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HTC Bravo

I couldn't find a topic on this, searching HTC Bravo, "HTC Bravo" and just Bravo came with nothing.
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Personally, I prefer Sense UI to stock android, even though the hero is still on 1.5 I don't see how in any way Stock Android 2.0/1 offers any better or nicer features than Sense UI.
The Bravo should be announced next week and come out in March. I can't wait for it to be honest and will be upgrading from my G1 ASAP.

The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595648

xmoo said:
It will get a new name
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Are you sure ?

Dancorp said:
Are you sure ?
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100%, Just keep following my Twitter

I heard it was going to T-Mobile UK but what about T-Mobile USA.
I like the Nexus One but that stupid plan you need with it to get it at $180 on T-Mobile is what I hate.
Hopefully the Bravo will be around the same price and maybe even cheaper
I also take the Sense UI over stock android. I mean look at the Hero's ancient Android 1.5 Sense UI.
*7 screens
*Very pretty and helpful widgets with cool animations
*Multi touch in browser, gallery, and mail before Google pushed it to the Nexus One (excluding the mail)
*FLASH in browser.
*LOADS of eye candy. I mean everything I go into has eye candy. Even the darn menus.
If HTC SENSE can run smooth on my old MT3G with only 192 mb of RAM and a 528 mhz processor just think how an Android 2.2 HTC SENSE will run on a 512 mb RAM and a 1 ghz processor.
Plus the Bravo will come with all the goodies of Android 2.1
*Newer Market
*Google Maps with Multi touch and navigation
* The other goodies that I can't remember.
HTC will probably make their own version of the 3D gallery and maybe even make their own version of live wallpapers.
Plus all those Nexus One users will want a port of Bravo.
Which is harder to port: Stock Android or a Custom UI Android?

Custom UI is harder to port than Stock Android.
Am hoping this will come out on o2-uk ASAP. As for the leaked brochure saying "april" things can change since then and all sources seem to point at March.

It sure does look like the Nexus, but with a few other features.

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brummiesteven said:
I couldn't find a topic on this, searching HTC Bravo, "HTC Bravo" and just Bravo came with nothing.
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Personally, I prefer Sense UI to stock android, even though the hero is still on 1.5 I don't see how in any way Stock Android 2.0/1 offers any better or nicer features than Sense UI.
The Bravo should be announced next week and come out in March. I can't wait for it to be honest and will be upgrading from my G1 ASAP.
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Try this... seems to have a little more info on the topic
http://www.dcellphone.com/upcoming-phone-htc-bravo-release-april-2010.html
One thing i can't seem to find any info on... is it WM or Android or what?

xmoo said:
The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.
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According to previous reply... Passion is what it will be called dude... but that'll probably change as fast as the ROM in my Touch HD when i get bored with it! ha ha ha
Saying that... wonder what this one is related to? Anyone got any ideas???
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10808.html
Hmmm, interesting.

http://twitter.com/Xmoo/status/9094380911 have fun....

TheShowStopper said:
One thing i can't seem to find any info on... is it WM or Android or what?
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It's android lol!
I'm sure the "Desire" would be a US name? Still Bravo in the UK?

brummiesteven said:
It's android lol!
I'm sure the "Desire" would be a US name? Still Bravo in the UK?
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No Desire is the real product name!
Desire as codename was used for the Droid Eres....
For Verizon wireless it is probably be called Incredible.

Do you have any idea about this and what handset it could be?:
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?s...om/news/31407/htc-o2-phone-expected-wednesday

brummiesteven said:
Do you have any idea about this and what handset it could be?:
http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?s...om/news/31407/htc-o2-phone-expected-wednesday
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Nope, dunno....

brummiesteven said:
Is anyone else looking forward to the bravo? It's basically a Nexus one with hard keys, 720p recording and Sense UI.
Am I looking forward to it, you bet I am. When I saw the specs for the HTC HD2 last year, I was salvating for the whole of the UK. But then you had the well documented camera glitch et al, and the shear size of the handset in my hands just put me off. Alas, then came news of the "Bravo", and it looks like the 3 year wait for well specked smartphone is almost at an end - I can't believe I've turned my nose up at the many offerings that have been cast my way - diamond 1&2, Samsung Omnia 1 & 2...the list goes on.
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Official renders:
Legend & Bravo

