Mike doesn't make any sense 4 roms or any senseless roms does he? Thanks!!!
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No, he doesn't He fixes up stock roms to make them work better.
If you would have checked the dev section for a while mate youd already know the answer
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
PLEASE use the help thread instead of spamming the boards with basic question topics. I've seen far more threads started by you than anyone else recently. I also remember you being asked to use it/search function before too. Your questions will get answered there just the same.
Looking at his nickname, this thread and Thanks, I can't tell if he's really that stupid, or just making **it from all of us.
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Waiting. It could released.
See the Revolution Rom for Desire HD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040
ARHD 6.33 based on org HTC RUU
ARHD 7.04 based on Sensation XL RUU (Ported Rom)
sssurfer said:
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
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I prefer the term zipmodder but this is basically correct
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sssurfer said:
He is 'chef' not 'dev' ...
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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Cyanogen would be an example, or using miui, etc.
I use arhd, mainly cause it gives a fairly stock style ROM with improvements.
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and who are the dev's for the sensation?
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The ones who build kernels, make smali tweaks and work with the AOSP source. IE the ones who actually do a bit of coding instead of using dsixsda kitchen to deodex RUU and root it then upload it as 'their' work...
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Bane doesn't make any rooms does he?
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Xda says mike1986 is a dev
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The ones who build kernels, make smali tweaks and work with the AOSP source. IE the ones who actually do a bit of coding instead of using dsixsda kitchen to deodex RUU and root it then upload it as 'their' work...
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people such as?... you didnt answer my question
how many devs does the sensation have? where are these source-building devs?
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people such as?... you didnt answer my question
how many devs does the sensation have? where are these source-building devs?
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m0narx - duh he is tweaks legend!!
j4n87 - another tweaker who started the leedroid tweaks thing
baadnewz - has done a collection of mods over the years, most famous is probably the camera mod for GB
memnoc - ported CDT Tools to sensation for his sense 4 roms
Vorbeth - got CM9 working device tree
Showp and faux - kernel developers
SebastianFM - kernel dev and got USB Host working
Frankly the list goes on but they all share one thing in common, they work with code and actually develop stuff rather than just push out kitchen made ROMs
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Jonny said:
m0narx - duh he is tweaks legend!!
j4n87 - another tweaker who started the leedroid tweaks thing
baadnewz - has done a collection of mods over the years, most famous is probably the camera mod for GB
memnoc - ported CDT Tools to sensation for his sense 4 roms
Vorbeth - got CM9 working device tree
Showp and faux - kernel developers
SebastianFM - kernel dev and got USB Host working
Frankly the list goes on but they all share one thing in common, they work with code and actually develop stuff rather than just push out kitchen made ROMs
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i thought being a dev meant building from source
as far as i know, HTC doesnt release source code, and some of those people you listed are sense-chefs. is it easier to port or to tweak?
do you think its easier to open a rom and tweak certain files than it is to simply compile from source and do nothing else?
if you open a zip, tweak certain files, then repackage the zip.. youre a chef?
but if you release your tweak as a separate tweak/mod youre a dev?
help me differentiate more, please. do you build your own roms from source and use your own tweaks/mods?
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i thought being a dev meant building from source
as far as i know, HTC doesnt release source code, and some of those people you listed are sense-chefs. is it easier to port or to tweak?
do you think its easier to open a rom and tweak certain files than it is to simply compile from source and do nothing else?
if you open a zip, tweak certain files, then repackage the zip.. youre a chef?
but if you release your tweak as a separate tweak/mod youre a dev?
help me differentiate more, please. do you build your own roms from source and use your own tweaks/mods?
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Building and editing source code is developer work so a lot of the true developers work on AOSP based stuff - like vorbeth, cyanogen + the rest of CM team and tripnraver for examples
Because of the very nature of kernel development the people who hack/edit kernels are pretty much all developers.
However with sense roms we can decompile the apks into either smali or pure java spource using apktool and virtuous ten studio. This means we can edit the htc code and create new stuff like the venom tweaks, cdt tools and leedroid tweaks which add more functionality into roms like apm and eqs. Those things require knowledge of developing or,'hacking' and thus make those responsible for creating those additional features developers.
Its definatly easier to port stuff than create the original version of tweaks - I know because im leading the project of porting the leedroid tweaks to the 3.33 base and its hard because much more code has been changed for this base than in previous ones but nowhere near as hard as creating the original code for the tweaks.
