Now that we have an unlocked bootloader, we can get some real work done.
We already have a "custom" kernel for AOSP ROMs (ie. SuperOSR) that has an added CPU governor and tweaks to get it to boot. However, I personally prefer Sense ROMs and some of the apps that HTC include.
I've tried getting a kernel to compile myself, but the source from htcdev.com doesn't compile for me, and when I use SuperOSR source, I either get loads of glitches on Sense ROMs, or it just doesn't boot after I try modding the CPU values.
So I'd like to politely request if someone could possibly compile a kernel that works with stock Sense ROMs with some added features (a few examples of possible features here, and maybe some basic additions like a slight CPU overclock [this is where my compiles refused to boot], swap, BFS CPU scheduler, additional I/O schedulers, and any other performance-enhancing tweaks).
Developments like this would guarantee to get us out of the Legacy & Low Activity Devices section and back onto the main board
ooh i wish to have developments on chacha, im a flasholic ..every couples of hours i check the threads if there is somthing new, the development is so slow due to limited numbers of developers that have chacha that are working on it and realy big thanks and respect of those developers for their efforts,i wish if i was a developer to help .hmm can we seek for other phones developers(as sensation or cyanogenmod) to have their help and support in developing kernals and custom roms or tweaks for the little chacha ? is it difficult to ask help ? i can join the team as beta testers
Kernel source available
Kernel source for additional variants of HTC Desire HD, ChaCha, Flyer, Wildfire S, EVO 4G+ and more now available at: http://t.co/oWFY7ieb
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Kernel source for additional variants of HTC Desire HD, ChaCha, Flyer, Wildfire S, EVO 4G+ and more now available at: http://t.co/oWFY7ieb
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Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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Now that we have an unlocked bootloader, we can get some real work done.
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Real work started way before that imho
first kernel releases
adlx.xda said:
Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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same for me here...
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Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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Yep, it's the same as the original. One diff, the naming convention. )
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Yep, it's the same as the original. One diff, the naming convention. )
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there are some diffs. Not sure how significant though...
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Guy's, Just to let everyone Know the Legend / Slide / Aria ( aka Liberty ) all use the same Kernel source... Includes a Very good ReadMe, but not sure about building the wifi Module's
http://developer.htc.com/
http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/legend_13be9c9c.tar.bz2
Guy's, Just to let everyone Know the Legend / Slide / Aria ( aka Liberty ) all use the same Kernel source...
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I think your direct link might be the wrong one if that's so... the URL you included was the one for the Tattoo/Click, and I think you meant the Legend one?
(I'm a new user, so I apparently can't include the actual link )
Thanks for the pointer.
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I think your direct link might be the wrong one if that's so... the URL you included was the one for the Tattoo/Click, and I think you meant the Legend one?
(I'm a new user, so I apparently can't include the actual link )
Thanks for the pointer.
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Thank you, fixed the link..
Heres the direct link to the Aria Kernel
Just read the article on HTC releasing source codes for aria kernel...
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/11/droid-incredibles-and-evo-4gs-2-2-source-code-released-by-htc/
For us Android noobz...what does suggest/mean?? Smoother bugless ROM cooking? Better and cleaner 2.2 build?
maybe a possible OC? i read several places they needed the kernel to customize it? i'm not sure.
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Just read the article on HTC releasing source codes for aria kernel...
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/11/droid-incredibles-and-evo-4gs-2-2-source-code-released-by-htc/
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The aria kernel in the stock 2.1 Rom is very old so it may not be that much use to CM-6 Liberty
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Hey guys,
I am in the process of trying to build a custom kernel for the incredible S, but as it happens HTC have only released sources for the Froyo version, not the Gingerbread version
In my quests to find the changes need to upgrade this kernel to run on 2.3, I am building a kernel for the Saga,as the Desire S was released with 2.3 the sources should be as well.
Anyway, long story short. I have a custom kernel for the saga, with an overclock available and it is quite easy to port all the other features I have added to my kernel without the video / camera problem (assuming this is the 2.3 source, which it looks like it should be), and I see you don't have any custom kernels, is anyone interested in testing?
hi mate, im developin a custom kernel as we speak but yh wudnt mind testing urs... u use the saga 2.6.35 kernel source code?
Sorry didnt realise someone was already on it. Yeah I am using it cause I think it has the changes I need in the board files, and I accidently overclocked it by editing the wrong files. If.you want I can speak to you about what changes you wanna make so you can start devving it on your own
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lmao wat u sayin sorry for this forumn needs all the attention it can get. wel am already workin on one but why dont u sort that one and ill test it for u am sure itl help u when the incredible s has released.
Iv played with the desire the dhd and ds.....hows the dhd compared to incredile?
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Hey guys,
I am in the process of trying to build a custom kernel for the incredible S, but as it happens HTC have only released sources for the Froyo version, not the Gingerbread version
In my quests to find the changes need to upgrade this kernel to run on 2.3, I am building a kernel for the Saga,as the Desire S was released with 2.3 the sources should be as well.