Nielsepiels said:
Official renders:
Legend & Bravo
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Or if you don't want to click on links I'll put the pictures below.
THIS IS THE BRAVO
THIS IS THE LEGEND.
All I got to say....F**k the Nexus One. With the Bravo (same specs but looks SOOOOO much sexier and has HTC sense) It will officially go to a carrier without getting a lame ass plan or you can buy it unlocked. Same with the Legend (A powerful phone but it is a budget phone. Great for it's price but It is not going to be weak like the hero or the g1/mt3g. More RAM and a better processor.) It will officially go to a carrier without getting a lame ass plan or you can buy it unlocked.
I heard it was going to T-Mobile UK and at least one (if not both) of the phones is going to T-Mobile USA.

xmoo said:
The Bravo will be released in Barcelona Monday or Tuesday.
It will get a new name, can't tell what tho.
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im gonna be in Barcelona till wednesday! any idea how much it will cost??

ibsa03 said:
im gonna be in Barcelona till wednesday! any idea how much it will cost??
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They will release is, they won't sell it directly!
They gonna release it 2morrow.
Dunno how much, think around 599

HTC say: We're reviewing Ice Cream Sandwich and determining our plans

HTC: We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.
Via: Engadget.com

Wait for ICS running on Sensation
Sent from my greatest Sensation 4G

I'm looking forward to what they're gonna do with Sense next, lol. Hopefully the screen grid will be expanded from 4x4 to at least 4x5 or 5x5.

Me too..cant wait!! Please rush htc!!
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I'm not holding my breath. There are several system dumps here. I bet we have an aosp in a week. May be buggy but we'll have it.
I'm already running ROBOTO font from ICS on my Energy ROM for Sensation 4G. So ANYTHING is possible.
Here's a screenie..
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I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything

ciaphuas said:
I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything
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AMEN to that brother.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

I only wish they add image and video stabilization in camera..

I really am looking forward for ICS...
I wonder what will they do with the capacitive buttons on the HTC Sensation

Pyrobisqit said:
I really am looking forward for ICS...
I wonder what will they do with the capacitive buttons on the HTC Sensation
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Probably use them instead of the on screen buttons that the nexus uses.
matt

HTC and new OS? meh!
Don't dream before mid-2012
Better support our xda devs to find a dump and resize it
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich/

ciaphuas said:
I have a lot more confidence in the hard working indie devs to get us ICS way before HTC gives us anything
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Here here! I dread to see what they'll do to it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Freshly_Snipes said:
I'm not holding my breath. There are several system dumps here. I bet we have an aosp in a week. May be buggy but we'll have it.
I'm already running ROBOTO font from ICS on my Energy ROM for Sensation 4G. So ANYTHING is possible.
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How can we have a AOSP when Google has not even announced if the are going to release the Source code for ICS yet. I mean AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.
I for one really hope that Google does release the Source and does not treat ICS in the same manner they did Honeycomb. But I think they just did not want Honeycomb ported to phones is why they did not make it open Source. Maybe now that ICS has the features of Honeycomb in it Google will not hold back and not release the Source.

ALL Android OS are open source, they are ''obliged'' to release the sources in the 3 months after releasing it on any device.
HTC took the freedom to release their Desire source to the last week so N1 devs couldnt adapt it too soon, but in general as we saw with GB AOSP Google release the sources pretty quickly...specially when a new iphone is endangering sales

vegetaleb said:
ALL Android OS are open source, they are ''obliged'' to release the sources in the 3 months after releasing it on any device.
HTC took the freedom to release their Desire source to the last week so N1 devs couldnt adapt it too soon, but in general as we saw with GB AOSP Google release the sources pretty quickly...specially when a new iphone is endangering sales
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It'll be released. But his point was honeycomb never was