Some devs have their own rom like venom team but they are still devs because they are creating new features for that specific rom.
Chefs are people who cook roms without actually modifying the look or underlying code of the rom. Though of course if the rom is a port then said rom maker would probably be called a dev because it takes a lot of changing of files and using logcat to get a port running at stable functionality.
It requires more knowledge and is harder to download and compile source code than open up a rom or ruu, change a few things then reupload as a new rom.
I dont build roms from source (yet) mainly because im still reading and learning about it though fortunatly it is a lot easier for me to learn than most other people because I am a flash developer who developed code intensive flash actionscript themes for my old phone - samsung tocco lite and actionscript and java are both object orientated so I understand a fair bit of code - (also I like the Sense UI more than AOSP) but I have done a fair amount of apk smali hacks and ports.
I use a lot of my own work in my sense roms but then I also use others work like leedroid tweaks in my roms as well (with credits given ofcourse)
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Great explanation Jonny!
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now thats a reply thatll shut me up lol
Related
Guy's, Just to let everyone Know the Legend / Slide / Aria ( aka Liberty ) all use the same Kernel source... Includes a Very good ReadMe, but not sure about building the wifi Module's
http://developer.htc.com/
http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/legend_13be9c9c.tar.bz2
Guy's, Just to let everyone Know the Legend / Slide / Aria ( aka Liberty ) all use the same Kernel source...
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I think your direct link might be the wrong one if that's so... the URL you included was the one for the Tattoo/Click, and I think you meant the Legend one?
(I'm a new user, so I apparently can't include the actual link )
Thanks for the pointer.
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I think your direct link might be the wrong one if that's so... the URL you included was the one for the Tattoo/Click, and I think you meant the Legend one?
(I'm a new user, so I apparently can't include the actual link )
Thanks for the pointer.
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Thank you, fixed the link..
Heres the direct link to the Aria Kernel
Just read the article on HTC releasing source codes for aria kernel...
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/11/droid-incredibles-and-evo-4gs-2-2-source-code-released-by-htc/
For us Android noobz...what does suggest/mean?? Smoother bugless ROM cooking? Better and cleaner 2.2 build?
maybe a possible OC? i read several places they needed the kernel to customize it? i'm not sure.
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Just read the article on HTC releasing source codes for aria kernel...
http://phandroid.com/2010/08/11/droid-incredibles-and-evo-4gs-2-2-source-code-released-by-htc/
For us Android noobz...what does suggest/mean?? Smoother bugless ROM cooking? Better and cleaner 2.2 build?
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The aria kernel in the stock 2.1 Rom is very old so it may not be that much use to CM-6 Liberty
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http://androidcommunity.com/htc-rel...nsation-sensation-xl-rhyme-and-more-20111214/
Can't wait to see what the community can cook up with this new information. Should make our roms/kernels even faster than they already are!
Great, but sadly it's probably not source code from 3.3.5 .
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i am working on a stock 1.50.531.1 rooted + busybox and other fun stuff
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i am working on a stock 1.50.531.1 rooted + busybox and other fun stuff
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How's that coming along? I aquired a Sensation today, and am interested in a similar effort, or a ground-up AOSP. I checked the htcdev site and found multiple kernel tarballs with no clear indication of which one was for my device. I'll have to crack them open and hope there's some info in there. Still unclear on what non-AOSP source outside of the kernel I might need for an AOSP effort. May just pull down the CM source instead...
See page 19 for the seventh build.
Good job! Nice and clean in a new topic. KUTGW!
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Freaging sweet!
(sorry for spam but this is exciting)
Excellent stuff.
So will that mean close to full HWA?
If we're running any of the ICS builds which have the hardware hacks, this applies, right?
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@ those who flashed Chaosz-X new kernel you need to remove this line from build.prop
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ro.config.disable_hw_accel=true
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@rootSU: I think it does, because it scores almost the same as GB Sense ROMs, and it gets pretty decent FPS at Quadrant (certainly smooth enough), so I think it works fine.
@pnw: haven't tested that, but you can give it a try, it seems pretty logical that it would help
Can't wait for the 3.0 kernel
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I flashed this on the p2 build, but my wifi would not turn on... I reverted back to my nandroid right before the flash...
