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Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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honeycomb is gunna rock peoples socks!
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Yeah -- have fun with your iPhone then.
HA It wont be dieing for me. I would never pick a iPhone over an android. Android so much more flexible and inventive in my humble opinion.
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Tomorrow does not have an 'a' in it.
And no, the iPhone will not kill the Android no matter what carrier signs it. iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof -- but the more advanced and adept users will always gravitate towards Android (linux) and Corporate users towards Windows.
Besides, iPhones to date have been overpriced and, like Macs, the only way you can run their OS is on their hardware. Android runs on everything from tablets to mp3 players to cell phones across a variety of manufacturers.
I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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Backhand hand smack in the mouth?
delugeofspam said:
iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof
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awesome dude... share it on twitter xD
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Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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Seriously?? No dev support? Have you taken the phone out of the box and used it?
You do realize that your posting about no dev support on one of the larger dev communities right?
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only used HTC handsets now for maybe 6 years or so, now purely android and a tablet as well.
wife has an iphone 3gs running the new OS on it, had her use my android handset for a week as a test ...
she admitted if it weren't for the games and stupid little bits and bobs she was used to having she'd sell the iphone and switch in a heartbeat but alas not to be
BigBonkers said:
Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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HA! no support from the devs? Try owning a palm pre. I just ditched one for the new evo shift, and so far I am LOVING the amount of support for android
Please don't feed the troll!
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone. As far as the pre i think it has the best os just horrible hardware.
Look at what Nividia showed running on the Tegra chips at CES.....1 year old PORTS of games that run on the Iphone perfectly.
Hardware is fine and dandy but NO SUPPORT guys. Its sad.
I honestly beleive once the iphone comes to verizon noone on BigRed will ever buy an android again. Atleast the common user. Well see soon. This is gonna be fun!!!!!!
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you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone.
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This is just blatantly wrong, so go troll somewhere else -- there's lots of big-name developers on Android, including some from the iPhone world.
And yes, there's lots of garbage on the android market, but it does work. Don't forget that Amazon will be launching their cleaned-up android market this year too.
@burtcom actually your proving my point. please show me ONE app that they focused on the TEGRA chips that isnt on the Iphone??? Please name one? Also Amazon market??? Ummm where is it? Ohhhh its not here yet....oh ok Let me know when it is!
Please name me the developers on Android...... Netflix (not yet)...Gameloft (ummm old ports from iphone) EA.....ummm wheres madden? Oh still in beta?
Dont talk when you have no clue!
Oh and if there are games on Gamelofts site (the Ports) there made for the droid phones and the resolution is way off wack!!! But enjoy
The US is the last place that the iPhone hasn't been available on multiple carriers. The rest of the world has carriers with both the iPhone and Android phones competing directly, and Android is still doing great there. A Verizon iPhone will probably put a dent in their Android handset sales, no doubt, but there's always going to be a segment of the market that want something cheaper, or more powerful.
So no, Android will be just fine after tomorrow.
And apps are not the be all end all. They only matter so much to iPhone because it's basically just a glorified app launcher with a few apps bundled in. You can't even see the current weather without launching an app.
OP, you do realize that the iPhone is available on many major carriers in the the rest of world, right? Do you seriously think the US has the biggest cellphone market? (The answer is no. I'm telling you this since you probably don't know the answer.) Android is still growing at a rapid rate and taking up market share in the rest of the world. We shall see how the iPhone 4 does IN THE US when it comes to Verizon. If iPhone 4 Verizon does destroy the Android, then Android will die ONLY in the US, not the rest of the world.
So what if many apps are ported from the iPhone? Why don't you ask why those developers are porting their apps over to Android if they don't see the potential of Android?
Technically, Android has the best developer that no iPhone developers can compare - Google itself. Where did iPhone's Maps and Youtube apps come from? Which OS has the better Google apps?
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good.
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You didn't ask, you simply implied that iOS is better. People here are just disagreeing with you. And most of your arguments are surrounding the game department of the iOS. What else do you have? Even if you bring some more things on the table, you still can't argue what I wrote in my first few paragraphs. Enjoy the iPhone. I honestly think it is a great phone, but I hope you didn't type your posts using the iPhone. If so, learn how to fully use your iPhone please, otherwise it would just be a waste, no offense.