esincho said:
It'll be released. But his point was honeycomb never was
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Yeah that is the exact the point I was trying to make. I am also fairly sure that Google will release the source code for ICS as it is meant for phones and tablets where as Honeycomb was just meant for tablets. But to further my point from my earlier post. Honeycomb source was never released and even the great king the HTC HD2 Leo only got on Honeycomb ROM and it still has a ton of bugs and is not a daily driver ROM. In fact I am not sure if the developer is even still working on the ROm as I have not went to the thread in a good while now. So you see a ROM dump from another device that is running the OS version you want from another device will work to make a port. But ports are mostly buggy at best when first released and also require loads of work by devs. But a AOSP ROM usually works way better and from what I know takes less work from devs to bring to a device.

Can't wait to see what the devs is gonna cook up with ics =)

i think htc should push ICS to sensation and others but without Sense then if htc finish the work in htc Sense 4.0 push new update to sensation and others

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i think htc should push ICS to sensation and others but without Sense then if htc finish the work in htc Sense 4.0 push new update to sensation and others
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lol, good one. They would never

HTC wont push it out to phones unless they can fully integrate sense into it, thats their hallmark. Otherwise it'd just be another android phone

HTC SENSE 4 Video Preview and Screenshots

Video from HTC Ville & Screenshots from HTC Endeavor​
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this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!

Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.

dan-fish said:
this is quite old news now. but thanks for the effort!
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Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame

olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6. It's their way to still persuade us to upgrade our phones.
This is like what they did for original Desire owners... they gave them Gingerbread, but still dumped them with the old HTC sense UI
they will save this new Sense for their new 2012 lineup.
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No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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olyloh6696 said:
Unfoturnately, we won't see a official release of this on our desires... HTC will be selfish bastards and just release us ICS + Sense 3.6.
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The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though

onlyankush_s said:
Ya i know but few people still doubt about Sense 4. So for them i compiled it.
Can blame them for that, they are there to do some business. Happy to hear that they will provide update for DS for android 4 with sense 3.6 when samsung denies proper update for galaxy s.
Hopefully some one will port sense 4 for DS.
Really liked the new clock widget and sense 4 ui. Sense 3.6 is a shame
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Yeah I suppose... Personally I dislike that new clock! It's so ugly hopefully they still keep the old one!
shrome99 said:
No need to get so angry oly You never know, we might get Sense 4. If not, i'm satisfied with Sense 3.6, it's not like either one of us will use the stock upgrade A kernel 3.0, and we're on to the first custom ROM with a Sense 4 port.
As far as the Desire is concerned, that device had very low memory. It could hardly take gingerbread with 2.1. After the update, you could install 10 apps, max. Sense 3 would have maxed it out entirely
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you have a good point about the Desire actually!
Yeah I won't be using the official upgrade anyway
But its easier to base a ROM on a official release rather than a ported one...
amidabuddha said:
The kernel will be more than enough. I am pretty happy with CM9 or clean Android 4. Google guys made a great job with it.
Actually I think that Sense reached its peak already. I hope that I am wrong though
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I agree with you. The main gain we get from the update is the kernel source, and drivers.
Google has done a good job the UI looks pretty for once!
However, I haven't used ICS as my daily driver yet, so I can't tell from its functionality from Sense.
Personally, I think Sense 2.1 and 3.5 are the best upgrades. They added great functionality to their older parts.
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Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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olyloh6696 said:
Sense 4.0 port on Sensation, man its sexy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5dvE9bT3c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Man that looks awesome!!
Sense 4.0, you have a fan-in-waiting already!

Wow that looks nice. Im using Miui at the minute but i think this will take me back!

Completely off topic and totally unrelated, but i thought you guys might wanna watch this!
It made me laugh real hard!

nice one man... poor iphone user.

