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Could the Captivate be the first SGS to get Froyo?

Well, I ran across this little tibit in my relentless search for more information on the timeline for Froyo on this line...
Earlier, I posted a thread about another rumor I found on the net indicating AT&T & T-Mobile would get Froyo by mid-October. Reading between the lines of these two tibits, and considering the impending loss of exclusivity of the iPhone for AT&T, we might just get Froyo even before the I9000. I know, that doesn't make sense when you consider how many builds ahead the I9000 appears to be over Cappy, but who knows if that really is the case. Moreover, AT&T really needs this phone to work right as it is, at the present time, their best Android offering. Sure would be nice if this ends up being the case.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/10/06/samsung-galaxy-s-update-on-android-2-2-froyo-release-date/
P.S. 5 minutes remaining on my download of Cog 2.2 Beta 4!!!

This is release in the UK how does that indicate that it will be around the same time in the US. There is no mention of US companies in that article.

It looks like the vibrant is getting it this morning according to samsungs twitter
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swayze1 said:
It looks like the vibrant is getting it this morning according to samsungs twitter
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NO! Vibrant JI6 is a 2.1 (confirmed in forum posts) - always has been. A version number for one phone means nothing to another phone. It is really just a date stamp.

sparker366 said:
This is release in the UK how does that indicate that it will be around the same time in the US. There is no mention of US companies in that article.
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Amen, we get it when we get it. No need to start rumors all over again.

So supposedly we aren't getting the official 2.2 update this year.

Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant

Who is the "we" you are referring too? I guess you are a canadian fascinate owner as that is the only model that was stated for a 2011 update to 2.2.
Seriously, you are speculating on an article that is all speculation itself and creating FUD for others.

Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?

jel7 said:
Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
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Go to Twitter.com/GalaxySSupport and look at how many times they specifically say the Captivate will have Froyo by the end of the year.

From what I understand, it's ATT, not Samsung causing any delay. In any event, I'm fine with 2.1...I don't see the huge features brought by 2.2 anyway

At this point we may as well just wait for someone to cook some gingerbread.

Froyo
According to Samsung Galaxy S Support, we should have 2.2 by the end of this year.

My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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Tbh I rarely use flash for anything except maybe a few engadget videos. But I do use my phone more than anything now.
Sent from my Captivate

I don't understand why you're so butt-hurt. Just flash one of the 2.2 ROMs, there are plenty to choose from and they all make the phone experience 100x better.

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Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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angry birds...

well isnt this just dandy.... :/

jager420 said:
angry birds...
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You can play angry birds now on 2.1.

take this with a load of salt..
from samsungmobileus twitter on Nov 11th...."we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year. "
here is the post http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/status/2818439500533760

Seriously? Another thread speculating on the froyo release date? You said it yourself... there's a whole development section that has plenty of froyo for you. If you just wanted to use the software your carrier provides, you should have gotten an iphone.

pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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I also work at AT&T and i've heard no such date as to when the official 2.2 roll out is going to happen.

yeah if you here a date it is unofficial and subject to change at any moment, usually it will get delayed not pushed up. the att reps i have talked to are kept in the dark until the release day in most cases. the truth is that att is quite lazy.
back in september when we all thought a froyo release was coming soon i spoke to a samsung engineer who quoted "we are working on the froyo update around the clock" and "the wait should not be unusually long" well the lanuage hes used of "working around the clock" put my expectations around november. now who knows.

veive said:
Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Even when the official 2.2 update comes out, I honestly don't see myself, or a lot of the xda community switching over to it. With DG doing great work on the Cog builds and a lot of people following in his footsteps to provide us new roms, the official Samsung and ATT approved updates will always be just mediocre at best.

nkrick said:
Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Same here...which is why I am seriously looking at this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836243..If for some reason the official version doesn't come out by Thanksgiving...I'll most likely root it and flash the latest Cog rom out at that time.
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Must look! Just got off phone with t-mobile executive care

I just got off the phone with a very nice lady from t-mobile executive care and she told me that the official update just got to them last Wednesday and after hearing about all my problems she offered me a G2x with the software update on it and she said it would be here by the end of the week. So T-mobile is rolling out the software update soon she told me and I was so shocked she would even tell me this information. A weird part though is she said she could do the multiple exchange for the G2? That was pretty weird haha

duno man... too many stories thus far

well
well i hope she was right because I am receiving the new g2x this week with the update

No one is going to believe you. The only thing you can do is post screens of the software version etc. once the phone arrives.

