jack up the volumn as needed. Boost others as needed but try to keep the slider curve smooth like a sign wave as uneven increases can really screw up the sound.
On my Denon flagship reciever/sound system no equalizer was needed; I dial in the subwoofer cutoff and then level as needed. That was all other than changing the music mode as needed, sometimes going to straight 2 speaker stereo.
The 10+/ Buds+ are not near as well balanced as the former sound system and need heavy equalization to bring them up to par.
One EQ profile will not fit all music; on Poweramp I have over a dozen. It allows you set a profile per song, album, playlist.
It takes a lot of time and trouble to set up a EQ profile(s) for a large music collection. My collection goes back to the 30's swing to modern R&R, each has different requirements to maximize its sound.
I was searching all over the play store for a way to boost the music sound and nothing was working in fact it would make the sound worse and lower than it already was and this is another thing we can't change without root permissions but luckily I found PowerAmp and this app literally made the music almost 50% louder so if you like your music louder I suggest you give it a shot and it can easily be found on the play store! Make sure you learn to use the equalizer and pre amp features because it makes it extremely loud but if you go into the settings and turn on the gain levels you can make it so loud that it's going to hurt your ears so just a warning lol.. Google Play Store PowerAmp!
My issue is not so much the speaker but the ear piece for calls. It just seems very low. I have issues hearing everyone unless it is cranked.... and it is still not loud enough.
Does PowerAmp affect the ear speaker too?
Update: I am guessing not since this is a "music player"
player911 said:
My issue is not so much the speaker but the ear piece for calls. It just seems very low. I have issues hearing everyone unless it is cranked.... and it is still not loud enough.
Does PowerAmp affect the ear speaker too?
Update: I am guessing not since this is a "music player"
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No this is only when you're playing music or videos through the PowerAmp player. Have you tried adjusting the hearing settings in settings then accessibility and Hearing? See if that may help or you can go through Settings then Sounds and Vibration and tap Sound Quality And effects and go through the entire process.
MrMike2182 said:
I was searching all over the play store for a way to boost the music sound and nothing was working in fact it would make the sound worse and lower than it already was and this is another thing we can't change without root permissions but luckily I found PowerAmp and this app literally made the music almost 50% louder so if you like your music louder I suggest you give it a shot and it can easily be found on the play store! Make sure you learn to use the equalizer and pre amp features because it makes it extremely loud but if you go into the settings and turn on the gain levels you can make it so loud that it's going to hurt your ears so just a warning lol.. Google Play
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@mmw68666
What are you trying to say? Lol..
It should be noted that the lower the bitrate of the audio file being played, the lower you will be able to increase the pre-amp level before getting massive distortion. I bought PowerAmp long ago and have used it almost exclusively, and the pre-amp I generally set pretty high, but most of my audio is FLAC with some 320WMA mixed in and the rare 192 and lower for rare stuff I had to rip from Youtube or other less than ideal sources. With FLAC files you can boost the pre-amp quite high and lot lose any quality or introduce any distortion. Using my Sony MDR-XB500 headphones and FLAC files, and the PowerAmp pre-amp, the audio levels easily get to painful/damaging-to-your-ears levels without distortion, but "standard" bitrate music (192kbps-ish) starts to distort pretty low on the pre-amp.
Hi,
I have a rooted Xperia Z5 and I have 32 ohm earbuds that have a very clear bass reproduction, and they sound great with the phone's built-in impedance matching feature (called "Automatic optimisation" in the settings). However, that feature also "enhances" the low end to the point where the earbuds physically break. I don't use any EQ or bass boost, because it's already more than enough.
Now I've seen a lot of sound mods that purportedly boost bass and whatnot, and wanting to do the exact opposite of that I decided to try looking for a tutorial on what all the different settings do and how to change them, which I couldn't find. I tried looking at my own mixer_paths.xml to see if I could make sense of it by myself but although mostly friendly named the settings are pretty cryptic and I'm not sure if I could for instance, if I found something that looks like a high pass filter in the telephony mixer channel, simply copy it to the headphone channel and have it sound right or even work at all.
To clarify, what I want to do is just cut off everything below, say, 30Hz, and then see how high I can go before things start to sound bad, or maybe do a more gentle roll-off if that's possible. I've tried the graphic equaliser but the 5 bars available are way too crude to do something like this. Doing a -1 or -2 on the bass boost slider certainly helps but it affects too much (the range is too high).
So any help on whether or not this is even possible and if so where I should look are appreciated. Thanks!
When playing songs at full volume with outdoor mode on at full volumes the vocals die down when the bass hits, it sounds like a cheap Bluetooth speaker. Anyone else facing the same issue?
Please try it and let me know if the vocals get dim when the base hits.
Try the Song Glass House by MGK or any of the drake songs.
Thank you
Your sure it's not a sound system issue?
If the device performs well with quality headphones it's likely not the cause.
You should be coming out in the 24bit digital realm if possible otherwise it will degrade the sound quality if the source is high fidelity.
Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.
Nasty_z said:
Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.
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Alright thank you, but that's the thing I mean the speakers are good but you cannot use them to their full potential, the front camera is absolutely terrible for video calls, Snapchat is just a blurred face, I mean what's the point of this phone when it cannot get the basics right it overheats but 40C is acceptable. But thank you for confirming, I thought there is some hardware issue with my phone.
I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.
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I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.
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Use Poweramp for complete equalizer control.
It's limiter works flawlessly.
If the phone 24 bit digital output and you use it there should be no issues on the phone side.
I have mild to mod hearing loss. I have hearing aids but there are cases where wearing them is not possible or desirable, a key one being when using NC headphones. So to compensate I have searched high & low for an Equalizer app or any other audio amplification category type app that can boost on-board/streaming volume by frequency. Basically it "should" be as simple as an Equalizer app that has the abiity to boost up to say 30-40dB (or more) but the highest I've ever seen is 18dB. Most apps only run 6-10 band to max 10 or 15dB. Even Neutralizer that appears to sort of fit this need can only boost to 10!
There seems to be an abundance of apps that target hearing impaired but they are either hearing aid paired apps & just control the aides or they try to substitute for aides & amplify ambient sound - ie amplify microphone input. One of these Petralex goes to 30dB, which makes me think it is technically possible.
So bottom line is I have to wonder if it is technically just not possible; Android doesn't allow that level/power of amplification or is that there is just not enough perceived need for something along these lines. I could see it as an add for the headphone makes but again - eg: Sony MX headphones companion app has an Eq but only boost to 10dB - meant for taste not hearing loss.
I have a DEV background but have worked in sys admin for 10+ years now - IF it is possible I may entertain the idea of giving it a shot myself even if only for my own use.