Samsung; What You've Done With ICS

I love Android Ice Cream Sandwich. I love the fluid user interface, the futuristic Holo theme, the aptly named Roboto font and its swipe-able UI elements among many other qualities. Hell, I love it so much that I’ve even started eating more Ice Cream Sandwiches ever since it was announced. ( just joking )
ICS is a completely new direction for Android, it is its first version that has a coherent design vision behind it, and its Director of User Experience, Matias Duarte has outdone himself. The care and love he has put in while designing it was pretty self-evident, that is, until OEM’s got their slimy hands upon its shiny, beautiful interface. ( yeah, Samsung, i am talking to you )
The crux of the matter is that Samsung just started rolling out its ICS update for its most popular smartphone to date, the Galaxy SII. And it is horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with it, except the fact that it looks EXACTLY the same as Gingerbread. Samsung have taken a revolutionary update to the Android operating system and turned it into an iterative one, which is behaviour that I cannot, in good conscience, condone. I am surprised that Google is not yet up in arms against such a base defilement of its beautiful child.
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Samsung’s logic states that it does not want to change an interface that millions of its users have now gotten used to, which, superficially, seems pretty sound. But, the problem is that people were expecting ICS to be an absolutely revolutionary change and as Nokia and Symbian have already shown us, companies should not keep sticking to a familiar UI and ebb the tide of progress while the world around them keeps evolving. It is a cut-throat world right now, you either innovate and move forward or stagnate and die.
Which brings us to future innovation from Samsung. The company is about to introduce its latest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy SIII. The question then arises as to what Samsung shall make of the software atop such a seminal device; will they again cater to legacy users and use the same version of TouchWiz as on the SGS2, or will they completely re-vamp the UI to accompany the new device? As the situation stands, both of the options present potential pitfalls. If they stick to SGS2’s UI, the tech industry at large would be completely disappointed, as Samsung would be the only company to blatantly ignore ICS to such an extent. On the other hand, if they do introduce a new UI, they would be fragmenting their own Android smartphone portfolio.
Samsung has already garnered a reputation for being very flaky with regard to their updates. They decided not to update the Galaxy S to ICS at all and all this further confusion might be a potential nail in Samsung’s coffin for the year 2012. That is just how fast a single bad decision travels among the tech fraternity in these times.
I don’t want to sound like an Apple fanboy, but this is one place where Samsung and the whole Android OEM conglomerate sorely need to learn the ropes from Apple. They update their phones regularly and consistently. You can still pick up the iPhone 3GS, launched 3 years ago and it would still have more or less the same experience as a newly minted iPhone 4S, while in Samsung’s case, every subsequent generation of their flagship ‘S’ line has a monumentally different experience. Come on Sammy, wise up!
The good ole' Galaxy S, is not getting an 'OFFICIAL' ICS upgrade, why? Because according to them, the RAM in phone is not enough to run the touchwiz and the other carrier added crapware, even when the Google Nexus S ca be updated to the latest ICS offering, which essentially have the same hardware.
If you take a look at the homescreen of the S II, one which is still on Gingerbread and the other one which is updated to ICS, you can barely notice any difference between them.
So, in the end, i just want to state that if samsung's gonna include touchwiz n it's next flagship, at least please update the touchwiz so that we can tell any difference between Gingerbread & ICS.
P.S. I want to add a link for a youtube video which shows two S II, kept side-by side, one Gingerbread & one ICS, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to post the link.

I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
Sent from my Hero using XDA

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yeah! this video, which i want to post, but the forum rules doesn't allow me to do so until i reach the 8 posts.
Anyways, thanks

Habarug said:
I agree, but the reason I don't like TW is not because of fragmentation, but because It's just so extremely ugly. I know this is a personal opinion, but I know many people agree with me and I can't see how Samsung can possibly have missed this and continues to use it.
Also the fact that it is so similar to gb TW is stupid. HTC understood that they had to renew themselves and created a, in my opinion, amazing skin
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yeah, they've completely bungled up the ICS update for S II, only because of the ugly touchwiz. i mean just watch the video once, one can hardly tell the difference between gingerbread & ice cream sandwich, if they want to upgrade the software just to make them look-alike then i guess that their next flagship will be just like their previous, at least when it comes to os

