Really basic question! Is the HTC email app or the standard yellow AOSP one better for battery life?
HTC mail in my opinion bcos it had peak and non peak period mail checking preferences which you can set how many days in a week and plus define your own timing of peak period. It also let you select minutes and hourly intervals.
The yellow one that you refers to I believe allows only hourly intervals without options to set peak periods preference. Currently I'm on ics senseless 2.10 and the yellow mail have maximum of 1hour intervals,that's it. So to summarise and answer your question, in my opinion is htc mail.
suhaimidee said:
HTC mail in my opinion bcos it had peak and non peak period mail checking preferences which you can set how many days in a week and plus define your own timing of peak period. It also let you select minutes and hourly intervals.
The yellow one that you refers to I believe allows only hourly intervals without options to set peak periods preference. Currently I'm on ics senseless 2.10 and the yellow mail have maximum of 1hour intervals,that's it. So to summarise and answer your question, in my opinion is htc mail.
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Thanks for your thoughts. Do you happen to have any specific/detailed information about how much drain each app uses? I am just curious which app is more efficient before using the filters you just mentioned.
Cant be that quite detail as from my setup with htc mail would be like peak hour: set from 8am-5pm @30mins interval. So after the peak hour i set it to 3hrs interval. if using the yellow mail, just imagine at every 1hr intervals of checks being performed. Hope you get the idea.
Edit: If email within the office hours is important then yes, you can double the frequency or else you can set at 2hrs or more intervals.
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Cant be that quite detail as from my setup with htc mail would be like peak hour: set from 8am-5pm @30mins interval. So after the peak hour i set it to 3hrs interval. if using the yellow mail, just imagine at every 1hr intervals of checks being performed. Hope you get the idea.
Edit: If email within the office hours is important then yes, you can double the frequency or else you can set at 2hrs or more intervals.
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Makes sense.
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Wondering if anyone has tried to use Juice Defender with Touchdown activesync push? I need to receive my work emails immediately, but from what I can gather, Juice Defender turns off the mobile network with the screen off, which will prevent Touchdown from receiving push emails.
Is this correct? And if so, is there any workaround?
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You can set JuiceDefender to Balanced, Aggressive, etc. You want to choose 'Customize'. Then just take like 30 minutes to go through the settings tab and change it to your liking. One of the abilities is to set certain apps to always be connected to the internet(It's the very last setting, all the way at the bottom). I used it for a while but I noticed instead of having the usual x2.10 increased battery life it dropped down to about x1.54, now I don't even use JD at all. It just messed with my weather widgets too much.
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You can set JuiceDefender to Balanced, Aggressive, etc. You want to choose 'Customize'. Then just take like 30 minutes to go through the settings tab and change it to your liking. One of the abilities is to set certain apps to always be connected to the internet(It's the very last setting, all the way at the bottom). I used it for a while but I noticed instead of having the usual x2.10 increased battery life it dropped down to about x1.54, now I don't even use JD at all. It just messed with my weather widgets too much.
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Unfortunately, this didn't work for me. I bought Juice Defender Plus in order to apply settings to specific apps. I chose "enable/screen off" for Touchdown, but when I send an email from my desktop gmail account to my Android's Exchange Touchdown account, my phone does one of two things:
1) It receives the email (delayed), and the 4g signal stays on in perpetuity
2) It does not receive the email. 4g is off and stays off until I turn the screen on. When the 4g signal turns on, the email usually comes in immediately, but is sometimes delayed a couple minutes.
I don't want either of these outcomes. I just want it to turn on 4g when Touchdown receives a push email, and then turn 4g off immediately.
What am I doing wrong?
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You can set JuiceDefender to Balanced, Aggressive, etc. You want to choose 'Customize'. Then just take like 30 minutes to go through the settings tab and change it to your liking. One of the abilities is to set certain apps to always be connected to the internet(It's the very last setting, all the way at the bottom). I used it for a while but I noticed instead of having the usual x2.10 increased battery life it dropped down to about x1.54, now I don't even use JD at all. It just messed with my weather widgets too much.
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So I've been using Juice Defender today, and I STILL see about the same drop in battery, despite the fact that it turns my MOBILE DATA OFF, only syncing 5 minutes every 15 minutes. I've been on Wifi most of the day, which also shuts off, only syncing 5 minutes every 15 minutes. In 5 hours, I've dropped 41% of my battery. I've had my screen on for a grand total of 26 minutes.
What's strange is, when I go into CPUspy, it seems that the phone has spent more than 40 minutes using either the 800 or 1000 mhz clock speed. I have Touchdown set to pass through JD, and when I go to spare parts, it says the app has been used for 15 minutes in "partial wake usage." In comparison, the Android System has only used about 13 minutes. SMS has used 45 seconds. I have activesync on, but I haven't received a single email today. Why is Touchdown in use for 15 minutes? Is this normal? Does it have something to do with activesync trying to run when JD has shut off all my data?