When people keep talking about apps apps apps for iPhone, they are just talking about games. Really, ask any iPhone users what awesome apps they are talking about that aren't games, and they will not have an answer for you. Or name apps that also exist on Android. Netflix? Yeah, its pretty cool. But its not like its been out all that long for iPhone, and the video selection is pretty limited, AND it will be out for Android anytime now, since it was already leaked at CES.
Seriously, how many games do you need? I love playing games as much (probably more) than the next guy. And there is plenty on Android, and developer support is growing. If you need more games than available on Android, its pretty likely that you need to spend more time on other activities besides playing little casual games on your phone.
Besides, not all developers are in love with Apple. Look at Adobe and PrimeSense (the original developer of the XBox 360 Kinect controller). These are important players, that were completely turned off by Apple's need to domineer and control, and eventually gave up on Apple.
The OP implies that the only reason that not everyone owns an iPhone, is because they are tied to Verizon. There are plenty of people like me that have been on AT&T forever, but have no interest in the iPhone. AT&T customer for over a decade, and I've never owned an iPhone, and never will. If Apple had their way, there would be no variety in hardware, or how we use our phones. There will always be people that find these types of limitations suffocating and unacceptable. Some of us like to have the choice of more than one form factor (say a larger screen, or a smaller one, or a hardware keyboard), or to have a homescreen that isn't just a near-useless grid of shortcuts. It would be a sad place where only one device could exist. Luckily, things don't work that way, and there is always room for competition in just about any business. So with any luck, Android won't be going anywhere soon.
Sure the iPhone is popular. But saying an OS is doomed just because its not the most popular platform, and doesn't have the most games, then that's the same as saying Mac computer shouldn't exist either.
Android won't die tomorrow
But troll should die today
I don't know about others but to me a cell its more like a helping hand or what ever you like to call it. Atleast for the tech lovers like me. But we all have different ways of doing our day to day stuffs. Android appreciates and compliments that. That's why I will go for Android. For the level of freedom it gives you, not how many new cookies it have in the box.
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Android is for guys..... iOS is for girls. Really!
http://m.pcgh.de/(S(4c2p4i55naliy455fdiacc45))/News/Articleviewer.aspx?id=802741
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Anybody seen this yet? I wonder what it means in the long run...
ITC Judge Rules in Favor of Apple in HTC Patent Case
http://www.newsy.com/videos/itc-judge-rules-in-favor-of-apple-in-htc-patent-case
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*refers the op back a page in the general section to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171256
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*refers the op back a page in the general section to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171256
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Ah, thank you. My apologies, I generally spend my time in the development and/or mod section. I posted it here cos it has no relevance in either.
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CLoft239 said:
Ah, thank you. My apologies, I generally spend my time in the development and/or mod section. I posted it here cos it has no relevance in either.
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sure no problem, lol
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sure no problem, lol
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that judge has his hand in apples pockets.
bthomp21 said:
that judge has his hand in apples pockets.
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Wasn't a judge or even in east texas. The International Trade Commission ruled on it, but HTC has already appealed it.
Patents are getting out of hand...you can patent anything and everything, and its becoming a hinderance on development of new technologies. Sad really.
marlin29311 said:
Patents are getting out of hand...you can patent anything and everything, and its becoming a hinderance on development of new technologies. Sad really.
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Yea the worst part of all is companies like *cough* Apple patenting things are are pretty much the concept or idea of a small company and call it their own. The small company doesn't have the means to fend for itself.... Sad really...
I have Thunderbolt and I love it, but lets be honest... There were no phones that offered the iPhone user experience before iPhone. Everyone really came just after trying to ride the wave and a lot of things just got well lets say "borrowed".
No hard feelings, it's the simple truth wether we liked it or not.
milan03 said:
I have Thunderbolt and I love it, but lets be honest... There were no phones that offered the iPhone user experience before iPhone. Everyone really came just after trying to ride the wave and a lot of things just got well lets say "borrowed".
No hard feelings, it's the simple truth wether we liked it or not.
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Everyone borrows from everyone. Always do and always will. Apple is just the least likely one to admit they do (which they do and always have [just google xerox gui os apple])
All it means is HTC will have to make payments to Apple. No doomsday stuff.
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Wasn't a judge or even in east texas. The International Trade Commission ruled on it, but HTC has already appealed it.