The two biggest cons for me are that Samsung updates horribly slow because of it and that it's plain ugly.
Gingerbread, TouchWiz and Sense are closer to the style of iOS, while Ice Cream Sandwich is closer to the modern Windows Phone 7 style.
I like that much more. The only thing that I find better in WP7 than in iOS and Android is the design of the User Interface.

to be honest I am using a port of the HTC One with Sense 4.0 and Htc did nearly the same thing. If you didnt tell me it was ICS I would think it was gingerbread with a new sense clock widget. I am not sure why the OEMs continue to do this. Maybe samsungs or htcs decisions suite some, but when the first thing I need to do with the HTC port is start yanking apks and adding different launchers to convince myself I am running ICS there is an issue

incredible step backwards. total gingerbread sh!t.
ruins the whole essence of ICS if you ask me.
damn you and your Galaxy Value Pack upgrades too!
I dont want to unlock my phone with my face OK?

Guys you have to understand. We are the 1% of their users. And even some of us prefer ugly UI (MIUI). The OEM will always do this. The UI is their branding on a phone. Most normal users like the way it looks. Personally I have not seem a good looking UI from anyone. All 2 tone colors and flat images. Thank god for custom themes. Lol
If you want regular updates then get a Nexus. When it comes to anything other then the nexus, the carriers have all the control over the updates. (At least in the states)

Some people don't know that you can disable defaults on twlauncher and go to stock launcher instead.

I've made simular comments in the past few months after the first leaked images of the Samsung ICS update.
I argued that what we are seeing is a midcycle update and not the rule of thumb for future devices.
Don't get me wrong, this by no means advocates samsungs decision to strip ICS of its looks and feature set. I'm merely able to understand that many millions of people have bought this phone (millions of very ordinary people) and this isn't like an upgrade from froyo to gingerbread where the notification bar gets changed to black. ICS is a different animal all together.
My mother chose her green screen nokia 3210 over a cybershot Sony Ericsson simply because she wasn't keen on the icon style UI. She has never strayed from nokia since even though they now have icons.
Its a fear of losing customers which has lead to such a timid update and samsung as a brand doesn't have the same innovative swagger as HTC let's say. Where as HTC customers are almost expecting HTC to make everything more glossy and spin around like a disco dancer every two weeks in an update.
My GSII is still amazing with gingerbread. I've changed the launcher which I would have done and will do no matter what they did with ICS. Orange UK will release the ICS update in the coming weeks and my expectations are safely low.
I don't believe this will be the case for the GSIII by the way. Plus I also here that samsung may be the first to offer a choice of the new TW ICS (that's not so locked to the gingerbread experience) and Vanilla ICS.
My fingers are crossed and anyway my next upgrade cycle isn't until next year when jellybean will be out and the GSIV or "the New GS" will be in full swing.
Booooom!
** Most truths were once deemed blasphemy **
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ICS status bar battery is green! need I say more?
maybe they honestly tried, but with that touchwiz camoflauge, I have to do a double/triple take to see ICS.
SGS2:

Lol see the problem is, samsung believes in only changing the interface and adding true new features in their next flagship phone, unlike iOS where the new interface changes show up on older models. Samsung i hate you, and not by opinion but because i have the tab 8.9 and captivate and you havent done anything to fix their various bugs etc, so i have to rely on custom romsol

It's embarrassingly bad.
Sent from my SGS II

I guess the rational is that too radical a change would upset the uninformed users
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ICS not support ad-hoc!!!
using ICS only 1 hour and i flash it back to gingerbread 2.3.6, at least my gb 2.3.6 can connect to ad-hoc network and ics CAN NOT!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24766415

yeah, samsung are just careless when coming to device maintaining, but i don't care as long as there are devs that make ports and roms that i love, and samsung releases sources !!!

I agree, I have not had a stock firmware on any of my android devices for longer than a day or so in years. I guess that is actually a pretty hurtful statement to the OEMs software though

shadowskorch said:
Some people don't know that you can disable defaults on twlauncher and go to stock launcher instead.
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Hi, what are the steps to do so?
Thanks

HTC canceled ICS for Desire...