Which is really a shame, because after all of this hoopla, we still have no gingerbread kernel, no nvidia drivers, and no lg camera application...and if what we have right now ends up being the official gingerbread update for our phone from t-mobile, then we really don't have much more to hope for.

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/t-mo...provements-retail-stores-receiving-inventory/

Lets hope that she is right and the real update is going to be out. Hopefully this leak isn't another reason to stall it. Am I the only one who thinks the LG camera app was a culprit here? you cant advertise a phone with 1080p recording then remove it in an update because you couldn't get it to work anymore.

khaos12 said:
Lets hope that she is right and the real update is going to be out. Hopefully this leak isn't another reason to stall it. Am I the only one who thinks the LG camera app was a culprit here? you cant advertise a phone with 1080p recording then remove it in an update because you couldn't get it to work anymore.
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It just seems unlikely to me, if LG put out an update that does NOT include their very own camera application, that T-mobile will include the LG camera. And the overall attitude I'm getting for various representatives at T-mobile is that of "take it or leave it." I'm getting the feeling that they are already taking a defensive stance and we pretty much have the best that we're going to get out of them.
We are on our own.

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well if you dont believe it dosen't bother me at all because i know what she told me and when t-mobile sends me the official gb update on the replacement i will upload pics and vids for everybody to see because many people think its still far and i just wanted to share the info i got

anybody notice that in the pic on this page http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/t-mo...en-shot-2011-07-25-at-4-18-29-pmwtmk0000wtmk/ it say's "the other cool stuff is still there" and it mentions 1080p video recording?
so, maybe, v21e is not "official"?

randyp007 said:
well if you dont believe it dosen't bother me at all because i know what she told me and when t-mobile sends me the official gb update on the replacement i will upload pics and vids for everybody to see because many people think its still far and i just wanted to share the info i got
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I believe you...I just say, "who cares" about an official T-mobile update? We already have the update. And unless something miraculous happened at T-mobile over the past 5 days, then this "official" update is going to be the same that we have...do you think they re-wrote LG's code? They got sent the update for testing...if they are releasing it 5 days later, then it's a pretty good bet that there were no changes to the test update.
Of course, I've been wrong about plenty in my life. But my prediction: "official update" will be the same garbage that the "unofficial" (which was "officially" released by LG already) is, with no LG camera, and no GB kernel.

mmapcpro said:
with no LG camera, .
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then that would be false advertising because the specs are listed as 1080p video recording. or does the updated gb record in 1080p? haven't tested yet.

Yeh, I just saw that picture that was linked above my post, and I noticed the 1080 video recording spec listed. I certainly hope that I'm wrong...because I love that LG camera so much more than the aosp version. They are just not even in the same league. But even more important than the camera, would be an updated kernel. Ahhh, what a pleasant fiction.

mmapcpro said:
Yeh, I just saw that picture that was linked above my post, and I noticed the 1080 video recording spec listed. I certainly hope that I'm wrong...because I love that LG camera so much more than the aosp version. They are just not even in the same league. But even more important than the camera, would be an updated kernel. Ahhh, what a pleasant fiction.
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you think updated kernel will fix the A2DP issues with some BT?
PS: i just got to ask

cenwesi said:
you think updated kernel will fix the A2DP issues with some BT?
PS: i just got to ask
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Who knows...I could have sworn I read a dev post once that even with a new kernel, they would still be handcuffed without Nvidia making their drivers available. But perhaps it would be another little extension to the bridge. For instance, Nvidia might be more willing to make drivers for a GB kernel available AFTER we are actually supposed to have it. Remember, technically, we still don't have gingerbread on our g2x, so there's really no reason for them to do any extra work on that end. But I'm entering an area that I know little about, and the more I type, the more unfounded opinion I'm spewing.

mmapcpro said:
Which is really a shame, because after all of this hoopla, we still have no gingerbread kernel, no nvidia drivers, and no lg camera application...and if what we have right now ends up being the official gingerbread update for our phone from t-mobile, then we really don't have much more to hope for.
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so the camera app is that big of a deal? really?