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ITC Judge Rules in Favor of Apple in HTC Patent Case
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oh ok! sorry i must have missed that.
well........
milan03 said:
I have Thunderbolt and I love it, but lets be honest... There were no phones that offered the iPhone user experience before iPhone. Everyone really came just after trying to ride the wave and a lot of things just got well lets say "borrowed".
No hard feelings, it's the simple truth wether we liked it or not.
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As someone else said, everybody copies everybody else.......
Some fact to clear things up.
The first touchscreen phone was the IBM Simon, launched in 1992. During this decade the popular iPaq (not made by Apple by the way) was launched with touchscreens and optional phone attachments. In 2002, HTC, the leader in touchscreen phones, launched the the HTC Wallaby aka XDA (The first mass release touchscreen mobile phone). Later, the iPhone and makers of phones like the Nexus One launched their first touchscreen phone.
And, I don't remember where I got the following, but, it is absolutely true:
"We just couldn’t help but take a few minutes to point out some of the interesting announcements from Apple’s WWDC today. They brought forth iOS5 (well not until Fall), which basically introduced long-time Android feature after long-time Android feature – something we are finding to be hilarious. While I’ll try to refrain from tossing out too many little jabs since so many of the people in this world lack a sense of humor on the Apple vs. Android subject (“why you so bitter!?” -Twitter), I’ll just say that this marks a pretty important day for Android. It’s now clear that Android has moved well beyond Apple on the innovation scale when it comes to mobile software. For a company that continues to stand on stage and put up twisted statistics, one that claims to have invented everything, and one that takes cheap shots at every other company in the industry even while the rest of them have moved on, we couldn’t help but giggle a little.
With the introduction of notifications, OTA updates, tabbed browsing, cloud services, a mobile IM program, and the ability to activate a device without having to connect to a PC, the roars from the WWDC crowd could be felt across the interwebs. We can’t fault iOS fans for cheering today – after all, they should have been enjoying all of these features for years now. What we’ll do though, is remind them that swiping, notifying, tabbing, clouding and customizing became the norm if your phone ran on a green powered mobile OS years ago."
Google is buying Motorola!!!! OMG! What an excellent acquisition.
CNN reports...no link available yet...Google will pay 12.5 billion for Motorola Mobility. I can't think of a better thing for them to do. Think of the excellent phones Google will put out.
http://www.businessinsider.com/breaking-google-buying-motorola-mobility-for-125-billion-2011-8
Nuts, you beat me to it.
Betting for a Nexus X, and a ton of patents to be used against Apple.
Excellent news indeed!
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/supercharging-android-google-to-acquire.html
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Betting for a Nexus X, and a ton of patents to be used against Apple.
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Yup...They bought Motorola for the patents and probably will allow other manufacturers to use the patents without fear of reproach.
I don't think they did this to make phones...They did this to keep android from dying in court.
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Yup...They bought Motorola for the patents and probably will allow other manufacturers to use the patents without fear of reproach.
I don't think they did this to make phones...They did this to keep android from dying in court.
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Probably, but it also probably means that they'll be making their own Nexus range from now on.
Either way, this is a good move on their part I think. As long as they don't suddenly start restricting the way other companies use Android.
Awesome and total unexpected news!
Wondering what this will mean for the nexus line and the [email protected] project.
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Awesome and total unexpected news!
Wondering what this will mean for the nexus line and the [email protected] project.
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I see it as a positive for the Nexus line. I think Motorola has aslways had decent and sturdy hardware. A Nexus based on the Atrix or upcoming Bionic would be awesome. Even the Photon is an excellent candidate. With Google's vanilla Android onboard, these phones would shine.
Death to blur, please! Awesome IP patents with Moto. Motorola is a strong company in the patent war.
Although I haven't liked a Motorola device in a long time. I may have to look again this shopping season.
It appears that Google intends to run Motorola Mobility as a separate company. In other words, they probably bought them solely for the patents and their value in the on-going patent-battle circus. Motorola Mobility has like 20,000 patents, including significant ones in 2G, 3G, 4G, H.264, MPEG-4, 802.11, bluetooth, and a ton of other stuff. This may give them more of an upper-hand in patent battles, which they will hopefully use to stalemate the patent battles, rather than to stifle other innovators.
But otherwise their statements seem to indicate that MM will continue to be mostly what it is now, and that they won't try to unduly influence them on Android much more than they would any other handest manufacturer.