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?

FatGrover said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Does this mean no ICS for Inspire?
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It was never coming for the inspire anyway
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I meant mostly because most ICS roms for Inspire were waiting for ics kernel of desire hd...

It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.

I wont ever own another HTC product. Promise ics to DHD and then say the customer quality is what they are concerned about. Yet the desire c is half our phone and is getting it >.<
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I agree, I have owned a number of HTC products in the past and this is reinforcing my jumping ship to other manufacturers.

amf66 said:
It doesn't matter that it was never coming for the Inspire specifically. Any ICS update for the Desire HD can be easily ported and help all Inspire owners. We should be angry about this, not only Desire HD owners.
It means no official ICS. There are already several unofficial AOSP ICS ROMs and a few Desire V ICS ports.
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I know that, he never specified whether he was talking about custom roms or not
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Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.

zelendel said:
Guys let me let you in on a little secret. All OEM are the same when it comes to this. Mainly here in the states where the carriers control the updates. With the way hardware and Android are updating the best you can hope for is a 6 month period where the device may get an update. After that all bets are off. If updates are important to you then get a Nexus and be done with it. Its not like most dont run a AOSP based rom anyway so why pay all the extra for the OEM stuff. No need to be all upset about it.
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Nexus FTW
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!

that sucks ..
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Sucks
Sucks big time, bye HTC, Hello Nexus

Adeelx said:
Sucks big time, by HTC, Hello Nexus
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[bye] HTC. Hello Galaxy Note 2.
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It is what it is
There is nothing we can do about HTC cancelling the update to DHD except complain to HTC. If you want the best possibility of updates then a Google Nexus phone is the way to go (as already mentioned). Remember that it is probably not ICS specifically that created performance issues, but rather the combination of ICS and whatever version of a newer Sense (Rosie) HTC was planning. I have experienced that the phone handles AOSP ICS versions just fine, but Sense 3.0 and later versions paired with ICS would probably be a drag on this phone. Remember that when the Inspire came out, other manufacturers were already utilizing dual core technology so the phone was already behind the times upon release.

Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.

luciano.chavez said:
Right. Some of the custom ICS ROMs run very smoothly. It must be Sense that is the problem. Too bad, really. I intend to keep running with the Redemption ICS ROM on the Inspire until Google announces the next Nexus later this year and then I will jump ship. I was tempted, especially with JB, to buy a GSM GN but given that by October or November we might have some new Nexus hardware announced, I just need to be patient.
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I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.

aybarrap1 said:
I have noticed that GB and Sense 3.0 and 3.5 custom ROMs have the occasional lag. I can only imagine what ICS combined with 3.5 (or even 4.0) would do to the usability. I have tried a couple of AOSP based ICS roms and they work well (except for the bugs such as camera issues). I have had better experiences in regards to performance with CM 7 ROMs than I ever did with the rooted stock rom (with bloatware removed of course). I will be buying a new Nexus myself once a newer version is released. I will use my contract renewal to get my wife a new phone every year (keeps her quiet about cheap gifts at Christmas and birthdays which are less than a month apart) and I get a phone which I know will receive support for a long time.
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AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
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Was a huge HTC fan before I saw this.
Dare I say cough cough... iPhone 5 for my next phone? naaa
But the Samsung Galaxy III sounds like a good choice.
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AOSPX now has a working video camera. Only 480 l but still works.
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Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.

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Relax guys. I've realized that even if they don't want us to have it, we will get it as soon as the Desire S or Incredible S gets kernel source for ICS. After that, porting a full Sense 4 or 3.6 ROM is a walk in the park.
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Even then, team virtuous has nearly finished porting a completely working HTC 3.0 kernel. Sense doesn't work on our phones because we don't have the right kernel running under it. Virtuous and Pacha have 2 ROMs that are almost completely working. Camera doesn't work on some phones that have hardware from omnivision (me unfortunately :crying, but if you have Samsung hardware then you're in luck. Some of the other sense 4/2.6 ROMS also work without a hitch if you flash the 3.0 kernel, and a few patches.