Anyway, long story short. I have a custom kernel for the saga, with an overclock available and it is quite easy to port all the other features I have added to my kernel without the video / camera problem (assuming this is the 2.3 source, which it looks like it should be), and I see you don't have any custom kernels, is anyone interested in testing?
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Well done dude !!! I've been following your quest for root and S-OFF on the IS forum, no one here is trying for S-OFF. Our best bet is someone like you porting an IS or Sensation exploit. I'm S-On so i can't test. But since the saga (DS) and IS have the same processor, i'm assuming this goes up to 1.8 Ghz too. Correct me if i'm wrong.
When will be a download link i will test the kernel.
i was wondering if it will work with a Desire kernel? can i try a desire kernel or is a bad ideea?
i miss cifs
trying a desire kernel is a very bad idea mihaibuda u must wait for a desire s kernel
send you a PM dude
OK Doesn anyone know how to flash a zImage? If not, if someone sends me a boot.img from the stock Desire S ROM I can pack it up into an update zip
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OK Doesn anyone know how to flash a zImage? If not, if someone sends me a boot.img from the stock Desire S ROM I can pack it up into an update zip
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a boot.img is in this post
[BOOT] Root for S-Off with unsecured Boot Image
regards
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[...] HTC have only released sources for the Froyo version, not the Gingerbread version
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It is a GPL violation then ... ?
Anyway, good to see that custom kernels are coming
GPL actually says that the source code has to bereleased within reasonable time...what that time is noone knows...
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..,is anyone interested in testing?
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yes
10char
Bump ...?
Lost prophet are you still in for another custom kernel ?
Sign me up!
Very curious about this...so we know s-off is coming for sure, whether alpharev or HTC release it first - it's coming, but we don't know when HTC will release the kernel source code. Even though they are required under the GPL guidelines to do so, they still haven't even released the source for the Evo4g (if I remember right). So for roms that require a different kernel, such as MIUI or CM, where does the lack of kernel source code leave us? I would guess that the devs would need to port a kernel from the closest device they have a working kernel for, or compile one from scratch, until they have the actual source to modify? Am I on the right track here? Anyone care to clarify?
Thanks for any info!
No one can add anything here?
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can you get the kernel off your own phone if it is radio s-off, like you can for hboot img and the like? if so i think that would be the most viable option.. but that is a dumb notion of going seens as if that was how it was done, it would be widespread and known... so doubting its going to be anything easy like that for kernel source
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Very curious about this...so we know s-off is coming for sure, whether alpharev or HTC release it first - it's coming, but we don't know when HTC will release the kernel source code. Even though they are required under the GPL guidelines to do so, they still haven't even released the source for the Evo4g (if I remember right). So for roms that require a different kernel, such as MIUI or CM, where does the lack of kernel source code leave us? I would guess that the devs would need to port a kernel from the closest device they have a working kernel for, or compile one from scratch, until they have the actual source to modify? Am I on the right track here? Anyone care to clarify?
Thanks for any info!
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What were you smoking? The evo4g kernel was released long time ago. A number of versions for different android builds were released in fact.
http://developer.htc.com/
Ok? I've never had an Evo so I don't follow development on it, regardless, that's far from the point of this thread.
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Ok? I've never had an Evo so I don't follow development on it, regardless, that's far from the point of this thread.
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Actually what tsekh501 said is right on key with this thread. It means HTC WILL release the kernel source,,,,in time.
Patience is a virtue.
Apparently you didn't read my op. Everyone knows they will release it in time, because they are required to, but my question was - until it's released, what's the likelihood of seeing CM or MIUI? Would it require a substantial amount of more dev work without the source code?
I'm not being impatient, I just want to how the lack of source code impacts development and asking out of shear curiosity, guess I didn't phrase my question right.
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-rel...nsation-sensation-xl-rhyme-and-more-20111214/
Can't wait to see what the community can cook up with this new information. Should make our roms/kernels even faster than they already are!
Great, but sadly it's probably not source code from 3.3.5 .
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i am working on a stock 1.50.531.1 rooted + busybox and other fun stuff
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i am working on a stock 1.50.531.1 rooted + busybox and other fun stuff
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How's that coming along? I aquired a Sensation today, and am interested in a similar effort, or a ground-up AOSP. I checked the htcdev site and found multiple kernel tarballs with no clear indication of which one was for my device. I'll have to crack them open and hope there's some info in there. Still unclear on what non-AOSP source outside of the kernel I might need for an AOSP effort. May just pull down the CM source instead...
Mike doesn't make any sense 4 roms or any senseless roms does he? Thanks!!!
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No, he doesn't He fixes up stock roms to make them work better.
If you would have checked the dev section for a while mate youd already know the answer
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
PLEASE use the help thread instead of spamming the boards with basic question topics. I've seen far more threads started by you than anyone else recently. I also remember you being asked to use it/search function before too. Your questions will get answered there just the same.