Someone please weigh in. This battery life battle is infuriating.
JD doesn't re-enable the data connection on our LTE devices. It's a known issue being worked on by the developer: http://feedback.latedroid.com/forum...vate-beta/suggestions/1341575-4g-wimax-issues
I'm using the HTC Mail app (Sense 3.5 - Endymion 3.2 ROM) for reading my work IMAP mail.
I don't want to poll this mail continuously, only poll/refresh manually.
My update frequency is set to "manual", however the app keeps updating regularly.
Once per 3 minutes it seems.
I do use JuiceDefender (set to 15 minutes), but that doesn't change the fact that the update frequency is set to "manual".
What am I doing wrong?
I've had the opposite problem with the HTC mail app. Refresh set to push, but test emails take 30 mins to show up. Regardless of setting or hitting refresh. I've found it's just inconsistent. Does K9 mail do the same thing?
If juice defender is anything like tasker, it can force a refresh even if you have the apps frequency turned down. Tasker however, uses a plugin called Synker to do this, which you can specify what accounts are refreshed. Perhaps give it a go if juice defender it's the issue.
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Hi,
First post here, so I hope I'm posting at the right place.
Just bought an unlocked Samsung Omnia W (Focus Flash stateside) around four days ago. I didn't notice anything about the battery life the first two days since I was using it quite heavily and felt the rapid discharge was normal (the usual rigmarole- everything turned on).
Last two days, I've started using services more selectively, and still see my battery discharging at an alarming rate. I'm talking 5-8% in an hour with barely a minute or so of the screen being on for checking texts and sending a few.
I've disabled everything- location services, ALL live tiles, WiFi, Bluetooth, even went as far as to disable 3G and switched to 2G. I switched back to 3G because where I'm at I get a full 3G signal but a very light 2G signal. I've put off all background services (Gmapps was the only one, I uninstalled it). Turned off Xbox Live connection as well. Turned off facebook chat. Removed the People Tile. Three email accounts set to sync "as mail arrives".
I noticed the battery saver screen was showing me only 3 hours on 48% charge. I then completely discharged the battery through WPBench battery test (which showed 52 minutes starting at 25% battery life). Now, I've been charging it for an hour or so, and the battery saver screen shows 22% and estimates only 1 hour as the run time.
Is my battery defective? The WPBench time of 52 minutes for 25% seemed par for the Focus Flash (Engadget gave it a run time of 3 hours 30 on WP bench I think), but this fast discharge is really baffling and makes me kind of afraid to use the phone too much. I've heard the Flash has stellar battery life, so if anyone can throw some light on the matter, that would be great.
By the way, updated to 8107 two days ago through Zune. Normal usage consists of 30-40 texts a day, an hour of calls max and maybe 10-15 minutes of browsing. Battery saver screen usually shows only 9-10 hours on a full charge, though it does last a bit longer than that (14-16 hours). I'm sure such light usage doesn't warrant such a quick discharge.
I apologize if this makes for a really long read, first time here.
Thanks.
First, battery saver gives times based on previous data so it will get more accurate with time. Second, the battery will get better after about of week of use, it takes a little time to 'break in.' Third, if you are in an area that has poor reception your phone will try to find a signal a lot more and this can drain power quite a bit. Fourth, try returning everything to normal as far as background agents, email sync, and data settings ect. but turn 'battery saver' on after a full charge. If you still have bad battery life then perhaps somethng is wrong with your battery/phone.
EDIT: if you are using 'light' as your theme you will use a lot more power since amoled screens work best with black bacgrounds since the black areas are essentally 'off'
Been using a dark tile. Let's see how it handles with time.
A lot of my friends with Android phones simply keep data off since their batteries barely last if it's on, do I need to take any such harsh measures with WP? I hope not, I like my mail to arrive immediately (I have set sync on "as mail arrives").
Push email (the "as mail arrives" setting) is actually a very substantial power-drain. Setting it to even just every few minutes (5? 15? I forget what the next level down is) will help.
I may be wrong, but won't it cost less battery if the phone was getting push mail, say, three times a day for 3 separate mails as compared to checking every hour 24 times a day?
Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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Why would you think that? The phone doesn't magically know when email is available for it, to only wake up the email sync process and data connection then and leave them off the rest of the time. It has to maintain a continuous (or nearly - often enough that you don't notice the gap) connection to the server. Even idle, any kind of live data connection uses more power than a process which stays suspended 99.9% of the time (meaning 86.4 seconds of activity per day, which is probably a pretty good estimate actually).
