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I sat on my Fuze :(

Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?

That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....

wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.

There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5

wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.

I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.

wxy117 said:
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
http://translate.google.com/transla...ka/htc-touch-pro/&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?

wxy117 said:
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it

be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....

wxy117 said:
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.

Don't forget to read this

They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...

I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!

pisqle said:
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?

To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.

from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*

wxy117 said:
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.

I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....

So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?

[GUIDE] I9000 Screen Replacement

This topic has clues for replacing the screen. I have not concluded an manual for chancing it yet but reading this whole topic gives you the big picture how it is done. Questions are always welcome and I try to answer them with my knowledge. This 1st post gives you 2 links to follow for pics about changing screen and my own starting point for chancing my own screen.
Has anyone bought and installed a digitizer+screen set which is on sale at ebay? I could not post direct link to ebay because I'm a newbie on these forums. You can find the product searching ebay with these keywords "I9000 digitizer". My galaxy's screen cracked and I need an replacement. Both screen and glass broke. I think that this set includes them both. There is also told in the questions that the set infact includes amoled display and not LCD as the title says.
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
Third question is that doesn't samsung vibrant and galaxy s share the same chassis but different screen with more capacitive buttons. Could it be possible to install vibrant's screen to galaxy s?
PS. The way my galaxy brokedown is very funny. I lay down my phone on the kitchen table and the screen cracked. I was like OMFG when I heard the cracking noise. Phone was like 13 days old. Samsung does not repair it with warranty because they think that it wasn't an manufacturing defect. They said that I have dropped my phone and that's the way it broke. That could not be the case because I handled it like a baby. I would have to pay 255€ for new screen and digitizer. Hell no!! I'm a student so that sum does not fit with my wallet.
New screen installed, see posts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7683527&postcount=37 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7710572&postcount=40
Edit: Ebay's prices have rised noticeable in the last couple of months. At the moment the price for these screens is around 100$. I found this site which sells them for 60£. http://www.shineyourmobile.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=8128

pekkala89 said:
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
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There are 2 videos on the net, both on youtube I think. Just search "i9000 Disassembly" and you'll find one of them.
The Galaxy S has a serious design flaw as the glass goes around the home button (and the call ear/speaker) so it's very vulnerable there to shattering. I had my phone in the pocket and suddenly when I take it out I see it cracked right next to the home button. What had I done during the time it got cracked? The only possible explanation was carrying a _small_ speaker that then probably hit it. I was so surprised when I saw it cracked because even a speaker hit, when I lifted it up, is hard to consider cracking the screen.
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.

Schmich said:
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.

the same...
i had a similar unfortunate event ... my screen cracked when i hit the phone to the metallic frame of a chair (it slipped out of my hand )...
it cracked exactly like you people said... near the home button.
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
it is quite tricky to dissassemble the display part but hope to succed...
keep you posted with the outcome
respect

pekkala89 said:
I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
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Yeah that's my fear but I presume they just heat up the glue. That's how some industries do for other products. I think dental bracers (& its glue) have a different technique as well. So, will be interesting to see.

gallaxya said:
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
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Where did you order it from?

If you were asked to pay more than $250 for screen replacement, then why don't you send it to Samsung in Korea? They will replace your SAMOLED for mere USD $100ish and ship it back to you for free (or may be not). This way you get a genium quality from original manufacturer and absolutely no hassles!

I dropped mine from around 4ft onto a concrete floor and its fine. Maybe I just got lucky.

Digitizer+Samoled set ordered from ebay. I should get it in two weeks. If possible I try to take pictures of the changing process and make an manual. I hope it's not glued tight to the chassis.

please do, i have some f***ing little scratches all over the screen, thought it was supposed to be scratch resistant.
Worst part is that it's in it's protective pouch all the time (maybe that's the probleme, dirt/dust might get trapped and rub against the screen).

Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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yrizan said:
Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.

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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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Sorry to say got in to the same problems
Looks like the phone is build around the screen. Be careful with the metal ring, on top and bottom its between the screen and chassis, so if you brute force to much the screen cracks even more. The screen is glued to the chassis all around with superglue. I am not sure if its even possible to repalce the screen. It let me thinking that samsung wont repair broken galaxys , just replace them.
Ill keep working on the phone and keep trying, but compared to changing the screen on iphone is this like changing the screen on a iphone as a blind man without arms.
People thinking of buying this screen kit on eBay, don't do it. Just contact samsung for a repair.
Ill keep you posted.

I got the screen off.
No need to loosen the metaling ring around. The screen in dropped in the chassis from the front.
On the mainboard, just pop off the screen cable, long and flat next to the SD card slot.
The next step is very strange, just use brute force and crack the screen off the chassis, start from the top
When you get around the home button, be careful. Samsung has clued 2 sensors to the screen and chassis for back and option button. Best thing to do here is bend the screen back a little and cut loos the sensors from the digitizer with a sharp knife/scalpel. Samsung has used insane amount of clue on this phone.
Both the digitizer and amoled screen was clued to the chassis.
The next step is to clean off all the clue, buy loads of glue. Fill the chassis with glue and press the new screen on.
Wish me luck.
Ill keep you posted.

Making me a bit scared reading this thread, I`ve just bought phone Insurance just in case.Good luck fitting your replacement screens, sounds a bit daunting.

YES!!!
New screen in place and everything is working perfectly. Took about 3 hours first time (give or take). Its possible to do it a lot faster. The biggeste problem is the glue. Melting at about 120 celsius, but i was scared to heat the glas as i didnt know how much heat the mainbord could stand. All in all a pain in the a**, but doable.
I can also confirm this screen from ebay to be an orginal samsung amoled screen.
Best of luck too others trying a screen replace.
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amoled or samoled though?