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I flashed this on the p2 build, but my wifi would not turn on... I reverted back to my nandroid right before the flash...
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chaoz tried including the wifi module you use in the kernel in the system/lib folder? can't find it there on the newest kernel. This messed things up for tristan earlier
Oh crap, forgot to supply the bcr4329.ko indeed.
I'm going to try to get a running 3.0 by tonight, if I don't have it finished this evening, I'll upload the WiFi module from the build (using 2 different OS's to work on, Linux for compiling, and Windows for everything else, and working in Win is much easier for me ;p)
Edit: beginning with the really lame methods of getting 3.0 to run, first attempt is done I think, just copied over files, and modified some of them, nothing really special, starting compiling in 5 minutes.
I flashed over p2 with the camera fix and the camera no longer works. Should I reapply the camera fix?
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I flashed over p2 with the camera fix and the camera no longer works. Should I reapply the camera fix?
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But does your wifi work? It didn't work for me...
Not too sure about the camera... it should work... as the added is just libs... the kernel does look at the libs, but doubt it would make a difference... just my guess...
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Wifi did not for me. Camera worked but I didn't test it extensively.
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Camera and wifi doesnt work But HW ac. is fine more speed
Wi-Fi also does not work
Chaosz-X first of all, thanks for the work you've done so far. I believe i can port it over to the n1 using the zip you uploaded. Second, please learn git so you can push your changes to github. (i know you said you hate git but, youre developing a kernel; in comparison git is way easier to understand) It will be much easier for other devs to follow your progress, and port your changes to other qsd8k devices badly in need of hwa.
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Chaosz-X first of all, thanks for the work you've done so far. I believe i can port it over to the n1 using the zip you uploaded. Second, please learn git so you can push your changes to github. (i know you said you hate git but, youre developing a kernel; in comparison git is way easier to understand) It will be much easier for other devs to follow your progress, and port your changes to other qsd8k devices badly in need of hwa.
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cant wait 3.0 kernel for n1
texasice said:
Chaosz-X first of all, thanks for the work you've done so far. I believe i can port it over to the n1 using the zip you uploaded. Second, please learn git so you can push your changes to github. (i know you said you hate git but, youre developing a kernel; in comparison git is way easier to understand) It will be much easier for other devs to follow your progress, and port your changes to other qsd8k devices badly in need of hwa.
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How could he even develop a linux kernel if he is better in using windows? Dont you have to be a kernel dev to do those things?
Some devs are crossing strange lines - 4 sure . Hope you get it done for our Nexus ONE my friend
cheers
sweet..kernel 3.0!!
waiting ..waiting..
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How could he even develop a linux kernel if he is better in using windows? Dont you have to be a kernel dev to do those things?
Some devs are crossing strange lines - 4 sure . Hope you get it done for our Nexus ONE my friend
cheers
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People start with windows at a young age
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Now that we have an unlocked bootloader, we can get some real work done.
We already have a "custom" kernel for AOSP ROMs (ie. SuperOSR) that has an added CPU governor and tweaks to get it to boot. However, I personally prefer Sense ROMs and some of the apps that HTC include.
I've tried getting a kernel to compile myself, but the source from htcdev.com doesn't compile for me, and when I use SuperOSR source, I either get loads of glitches on Sense ROMs, or it just doesn't boot after I try modding the CPU values.
So I'd like to politely request if someone could possibly compile a kernel that works with stock Sense ROMs with some added features (a few examples of possible features here, and maybe some basic additions like a slight CPU overclock [this is where my compiles refused to boot], swap, BFS CPU scheduler, additional I/O schedulers, and any other performance-enhancing tweaks).
Developments like this would guarantee to get us out of the Legacy & Low Activity Devices section and back onto the main board
ooh i wish to have developments on chacha, im a flasholic ..every couples of hours i check the threads if there is somthing new, the development is so slow due to limited numbers of developers that have chacha that are working on it and realy big thanks and respect of those developers for their efforts,i wish if i was a developer to help .hmm can we seek for other phones developers(as sensation or cyanogenmod) to have their help and support in developing kernals and custom roms or tweaks for the little chacha ? is it difficult to ask help ? i can join the team as beta testers
Kernel source available
Kernel source for additional variants of HTC Desire HD, ChaCha, Flyer, Wildfire S, EVO 4G+ and more now available at: http://t.co/oWFY7ieb
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Kernel source for additional variants of HTC Desire HD, ChaCha, Flyer, Wildfire S, EVO 4G+ and more now available at: http://t.co/oWFY7ieb
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Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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Now that we have an unlocked bootloader, we can get some real work done.