Suprah said:
so the camera app is that big of a deal? really?
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Yes, it is! Really!

Pecata said:
Yes, it is! Really!
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I 2nd this. Why introduce a feature and then downgrade? The LG camera is definitely much more aesthetically pleasing and it has more functions than stock camera.
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mmapcpro said:
Who knows...I could have sworn I read a dev post once that even with a new kernel, they would still be handcuffed without Nvidia making their drivers available...
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The Atrix has GB and A2DP works (haven't seen any complaints that it doesn't) in addition to it being 2.3.4...so someone over at Nvidia kicked it into high gear and released A2DP drivers and did something to get over the lack of NEON so that they could get FFC video via Gtalk to work. I would be very disappointed if LG didn't incorporate these changes into their GB ROM but if the ROM they "released" is the ROM we're getting...

crazythunder said:
then that would be false advertising because the specs are listed as 1080p video recording. or does the updated gb record in 1080p? haven't tested yet.
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YOu mean false advertising like the time they posted on their website and claimed the G2X was quad band and worked on at&t and then when the phone was released no one could get it to work.
Ya i wouldn't put it past them to say they are including 1080p in the update only to later say "sorry mistake"

tmobile: a new model of the g2x?

So im on the phone with cs right now, doing a battery exchange, and the rep tells me if i had wanted to exchange my phone, i would get a new model that would be improved? odd news... is it just the rep spitting random nonsense?
my current one is the lg-p999dw

You picked the new model?
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You will get one with 2.3.3 and July baseband - period!
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sadly no, my idiot rep transfered me to the freakin htc line, which made no sense whatsoever even though i reminded her that the g2x was made by lg.... wowtmobilefail.

I just got an exchange that is apparently a refurb (per LG update I have the DMP series). My previous 2 G2x's were new. I was worried that I would get a lemon. My refurb is PERFECT.

you mean dwp?

He probably meant the 2.3.3 OS and new baseband. The hardware is going to be the same.
Remember, cs reps are used to dealing with clueless idiots who legitimately do not know the difference between hardware and software.
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I still haven't updated to the new baseband. But if TMO came out with a new model for the G2x because the original "were junk" then they'd have a big issue on their hands.
My G2x is fantastic but I would want a piece of the action.
Sadly (or realistically) the rep doesn't know. They hear "updated G2x" and process "new G2x".
Remember, to most people at Tmobile, it is just a job. Most of them aren't phone enthusiasts like us nerds.

player911 said:
Sadly (or realistically) the rep doesn't know. They hear "updated G2x" and process "new G2x".
Remember, to most people at Tmobile, it is just a job. Most of them aren't phone enthusiasts like us nerds.
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too true...; is it possible that lg has fixed the screen bleeds? ive heard rumors that they switched screen providers or something... w/e, im planning to get a replacement anyway, my phone overheats to 104f after a 2 min phone call...

i received my "New" one yesterday. May 20 build date. Afraid to open it LOL.

T-Mobile reps don't know what they're talking about
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ickster said:
i received my "New" one yesterday. May 20 build date. Afraid to open it LOL.
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duuude that realllllllllly sucks.

I work at LG in the service division. There is no new P999. Basically we just reflashed all of our current stock. It was a huge pain. I'm not sure about switching LCD's, but we did switch front case (including window) manufacturers. I'm not sure if it was because of the bleeding, but to be honest, I still see a little bit of bleeding in mine and I'm pretty sure I have the front case from the new manufacturer.

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I work at LG in the service division. There is no new P999. Basically we just reflashed all of our current stock. It was a huge pain. I'm not sure about switching LCD's, but we did switch front case (including window) manufacturers. I'm not sure if it was because of the bleeding, but to be honest, I still see a little bit of bleeding in mine and I'm pretty sure I have the front case from the new manufacturer.
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well i just got mine today from tmobiles customer service. i did notice a little bit of bleeding but not much at all and i dont see what the big deal is. it doesnt look bad at all and i can only see it if its completely dark in the room and i got the brightness up all the way and it has a black image or using the draw app in the market. so far no reboots for me. i think i got the newer device since i got gingerbread pre installed when i got the phone. i just wish it had the green on the 4g icon and cell service part.
just got rid of the sensation 4g for this g2x and i gotta say it was the best move i ever done. g2x is so much faster then the sensation 4g its not even funny.