My mistake. Its a samoled screen
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Awesome!!! thanks for the review
did you manage to snap a few pictures meanwhile you were working in your phone?

Im sorry, no pictures
The charger is missing to my canon camera, new one incomming from ebay. I'll post pictures next time ill change the screen ;-)
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quick question about fixing screen

ok so I dropped my one s and my screen quit working (its all black). It still registers when I touch it though (I can still unlock it and everything) does this mean I just need to replace the screen? Or could there be more to it than that? If you need more information just ask. Thanks in advance for your help!!!
EDIT: There's a crack in the screen from the drop. But it's so thin it's almost impossible to see.

daddymac2011 said:
ok so I dropped my one s and my screen quit working (its all black). It still registers when I touch it though (I can still unlock it and everything) does this mean I just need to replace the screen? Or could there be more to it than that? If you need more information just ask. Thanks in advance for your help!!!
EDIT: There's a crack in the screen from the drop. But it's so thin it's almost impossible to see.
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I had the same issue. the easiest option is to buy the LCD/digitizer with the Glass, but the cost is around $120.
the cheaper option is for you to separate the glass for the LCD/digitizer yourself and just order the glass yourself $5
that's what I went and did and it didn't go so well for me, broke the LCD while taking the shattered glass off.

bayardo2001 said:
I had the same issue. the easiest option is to buy the LCD/digitizer with the Glass, but the cost is around $120.
the cheaper option is for you to separate the glass for the LCD/digitizer yourself and just order the glass yourself $5
that's what I went and did and it didn't go so well for me, broke the LCD while taking the shattered glass off.
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I have purchased this, as the LCD and touch are working fine. In your opinion, would a mobile technician be able to handle the procedure to separate the glass lens and replace it ?

I'm sure a technician can, but taking off the glued glass is a lengthy process.. took me 2 hours.

Display replacement

Unfortunately I crashed display on moto x play...so if anybody now trusted site to buy new one....tnx

Anyone found a display replacement that includes the front cover? Without it, it should be nearly impossible, am I right?
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I haven't seen any.
I tried combining the components and failed. Broke the circuitry in the LCD when trying to mount the frame...

I asked Motorola what i should do when i dropped my phone and the glas got broken. They told i should send it to their repair service, it was datrepair in Germany maybe its another in other countries. They Arranged everything for me and i paid 120€ for the replacement, just the glass maybe touch but idk, screen was ok when i was sending it in. They even took care of shipping without any cost for me.
Normaly i repair devices by myselfe but in fact the phone was only 1 Month old i refused to it.

If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online

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If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online
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For that, you would need the lcd including the frame which is nicht available yet...
So atm nearly impossible.

I managed to get some tiny cracks on the edge near the front camera (it fell onto metal from my jacket, i was bending over). Thankfully it's not the touch area, but i now somehow understand why so many people have cracked phones. It happens so quickly. And i was treating it like a raw eggshell, too.

I dropped mine as I was getting out of the car.It cost me R1500 (R is for South African Rand) to replace the screen.The guys who repaired it had to crack the plastic frame to get the screen out .They used glue to keep the new screen in place.I dont think they knew what they were doing,but it was the only repair center that was in the same province as me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it

There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.

Jeklund said:
There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it
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Yeah, please make a video it'll help many.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_yzMPWCQOM This video shows the whole process with a complete display assembly. Its incredibly more difficult if you get the screen without the frame as the screen is affixed to the frame with some sort of adhesive foam.

I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..

Crizzl said:
I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..
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Best of luck, if you can document the process as there isn't much info out on screen replacements where you affix a new frame to a screen. My frame broke when I dropped my phone which is why I just got the whole unit. Cost me about $62 CAD shipped for the whole unit.

Has anyone here tried a replacement? Any tips?

So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement

apokolok said:
So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement
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So, I tried for myself with my old display after I got a replacement new display including a new frame.
It is absolutely impossible to separate the front glass from the digitizer and display without destroying all three.
I think even a professional wouldn't be able to do it. Display and digitizer are very flexible while the screen is glued really really good to them
I heated it up to no avail. Maybe some glue remover would have helped, but I don't think it would get between the glass and the digitizer.
These phones are just not build to be repared, they are build to be thrown away.
Exchanging the new frame including display was no easy job too, but it can be done.
Be sure to have a high quality Torx T3 screwdriver or bit, the cheap china ones will do nothing but destroy the tiny screws.

what kind of damage is this?

Hi!
A few days ago I dropped my phone and until it hit the ground, I accidently kicked him with my leg and it got knocked by the wall and finally touched the floor. When I lifted it up from the ground I noticed what you see in the picture. It look's like an air bubble between the screen and the screen protector. But this bubble is underneath the first layer of the screen. Until today the "bubble" hasn't expanded, and I hope it wouldn't go further. My phone has still got the warranty paper available, idk if I'm going to send my device to their service and they will repair it...or I can go to a random service to check it out and maybe they will be able to repair it, or do worse...
What is this "bubble" afterall?

Screen is made of multiple layers, the digitizer (for touch) is the top layer iirc, the screen LCD is underneath, usually glued together, looks like the two have separated

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Screen is made of multiple layers, the digitizer (for touch) is the top layer iirc, the screen LCD is underneath, usually glued together, looks like the two have separated
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Any chance to repair it without great costs?

Smantanasiceapa said:
Any chance to repair it without great costs?
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Without replacing the screen, not sure, I know you have to use a heat gun to melt the glue between the screens to replace just the top glass layer, so it's possible if it has just come unstuck that could melt it back down, but might make it worse