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Real work started way before that imho
first kernel releases
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Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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same for me here...
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Yep, already downloaded :-D
Btw, all the variants have the same kernel sources, at least it's the same file. I haven't diffed with the first sources they released. Anyone? Any diff?
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Yep, it's the same as the original. One diff, the naming convention. )
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Yep, it's the same as the original. One diff, the naming convention. )
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there are some diffs. Not sure how significant though...
The G1 Oracle​
Some of us decided to start a new thread like Royalknight6190's ROM Bible, because that hasn't been updated since Feb. 2011. However, as demkantor pointed out, the ROM Bible is pretty up to date up until Froyo, so there's not much point just reposting stuff. Therefore, although I have gone down as far as Eclair, I've only added new, relevant ROMs. Please PM me if I have missed out a ROM, this needs to be kept up-to-date
Credits: Don't know how we're gonna sort credits out, over the years there'll be tonnes of people we want to thank!
GUIDES:
NEW! [THURS 14/03/13]: [GUIDE] Rooting G1, ADB/Fastboot Setup, Partitioning, etc. by @FeintDoxx
How-to- Root, Hack, and Flashing your G1/Dream by @Koush
Or... Root a T-Mobile G1 (HTC DREAM) FOR THE COMPLETE BEGINNER!! by @junio07
How to install 1.33.0013d HBOOT and 2.22.28.25 via recovery by @TheShortybro
How to install recoveries... courtesy of @Amon_RA 's RA-dream-v1.7.0 thread (the same process applies for all recovery.img files - just scroll down a bit )
RECOVERIES:
NEW! [FRI 31/05/13]: ClockworkMod Recovery unofficial v5.0.2.8 (32B) and v6.0.1.2 (32A/B) compiled by @jianC
ClockworkMod Recovery Official v2.5.0.7 or ROM Manager on the Play Store
RA-dream-v1.7.0 by @Amon_RA
Amon_RA - Fmod by @frankdrey
KERNELS:
Ice Cream Sandwich
ezgb 1.5.3 (below) linaro-built kernel by @tvall via his United ICS thread
ezgb 2636 v1.5.3 (patched 1.5.2 for ICS by anddisa) compiled by @tvall via @banana4444's BananaSandwich thread (from @tvall 's United ICS thread, but I can't find where @tvall originally posted it )
Gingerbread
2636 ezGb kernels by @ezterry
2635 Chaos kernel by @cronnicorey via his CronMod-Dream thread
Froyo
ezGb kernels by @ezterry
ROMS:
Firstly, I think here is a good place to mention that there is, surprisingly, a form of non-android development for the G1 in the form of Firefox OS / Boot2Gecko, provided by Infinimit... for info, take a look at Project Lizard
Jelly Bean
Jelly Bean for HTC G1 - 4.1.1 Pre-Alpha by SoCal Devs
Ice Cream Sandwich
CyanogenMod 9
United ICS by @tvall
BananaSandwich v0.2 - first smooth & fast ICS ROM by @banana4444
Gingerbread
AOSP Based
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: Infinite Dreams by @ivn888 and @enricocid
EzGingerbread by @ezterry
COS-DS by @roalex
BeatMod GingerBread by @zFr3eak
AOSP GingerBread!! Dream v0.2 by @Dominating
CyanogenMod 7 Based
tvall's CM7 by @tvall
CronMod-Dream by @croniccorey
BananaBread v5.0 Final D/S Multilanguage by @banana4444
GinSense by @Rushness
BlueGinger by @blaster44
The Official "Unofficial" CM7 for DS by @dw9906
GingerbreadbyNomy by @Litesorrows
Ginger yoshi 1.5 (android 2.3.5) by @yohshua
MIUI
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: MIUI 2.4.20 by @Tquetski
HTX MIUI X by @Hintay
Froyo
AOSP Based
LMCFroyo by @ryree0
Eclair | Android v2.1
Sense 2.0
Liberty v0.51 by @Infinimint, @jianC, and the UNITED Dev team
Other
Servers
NEW! [TUE 22/01/14]: DreamServer (1.6 Donut minus Dalvik, UI, etc.) by @calamari
This is pretty nice. Although i'm a magic user, even magic users can benefit from that.