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I thought push email and other kind of push notifications were sent from the server to the phone, and so the phone didn't have to be constantly checking for email updates...
The phone needs to be listening for those notifications. That requires running the radio (for data) at a higher-than-minimum level. Push notifications have a similar impact to push email, in terms of battery life. It's not hugely destructive - I have two email accounts that use push, and still tend to get through the day and then a bit just fine - but it does impact the battery life.
Which kind of notification consumes less battery ? Logic tells me that push notifications should consume more battery since it's almost instantaneous but I've read it doesn't exactly work like that , I'm quite confused now
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Push uses less battery.
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Push can use less battery but it depends on lots of stuff, including the server on the other end.
Push has the nice feature of instantaneous notifications because it's semi constantly connected to the server. It polls the server every X seconds and gets long each time there's no new message to keep connectivity alive. When the server gets a message it initiates the connection to the phone telling it to download new messages and then it pulls them down.
Pull on the other hand just checks at a set interval of every X minutes. You can do 15, 30, etc... If you have pull set to a fast check time say 5 mins, it will needlessly waste battery every 5 mins going into full active mode to check the server often times for no reason. If you however have your pull set to check ever 4hrs that may be less power than push but if you need email all during your day you'll obviously be checking in more often.
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Push can use less battery but it depends on lots of stuff, including the server on the other end.
Push has the nice feature of instantaneous notifications because it's semi constantly connected to the server. It polls the server every X seconds and gets long each time there's no new message to keep connectivity alive. When the server gets a message it initiates the connection to the phone telling it to download new messages and then it pulls them down.
Pull on the other hand just checks at a set interval of every X minutes. You can do 15, 30, etc... If you have pull set to a fast check time say 5 mins, it will needlessly waste battery every 5 mins going into full active mode to check the server often times for no reason. If you however have your pull set to check ever 4hrs that may be less power than push but if you need email all during your day you'll obviously be checking in more often.
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Thank you for the explanation, I have a better Idea now what push does , I'll make sure to use it, I still can't believe there are some apps that come with a 5 minute refresh selected by default! aka tweedle, ATE may battery the first two days I was using it , until I noticed the outrageous refresh rate
How can I set so Gmail is set to sync manually? Now whenever I get a mail it notifies me instantly. I've checked every setting but can't find the sync option.
ArtieQ said:
How can I set so Gmail is set to sync manually? Now whenever I get a mail it notifies me instantly. I've checked every setting but can't find the sync option.
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disable it in google sync first. now if you want to check for new mail, open gmail, then swipe down on the screen. or, press the menu(top right, 3 dots), then press refresh
Phone settings
Accounts/Google
Click email of choice
Uncheck Gmail
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Ah thanks guys, I must have missed that one lol. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference this will make to the battery as I get a lot of emails but usually just check my mail like 5 times a day or so.
ArtieQ said:
Ah thanks guys, I must have missed that one lol. Will be interesting to see how much of a difference this will make to the battery as I get a lot of emails but usually just check my mail like 5 times a day or so.
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I wouldn't expect anything drastic
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You're turning on the screen to check for email, isn't that potentially worse for battery life?
You could look into tasker to automate it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
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You're turning on the screen to check for email, isn't that potentially worse for battery life?
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Uhm, I don't think so? Before Gmail was fetching all the time which meant the process was active at all times, now it's terminated so I would assume battery life will improve.
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You could look into tasker to automate it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
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Gonna take a look at it.
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Uhm, I don't think so? Before Gmail was fetching all the time which meant the process was active at all times, now it's terminated so I would assume battery life will improve.
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The process just listens, it doesn't actively seek out anything. The process is still "active" even if you manually sync. With a scheduled refresh you will be "hand shaking" every time so this obviously uses more power than push. If you're only manually syncing 5 times a day, this can't be on that level so you may see a small increase (well you probably wont "see" or "notice" the difference) in battery life.
You'd have to have the screen on to read them anyway but it would be on longer with a manual sync as with push the e-mails would be already there and pull - you'd have the screen on whilst waiting for them to come in.
I don't think you will see any noticeable difference, but will be interesting to see your results...
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Uhm, I don't think so? Before Gmail was fetching all the time which meant the process was active at all times, now it's terminated so I would assume battery life will improve.
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As mentioned before, it does not fetch email. Google's servers send the messages to you only when you have a new one. Fetching is when your phone wakes up at predefined intervals, checks the server for new messages and then goes back to sleep. Fetching wastes battery and is inefficient. Disabling sync on your gmail is pretty much pointless and will have next to 0 impact on your battery life. It sounds to me more like you are unhappy with being notified very often of new messages. For that I suggest you simply disable notifications for the various inbox labels in your gmail app. I currently have 4 gmail accounts actively syncing, and this is what an overnight battery test looks like for me