[Q] Supposedly another OTA coming?

hey guys although i havent find nothing online that said so but a seen a few people talking about it in threats and even a tmobile sales men told me that there suppost to be a another ota for the g2x. some people thinks its gonna be 2.3.4 and have the LG Camera in it?
im just wanted to pass this along
and i will appreciate no hateful comments against LG/Tmobile.
we have this phone and we just go from there

Well, we're getting ICS either way thanks to Cyanogen... But it would be nice if LG and T-Mobile still showed some love for our phones!

I kind of doubt we will see another OTA update anytime soon but if we do great.

T mobile is all about the Sensation and Galaxy S 2, and LG has had enough if this fiasco of a phone. Cyanogen is the only hope of this ever getting another update, of any flavor.
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i hope this is true since i don't root my phones
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i guess you guys are right!! i just cant understand when tmobile gave my friend from tmobile tech support a g2x with gingebread for test when the g2x came out!
it was 2.3.4 and their ota its 2.3.3 i talked to my friend today to see if he heard anything of another ota for the g2x. he said no he hasnt heard anything and pretty much they have forgotten or given up with the g2x.
my opinion on this is if this phone isnt going to be that much of a deal to companies. well i thing NVIDIA should release their drivers to the devs!!!
and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!

gypsy214 said:
and another thing this is suppost to be a GOOGLE phone! why google aint doing nothing!
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Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!

New rule: Anyone who posts a LMGTFY link gets their fingers chewed off by drunken chimpanzees.

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omarsalmin said:
Look here to find your answer: http://tinyurl.com/3pshom4!!!
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and you have to be a jerk to a person that is just asking a question why.
maybe i should google that too.
The guy makes good points and is upset he threw his money away you have to add to that by being a jerk?

If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)

well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.

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well that would be nice to see 2.3.4 at least.. maybe they can make the damn 4g icon and signal bars green like gingerbread is suppose to be. then give us the lg cam back then hopefully give us gtalk with video chat.. since skype hates tegra 2's and wont support are phones.. i shouldnt have to root my phone to get things that should just work with a stock rom.
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I guess you're right
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
If the "OTA" is going to be 2.3.4, it's going to be outdated. We've been on 2.3.5<-- for almost 2 months now. (Well, with CM7, EB, Faux123, MIUI, etc.)
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Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.

jboxer said:
Nexus One just updated today via OTA to 2.3.6. Hopefully LG skips a few versions and catches up if they issue another update.
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thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF

gypsy214 said:
thats what im saying!!! Nexus One or Nexus S are google phones thats why they get updates first but the g2x its a google phone too! so WTF
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It's not a google phone.
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It's not a google phone.
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Correct, it's just with google on the back of the phone like the G2. Only Google phones made are the nexus line.

Hell will freeze over before this phone gets another official update. If you wont root and update it yourself but are savvy enough to use xda you have no one to blame but yourself.
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The difference is that the devices in the Google Nexus line have their roms developed by Google engineers. Other devices must rely on the respective manufacturer to update them. On the Nexus line Google also pushes out the OTA themselves and never takes them down like T-Mobile did for the G2X. That was lame. Why not keep the OTA on your servers forever like Google does. Plus Google lets anyone get the OTA on any carrier. TMO limited it to people connected to their network (not even MVNOs) only. Since Google does their testing of new versions of Android on their own Nexus line, new roms get pushed out pretty darn fast. Soon, alas, they are going to declare the venerable Nexus One end of life (EOL) and stop providing roms for it. It might get ICS but we'll have to wait and see.
But the G2X is a great phone and the differences between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 are so minimal there is nothing really to be upset about. No O2X worldwide has even gotten any official versions of GB yet, so you can be thankful, for once, that the US is a litigious society and the class action forced LG to release GB before they planned to. But now that they did, any future versions are questionable. LG doesn't have a good record of updating phones very often or very quickly.

i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs

s10shane said:
i almost got to the point where i was gonna trade my g2x for a nexus s just because its a google phone and i know it will always be updated fast. but its hard to down grade from the g2xs nice specs
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I'd much rather keep my G2X, even if it was still on 2.2, rather than trade for a Nexus S. Keep your G2X.