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It appears that Google intends to run Motorola Mobility as a separate company. In other words, they probably bought them solely for the patents and their value in the on-going patent-battle circus. Motorola Mobility has like 20,000 patents, including significant ones in 2G, 3G, 4G, H.264, MPEG-4, 802.11, bluetooth, and a ton of other stuff. This may give them more of an upper-hand in patent battles, which they will hopefully use to stalemate the patent battles, rather than to stifle other innovators.
But otherwise their statements seem to indicate that MM will continue to be mostly what it is now, and that they won't try to unduly influence them on Android much more than they would any other handest manufacturer.
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This I think is the main reason...
TheYar said:
It appears that Google intends to run Motorola Mobility as a separate company. In other words, they probably bought them solely for the patents and their value in the on-going patent-battle circus. Motorola Mobility has like 20,000 patents, including significant ones in 2G, 3G, 4G, H.264, MPEG-4, 802.11, bluetooth, and a ton of other stuff. This may give them more of an upper-hand in patent battles, which they will hopefully use to stalemate the patent battles, rather than to stifle other innovators.
But otherwise their statements seem to indicate that MM will continue to be mostly what it is now, and that they won't try to unduly influence them on Android much more than they would any other handest manufacturer.
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All I care about of this whole deal is what hardware the future Nexus will be. I'd love to see a Nexus based on the Droid 3 or Atrix. I also like it because it strengthens Google's market position.
This is definitely a good move for Android as a whole but I hope that Moto doesn't make the next Nexus, I really despise their hardware, looks like crap IMO. The Nexus S and the N1 both looked cool to me and the SAMOLED screens are a must. Can't wait to see what happens after ICS is released and what Motorola has planned for their future handsets.
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This is definitely a good move for Android as a whole but I hope that Moto doesn't make the next Nexus, I really despise their hardware, looks like crap IMO. The Nexus S and the N1 both looked cool to me and the SAMOLED screens are a must. Can't wait to see what happens after ICS is released and what Motorola has planned for their future handsets.
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look at it this way: Once Motorola starts making the new Nexus, we'll probably get open bootloaders from Moto for a change
(Which is the main reason I steered clear of the Droid, as the HTC Desire was easier to unlock)
I can also only praise Google for that move, as I was seeing a lot of very dark clouds appearing over the horizon for Android, if you take the ****-flinging between Samsung & Apple as an example.
The new phone is gonna be called Googorola X. It will feature the ability to take pictures through solid walls and Sync your brainwave with that hottie across the bar.
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look at it this way: Once Motorola starts making the new Nexus, we'll probably get open bootloaders from Moto for a change
(Which is the main reason I steered clear of the Droid, as the HTC Desire was easier to unlock)
I can also only praise Google for that move, as I was seeing a lot of very dark clouds appearing over the horizon for Android, if you take the ****-flinging between Samsung & Apple as an example.
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That is exactly what I say too. And they will be vanilla. None of that awful Blur junk.
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Ewww...virtual crabs!
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It'd be a terminal infection
Don't be too excited. Read CNN again.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile....phones/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories
I personally don't think Google will be able to expand MM's niche in smart phone market with this deal, so they're just wasting billions trying not to lose even more in courts. The smartphone market is pretty much split by apple, samsung, and htc. MM is a dead horse.
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I love the sound of this hopefully motoblur is a thing of the past. I've always been with HTC but if they make an kicka&# phone I may just ship.
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breaking news,top news now
http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-steve-kondik-2011-8
Wow....very interesting. What will this mean for our phones? Only good things I hope!
google bought motorola mobility
samsung hired kondik
what's next-xda bought by apple
The planets and stars appear to be aligning properly.
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Leverage is what this hire was about in my opinion.
Android os after all is a linux based os. Open source. Samsung has a significant market share in the world of Android phones and tablets and will work to protect that share.
Just my thoughts...
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Facebook hired geohot, the guy who jailbroke the iphone and hacked playstation
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Given Samsungs previous support of Cyanogen this is probably good news. Since he announced that Cyanogen will remain a side project of his it means we won't see it by default on Samsung phones but it will mean that their phones will probably edge closer to something resembling Cyanogen and be great for those that never switch to community created roms.
With Google buying Motorola, Samsung knows they need to step up their game to compete against Googorola phones in the future, this will be part of that process.
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
AdamOutler said:
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
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No one could pay me enough to move back to Jersey.