Looking at his nickname, this thread and Thanks, I can't tell if he's really that stupid, or just making **it from all of us.
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Waiting. It could released.
See the Revolution Rom for Desire HD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
ARHD 6.33 based on org HTC RUU
ARHD 7.04 based on Sensation XL RUU (Ported Rom)
sssurfer said:
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
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I prefer the term zipmodder but this is basically correct
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sssurfer said:
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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Cyanogen would be an example, or using miui, etc.
I use arhd, mainly cause it gives a fairly stock style ROM with improvements.
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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The ones who build kernels, make smali tweaks and work with the AOSP source. IE the ones who actually do a bit of coding instead of using dsixsda kitchen to deodex RUU and root it then upload it as 'their' work...
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Bane doesn't make any rooms does he?
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Xda says mike1986 is a dev
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The ones who build kernels, make smali tweaks and work with the AOSP source. IE the ones who actually do a bit of coding instead of using dsixsda kitchen to deodex RUU and root it then upload it as 'their' work...
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people such as?... you didnt answer my question
how many devs does the sensation have? where are these source-building devs?
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people such as?... you didnt answer my question
how many devs does the sensation have? where are these source-building devs?
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m0narx - duh he is tweaks legend!!
j4n87 - another tweaker who started the leedroid tweaks thing
baadnewz - has done a collection of mods over the years, most famous is probably the camera mod for GB
memnoc - ported CDT Tools to sensation for his sense 4 roms
Vorbeth - got CM9 working device tree
Showp and faux - kernel developers
SebastianFM - kernel dev and got USB Host working
Frankly the list goes on but they all share one thing in common, they work with code and actually develop stuff rather than just push out kitchen made ROMs
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Jonny said:
m0narx - duh he is tweaks legend!!
j4n87 - another tweaker who started the leedroid tweaks thing
baadnewz - has done a collection of mods over the years, most famous is probably the camera mod for GB
memnoc - ported CDT Tools to sensation for his sense 4 roms
Vorbeth - got CM9 working device tree
Showp and faux - kernel developers
SebastianFM - kernel dev and got USB Host working
Frankly the list goes on but they all share one thing in common, they work with code and actually develop stuff rather than just push out kitchen made ROMs
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i thought being a dev meant building from source
as far as i know, HTC doesnt release source code, and some of those people you listed are sense-chefs. is it easier to port or to tweak?
do you think its easier to open a rom and tweak certain files than it is to simply compile from source and do nothing else?
if you open a zip, tweak certain files, then repackage the zip.. youre a chef?
but if you release your tweak as a separate tweak/mod youre a dev?
help me differentiate more, please. do you build your own roms from source and use your own tweaks/mods?
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i thought being a dev meant building from source
as far as i know, HTC doesnt release source code, and some of those people you listed are sense-chefs. is it easier to port or to tweak?
do you think its easier to open a rom and tweak certain files than it is to simply compile from source and do nothing else?
if you open a zip, tweak certain files, then repackage the zip.. youre a chef?
but if you release your tweak as a separate tweak/mod youre a dev?
help me differentiate more, please. do you build your own roms from source and use your own tweaks/mods?
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Building and editing source code is developer work so a lot of the true developers work on AOSP based stuff - like vorbeth, cyanogen + the rest of CM team and tripnraver for examples
Because of the very nature of kernel development the people who hack/edit kernels are pretty much all developers.
However with sense roms we can decompile the apks into either smali or pure java spource using apktool and virtuous ten studio. This means we can edit the htc code and create new stuff like the venom tweaks, cdt tools and leedroid tweaks which add more functionality into roms like apm and eqs. Those things require knowledge of developing or,'hacking' and thus make those responsible for creating those additional features developers.
Its definatly easier to port stuff than create the original version of tweaks - I know because im leading the project of porting the leedroid tweaks to the 3.33 base and its hard because much more code has been changed for this base than in previous ones but nowhere near as hard as creating the original code for the tweaks.
Some devs have their own rom like venom team but they are still devs because they are creating new features for that specific rom.
Chefs are people who cook roms without actually modifying the look or underlying code of the rom. Though of course if the rom is a port then said rom maker would probably be called a dev because it takes a lot of changing of files and using logcat to get a port running at stable functionality.
It requires more knowledge and is harder to download and compile source code than open up a rom or ruu, change a few things then reupload as a new rom.
I dont build roms from source (yet) mainly because im still reading and learning about it though fortunatly it is a lot easier for me to learn than most other people because I am a flash developer who developed code intensive flash actionscript themes for my old phone - samsung tocco lite and actionscript and java are both object orientated so I understand a fair bit of code - (also I like the Sense UI more than AOSP) but I have done a fair amount of apk smali hacks and ports.
I use a lot of my own work in my sense roms but then I also use others work like leedroid tweaks in my roms as well (with credits given ofcourse)
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Great explanation Jonny!
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now thats a reply thatll shut me up lol