Reserved
Oops, too late, but....reserved.....
I once started a dedicated site for this, but that didn't go anywhere.
It was pretty nice because anyone could add to it.
Oops, didn't mean to thanks, but I'm sure you deserve it anyway frankdrey!
Yeah I wish we had gotten more done with that site, but o well, I guess we were both just too busy.
I was thinking maybe we could make some addition to the xda wiki? Don't know how well that would work but...
Anyway htcdreamon is going to speak with a mod and see if we can clean up this thread, add a spot or two for each of us in the begining and we each be resposible to add info, I'm sure if you want in to it could be done
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I once started a dedicated site for this, but that didn't go anywhere.
It was pretty nice because anyone could add to it.
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Link?
tass0s said:
This is pretty nice. Although i'm a magic user, even magic users can benefit from that.
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I agree, most of my searching for info and resourses for my 32b was done in the g1 section.
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Link?
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Its gone unfortunately. It was a .tk domain that expired. And I havent signed into the x10hosting panel for the required amounts, so thats gone too.
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Oops, too late, but....reserved.....
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Damn, im sorry, maybe we can find a mod that can delete that for us.
Don't worry about it
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Damn, im sorry, maybe we can find a mod that can delete that for us.
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Oh no, really, doesn't matter at all, I'm trying to get a mod to give demkantor a post under the OP anyway, so we can move stuff around then.
On a general note to everyone, do people want versions of Android in ascending or descending order? i.e. ascending (from cupcake through to Jelly bean) or descending (from Jelly bean down to cupcake)?
I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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What d'you mean by "older stuff"? Also, I'll thank you tomorrow because apparently I'm limited to 8 thanks per day.
Looks like I got some left!
the rom bible is realy complete up to early 2011 or so, since then most roms have been froyo and up, actualy the rom bible probably has everything ecliar and older so if we start with the latest people can have the all in one place for roms that have never been listed before. As we get time we can link it all!
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OK, stickied this one. Need to get one of the admins to resolve an issue with the second post, copied the first post like normal to make a second one but for some reason the system is swapping them. Edit: Just read the rest of the thread and realized you ended up wanting a different arrangement there, sorry. OK, let me see if I can fix that up and put something by demkantor in the right place. Actually demkantor mentioned a cleanup as well there, so maybe consider what you want and then self report the thread and let us know.
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I say newest first, as people probably want to see what's newest right away. Also the older stuff is all linked in the rom bible
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Definitely!
It's hard to find the newest roms, not that there are many anymore. They tend to get buried by posts to old roms.
Maybe starting up that site again would be a good idea?
It'll be a lot more flexible than this :|
If you think so, we have two choices on how to do it:
1. phpbb (authorship will get awkward, since original devs arent around to post their roms)
2. html (will be the most flexible, but also most difficult )
and *sigh*
3. Me and my friend (a php coder) code a web platform for this specific purpose. This is by far the best way, but will take the most time and effort.
I see what you mean, this is proving difficult to make more widely editable. Also sorry for the gaps, I haven't had much time to work on this.
Hey thanks bro for mentioning me!
To clear up some info, the ezgb linaro kernel is built by me for cm9, and is just the ezgb 1.5.3 ics kernel built with linaro. I had further plans for it, but I've had very little free time recently.
The 1.5.3 kernel is built by me from anddisa's git without code changes. His code was just ezterrys latest kernel plus some patches needed on ics. I just compiled and posted.
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RE: [INFO][REF][FRI, 31/05/13] The G1 Oracle
tvall said:
To clear up some info, the ezgb linaro kernel is built by me for cm9, and is just the ezgb 1.5.3 ics kernel built with linaro. I had further plans for it, but I've had very little free time recently.
The 1.5.3 kernel is built by me from anddisa's git without code changes. His code was just ezterrys latest kernel plus some patches needed on ics. I just compiled and posted.
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Ahh thanks for info. The ezgb linaro doesn't boot for me by the way, so I always have to use the normal ezgb 1.5.3 for ICS, which works fine. 2078 radio.
EDIT: Did you delete the post where you had the download link for ezgblinaro? I couldn't find it anywhere apart from Banana4444's thread