I grew up there - never want to move back.
Speaking with my friend at Samsung he says they are super excited about the level of creatovity and out of the box thinking this will bring to the table. more end user stuff considered rather than plain point a to b successful operation
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Excited about this! The future of Samsung is looking good.
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AdamOutler said:
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
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Me, me, me. I miss real Cheese Steaks, real Pizza, The Shore,The Pine Barrens, The Jersey Devil, Under the Boardwalk.
Where we say wooder not whater.
And you guys that watch that show, it's nothing like living in Jersey.
Jersey is where my heart is.
You got it: Leverage - with a capital "L"
Corvette Dave said:
Leverage is what this hire was about in my opinion.
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The past few days have been pretty exciting.
Whatever reasons are being announced, for Samsungs hiring of Mr. Cyanogen, intimidating Google has to be a big one. Especially being that it is only 11 months since Google tried to shut down Cyanogen (http://bit.ly/obp8sD).
Also, everyone is now talking about Amazon's killer Android tablet (http://bit.ly/mUS5O0). I think all rumors but Amazon's Kindle shows they can do tablets, Amazon doesn't have the "just for nerds" label that scares some Android and maybe even iPad users away, and if Amazon sells the tablet for $250, a $50 loss for each tablet they sell, Amazon will become one of the biggest Android players.
Google's purchase of Motorola Mobile has been classified by some as a patent battle but others (http://bit.ly/mUS5O0) think there is more to it.
And Apple and Nokia seem to be joining in the patent battle (http://bit.ly/n2q0Oe).
Leverage may just be your thoughts CD, but I think they're on target. Though I agree with your concept, I'm pretty certain I don't have a clue about the details. The big boys are playing hardball and all I can do is watch.
http://brianshall.com/content/android-dead
Anyone read this ?
I don't know where to start but suffice to say that his facts are wrong not least the one saying no new android phone can compare to iphone. Pretty sure the quad core sgs3 can.
Also samsungs market share recently overtook apples yet he says apple is way ahead.
Most of the report is factually incorrect opinion not news.
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This is nothing more than opinion and partial facts/ incorrect facts. There is no doubt the iPhone/iPad sell better. There is also little argument that Android missed the mark with their tablets/tablet marketing. But in no way is Android dying.
I would counter this article with how long will iPhone users upgrade to the same exact device with the same non evolving software before they start to get bored? I couldn't bring myself to buy a 4 after my 3g because the device bored the hell out of me. I walked into the Apple store, picked up a 4 and said to myself why in the hell would I lock into two more years, they practically changed nothing.
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I think his numbers are wrong...
I will acknowledge that Android is suffering terribly from the fragmentation issue especially in the arena where consumers want an "appliance" that simply does what it does. I think enthusiasts and developers in the Android world have great fun with all the aspects of tinkering, it appeals to our intelligence that we can fix things, improve things and evolve. Most consumers are not interested in tinkering.
Lol, this is funny.
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I will acknowledge that Android is suffering terribly from the fragmentation issue especially in the arena where consumers want an "appliance" that simply does what it does. I think enthusiasts and developers in the Android world have great fun with all the aspects of tinkering, it appeals to our intelligence that we can fix things, improve things and evolve. Most consumers are not interested in tinkering.
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He hit the nail on the head. The iphone carries the user friendly market, as long as there are techies(men) and those who simply don't follow the crowd android will thrive. I do agree that Google should implement some kind of OS requirements, as many devices that could be running ICS are not, but to the previous comment of I walked in and said this really isn't any different than the 3g...that is pretty much it...apple will be apple, android is at least fresh in this perspective.
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According to Horace Dediu/Asymco, Apple is now taking 73% of the smartphone industry's profits, with Samsung capturing 26%.
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So, what he's saying is that Apple is screwing over the consumer almost 3 times more than the next largest company. Also, is this including the profits Apple gets from app sales, because none of the OEMs that make Android phones profit off of that.
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And that everyone includes Huwai and ZTE, LG and Sony, Motorola, Dell (sorta), HP (I think) and a host of other very large, once-capable companies.
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How do you forget HTC? They are probably the second or third largest seller behind Samsung and possibly Motorola.
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Nobody wants an Android tablet.
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The Kindle Fire is an Android Tablet, as is one of the B&N Nooks, guess no one buys those. The Galaxy Tab 2 7" also seems to be selling well the way it looks. There is an issue with tablets, but it's mainly a price issue, not features. Google and developers are working to solve the app issues.
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Almost no one has the latest version of Android.
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It's at 5% of the market and growing. With 300k new activations daily, that means at least 15k new ICS devices are joining the market every day. Now that OEMs are finishing up the ICS updates, and releasing their new phones/tablets with ICS, that is only going to grow over the next few months.
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The companies that most aggressively marketed the "Android" brand, particularly Motorola and HTC, are floundering. Samsung, you will notice, markets Samsung.
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Yeah, HTC bringing in $2.3 billion in revenue is floundering. Even with profits down, they still made nearly $200 million in profit for the 1st quarter. Given the success of the One series phones, that will probably go up this quarter. And Samsung markets phones for everything, and I'm pretty sure they mention Android for the Android devices.
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App developers continue to make far more money off iOS.
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Because iOS apps cost money, where the same app on Android is free. Android users will pay for apps if they're good, just that usually, there is a free alternative that is just as functional as the paid version.
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Google is *losing* money on Android.
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If they were loosing money so badly on Android, why does it continue to exist?
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The Oracle trial made clear that Android was designed for a small screen with a physical keyboard -- thus, not optimized for the touchscreen revolution.
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Working just fine on my 4.65" touchscreen here. I have more issues typing on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone than I have with any of my Android devices.
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I seriously doubt any Android device will rival iPhone 4S -- even by the time of the next iPhone.
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I would say the Galaxy Nexus equals the iPhone 4S, and the just announced SGSIII will be the equal of the next iPhone in terms of hardware. Software, it is an apples v. oranges comparison. However, I have seen comparison tests that show it is usually faster or easier to perform simple tasks on the Galaxy Nexus versus the iPhone.
imnuts said:
So, what he's saying is that Apple is screwing over the consumer almost 3 times more than the next largest company. Also, is this including the profits Apple gets from app sales, because none of the OEMs that make Android phones profit off of that.
How do you forget HTC? They are probably the second or third largest seller behind Samsung and possibly Motorola.
The Kindle Fire is an Android Tablet, as is one of the B&N Nooks, guess no one buys those. The Galaxy Tab 2 7" also seems to be selling well the way it looks. There is an issue with tablets, but it's mainly a price issue, not features. Google and developers are working to solve the app issues.
It's at 5% of the market and growing. With 300k new activations daily, that means at least 15k new ICS devices are joining the market every day. Now that OEMs are finishing up the ICS updates, and releasing their new phones/tablets with ICS, that is only going to grow over the next few months.
Yeah, HTC bringing in $2.3 billion in revenue is floundering. Even with profits down, they still made nearly $200 million in profit for the 1st quarter. Given the success of the One series phones, that will probably go up this quarter. And Samsung markets phones for everything, and I'm pretty sure they mention Android for the Android devices.
Because iOS apps cost money, where the same app on Android is free. Android users will pay for apps if they're good, just that usually, there is a free alternative that is just as functional as the paid version.
If they were loosing money so badly on Android, why does it continue to exist?
Working just fine on my 4.65" touchscreen here. I have more issues typing on the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone than I have with any of my Android devices.
I would say the Galaxy Nexus equals the iPhone 4S, and the just announced SGSIII will be the equal of the next iPhone in terms of hardware. Software, it is an apples v. oranges comparison. However, I have seen comparison tests that show it is usually faster or easier to perform simple tasks on the Galaxy Nexus versus the iPhone.
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Unless the next iphone gets larger there's only so much you can shoehorn into a smaller form factor in which case apple customers could start looking elsewhere but as it stands there are a few android phones that could beat iphone including the s3 and optimus lte2.
But if android were dead then samsung lg and htc would all be failing miserably and their not.
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natsuke said:
Lol, this is funny.
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Yep, very funny since he's comparing a SO with a phone (hardware vs. software? WTF)
BTW, that a phone is the most sold not mean that phone is the best, only mean that have better marketing. In many countries, iDevice = high social status (what a sh!t, it isn't?).
apple makes software modulated hardware but android makes hardware modulated software the difference is price n precession.......................... the apple is quite costly bt android is not much
apple is secure
android is open
android is flexible
apple is disposable
hell ya.............. android rockzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!
imnuts said:
So, what he's saying is that Apple is screwing over the consumer almost 3 times more than the next largest company. Also, is this including the profits Apple gets from app sales, because none of the OEMs that make Android phones profit off of that.
How do you forget HTC? They are probably the second or third largest seller behind Samsung and possibly Motorola.
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This is one of the more interesting questions. I do believe that Apple revenue of course includes the app sales. Does anybody know more about this point?
And what about HTC? Look here!
sunilkumar.maharana said:
apple makes software modulated hardware but android makes hardware modulated software the difference is price n precession.......................... the apple is quite costly bt android is not much
apple is secure
android is open
android is flexible
apple is disposable
hell ya.............. android rockzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!
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My opinion is that Android is more secure than iOS. It is open-source, so anyone can look at the code (most of it anyway), find issues, fix them, and then submit the fix for inclusion in the next update. There is also SEAndroid being worked on by the same group that does SELinux. Apple is closed source, so when a problem is found, you have to wait for Apple to fix it. You can't tell when the fix will come, or if it will even come. Nor do you have the option to include the fix yourself, as there is no way to patch it without the source to build from.
Isn't the iPhone security able to be easily bypassed by anyone, regardless of the phone being locked or not? Android seems to be the more secure platform for most things from what I've seen, but I'm not a security researcher, so anything is possible.
another idiot Apple fanboy writes a bunch on non-factual nonsense. truth is, he knows Android is killing Apple, and he can't accept it, so instead he puts Android down to make himself feel better about being an iPhone lover. it's a classic example of the most basic human psychology.
let him be a fanboy, and we'll enjoy our amazing platform in peace.
Bloodflame said:
another idiot Apple fanboy writes a bunch on non-factual nonsense. truth is, he knows Android is killing Apple, and he can't accept it, so instead he puts Android down to make himself feel better about being an iPhone lover. it's a classic example of the most basic human psychology.
let him be a fanboy, and we'll enjoy our amazing platform in peace.
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You said it m8
The funny thing about this...which kind of invalidates everything he says, is that Samsung is running Android. I don't think Samsung has a single phone out right now that isn't Android.
"No one wants an Android tablet" No, it's just that the iPad has a name behind it. If not for that name, it'd be one of the worst selling pads on the market.
I think when the general population talk about the IPHONE they don't think of iOS but the Form factor of the phone. I also think that the general non techie population doesn't really know what Android REALLY is. This why every phone that's not an iPhone is considered a "Droid" to them.
Non techie people are seduced by the shiny and admittingly good design of the iPhone and as long as Facebook and Instagram works on it they are happy and they "love their iphone".
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Wow :what: where to start. The incorrect " facts " . The overt Apple fanboy flare. The way he should've started is by saying, " all the information you are about to given is conjecture and opinion " . Well I guess that's why some people buy, Apple products. Then there are those that think, research, and make the smart choice, Android.
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alunral said:
The funny thing about this...which kind of invalidates everything he says, is that Samsung is running Android. I don't think Samsung has a single phone out right now that isn't Android.
"No one wants an Android tablet" No, it's just that the iPad has a name behind it. If not for that name, it'd be one of the worst selling pads on the market.
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Its not that ipad has a name for itself, its that apple had a name for itself a long time ago. When the iPod came out it was a big hit. It then evolved into the iPod touch, which was alright for a while. Then they made the iPhone. Everyone was already hooked on apples products, thus not giveing android too much of a chance. Except for those who want something different, so they went and got an android. Slowly people are going to leave the iPhone cause they are going to get bored of the same old SH*T. Basicly the iPod is apples reputation. The ios is boring and kinda plain.
Who cares about what sells better? How about what performs better? And I know I would much rather be able to do whatever the hell I want with the phone like customizing, and tweaking the phone to run faster, and not having to pay for everything. And you can't even do anything on the computer without a jailbreak or being annoyingly restricted to iTunes!
IPhone sucks! ANDROID RULES!!!
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This is quite simple to respond to. IPhone is for mainstream users, every friend of mine says iPhone is the best phone until I show them some android devices. We live in a world where all the crap which has an apple on the back is better by the eyes of people that don't even know what the market has to offer.
Another thing is, android is still growing, and iOS has much has it keep evolving, I believe it's pretty much that: a phone with the homescreen full of icons and with no customizing whatsoever; a phone that in my opinion gives a terrible user experience.
I'm no fan of Samsung devices but it's true they're doing a great job on expanding android.
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